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Muzz
10-09-2009, 04:19 PM
Hey, ive searched a heap, but havnt been able to find what i need.

Iv just got a prop valve for doing a drum to disk conversion on my cxi ek.
Ive found plenty of info on part numbers like 3040, 3030, 4040, etc. Which are stamped onto the prop valve.

But im guessing these are the prop valves for eg civics as mine has nothing like that stamped on it.

The one i got is stamped "sc6E" near the lower bolt, that bolts it to the chassis. Can somone confirm if its off a gli ek or vtir ek?

As a side note, the one on my cxi is stamped a different number.
Thanks

vinnY
10-09-2009, 04:33 PM
i don't think the ek4 has a prop valve does it? thought it was done in the abs module

flipfire
10-09-2009, 05:37 PM
Afaik, those numbers are the pressure to front/rear brakes, which is 40/40 on an EK4

Muzz
10-09-2009, 05:41 PM
i don't think the ek4 has a prop valve does it? thought it was done in the abs module

Yeah im guessing ur right, im talking any non abs 4 disk brake ek.

SPEEDCORE
10-09-2009, 06:47 PM
ABS cars still have prop valve dude, at least my EK4 did..... can you wait an hour or so? I'll go into the roof/attic and get a number for you from my EK4 one I got up there.

kera_1
10-09-2009, 07:02 PM
All cars should have prop valves but just depends whether the strength it has with or without ABS...but where do I find the numbers?

SPEEDCORE
10-09-2009, 07:03 PM
Ok got two sets of numbers for you... both stamped on it.

7N3

and

N22AH

hisoka
10-09-2009, 07:11 PM
did you get the wrong one or you not sure.

i got a ek9 one could fit ? its got 6 valves.

but your probably needing a 4 valve one for your swap.

Killa From Manila
10-09-2009, 08:28 PM
my ek9 1 is stamped B15AG, it has 4 valves whereas my ek cxi has 6 valves. im thinking this has to do with abs. also on the RHS in circles it has (6)(B)(4), no idea what it means though

hisoka
10-09-2009, 09:17 PM
lol my mistake.. ek9 one has 4 valves.. ek1 6 valves

sangyz
10-09-2009, 09:56 PM
the ek9 has 4 valves correct but thats for the abs. theres also an ek9 proportional valve which is 6 valves for the non abs ek9.

hisoka
11-09-2009, 12:20 AM
correcto~

98vtir
11-09-2009, 12:35 PM
Apologies for thread hijack but I got a question about ABS

Am I correct in saying Vti-R has ABS as standard? Cause if so I'm pretty sure I have mine disconnected as I've breaked pretty hard a few times and no ABS. And when I do a 5 lug swap will i have to get non abs EK9 prop valve?

SPEEDCORE
11-09-2009, 01:07 PM
The EK4 had ABS as standard here in Australia.

ABS not kicking in could mean an issue with the module/pump or the ABS board. Could be as simple as a fuse too.

Not sure on the 5lug swap... considering the 5lug rear hubs are more than likely to have the ABS ring and also your front shafts still having ABS rings..... I'd imagine you could get it to still retain ABS with the existing computer by using the appropirate prop valve.

Whether there is a different program on the ABS board between ABS EK civic's I would not have a clue.... ie. say the EK9's equiped with ABS having a different program that is not as intrusive and liking to cut in early compared to the other base cooking models.

sangyz
11-09-2009, 01:54 PM
Apologies for thread hijack but I got a question about ABS

Am I correct in saying Vti-R has ABS as standard? Cause if so I'm pretty sure I have mine disconnected as I've breaked pretty hard a few times and no ABS. And when I do a 5 lug swap will i have to get non abs EK9 prop valve?

There might be a problem with your abs. even though you do a 5 lug swap and get the non abs ek9 prop valve. theres no point as your ek vti-r has only 4 brake lines for the proportinal valve as the non abs ek9 prop valve will need 6. So best thing to do is still get the abs proportional valve and find out whats wrong with your abs.

98vtir
11-09-2009, 03:37 PM
Cool beans, I'll check it out. May be a good idea to get the ABS working eh...

Muzz
15-09-2009, 11:01 AM
Ok, another quick question.
Ive put it all in and put in new brake fluid, but my pedal feels really soft for the 1st inch or so of travel. Im guessing theres air somwhere in the system.

My workshop manual is a US manual, and i need to know if the bleeding sequence is the same for AUDM models (rear right, front left, rear left, front right)?

sangyz
15-09-2009, 11:27 AM
well us manual would be different because they are LHD so the mastercylinder would be on the left. so they would be opposite to us. AUDM models are RHD so the master cylinder is on the right (if sitting in car) so it would be on the left if facing the car and so you would start furthest away from the master cylinder which is rear left (passenger side). :D

Muzz
15-09-2009, 12:56 PM
Awsome man! can anyone else confirm?

SPEEDCORE
15-09-2009, 03:47 PM
Well that is how I do mine.... never had an issue with that sequence when bled properly.

MM89
15-09-2009, 03:52 PM
when bleeding the brakes
begin furthest from the BMC.
hence being an AUDM model EK, it will be located on driver side.
therefore begin with rear passenger, rear driver, front passenger
and finally front driver.

Muzz
16-09-2009, 08:02 AM
Cool, will bleed the brakes again tonite.
Thanks guys!

dahondr98
23-09-2009, 11:46 PM
Apologies for thread hijack but I got a question about ABS

Am I correct in saying Vti-R has ABS as standard? Cause if so I'm pretty sure I have mine disconnected as I've breaked pretty hard a few times and no ABS.

In 11 years of driving my 98 Vti-R, I could count the number of times I've had the ABS start working on one hand. Only one of those was in the dry, when a 17 year old school kid ran in front of my car when I was about 15 metres away doing 40km/h. You really have to stomp on the brake pedal to get it to come on in the dry. But if you can't get it to come on when it's wet (or a dirt road) and you stomp on the brake pedal, then there's something wrong.

As already said, check the fuses in the ABS fusebox (on the LHS of the engine compartment, behind the power steering fluid and windscreen washer bottles). However, I'd expect a red light on the dashboard if the ABS isn't working - there's a red light for the ABS between the speedo and fuel/temp gauges, and it should come on for a short time when you turn the ignition to on, and again when you start the car, then go out. If the light doesn't come on at all, then check the globe in the dash.