Car Suspension Law - What Spring/shock combo is Legal then?

[beeza]

I just rang the RTA (QLD - Queensland Transport Authority 07 3253 4851)

For Queensland,

The Law states your cars aftermarket suspension must travel 1/3 of the distance between the bump rubber and the bump stop and must be no less than 100mm off the ground to be legal.

I'm wanting to get aftermarket suspension but it needs to be legal,so I am not getting coilovers because that would put me at risk of losing the last 2 points on my licience because coilovers are quite stiff.I bet a lot of people didn't know that or have just learnt it with the increase in defects.

Can anyone tell me if say a koni spring/shock combo is legal?

Koni yellows sound great,I just need to know the distance between the bump rubber and bump stop and see if the koni's travel 1/3 of that.

Thank U.

[98vtir]

I can't answer your question but I can say that I've got TEIN SS coilovers that are stiff as a board and very low. I've had cops look round my car (not defect ones (whatever they're called)) and never mentioned anything about its 'lowness' lol

Only thing I've been pulled up on was when I had red indicators but now they are orange and blink like a mother.

But really, can they tell how far it travels without taking off the wheels?

[beeza]

I can't answer your question but I can say that I've got TEIN SS coilovers that are stiff as a board and very low. I've had cops look round my car (not defect ones (whatever they're called)) and never mentioned anything about its 'lowness' lol

Only thing I've been pulled up on was when I had red indicators but now they are orange and blink like a mother.

But really, can they tell how far it travels without taking off the wheels?

Well,Mr wills got defected for having 'too stiff suspension',it's happening.

I see cops checking out every single lowered car.I dont want that rubbish.

I'm playing smart.

[98vtir]

yeah I actually wanna raise it up an inch or two since i've got a couple of cracks on the gearbox housing from these 2 friggin rocks on the road that I couldn't avoid (same spot too).... *sigh* plus the amount of engine mounts I've gone thorugh due to rough QLD roads (+ my driving too..)

The sussy is how it was when I bought it but I neither know how to adjust the stiffness correctly and I only have one C-spanner for my coilovers...... buggered if I know how 1 of em got lost.

Loves corners tho :)

[beeza]

Noice :)

My front lower strut brace protects my header!! It's GREAT!

[98vtir]

Ooo, I been lookin at gettin one of them lower strut brace, is that the same as the front sway bar?

[MRB18R]

this may not apply to you as your in QLD but in NSW the lowering law states that from August 1 2009 any vehicle that is lowered will have to carry a certificate stating that what they have done is aloud according to safety standard requirements.
you are not able to lower your car from factory height from more than 2 inches (5 cms)... and that if your car should be lowered you need an engineer's certficate to confirm it...

hope that helps a little bit

[EK1.6LCIV]

Bezza the Koni spring/shock setup I have is legal as the travel is still very much within those realms :)

[beeza]

this may not apply to you as your in QLD but in NSW the lowering law states that from August 1 2009 any vehicle that is lowered will have to carry a certificate stating that what they have done is aloud according to safety standard requirements.
you are not able to lower your car from factory height from more than 2 inches (5 cms)... and that if your car should be lowered you need an engineer's certficate to confirm it...

hope that helps a little bit

That helps a lot mate,I'm posiive it will happen here soon.More reason to keep it legal.

Thanks Ryan,what type of Koni's are they?

[hondar]

this may not apply to you as your in QLD but in NSW the lowering law states that from August 1 2009 any vehicle that is lowered will have to carry a certificate stating that what they have done is aloud according to safety standard requirements.
you are not able to lower your car from factory height from more than 2 inches (5 cms)... and that if your car should be lowered you need an engineer's certficate to confirm it...

hope that helps a little bit

that law wasnt passed in nsw. we still can lower up and down 5cm without being illegal

http://163.189.7.150/newsevents/downloads/minister_releases/29072009_car_modification_laws.pdf

[EK1.6LCIV]

That helps a lot mate,I'm posiive it will happen here soon.More reason to keep it legal.

Thanks Ryan,what type of Koni's are they?

They're the Koni Yellow adj. dampening struts with Koni's springs made for the coupe I ordered in from Europe yrs ago, still feel just as good as they did back then :)

[beeza]

They're the Koni Yellow adj. dampening struts with Koni's springs made for the coupe I ordered in from Europe yrs ago, still feel just as good as they did back then :)

Vinny told me his koni yellow's he had were the best sussy set up he's had.

That is just perfect then.

Ok,so travel wise they are fine,they travel at least 1/3 of the distance between the bump stops.

How about the height though? Can you get a ticket/defect for being too low? :confused:

[EK1.6LCIV]

Vinny told me his koni yellow's he had were the best sussy set up he's had.

That is just perfect then.

Ok,so travel wise they are fine,they travel at least 1/3 of the distance between the bump stops.

How about the height though? Can you get a ticket/defect for being too low? :confused:

lol, not a chance, my lowest point at present like most 96-00 Civic's is the cat and I still have over 130 space there, which is good as anymore my lip will scrape leaving work and most local businesses lol

its dropped it at best 50mm from stock on the Koni springs

[beeza]

GOTCHA!

So to be legal the suspension must travel 1/3 of the distance between the bump stops and not be under 100mm off the ground!

That's it.Phew!

I should have just rang the RTA AGES ago LOL

Thanks a lot mate,Koni Yellow's it is then!

