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nvmee
05-09-2009, 10:25 AM
as the title says

FASN8U
05-09-2009, 04:57 PM
have you ridden 600 and a 1000? ride both before you buy and see what you feel is enough power. personaly i went 600 because is ridicuoulsly fast and has way more than enough power for me , its also a much lighter bike than the 1000 wich is good for me seeings i only weigh 65 odd kg. that aside i realy cant justify the extra fuel usage , tire /chain/sproket wear that a 1000 would need when the 600 is heaps.

like i said though try them both , if the 1000 is to heavy / powerful for your likeing and the 600 dosent cut it you could always go a 750.

Twincam16
06-09-2009, 03:48 AM
What about a 675, or a 750 ;)

nvmee
06-09-2009, 10:23 AM
well i too the cbr600 and the r6 yesterday, personally i wanted more power. but didnt get to ride the 1000cc

FASN8U
06-09-2009, 11:45 AM
time to jump on a 750 - 1000 them im sure either will fufill your need for speed :)

e240
06-09-2009, 04:20 PM
If you intend to race in the supersport class, 600...
everything else, 1000...

Because if you get a 600 just for street, you'd eventually want a 1000...

If it were me though, I'd just straight to an 1198

Jomsy
06-09-2009, 04:34 PM
the only reasons you wont get a 1000 is a)your scared or b)you cant afford it

they out do a 600 in any comparison you can think of

gumbs
06-09-2009, 04:53 PM
Wait you came from a 250 to 600 and you wanted more power? Torque I can understand but power? Admittedly I'm no Rossi, but there's only two or three sections of road where I feel the need for more power than my little SV can give.

The reason most people buy thous is the torque, you can come into a corner in the wrong the gear and just power out. The jump for a 250 to a 1000cc is pretty big and about half the people I know that have done it either binned it badly or got rid of the 1000.

Give a daytona 675, and a gsxr750 a try before you decide on the 1000cc.

FASN8U
06-09-2009, 06:22 PM
the only reasons you wont get a 1000 is a)your scared or b)you cant afford it

they out do a 600 in any comparison you can think of

very retarted theory.

e240
06-09-2009, 06:24 PM
Anyone who thinks the GSXR750 is tamer than a 1K are kidding themselves.
It has practically the same bite as a 1K. LOL

Twincam16
07-09-2009, 02:27 PM
Anyone who thinks the GSXR750 is tamer than a 1K are kidding themselves.
It has practically the same bite as a 1K. LOL

Prob a bit easier to ride on daily basis though :thumbsup:

A 1000cc+ wont be something you'd want to ride through daily traffic...

nuganen
07-09-2009, 02:32 PM
the only reasons you wont get a 1000 is a)your scared or b)you cant afford it

they out do a 600 in any comparison you can think of

RIGHT.......
and you have ridden both on track and street?
a 600 is alot easier to flick around then a 1000 bike around corners

e240
07-09-2009, 03:16 PM
I didn't find a diff, they were the same and..hee..never had a problem riding through daily traffic..

and we're abit more aggressive in traffic back in SE Asia compared to here.




Prob a bit easier to ride on daily basis though :thumbsup:

A 1000cc+ wont be something you'd want to ride through daily traffic...

nvmee
07-09-2009, 06:39 PM
ok sorry, power wasnt the right word. torque is =p i felt the 600 was gutless at the bottom, but i hear a power commander can fix that issue but im yet to ride a 600 wioth a power commander. Admittedly I have not hopped onto the 1000cc because it looks intimidating to ride around the roundabouts etc but ive been told its just a mental factor


i will be riding around 400-500kms a week. hope that helps

FASN8U
07-09-2009, 07:10 PM
mate by the sounds of it your using it to commute. not to be buyist but i think a 600 is much more practical than a 1000 to commute on. but then again no super sport bike is realy that practical for long rides/commuting but who the hell would be seen riding a tourer :p

Twincam16
07-09-2009, 08:15 PM
I didn't find a diff, they were the same and..hee..never had a problem riding through daily traffic..

and we're abit more aggressive in traffic back in SE Asia compared to here.

