b18c7 !!

[markgonzales3]

Hey guys,

how much would you hav 2 spend to get a b18c7 eg5 in the late 12secs early 13's ??

What mods ?

[pinoy-boi]

fully strip out the car will help lol

[RR-04-RR]

turbo it would be the cheapest/easiest way. otherwise.. get ready to spend a ton of money to get to that sort of time lol

Lukezen27 has a eg5 b16a turbo.. and pb of 13.6.. will see if he has a new pb tonight!

[V73C]

If your looking for quick times, just bolt a turbo onto it.

[riceball]

as stated above

[dougie_504]

I hope you're planning to go FI man, coz it'll be pretty much impossible/not worth it going NA

[4age8u]

b16a on 12 will have to be atleast 600kg car lol and some good driving like shumaker lol

[dougie_504]

You'd have to do massive weight reduction...most of the interior, all sound deadening etc and basically just run the shell with a turbo'd engine running like 30 PSI and slick tyres <lol>

[markgonzales3]

I just want the car to be as fast as a s15 or wrx .. what do they pull on 1/4 mile??

[RR-04-RR]

I just want the car to be as fast as a s15 or wrx .. what do they pull on 1/4 mile??

depends... if you're talking about stock... pulling mid 13s will easily beat them

last time i went.. majority of rexys were pulling low to mid 14s

[dougie_504]

Why do you wanna go so hard in a straight line bro? Go for circuit racing, it's way more fun :)

[hisoka]

I just want the car to be as fast as a s15 or wrx .. what do they pull on 1/4 mile??

lol most cars who will bother to race you will be quite stockish running 14s , so that is acheivable.

but to really keep up with the fast ones your gonna have to snail it.

keeping in mind most modified street s15s and wrx are 200kw~250kw or more lol

[markgonzales3]

lol most cars who will bother to race you will be quite stockish running 14s , so that is acheivable.

but to really keep up with the fast ones your gonna have to snail it.

keeping in mind most modified street s15s and wrx are 200kw~250kw or more lol

how much would i have to spend to get into the 14s NA ? and what mods ?

[GSi_PSi]

a b16a with good bolts on should be sweet for hi 14s in a eg shell

[hisoka]

how much would i have to spend to get into the 14s NA ? and what mods ?

6 grand for a b18c. then maybe 3000 for bolt ons. header 1500, exhaust cat back 900, 400 competition intake injen,

should be good for 14s, jdm b18c stock in a integra does late 14s

[MWAKU]

its teh driver too, not just teh mods. lol.

[02gzm]

how much would i have to spend to get into the 14s NA ? and what mods ?

How long is a peice of string?

There's a lot of variables involved. Don't expect it to be a few hundred dollars.

[EK1.6LCIV]

NA engine, mega bucks and the use of Nitrous

budget for darton sleeves
mods for the right compression
could easily buy 2 s15s or 3-4 subies with the same budget

best bet would be to pick up an issue of Honda Tuning or sign up to any yank civic forum for better details as that's where a majority of the parts you will need will come from :)

[hiepy]

get a b18/b20 block and use your b16a head
few more boltons...
gut the car
slicks

[pinoy-boi]

NA engine, mega bucks and the use of Nitrous

budget for darton sleeves
mods for the right compression
could easily buy 2 s15s or 3-4 subies with the same budget

best bet would be to pick up an issue of Honda Tuning or sign up to any yank civic forum for better details as that's where a majority of the parts you will need will come from :)

WERE ARE U BUYING UR S15'S FROM??i hvent seen a s15 for under 15gs and they were sh*tboxes :p

[EK1.6LCIV]

mate Ive seen dozens over 15k that are shitboxes, anymore than 15k is a rip off (unless it's loaded up to the nines with some performance mods) shit you'd have a hard time selling one for 17k, see so many sit forsale for yonks lol

[pinoy-boi]

mate Ive seen dozens over 15k that are shitboxes, anymore than 15k is a rip off (unless it's loaded up to the nines with some performance mods) shit you'd have a hard time selling one for 17k, see so many sit forsale for yonks lol

cn u send me a link for a s15 under 15k??

[lithium]

6 grand for a b18c. then maybe 3000 for bolt ons. header 1500, exhaust cat back 900, 400 competition intake injen,

should be good for 14s, jdm b18c stock in a integra does late 14s

this sounds about right. no amount of NA bolt-ons will get your 1.6 vtec into the 14s

it's not cheap though, and i don't think a Civic is really about straight line speed. for cheap straight line speed you can't go past a car with a big engine - sell the EG, add $4k, buy a TJ Magna Sports/VR-X (a grandma's car) and you will be running 15 flat straight from the factory. plus you have two extra doors and a boot, and good acceleration can be obtained WITHOUT the 5k clutch drops needed in your average turbo/high rev N/A car :)

obviously you will not be able to turn a corner but you know, can't have everything :wave:

disclaimer yes i own a TJ Magna Sports ;)

[RR-04-RR]

this sounds about right. no amount of NA bolt-ons will get your 1.6 vtec into the 14s



A few good bolt ons and a good driver can eaily hit 14s with a b16a eg

[lithium]

oh? which bolt-ons would they be?
i thought a b16a eg runs 16 flat from factory. show me an exhaust, intake, hell lets throw some cams in, that will take more than an entire second off the quarter mile :confused:

[RR-04-RR]

oh? which bolt-ons would they be?
i thought a b16a eg runs 16 flat from factory. show me an exhaust, intake, hell lets throw some cams in, that will take more than an entire second off the quarter mile :confused:

Just tested and branded items will do the job

i managed to take off more than a sec off my time with just Intake headers and exhaust

the car could run 14sec.. but an unexperience driver could make it go 16sec

[lithium]

