which intake kit better

[jme112]

Hi, was wondering which intake kit would b best for FD1. K&N Typhoon or the simota intake kit, and also would installing an intake kit void warranty? ive read about it on other websites n some say yes n others say no.

thanks

[shadou]

yea I'd leave the engine and the car stock for warranty purposes. If you're scared of voiding then simply do not modify anything, retain stock.

[ganj3]

I was thinking of putting an intake system into my FD as well. Lol if I was I'm just gonna get one, I'd take it out and put in the stock one back in before servicing and once the car is serviced put back in the aftermarket intake system

[Stig]

yea I'd leave the engine and the car stock for warranty purposes. If you're scared of voiding then simply do not modify anything, retain stock.

word!


I was thinking of putting an intake system into my FD as well. Lol if I was I'm just gonna get one, I'd take it out and put in the stock one back in before servicing and once the car is serviced put back in the aftermarket intake system

why bother taking it out, i didnt take mine out. been to two services and they havent said anything

[ganj3]

why bother taking it out, i didnt take mine out. been to two services and they havent said anything

Oh in that case I might as well leave it in as well. Stig, which intake u using?

[ej20i]

if u install an intake basically u voiding ur engine warranty...but myeh!...im running simota ait intake kit and i service my car thru honda aswell..

[d@vid]

ej20i

how much did that intake kit cost you, and where about you got it from?

Thanks

[black8thgen]

ej20i

how much did that intake kit cost you, and where about you got it from?

Thanks

u got fd2 right? I've already inquired about simota kits for our fd2, since our throttle body is at the front, i reckon its useless getting an SRI as the breather/filter will be sucking in pretty hot air since its facing backwards..

simota SRI is for 180ish btw.

anyway touge tune here (trader) sell the simota carbon charger intake system, which is about 300 dollars.. so yeah a lot more pricey but the breather is totally enclosed and yeah its meant to give much more power gains and no chance of heat soak.

when i get some cash and after i get my sub/amp im gna get the carbon charger system.. hopefully haha =].

=]. hope that helps..

[JOhnnyFD]

think this has been discussed here before

but recommend INJEN CAI :thumbsup:
pros
- world's first dyno tuned CAI for FD1
- has patent MR technology that others dont have
- nice engine polished bling and noticeable sucking sound (usually from 3500rpm higher)
- no loss of responsiveness
- definite power gains

cons
- is relative expensive compared to other CAI or SRI's (usually goin around 500+)
- maybe hydrolock (only happens when air pod filter is 100% submitted in water like in flood areas)... if worried about small puddles or rainy days, buy a hydroshield (is water repellent, not water proof) to compensate

[Stig]

Oh in that case I might as well leave it in as well. Stig, which intake u using?

injen cai

[black8thgen]

injen is too pricey.. sadly.. and also for the fd2 need the damn rbc intake manifold lol.. what a bitch =[.. gonna have to settle for simota sri or carbon charger =[

[edmbranch]

injen is too pricey.. sadly.. and also for the fd2 need the damn rbc intake manifold lol.. what a bitch =[.. gonna have to settle for simota sri or carbon charger =[

rbc will be around 300-500 depending on the currency exchange, get the whole package which includes gaskets etc etc..

[jme112]

if u install an intake basically u voiding ur engine warranty...but myeh!...im running simota ait intake kit and i service my car thru honda aswell..

hmm my dad is friends with the honda dealer so hopefully he will give us some love hahahaha even though hes already given me heaps of love with the deal he gave me for my car :P

newayz ure simota intake, was there a big difference in power and responsiveness???? i am leaning towards the simota mainly due to the lower price, rather than injen and k&n

thanks for the replys guys !!

[liquid23]

where can u get the injen kit with everything?

[ganj3]

where can u get the injen kit with everything?

One of the traders here is selling it. I think JDMYard is

[edmbranch]

injen kits don't fit the k20z2 unless you've changed the manifold..

[curtis265]

Warranty is there so that if your car stuffs up on it's own, they'll fix it for free, cos it's their fault.

If you go to a dealership with a few mods to your car, your warranty can't be legally voided - Only Honda Australia can do that. Your warranty claim is denied instead, so you could really try another dealer if ur hopeful enough. A denied warranty claim simply means that you can't get things fixed for free - you'll have to pay for it.

NOW, If you have a CAI and your car hydrolocks, the're goign to blame your CAI, and state that it wasn't Honda's fault that the car hydrolocked. You'll have to fork out an arm and a leg for a new engine.

Anyway, with intake mods, just be careful with it all - puddles are an ultimate danger for a CAI.

SRI's aren't necessarily better than stock, as the engine is designed to make the most of the intake ram effect... changing the over length of the intake tubing will mess around with the pressure waves, and it usually means that you lose low-end power and make gains up higher (if that's what you want)

[black8thgen]

unless u do what tim did.. and get that joining hose... says it increases responsiveness and high end gains too.. damn tempting haha

[liquid23]

injen kits don't fit the k20z2 unless you've changed the manifold..

so need the injen kit + RBC manifold in order for everything to work? is that gonna be like $1000 with install? pretty expensive lol
Anyone sell the Groupe M intake?