Depends on the route of travel, ie my daily ride is about 10 minutes riding through peak hour traffic, I would be harder pressed trying to squeeze an R1 through some of the gaps I get through :p

Some 1000's also tend to bite waaaay too hard for stop start traffic, all depends on the bike. Ie a fireblade wouldnt be a problem for daily riding, but might not be raw enough for your liking

gumbs
07-09-2009, 10:05 PM
ok sorry, power wasnt the right word. torque is =p i felt the 600 was gutless at the bottom, but i hear a power commander can fix that issue but im yet to ride a 600 wioth a power commander. Admittedly I have not hopped onto the 1000cc because it looks intimidating to ride around the roundabouts etc but ive been told its just a mental factor


i will be riding around 400-500kms a week. hope that helps

That makes alot more sense. Seriously go check out a Daytona 675, anyone that owns one raves about them. Being a triple they produce a decent amount of torque and in a head to head they can match the jap I4 in almost everyway.

nvmee
08-09-2009, 02:58 AM
hmm i actually forgot about the 675 but may do some research on it before this weekend ^^

i also plan to ride rain or shine, so i need to take all this into consideration. i think i heard nowadays the newer models have switches/chips to lower the power when needed ( i think they are on the 09 r6 and r1? correct me if im wrong )

gumbs
08-09-2009, 07:37 AM
Dunno about the yammies but the gix thou has it, by all accounts its a gimmick. If your ham fisted enough to need it in the wet your ham fisted enough to still **** up no matter weather your putting down 140hp or 60hp.

FASN8U
08-09-2009, 04:55 PM
new gixxers have them the 600's , 750's and the 1000. to be honest i dont realy use it but it is noticebly different and i would use it if i was ever stuck out in rain to be on the safe side. i know the 09 r1 has this feature to , not sure about previous models though

lo0se3r
08-09-2009, 07:32 PM
damn, 400-500kms a week!? lol stick with your 250 or atleast keep it, much more economical.
My work mate picked up a 08 cbr 600, after about 2 weeks said he wished he had kept his across also, said the cbr drank as much as his gli ek civic

blayun_rr
09-09-2009, 09:17 PM
hmm.. well tbh i have never ridden a thou, power wise i find the 600 has plenty on the street.. otherwise if i wanted more grunt id just do 520 conversion ^ i also wish i had kept my 250 :(

nvmee
10-09-2009, 07:15 AM
hmmm yeh thats true the r6 does have plenty for the street, by all means it is not slow but i kind of yearn for that extra torque. i been riding a 250 for 3 years now lol, so i decided to sell up and get something something better

Twincam16
10-09-2009, 09:53 AM
250 -> 1000 is a big jump

DNTBLO_S2k
16-09-2009, 12:03 PM
i just brought borth.. solved the issue strate away...

nvmee
16-09-2009, 12:34 PM
so what was the issue

c0LL1n
18-09-2009, 07:56 PM
Thought bout gettin a V-Twin? there quite torquey down low if that what your looking for...

To be honest if your communting daily and doing a lot of kms then maybe considering something else rather than a sports bike.. Maybe a Daytona Street Triple or Ducati Monster something like that is good to ride everyday...

newguyoz
30-09-2009, 11:45 AM
I had both and have ridden both track and street. I can honestly say that i found it easier to punt around my 600 (GSXR) around a circuit than my blade. The blade does take alot more muscle, requires you to be smoother and a better rider to be ridden fast.

On the street i have riden my mates new 600's which have no torque below 7 grand so you have to slip the clutch quite alot in comparison to get them off the line in traffic than compared with a thou.

GO for a 675 if you want a sports bike. I rode one for an afternoon before i decided on my blade and it was brilliant. It will wheelie almost as well as a thou (i was really surprised by this fact) off the throttle in first.

IF you are looking for a commuter than maybe something with a less aggressive riding position like a monster or street tripple.

If you are going from a 250 then i will say this, you only go as fast as you twist the throttle, it doesnt matter what bike you ride. In saying that, 600's are alot more forgiving and will give you similar thrills on the road to a thou. Thou's should really be for experienced riders but they sell them to anyone these days. My blade is relatively sedate under 5 grand. But most bikes are. Once your over 10 grand is where it tries to pull your arms out of your sockets.

Twincam16
30-09-2009, 01:32 PM
Looking forward to some bikes between the 6-1000 cc bracket

Lepperfish
07-10-2009, 04:36 PM
Anyone who thinks the GSXR750 is tamer than a 1K are kidding themselves.
It has practically the same bite as a 1K. LOL


I haven't ridden a 1000cc but my gixxer 750 was off the hook fast.!!!! :wave:

nvmee
14-10-2009, 07:58 PM
when you guys ride, can you tell the difference between braking and suspension in each of the 600s? i cant :S

people tell me i should?

Twincam16
14-10-2009, 11:28 PM
when you guys ride, can you tell the difference between braking and suspension in each of the 600s? i cant :S

people tell me i should?


Have you directly compared them one after another, or over a long time period.