How much would I be looking at paying?

[beeza]

1st post updated!

[EK1.6LCIV]

prob over $1100 with shocks and springs, could have changed slightly

[JasonGilholme]

Tein coilovers, supplied from Fulcrum, are ADR approved if you get the aus spec ones. so you get coilovers + legalities.

Best choice if you want to be by the book IMO.

[beeza]

Tein coilovers, supplied from Fulcrum, are ADR approved if you get the aus spec ones. so you get coilovers + legalities.

Best choice if you want to be by the book IMO.

THAT sounds GREAT Jase!

Where can I buy mate?

U LEGEND!! :honda:

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Brett just incase, there are koni reds and lowering springs in sydney for 500 big ones.
Have a look in the for sale section.

As jason stated, fulcrum =adr approved = legal

[beeza]

Thanks Champion!

It's still a 3 finger gap...that's what I have atm,3 fingers at the rear and 1 at the front.The front is great,the rear.....I would love to have:

* a 1 finger gap at the rear too
* It a little firmer
* Still legal

It looks like Jase knows some coils that fall in that bracket - WOOT WOOT!!!

[ek4-guy]

yep I priced the Tein SS from Fulcrum before I got my Monoflex

your looking up anywhere up from $1600

http://www.fulcrumsuspensions.com.au/suspension-centres.html

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

.........I honestly would dread to see what custom tiens for my car would cost, lol

[ek4-guy]

.........I honestly would dread to see what custom tiens for my car would cost, lol

i'd hate to see what fulcrum would charge for my monoflex

fulcrum SS =$1600++
jdm SS =$1200

jdm monoflex =$2050

[beeza]

Thanks Daz,just rang them,the Tein SS Fulcrum's are $2350 fitted.F@ck that.

[ek4-guy]

Thanks Daz,just rang them,the Tein SS Fulcrum's are $2350 fitted.F@ck that.

holy shit thats a big price hike in a lil over 12 months

[beeza]

No shit! and koni want $2700 for the same bloody thing ryan has.

Anything adjustable from koni is $2700 UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm so ****ing over it aye,I'm just gonna give up on it and stick with the stock shocks and king lows I have atm

**** it.FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

****in rip off/legal bullshit!!!!!!! ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[beeza]

Probably a blessing in disguise.

[ek4-guy]

No shit! and koni want $2700 for the same bloody thing ryan has.

Anything adjustable from koni is $2700 UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm so ****ing over it aye,I'm just gonna give up on it and stick with the stock shocks and king lows I have atm

**** it.FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

****in rip off/legal bullshit!!!!!!! ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just do as i do get monoflex and if cops hassle you tell em they are the legal teins that fulcrum sells

and if they send you in for inspection just change shiz over to the kinds and oem

[beeza]

just do as i do get monoflex and if cops hassle you tell em they are the legal teins that fulcrum sells

and if they send you in for inspection just change shiz over to the kinds and oem

Great idea but they would be stupidly highly priced.BIGGEST RIPOFF EVA :thumbdwn:

I'm just glad I didn't get K-sports before and defected by a cop - Which I,like most didn't know that was even possible.Whatever.Save my money and keep it stock.**** it.

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Get the Koni's in Sydney Brett ;)

[ek4-guy]

Great idea but they would be stupidly highly priced.BIGGEST RIPOFF EVA :thumbdwn:

I'm just glad I didn't get K-sports before and defected by a cop - Which I,like most didn't know that was even possible.Whatever.Save my money and keep it stock.**** it.

well my monoflex was only $2050 from a trader on here and the jdm SS was only $1200 at the time

direct from japan

[ek4-guy]

Get the Koni's in Sydney Brett ;)

this is also another idea :thumbsup:

are they dampner adjustable

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Stop mucking around Brett!!!!

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118726

I will organise to pick them up for you man then we can deal with Deliver!!!!

[beeza]

But not height adjustable though...

I want a finger gap at both front and rear if I do it.atm it's 1 finger at frong and 3 at rear.

[02gzm]

Get some skunk2 adjustable sleeves (http://passwordjdm.com/Skunk2-Coilover-Sleeve-Kit-88-00-Civic-P2910C518.aspx?UserID=12995702&SessionID=ofrvur3HP0u2JvWHWgI8) to suit? I think Koni may actually do them too.

There's a few ppl on here that use this setup

[ek4-guy]

But not height adjustable though...

I want a finger gap at both front and rear if I do it.atm it's 1 finger at frong and 3 at rear.

as above you need sleeves then

ground control is another brand

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

get ground controls Brett or custom springs

[beeza]

Get some skunk2 adjustable sleeves (http://passwordjdm.com/Skunk2-Coilover-Sleeve-Kit-88-00-Civic-P2910C518.aspx?UserID=12995702&SessionID=ofrvur3HP0u2JvWHWgI8) to suit? I think Koni may actually do them too.

There's a few ppl on here that use this setup

Thank U,they look good.Just a spring that's height adjustable yeah.

A couple of q's please.

* Can I use these with my stock shocks?
* Will they give me a 1 finger gap at front and rear?
* Will it still allow my car to be legal,i.e The suspension can travel 1/3 of the distance between the bump stops?

Where is the cheapest place to buy?

[vinnY]

afaik sleeves aren't illegal either unless welded to the shock or something
probably doesn't help with the unknown linear spring rates either

[beeza]

Thanks Vin!!