Suggestion of motec Ecu for K20

[jesmine0]

Hi guys,

At the moment, I am using Hondata Kpro for my K20. However, I am facing the BIGGEST issue where there's non hondata tuner in Perth!! I know it sound funny but yeah, is TRUE!! NON IN WA

So, it means I can't TUNE MY CAR!!! I had to load the calibration myself from Hondata website and it doesn't match my mods.

Thus, I am thinking of why not just switching to Motec. BUT, I dun know anything about Motec and it haven't been covered up much in Ozhonda.

Thus, I would like some opinion on which Motec should I go, how they function and how much would it cost to setup and get tuned.

After reading through some article n found i can use the cheapest M4 for 4 cyc k20. it had 3dimensional map but not sure if it similar to honda. or M400 but it is too $$$.

Anyone here used Motec? would like some input from eryone before i move forward to them.

cheers.

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

IMO you'd be best off driving to the nearest Hondata tuner.

If you were to come to Sydney there is a place for you to stay at my place matey.

[SHU-ES1]

I've heard Kpro is the way to go with K20 mate. Find yourself a tuner! :(

[Bludger]

I think the motec can do what the hondata can and more.

just a lot more money.

drive your car to Sydney to get it tuned.

Or pay my air ticket to WA and back, plus fuel.

I will drive your car to Sydney to tune and back to you at no charge.

[felixd]

hondata = honda only n motec u can use for many cars.

[SPL_K]

Best thing you can do if you want to stay local in WA is find out who are all your main tuners and talk to them about what ecu to run since they'll be the ones tuning your car all the time, they might not even recommend Motec... they might recommend you something else. I doubt you'd be wanting to drive to Sydney all the time for a touch up tune for an extra mod.

[TheSaint]

have you tried Cypher Inustries? they do honda engine swaps and alot of honda work, honbits is just around the corner from them

you can also try RMS, leigh hynes is a fantastic tuner, and he was the state rally champ last year

WA kinda sux for JDM tuning and parts support ... ive been down this road before ... it sux lol

[JDM.Power]

motec, if your a baller go for it! i would have went for motec if it was a reasonable price.

[CRXer]

if the tuner cant tune a K20 with kpro,then they would not have much hope of tuning a k20 with any other ecu.

find someone who is confident tuning a k,& tell them the software is freely available on the net & will take a few seconds to download & install & is very easy to use.

[jesmine0]

I wish i could drive to Sydney, but
Pertol + fine + selling Kpro = Motec + install & tuned :P

the honbits selling parts only. being there couple times. nvr seem them doing mechanic job or tuning.

Mostly, WA ppl still more comfortable with B series. thus Power FC, apexi neo is common choice over here. too bad apexi doesn't make power fc for K series.

there were still very very & very limited ppl wanna kseries.

[Chris_F]

if the tuner cant tune a K20 with kpro,then they would not have much hope of tuning a k20 with any other ecu.

find someone who is confident tuning a k,& tell them the software is freely available on the net & will take a few seconds to download & install & is very easy to use.

this is very true... I was going to say the same thing.

any good tuner who has experience tuning a variable valve timing engine should find tuning a kpro very easy.

since the base maps come with the correct settings for the idle/cold start all they really have to do is tune for full throttle power.

Also, a Motec m4 won't run a k20 since it can't control variable valve timing.

For that you need an m400, and about $10,000 in the bank. No joke, the retail price for a variable valve timing enabled motec m400 is over $4000.

Stick with kpro and search harder for a good tuner, it's really the only reasonably priced option.

[Slaz]

As suggested find a tuner, also someone that can tune a motec or the like will be familair enough with tuning software and be able to tune the hondata, other option would be to consider hiring a local dyno and getting a tuner to come to you, it would be cheaper then going the motec route, and the motec wont gain you any more power or drivability, if anything it will be worse unless alot of time is spent getting all the little things right which can take days such as cold start, running air con, ect, not to mention its plug and play and the car can be returned to stock if or when you might want to.

Goodluck. :thumbsup:

[jesmine0]

Thanks for the advices.

The reason I wan motec is i am able to get the car tuned, run properly & reliablity. I m not those baller which spend $$$ just for bling or showing off. But, i want the car been done in the proper way and not doggy thing like without tuning after mods. I would rather spend those money to do the thing right. But, due to the very very limited budget, i had to make the right decision.

considering getting tuner from east for tuning only can solve temporary issues. looking further, if any mod done to the car in future, i can't tune it anymore. then I heard from a frien that there's motec tuner in wa tat tune honda. tats the reason leads me to motec. but they are so pricy!!!

may be i sud learn tuning myself :P shouldn't be hard 'JOKE'

[Chr1s]

Go see your local tuning shops, pick which one gives you the best vibe and relationship, speak to them about what your options are, not ozhonda.

A handful on people know about ECU tuning on this forum. I wouldn't take the advice from here as a general guide.

In general, ECU's do the same thing. Motec, haltech, etc. You won't need the power of a Motec M4 Pro on a street car, I don't expect you to pay a tuner to do individual cylinder trim - for example.