[black8thgen]

yea about 1000 lol, so not worth it. and i havnt seen anything abt Groupe M... wish there was more mods for k20z2 =[..

[ekdez]

there is a trader on here which sells grouppeM..
Xposed, its new... i dunno if you have seen it..

although he says its for FD2 06+..

if you look at the website.. it says its for cvic type r... which i take to mean fd2r..

i dunno if its misleading.. but are teh k20z and k20a the same?

[XP02ED]

Thanks mate,

the FD2 Gruppem Kit fits non typeR models.

I will try find an article

[edmbranch]

oh my.. I'll have to save a lot of $$ for the gruppeM

[JOhnnyFD]

there is a trader on here which sells grouppeM..
Xposed, its new... i dunno if you have seen it..

although he says its for FD2 06+..

if you look at the website.. it says its for cvic type r... which i take to mean fd2r..

i dunno if its misleading.. but are teh k20z and k20a the same?

nah bro, k20a not same with k20z.. 165kw vs 114kw

[liquid23]

here is a thread about intakes for civic Si, still good info for us
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/bolt-ons-all-motor/169812-ultimate-mother-all-intake-threads-updated-version.html
it covers nearly every intake possible.

[XP02ED]

nah bro, k20a not same with k20z.. 165kw vs 114kw

I know its not the same engine but the gruppem system doesn't depend on the engine or intake manifold.

its dependent on the OEM hose, sensors and the engine firewall.

Is the air mass sensor attached to these cars?

Saying this ive seen the FD2 Kit fit onto a FN2R

[ekdez]

so are you saying i could fit the k20z intake for the fd2 and fit it to my r18a engine? becuase the layout of the engine bays are quite similar in their repsects..

[XP02ED]

so are you saying i could fit the k20z intake for the fd2 and fit it to my r18a engine? becuase the layout of the engine bays are quite similar in their repsects..

Exactly what i am saying.

The chassis and location of engine and air intake is all the same from what i understand.

Just need clarification on the sensor as if there is one on the stock intake then it won't work

If you are keen and want clarification send me good photos of your engine bay

Japland don't see our versions but i can get GruppeM to confirm if someone sends photos my way to get it check the layout is the same

EDIT: is this it?

http://www.procivic.com/images/articles_news/2006_si_photos_driving_impressions/2006_civic_si_engine.jpg

[black8thgen]

nope thats the american engine bay, the r18a has the throttle body at the back of the engine, rather than the front. i think anyway

[Wayne]

thats USDM civic.. not sure is k20z3 or z2.. =)

[edmbranch]

looks like z3..

[XP02ED]

someone have photos?

Better yet do they have the sensors on the intake?

and the sports version is k20 right

[ekdez]

there is my r18a engine bay. find me grouppeM intake lol

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn72/puff_doggy/IMG_1072.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn72/puff_doggy/IMG_1073.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn72/puff_doggy/IMG_1074.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn72/puff_doggy/IMG_1075.jpg

[black8thgen]

sports is k20z2, groupeM is so damn expensive tho =/

[hisoka]

just run a top fuel intake zero 1000 intake, good bang for buck

[XP02ED]

Does it have mass sensors for the 1.8 or sports model

[hisoka]

ohh nah was talking about k20 model. and still iam not sure that answer lol.

so you guys are doing up the 1.8 litre model

[black8thgen]

have u got the top fuel zero 1000 intake for fd2? =O! how much1? any pics???

[liquid23]

i'm thinking about the GruppeM intake. Looks like have to cut out the plastic bits in order to fit it in. So if selling car you would have to sell it with the intake can't return to stock because there will be a hole lol

[XP02ED]

You dont cut anything you replace your stock cowl top for the whole

look here for whats included

http://gruppem.co.jp/matching/products_search/details_en.php?goods_id=6573

[liquid23]

yup sorry stand corrected.
will be deciding on it

[ekdez]

so anything for the 1.8L, r18a?

[liquid23]

yay getting gruppeM intake
will update when installed and pics when arrival

[XP02ED]

so anything for the 1.8L, r18a?

At this stage liquid will install it on a fd2 sports which has the k20, hopefully he can confirm if it will work on either engines as im still pretty sure that it relies on chassis


yay getting gruppeM intake
will update when installed and pics when arrival

Hahah thanks for the purchase :D

Although can someone please confirm about the mass sensor?

i'd assume the sports k20 is the same as the integra base?

[ekdez]

i seem to remember reading somwhere that the k20z found in the fd2 is the same as in the dc5s and lux not R version

[edmbranch]

same as the dc5 lux.. not the type s.. type s is a lot more powerful.. dunno the right hp figures :p

[curtis265]

btw guys (from bak there) it has to be a z3. They don't have z2's

[black8thgen]

at liquid: i read on singapore forums that for the gruppeM intake you need to make minor mods to the sensor? but there wasn't anymore info on what mods exactly.. just letting u know if u dont already =]. not sure if the info is 100% true though.

