AUS DC5R v JDM DC5R

[Kawasaki]

I considering getting an Aus DC5R but i want to convert it to japanese spec. What I would like to know is what did honda do to the Aus DC5R to reduce the compression/power?

This questions for Toda or anyone else who has an idea... If I was to use the k20a toda engine kit on an Aus spec DC5R would this end up producing the same amount of power as if I were to use the same kit on the JDM k20a?

Cheers.

[XXpl0Sive]

I dont know much, but I think you'd also need Japanese-quality fuel to achieve those specs? 100RON..

[Kawasaki]

yeah i knew fuel was different but i didnt think that was the main reason for the lower compression... correct me if im wrong.

[whtdc2]

I own a JDM DC5, using local fuel, I have no problem with that, As in Hong Kong and other Asian countries, they all getting JDM DC5, and they don't have 100 ron fuel there too, so what's the problem??

[Tofu]

LOL....hey Steven

yes, as whtdc2 said...this poor fuel quality is all BS

it's not just the power difference between the jdm and australian dc5r...
the suspension and brakes are all different...

you'll be spending more than just trying to find a JDM DC5R in the first place if you want to convert an australian DC5R

[Kawasaki]

hey, yeah i knew about the brakes they are easy to get and id most likely change the sus to tein coilovers. I didnt know about fuel ppl keep going on and on about the octaine and all, but i still would like to know if i should change the engine to the jdm k20a as i'd be using a toda engine kit and i dont know if power out puts would be the same on the aus and jdm k20a after using the kit??

[McChook]

Go buy a Mugen N1 K20a - cheaper than a JDM k20a in Australia

$7K if you want one....

There's about 40 differences between the AUDM and JDM models...... very different cars - and I have had the JDM DC5R race car sid by side with a local DC5R, and its like chalk and cheese..... everything is difference...

You can buy "track ready" DC5 ITRs in japan - ie - no stereo, etc....

[Kawasaki]

well my purchasing of the dc5r is abit of a way off. By track ready you mean cannot be registered in aus? Ive never heard of the mugen n1 k20a engine... any links or specific details?

Thanks

[McChook]

well my purchasing of the dc5r is abit of a way off. By track ready you mean cannot be registered in aus? Ive never heard of the mugen n1 k20a engine... any links or specific details?

Thanks

:confused: ?????No JDM DC5Rs are available in australia, let alone registerable...they would be road legal, but they aren't offered here

Mugen make a customer engine for race purposes - Just a hand build, polished and ported K20a from Mugen for teir customers - makes slightly more power than normal engine

[BLKCRX]

By the Aus Spec DC5, Order all the Toda Bolt ones and tune your car, and you will be more than happy with it. Power is only a limit to your Pocket.

Regards James

[Civic Type R]

well if someone can send me some info, i can complete my JDM DC5 vs AUDM DC5 page on my website.
atm i have the DC2R vs JDM version and the EK4 vs the EK9.
:)

[blackek]

dc5 type R in australia = dc5 type S in japan

[rAySiR]

dc5 type R in australia = dc5 type S in japan
be expecting alot of reponse to this comment...

*looks towards certain dc5r members* :rolleyes:

[sugapopcandy]

dc5 type R in australia = dc5 type S in japan
You mean Type S in the USA

[vtir22]

There are certainly a few genuine road-registered JDM DC5r's running around Australia. Where there's a will there's a way ;).

[type one]

Why isn't DC2R up as an option?

... vs AUSDM DC2R vs JDM DC2R hehehehe...

original = best :)

[JENZ_TEGRIE_2004]

You guys want power *puts head down in shame* at least you guys probably all know how to drive a manual and dont have an auto dc5 :(

[Tofu]

dc5 type R in australia = dc5 type S in japan

no it's not..

anyway...as i have said and others have said...you can't compare the JDM with ours

oh...and kawasaki...you might want to do more research on which coilover to get....
personally i wouldn't go tein...

[vtir22]

Yeah with a dc2r you're starting from a very near platform to JDM spec and have much more $$$ left to mod mod mod!

Tofu: that's probably the first negative comment I've heard about TEIN, quite interested to hear your reason :)

[Tofu]

it's not a negative comment...
it's just a suggestion for him to look further past the common coilover choice....

i have many friends and have met many people that have said "i will get Tein coilovers on my car"....and then i asked what other coilovers they had looked at and they couldn't give me an answer...

this is what i kinda feel is the case with kawasaki here...it doesn't seem like he's looked at his options in coilover selection extensively enuf. you will notice quite a few people on www.clubrsx.com (both Australia and USA section) who are more than happy with other coilovers...(BuddyClub, HKS HiperMax, Zeal, JIC...) all are fairly competitively priced.