[45SET]

the honbits selling parts only. being there couple times. nvr seem them doing mechanic job or tuning.

Mostly, WA ppl still more comfortable with B series. thus Power FC, apexi neo is common choice over here. too bad apexi doesn't make power fc for K series.

there were still very very & very limited ppl wanna kseries.

Going by the above comments... have you actually asked anyone? Or have you just jumped straight on here in the asumption that no one in WA tunes K-series... I know of a couple of DC5/FN2's that are raced in WA... so they must have been tuned somewhere...

Ask some of the shops you know of that deal with Honda's if they can tune Hondata, if they know of anyone that can... or if they would be willing to give it a shot.

[TheSaint]

Going by the above comments... have you actually asked anyone? Or have you just jumped straight on here in the asumption that no one in WA tunes K-series... I know of a couple of DC5/FN2's that are raced in WA... so they must have been tuned somewhere...

Ask some of the shops you know of that deal with Honda's if they can tune Hondata, if they know of anyone that can... or if they would be willing to give it a shot.

surely Cypher would know sumone, i know of a few K20 converted civics and Dc5's around perth that have been tuned and are raced

ask around man ... someone might point you to someone that will point you to someone lol

[jesmine0]

I'm pretty sure talk to a guy from cypher three month ago who mentioned he try to did k20 eg conversion while i m selling my k20z1. n i m pretty sure he mentioned tat they dun tune hondata.

i had been chatting to several honda workshop around since half year ago n looking for hondata tuner. thats y disappionted me of non of them know who can tune hondata.

Haizzzzzz

N there weren't tat much kswap around here. I only know vision R had one ek swap

[45SET]

A fair bit has changed in the K-pro tunning field over the last year or so... might be a good idea to ask around again.

I know about 2 years ago there was only 1 or 2 people in Australia that could tune k-pro... now i've heard of about 2-3 work shops in Brisbane that can tune it.

Failing that, there are a few DC5/FN2/EP3's over in WA running k-pro, ask them who tuned there cars, or if they have someone who tunes it.

[bradb16a]

motec can do it you will need to get a m400 $2828 but for a bit extra m800 $3500.. you will need a few option though .. cam control 330 lamba 550..
when it come to kpro and motec it like you like black or white chocolate... in Singapore and Asian land motec is the shit not kpro

[Slaz]

But for the application why spend the extra on a Motec, whilst they have the name and are the shit when it comes down to it, unless your using functions like individual cylinder tuning, traction, launch, and the other 1000 motorsport features they come with, you will get no more power out of it for the expense.

[jrxs-r]

Haltech have got a DC5 k20 plug in ECU in the works under R&D at the moment. I have enquired about it just over a week ago, and they have not released it as of yet. Waiting for one....

[lukits01]

Hi guys,

At the moment, I am using Hondata Kpro for my K20. However, I am facing the BIGGEST issue where there's non hondata tuner in Perth!! I know it sound funny but yeah, is TRUE!! NON IN WA

So, it means I can't TUNE MY CAR!!! I had to load the calibration myself from Hondata website and it doesn't match my mods.

Thus, I am thinking of why not just switching to Motec. BUT, I dun know anything about Motec and it haven't been covered up much in Ozhonda.

Thus, I would like some opinion on which Motec should I go, how they function and how much would it cost to setup and get tuned.

After reading through some article n found i can use the cheapest M4 for 4 cyc k20. it had 3dimensional map but not sure if it similar to honda. or M400 but it is too $$$.

Anyone here used Motec? would like some input from eryone before i move forward to them.

cheers.

You can't use a M4 for K20A, it does not have the ability to run the variable cam, at the very least you will need a M400 with variable cam option enabled. There are plenty of MOTEC tuners in WA, to them a Honda K20 is nothing more than another engine to wire, calibrate and tune. If you are looking for "K-series specialist" there's no such thing here, but you seem to understand the quirks of a K20 considering your project car :thumbsup:. My K20Z4 with DBW is running M400, PM me if you'd like more info.

FYI as far as WA tuning scene there's a DC5S running Jenvey ITB with Kpro doing race events, Vision-R K20 EK, a few FN2s running reflash ECU.
I've been told EVO-R and Vision-R can tune Kpro, you can give them a go if you insist on using Hondata. Otherwise some of the other guys do online tuning by sending datalogs, or fly tuners from elsewhere.

[jesmine0]

cool. wil gif VISIONR a try.

don't really like the customer service of EVO R.
But I remember the owner mentioned they just employ a tuner from JAPAN n can tune HKS F-CON V Pro n should able use it for honda as well. But nvr heard about hondata.

[lukits01]

cool. wil gif VISIONR a try.

don't really like the customer service of EVO R.
But I remember the owner mentioned they just employ a tuner from JAPAN n can tune HKS F-CON V Pro n should able use it for honda as well. But nvr heard about hondata.

that sounds like Xspeed rather than EVO-R