Also depends how long and how hard you test the bike out to get full feedback, just like a car

Amanda
20-10-2009, 03:14 PM
Well I just put a deposit down on a 750 and am now shitting myself slightly more (thanks guys) withthe few comments of 'a 750 bits as hard as a thou' lol. Cant wait a week to go until I get to have a ride :)

nvmee
20-10-2009, 07:32 PM
ive ridde 750s, they arent scary if u just let it roll at the lights. but if you give it too much gas and let out the clutch it mite give u a shock ahha

ROCKET
05-11-2009, 11:46 AM
the best way to choose any bike is to ride them first ...u need to make sure u r comfortable, leg and arm reach , in terms of the power of the bike 600cc or 1000cc its up 2 u, what ever you get you will get use to over time ...u just need to learn and get use to it, and the best way to choose is to test ride the bikes that u r considering.

i just jumped from 250 to 1000 and loving it.

crx51
07-11-2009, 02:36 AM
Okay, a few points of advice. Firstly, if you are only just moving up from a 250 and don't know what to choose out of a 600 and a 1000 then you should be going conservative. If you haven't ridden a 1000 then you aren't going to miss the power. The difference between your old bike and a 600 is like the difference between a honda civic and an nsx.

People claim a lot of things when it comes to bikes and their ability to 'take their bikes to the edge' .. I tend not to believe most of them.

Any new 600 will run 11 second quarters with a decent pilot. You DONT need more acceleration than that.

That said, anyone that gets a 600 will eventually want a thousand. You will get to a point that you can wring its neck in a 'straight line' on a 'good' surface. There would be less than one percent of people that could truly ride them anywhere near their potential other than in a straight line on the street though, and most that try.. die.

Comments like - "thousands beat 600s everywhere!" aren't well thought about.

If you want a sportsbike then buy a 600, secondhand so that in a year or two when you're ready to trade up you don't lose too much money. The 675 is a damn good bike by all accounts but is far less comfortable than the other 600s, stiffer suspension, thinner seat and more aggressive geometry and twitchy handling.

It comes down to personal preference. You should buy the bike you are comfortable on. I ride an 07 cbr600rr and commute on it. They have decent geometry for a sportsbike. There are bikes that are more practical for the job, but then there are cars more practical than s2000s to drive to work too, it comes down to what we want.

I think the fact you asked the question means you aren't confident enough that you should be getting a thousand.

A thousand can be ridden as slowly or quickly as a 600 this is true. But the fact is most people try to extract the most of their performance vehicles and without the requisite ability, whilst either bike will kill you, a thousand could do it easier. It's easier to get the wheel off the ground without thinking..

Imagine coming out of a second gear corner on a mountain road with your friends and inputting too much throttle a bit before you've straightened up.. On a 600 you'll unsettle the bike and need to brake or release the throttle as you push wide. On a thousand there is a good chance the front wheel will be off the ground rendering you without steering or the rear will break traction - it has never happened to me on a 600 but certainly has on the bigger bikes.

I've ridden all manner of bikes and up to current hyperbikes superbikes and supersports. I think in your position, you can never progress through the capacity ratings 'too slow'.

You won't ride a 600 past its capabilities on the road (maybe past yours but not its).. Once you readjust to the new level of power you have and feel you want something with more torque to make easier progress, then move up to a thousand. But then be ready for more fuel consumption, half the life out of tyres, double the insurance costs etc etc etc...

They're fun but they're dangerous, ride the bikes and choose the one that makes you most comfortable.

PM me if you would like to discuss more in depth. I'll also need to be selling my bike as I just got married so theres an option for you! : )

Keep safe,

nikdevid
19-11-2009, 08:02 PM
1000cc is bigger so it has more sound to it.The 600cc would be more friendly than a 1000cc rocket.Choose as per your requirement.All those brands are good.

Twincam16
19-11-2009, 11:28 PM
1000cc is bigger so it has more sound to it.The 600cc would be more friendly than a 1000cc rocket.Choose as per your requirement.All those brands are good.

Sound has nothing to do with it

Best way to tell is to try out friends ones, test ride at shops, sit on them, get a feel for them.

If you have a 250, dont jump to a 1000, its suicide

jonniesz
22-11-2009, 12:08 PM
i have a mate who jumped from 250 - 1000, when he left the dealer he popped a mono and slammed into the tree, outside the dealer. Its too much of a power jump I personally wouldnt do it

Twincam16
23-11-2009, 12:44 AM
i have a mate who jumped from 250 - 1000, when he left the dealer he popped a mono and slammed into the tree, outside the dealer. Its too much of a power jump I personally wouldnt do it

Oh shit... was he alright... sounds about right though, 1/4 twist of the throttle on 1000 will still have more power than a 250

FASN8U
26-11-2009, 05:04 PM
whatta dip shit , clearly underestimated the power . bikes dont lift by themselves. a 1000 might get up easy but you still gotta flick the throttle to do it

rpm boy
27-11-2009, 04:01 PM
i have a mate who jumped from 250 - 1000, when he left the dealer he popped a mono and slammed into the tree, outside the dealer. Its too much of a power jump I personally wouldnt do it

lol i would have paid to see that