[vtir22]

icic fair enough. Just thought there might be a bad experience or something regarding TEINs which lead you to prefer something else. :)

And I guess with coilovers, they will all offer a huge handling improvement over stock since essentially they're all stiffer - and unless they break on you, owners won't have anything but praise for them (and that goes for all brands). Which one is better? well it will always be a grey issue unless they're all professionally tested on the same day, same weather, same track, same driver, same tyres etc. Even then what's good for the test car might not suit your car. Then you add in your own custom suspension mods, sway bars, bushings, control arms etc and it could throw the comparison all up in the air again. :confused:

I guess since TEIN specialise just on coilovers and have been in the business so long, people know it's the safe choice.

[Kawasaki]

i have looked at other options but I havent gotten a professional opinion. I respect your opinion and i have looked at other brands, im not some dude that just goes yeah yeah ill get those. Ive heard that tein coilovers are meant to be very good. I have looked at the buddy club ones they are very appealing, most buddy club stuff is nice and often cheaper than the bigger brands, I dont know about the JIC's I know they are Primarily a Sus manufacturer but does anyone recommend them? I really want a good sus setup if i were to get a dc5.

And just for proof I do some window shopping at www.jhpusa.com/catalog :D

Cheers PS. give me some opinions on what you believe is a good coilover, moneys not really a major factor.

[Tofu]

if you're really serious about getting a hardcore coilover set and money is not an issue, for the DC5R look into Ohlins...

alternatively, you can get custom coilovers made to suit what you're after. Zeal have their Super Function R coilovers with customised spring setting. You can choose the spring rate yourself. These kits you're looking at past the $4000 mark.

but as reported in magazines and from track testing done by Australian distrubutor of zeal/Endless products, Centrax (www.centraxauto.com.au)...the DC5R has a characteristic of "floatyness" when the suspension setting is slightly on the hard side due to their suspension geometry and construction.

[pornstar]

DMS coilovers for me, work great, and so much adjustment that its soft for the street and 15 clicks of the knob and its a hardcore race suspension again.

[Kawasaki]

but as reported in magazines and from track testing done by Australian distrubutor of zeal/Endless products, Centrax (www.centraxauto.com.au)...the DC5R has a characteristic of "floatyness" when the suspension setting is slightly on the hard side due to their suspension geometry and construction.


floatyness... what do you actually mean, moves like a boat? Zeal products are very tempting yet i dont really know enough about sus settings to really know what kinda springs to get with the top of the range model. I think there was sus thread on here somewhere so i guess i better start learning.

[CivicOnBoost]

Simple solution to your problem, find a friend who lives in japan go over there purchase a JDM DC5R register it in you name for 12months and make sure you have proof of ownership and registration in your name in japan and then import it to Aust as a personal import.....

[Kawasaki]

yeah see the thing is I would actually like a car to drive in Australia and not everyone could be bothered to do that. I could just wait 6 months 4 the EP3 to be compiled and i have instant JDM in stead of waiting a year b4 i can get the car i paid $50K for.

[Tofu]

simply put..the DC5R doesn't have the best suspension...especially in the rear..
if you set it too stiff....it slides too much.
as for the Accord Euro...you can set it on stiffer settings, and it doesn't slide around as much....
there are other advantages and disadvantages between a multilink (DC5) vs macpherson struts (CL7) suspenion...

[edw-R]

Brake different, Rim different, Suspenion different, intake manifold diffenent....etc. Good luck!!

[Kawasaki]

yeah i know all that, thats easy stuff, I'm talking engine wise but it doesn't matter anymore

[timofytit]

I got TEINS and on my DC5R and i absolutely love em.

[marcus]

dc5r will be the last integra so far as there are no news of a new one coming up within the nxt few years from vtec.net

[TeMp]

simply put..the DC5R doesn't have the best suspension...especially in the rear..
if you set it too stiff....it slides too much.
as for the Accord Euro...you can set it on stiffer settings, and it doesn't slide around as much....
there are other advantages and disadvantages between a multilink (DC5) vs macpherson struts (CL7) suspenion...

DC5 has front macpherson struts and rear double wishbone...

Not quite sure what this multilink that you mention is?

I 100% agree with you that if you set the rear too stiff it starts sliding out very easily. I don't have coilovers on my Euro but the stock suspension is actually quite nice already. When I take quite hard turns with the Euro the stock sussy gives me alot of confidence already.

I am still playing with the suspension of my DC5R...

[mighty_mouse]

For street purposes, the genereal consensus on CRSX (just from my research) seems to favour Buddy Club N+ over the Tein's.

[tron07]

If the rear starts sliding, just counter steer and drift... :p Hopefully it doesnt goes into a spin.