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mikoZ
16-10-2009, 09:23 PM
My question is very simple: will a JDM DC5R brembo caliper can be fitted on my 01 s2000 directly.if need sum custom work, any one have experience on doing that...

i heard abt a spoon caliper can fit on both DC5 and S2000, just wondering the DC5 we talking abt here is a AUDM or JDM?

and same question abt Rotors

plz help,thx gus

ludecrs
16-10-2009, 10:39 PM
I believe JDM calipers fit - bolt on, and AUDM won't.

Nismo3oi
16-10-2009, 11:43 PM
jdm dc5r calipers fit s2000 using your existing rotors

mikoZ
17-10-2009, 01:45 AM
jdm dc5r calipers fit s2000 using your existing rotors

or, possible to using DBA4000 with this caliper on s2000 ??

jaeyon
17-10-2009, 01:29 PM
what advantages do the dc5r callipers have over the stock ones when they run the same sized rotors?

bankids
17-10-2009, 03:10 PM
looks way better,

jaeyon
17-10-2009, 03:49 PM
lol is that it?

DC5TYPER
17-10-2009, 05:05 PM
Option 1: Spoon or JDM Brembo Calipers. About $2k

Option 2: $2k and Under
Braided Line Upgrade F & R
DBA 4000 Front
DBA Slotted Rear
Endless/Project Mu Pads

Option 2 will give you better braking. I had the Spoon calipers and sold them.

This is the option I took and has pay'd off big time for me, I do track my car often.

stndrd
17-10-2009, 06:15 PM
the advantage of having a 4-pot caliper over a 2-pot caliper, or any bigger size caliper, is that by being able to apply more direct force over a greater area, your braking distance will be reduced. in a conventional 2-pot sliding caliper, when you press the brake pedal, 2 pistons push out onto the inside pad, pulling the caliper onto the outside pad, which in turn, applies the brakes.

by having 2 pistons pushing directly onto each pad, you are "theoretically" doubling the amount of force applied to the pads when you push the brake pedal.

for general street driving at the speed limit, a pad/rotor upgrade is good enough imo. tho if the car is going to be tracked, braided lines (not rwc legal in vic) and 4/6-pot calipers with pads/rotors is unstoppable

mikoZ
17-10-2009, 08:47 PM
i had a mini 6pot endless brake kit on pervious dc5r, and changed jdm hub and LCA...Now, i have a chance to buy it back from the current owner...
to fit it the calipers on my s2000, seems i have to custom made the bridge...will the custom bridge safty for track using?

DC5TYPER
18-10-2009, 08:33 PM
the advantage of having a 4-pot caliper over a 2-pot caliper, or any bigger size caliper, is that by being able to apply more direct force over a greater area, your braking distance will be reduced. in a conventional 2-pot sliding caliper, when you press the brake pedal, 2 pistons push out onto the inside pad, pulling the caliper onto the outside pad, which in turn, applies the brakes.

by having 2 pistons pushing directly onto each pad, you are "theoretically" doubling the amount of force applied to the pads when you push the brake pedal.

for general street driving at the speed limit, a pad/rotor upgrade is good enough imo. tho if the car is going to be tracked, braided lines (not rwc legal in vic) and 4/6-pot calipers with pads/rotors is unstoppable

Changing the front to bigger calipers and leaving the rears stock could change the brake bias. On a front wheel drive that is maybe ideal. More front braking power is ideal. On a S2K I would beg to differ.

Also Braided line ARE STREET LEGAL in vic if they are ADR approved. Hightek Brakes in Moorabbin custom make ADR approved braided lined for any car and give you an certificate for ADR compliance. They made my 4 lines for around $300.

render.
19-10-2009, 08:42 AM
The plans that I have for my brakes are:

Carbotech XP10/XP8 - Seems to have the best comprise between price and performance
Slotted Rotors - Carbotechs apparently work best with new rotors as well and slotted should help cooling.
RBF600 Brake Fluid
F+R Brake Ducting - Should help the pads last at least 1-2 track days longer than normal (hopefully)

.::F[L]Y::.
20-10-2009, 09:25 PM
a wise person once said this to me when I wanted to uprgade my brakes...

'your S2000 wont go fast enough to require bigger brakes'

render.
21-10-2009, 08:26 AM
Y::.;2520182']a wise person once said this to me when I wanted to uprgade my brakes...

'your S2000 wont go fast enough to require bigger brakes'

agreed, however for track use most people just increase the efficiency of the current braking system by getting better pads and rotors.

stndrd
21-10-2009, 12:21 PM
just because you cant go "fast enough" doesnt mean much at all.

do i need to point out the c-west time attack s2k?

it has endless 6-piston mini front and rear. meaning you brake twice as late and twice as hard, which overall, makes you FASTER on the track!

Mr_will
21-10-2009, 12:36 PM
the advantage of having a 4-pot caliper over a 2-pot caliper, or any bigger size caliper, is that by being able to apply more direct force over a greater area, your braking distance will be reduced. in a conventional 2-pot sliding caliper, when you press the brake pedal, 2 pistons push out onto the inside pad, pulling the caliper onto the outside pad, which in turn, applies the brakes.

by having 2 pistons pushing directly onto each pad, you are "theoretically" doubling the amount of force applied to the pads when you push the brake pedal.

for general street driving at the speed limit, a pad/rotor upgrade is good enough imo. tho if the car is going to be tracked, braided lines (not rwc legal in vic) and 4/6-pot calipers with pads/rotors is unstoppable



youre missing a fairly important point - if your brakes are powerful enough to lock your wheels, then an upgrade with the aim of getting more braking 'force' is useless.

my da9 brakes are capable of locking my wheels with RE-001's quite easily. if i upgraded to a twin pot setup, for normal street use i wouldnt gain anything.

if, on the other hand, I got better tyres, I would have more grip, and be able to apply more braking force without locking my wheels, and thus reducing my stopping distance.

it is worth upgrading if you get brake fade, as bigger rotors/better pads will allow higher operating temperatures and/or better heat dissipation, which will allow for more consistent braking distances under repeated heavy use.

mocchi
21-10-2009, 06:56 PM
just because you cant go "fast enough" doesnt mean much at all.

do i need to point out the c-west time attack s2k?

it has endless 6-piston mini front and rear. meaning you brake twice as late and twice as hard, which overall, makes you FASTER on the track!

its not a stock engine. orange to apple.

Mr_will
21-10-2009, 07:54 PM
just because you cant go "fast enough" doesnt mean much at all.

do i need to point out the c-west time attack s2k?

it has endless 6-piston mini front and rear. meaning you brake twice as late and twice as hard, which overall, makes you FASTER on the track!

comparing two setups, exactly the same (engine output, weight, suspension, tyres etc) you cant just 'brake twice as late and twice as hard'.

your ability to brake is ALWAYS limited by a) the amount of grip you have (tyres, weight transfer from suspension etc) and b) brake fade.

mikoZ
22-10-2009, 09:32 AM
just because you cant go "fast enough" doesnt mean much at all.

do i need to point out the c-west time attack s2k?

it has endless 6-piston mini front and rear. meaning you brake twice as late and twice as hard, which overall, makes you FASTER on the track!

+1 support.

mikoZ
22-10-2009, 10:52 AM
the braking force much depends on size of the piston
but a 4/6 piston caliper will balance the force to brake pads much better than a 2

truly, brake upgrading is relevant to how many power ur car have, but which is not everything