[liquid23]

thanks... i read some stuff on it but didn't look into it. I'll ask some questions in the forum. if all fails my installer will do something about it i guess haha. he is a electrical engineer n knows alot of things, i'm sure he'll figure it out... i hope >.<
guess someone has to be the guinea pig hahaha

[black8thgen]

hahah yeah true that. hope it all goes well =]. damn expensive intake, ull be enjoying some crazy gains i suspect hahah =D.

[liquid23]

hopefully yeah haha

sg forum member said
"Cannot be fit, Dia of Flexi hose for FD2R is 3" and FD2 is 2"+. And sensors are different too."

but still no one has replied as you said. i posted up stuff but still nothing.

this made me laugh:

It's $1550 for 5-6 hp increase from a highly tuned Type R K20A revving at 8000rpm, which incidentally is where the max hp is!!!
Price is the same if thrown on a K20Z and definitely less than 5hp increase.
I would say don't bother. =P
Unless...
1) you have modded until nothing left to change anymore or your name is Vicardo.
2) carbon fibre really really turns you on (e.g. if you have Fiona Xie and a carbon fibre ornament at home but you hug the carbon fibre first).
3) you have no more place to stuff your excess cash and it keeps falling out of your pockets.

=D

[JOhnnyFD]

hehe fiona xie ftw

price is definitely not worth it for such small gains

[black8thgen]

hahah thats funny. yeah that price for those gains =/, disappointing =[

[X8TEENX]

it really depend what you want....if you want some cheap DIY staff ...you can copy what singapore's people did...here r some post


DIY Apexi
http://www.ctr.sg/forum/showthread.php?t=2534

DIY Blitz
http://www.ctr.sg/forum/showthread.php?t=3065

if you wan to stick with ur stock airbox, then should go for this
http://www.ctr.sg/forum/showthread.php?t=4172

[J-Spec23]

Im about to purchase an intake and im really stuck between
the K & N SRI and INJEN CAI ....
since the r18a1 have DBW... wouldnt SRI make the car abit better for responsive?

[xqwzit]

get injen cai from ebay US
you wont regret it
never go for sri

[JOhnnyFD]

Im about to purchase an intake and im really stuck between
the K & N SRI and INJEN CAI ....
since the r18a1 have DBW... wouldnt SRI make the car abit better for responsive?

get INJEN, its been dyno tuned for R18A

SRI or CAI doesnt really do much in terms of DBW lag, if u really wanna reduce it or get rid of it.. get an e-throttle DBW unit such as from buddyclub, shadow, or blitz

[J-Spec23]

Cool thanks guys i guess i will have to save up abit more to get the injen
can u hear the injen cai tho wen ur driving? cus i know that SRI's are much louder..

[JOhnnyFD]

i hear my INGEN CAI when i hit over 3000/3500rpm.. before that its quiet

[JOhnnyFD]

heres a clip about induction.. this is on AEM from RiceBoyTv :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ1GD7kkdK4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30YTEL0CYkA

[JOhnnyFD]

got to finally cleaned my INJEN pod filter.. it only took lik an hr :rolleyes:

been meaning to do this since the red dust storm in syd a few wks back.. amazed it wasnt tat dirty when cleaned

[Zimp13]

wat abt fujita compared to injen???? confused between these 2....

[ekdez]

if you talk to yonas, JDMyard dude, he will strongly recommend you get the injen > fujuta. there are heaps of reasons behind it too. the one main one is that its dyno proven results..

[JOhnnyFD]

fujita doesnt have the MR (patent) from injen but the fujita pod filter looks bigger and has an air horn design

fujita is a dry air filter pod whereas the injen is cotton gauze

and yes, injen CAI are dynoed tuned

[tazman888]

Hi guys,

Is this the one for Civic FD1.8 auto 07? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Injen-2006-Honda-Civic-Ex-Manual-Cold-Air-Intake-SP1569_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem19bac20747QQitem Z110507460423QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fA ccessories

Is that the right one? It comes down to somwhere around 400, save 200 from getting it here. How much it cost to get it installed?
If there a lot of performance gain from changing the air filter?

Still deciding either injen or simota CBII-110 carbon charger kit . They both have almost the same price.

[JOhnnyFD]

this one goes its manual

you can order one from JDMYard in trader section.. for both manual and auto

they installed it for me.. but u can go to any reputable local mechanic dealer to install it for ya

performance in terms of air filter all comes down to how much air flow it takes in and whether its gives good filtration.. i recommend staying with the injen air filter for its CAI

[tazman888]

Oh yea, miss out on that. There is none for auto in the ebay at the moment. $200 saving from ebay is quite amount of $.

[JaCe]

Can't confirm if that eBay item is for FD1- the key thing to look for is ensuring it's for the R18A engine. I personally bought the K&N intake (back before people had it confirmed to work with the AUDM FD1) and took a bit of a risk... but thankfully it all worked out.

FYI I am selling that K&M SRI intake mentioned above (see link in signature).

Alternatively if you are going down the Injen route, you can't go wrong with Injen! I just ordered one for my Evo.

[curtis265]

It's for the R18 engine, but not necesssarily the FD1.