Mid-engine RWD Turbo B20 CRX

[hotdc2]

I saw this on Honda-tech and thought some people here would be interested. I can't wait til this catches on over here, it seems the yanks always pull the craziest shiit first.

Props to the guy for putting in the effort. It looks dodgey as hell but it gets the job done. I know i'd want one..


http://www.honda-tech.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=55124&stc=1&d=1247877163


http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2609439

ENJOY!

[Cvik_ryda]

wow thats unique man really good effort

[FastFwd]

wow just read the thread on honda tech thats awesome

[FastFwd]

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[FastFwd]

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[burak213]

thats crazy

[GSi_PSi]

ive herd bout stuff like thiss. but isnt the wheel spin gonna be the same because the engine has just changed postion not a real Rear wheel drive?.

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

I now require TWO MORE AH Civics....

[markoJEK1]

Nice setup, shoulda done a b20vtec motor imo.

gsi-psi , even though everything has been swapped to the other end it doesnt mean it will behave like a FWD, as all of the weight transfer moves to the back of the car upon acceleration onto the driving wheels, while in FWD it moves away from the driving wheels and thus you have less weight acting on the them and more traction issues.

[GSi_PSi]

yeah but i herd it still doesnt grip better than a normal rwd.

[DEMON83]

kool project!

[string]

yeah but i herd it still doesnt grip better than a normal rwd.

Instead of having 60% of the weight over the front wheels he'll now have 60% over the rear, driven wheels. Recipe for a great launch.

[DNYALL]

:O oh my, so wat does thing run down the quarter then?

[Moey.C]

does 8's

[hotdc2]

from memory it ran a high 12. either 12 or 13. i can't remember aye.

[Anwyl]

holly shiz that it crazy!!!!

[~Sp33~]

yeah but i herd it still doesnt grip better than a normal rwd.

Why would you think that? I've never heard of an Mr2 or NSX owner complaining about wheelspin.

[FastFwd]

Why would you think that? I've never heard of an Mr2 or NSX owner complaining about wheelspin.

i have

[EGB18CT]

id rather that black mustang in the background :)

[ninzee]

man that thing is crazzzzzzy props 2 the bloke for haveing the time and patients to do it, that would of made him go insane

[98vtir]

holy crapola, that is friggin' awesome!!

[EK1.6LCIV]

wow, he is awesome, like the guy who put the ls1 into the ek :)

[ninzee]

ay because the engine is in the back doesnt that mean that he will not lose as much power as if the engine was at the front like it wouldnt have 2 travel far 2 get to the wheels?

[~Sp33~]

i have

Want a cookie?

[FastFwd]

Want a cookie?

what flavor?

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Semen................Animal Semen.

[FastFwd]

Semen................Animal Semen.

with chocolate sprinkles?

[gnx1987]

I wonder what the weight ditribution is now? I'm not sure what it is when it's stock but let's 60/40, wouldn't it be something like 30/70 now that he's taken all the weight out of the front and only replaced it with a small fuel tank?

[~Sp33~]

with chocolate sprinkles?

No sprinkles, straight from the wang.


I wonder what the weight ditribution is now? I'm not sure what it is when it's stock but let's 60/40, wouldn't it be something like 30/70 now that he's taken all the weight out of the front and only replaced it with a small fuel tank?

Eh, it's not like the engine is sitting way past the rear axles, also there are still the steering and suspension components in the front end. I'm willing to bet it's very close to 45/55. If not, better.

What's the weight distribution of an aw11? They have similar wheelbases and setups i guess.

[gnx1987]

But the engine goes from front to back and and that would weigh more than the rest of the components in the front wouldn't it. And I don't really think it's 30/70, that's was just an example asking if the back weighs more than what the front would if the engine was in the front.

[~Sp33~]

But the engine goes from front to back and and that would weigh more than the rest of the components in the front wouldn't it. And I don't really think it's 30/70, that's was just an example asking if the back weighs more than what the front would if the engine was in the front.

The engine goes from front to middle, it's still in front of the rear axle as apposed to it being in front of the front axle which is the reason why it would have had a front bias before.

[gnx1987]

so is weight distribution based on the weight either end of the middle of the car or front and rear overhang?

[~Sp33~]

Overhang doesn't have much to do with it.

It's to do with the amount of weight, and the distance that weight is from the center of the car. The less the weight is, the further it can be from center of the car without having much of an impact, also the closer a larger weight is to the center of the car the less impact it will have with the front/back weight distribution.

The reason i talk about the engine in regard to the axles is that 100kg behind the front axle (closer to the center of the car) is going to have less impact on the cars balance, then if that same 100kgs is positioned in front of the front axle.

The more central the weight, the easier it is to rotate the car :)

[string]

A car rotates around the centre of mass, not the centre. The more concentrated the mass around it's centre, the easier the car is to rotate.

[~Sp33~]

The more concentrated the mass around it's centre, the easier the car is to rotate.

Is that not what i said here?


The more central the weight, the easier it is to rotate the car

[string]

Perhaps you meant it - your makes multiple references to a centre - the centre of the wheelbase. Is a reader not to infer your previous meaning of centre when you refer to a "central" location?

[~Sp33~]

You could pull whatever statements and inferences you like, regardless of what center you decide on (be it of mass, or wheelbase), the point i made about the effect of weight in regard to it's positioning and effect is still true.

[bennjamin]

see the quality of welds etc ? this bloke is clearly a DIY backyarder...but regardless id hate to be driving it down the 1/4 when something snaps.

Good on him for something different tho.

[string]

You could pull whatever statements and inferences you like, regardless of what center you decide on (be it of mass, or wheelbase), the point i made about the effect of weight in regard to it's positioning and effect is still true.

This isn't an argument - I was simply removing any ambiguity for future readers.


see the quality of welds etc ? this bloke is clearly a DIY backyarder...but regardless id hate to be driving it down the 1/4 when something snaps.

Good on him for something different tho.

The factory unibody is held together with spot welds. If you've ever tried to break apart the smallest of tack welds with your hands you'd know that even poor welds are incredibly strong. It wouldn't take much length of poor penetration weld to beat the area of factory spot welds. Then again he now has double the mass in the rear and no more floor panel, who knows what wacky load paths have been created to test every single joint, perfect weld or not.

[TheSaint]

arnt too many MR hondas around =)

Dc2 with MR mounted H22

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you would want some strong strut bracing in the front there and a good water pump to get the water all the way to the back of the car with the radiator in the front like that

[~Sp33~]

That rear engine compartment looks quality.