Just tested and branded items will do the job

i managed to take off more than a sec off my time with just Intake headers and exhaust

the car could run 14sec.. but an unexperience driver could make it go 16sec

fair enough but this is because you are driving a DC2R? i think the 1.6 in the EG is a completely different case. it's not normal for breathing mods to increase a cars performance like that.

put it this way - a quarter mile of 16 might correspond to a 0-100 time between 8-9 seconds, whereas a quarter mile time in the high 14s means a 0-100 time around high 6's-low 7's. can you imagine an exhaust and intake doing that on a NA 4-banger?

then again i've never tried it! so i'm open to be proven wrong :)

[RR-04-RR]

fair enough but this is because you are driving a DC2R? i think the 1.6 in the EG is a completely different case. it's not normal for breathing mods to increase a cars performance like that.

put it this way - a quarter mile of 16 might correspond to a 0-100 time between 8-9 seconds, whereas a quarter mile time in the high 14s means a 0-100 time around high 6's-low 7's. can you imagine an exhaust and intake doing that on a NA 4-banger?

then again i've never tried it! so i'm open to be proven wrong :)

ninzee (eg b16a) is coming to WSID on the 9th of december so he'll be the one to test it out... first time out he did a 15.8. and i'm sure that is stock.. 9th of december will find out!

[GSi_PSi]

There is people that have hit high 13's with B16A EG's (mind you they would of been built). 14's arent that hard for B16a powered EG.
Yonas did 15 flat with a D series motor in his EG

[markgonzales3]

bumpppp

[Sleepy.]

Snail it ..

[zco]

this sounds about right. no amount of NA bolt-ons will get your 1.6 vtec into the 14s

it's not cheap though, and i don't think a Civic is really about straight line speed. for cheap straight line speed you can't go past a car with a big engine - sell the EG, add $4k, buy a TJ Magna Sports/VR-X (a grandma's car) and you will be running 15 flat straight from the factory. plus you have two extra doors and a boot, and good acceleration can be obtained WITHOUT the 5k clutch drops needed in your average turbo/high rev N/A car :)

obviously you will not be able to turn a corner but you know, can't have everything :wave:

disclaimer yes i own a TJ Magna Sports ;)


oh? which bolt-ons would they be?
i thought a b16a eg runs 16 flat from factory. show me an exhaust, intake, hell lets throw some cams in, that will take more than an entire second off the quarter mile :confused:


fair enough but this is because you are driving a DC2R? i think the 1.6 in the EG is a completely different case. it's not normal for breathing mods to increase a cars performance like that.

put it this way - a quarter mile of 16 might correspond to a 0-100 time between 8-9 seconds, whereas a quarter mile time in the high 14s means a 0-100 time around high 6's-low 7's. can you imagine an exhaust and intake doing that on a NA 4-banger?

then again i've never tried it! so i'm open to be proven wrong :)
you sir, need to attend more Drag day events, theres a heap of ppl that run 14's with a b16a.

i ran a 14.79 with a standard b16a,. the only bolt on i had was an intake.

[lithium]

sorry i think i made a mistake. is the standard Si engine a B series or a D series 1.6?
i think i confused the two. i was trying to say - a standard Civic Si can't get into the 14s with only breathing mods. if the B series engine is the more powerful 1.6 meaning the OP has already done an engine swap, then i imagine it'd be possible to get it into the high 14s
apologies :wave:

i must say though, anyone who thinks bolting on exhaust or intake to a standard EG Si will shave a second off a quarter mile time - is dreaming :)

[RR-04-RR]

sorry i think i made a mistake. is the standard Si engine a B series or a D series 1.6?
i think i confused the two. i was trying to say - a standard Civic Si can't get into the 14s with only breathing mods. if the B series engine is the more powerful 1.6 meaning the OP has already done an engine swap, then i imagine it'd be possible to get it into the high 14s
apologies :wave:

i must say though, anyone who thinks bolting on exhaust or intake to a standard EG Si will shave a second off a quarter mile time - is dreaming :)

the only EG that came with a B series as a (EG6 SiR) which are imports and only a handful of australians own one

[Zilli]

a lot of the "unknown" factor is the driver... a B18c7 in an EG will easily pull a 14.. with minimal mods... Benn has one in his eg and he's dipped into the very high 13's on street tyres...

BUT OP's question was how do you get it into 12's low 13's... as stated, unless you do substantial work to it NA, and strip the shell down comprehensively and run full slicks...

Otherwise you go the forced induction route...



Keep this on topic guys, he's after opinions on how to get a B18c7 in an EG into low 13's and 12's...

[pinoy-boi]

Keep this on topic guys, he's after opinions on how to get a B18c7 in an EG into low 13's and 12's...

lol, the original question was hw 2 get a EG into the 14sec's bt none the less, forced induction ftw :thumbsup:

[Zilli]

Hey guys,

how much would you hav 2 spend to get a b18c7 eg5 in the late 12secs early 13's ??

What mods ?


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[GSi_PSi]

this guy makes a topic a day on each engine, doing what times in his eg,

[mocchi]

this guy makes a topic a day on each engine, doing what times in his eg,

hahah. youre funny.

[markgonzales3]

this guy makes a topic a day on each engine, doing what times in his eg,

lol hahaha i just want to know ! cos i'm not sure what conversion to do lol just need opinions lol

[GSi_PSi]

well what is ur budget and ur goal ie 1/4 Time

[markgonzales3]

< 7k for just conversion including labour .. early 13's or high 12's

[GSi_PSi]

Do a Built B20VTEC should be around that, but dependin how worked would determine how much more it would cost. otherwise do a H22A swap with an LSD Euro R box

[YBOOST]

EG with b18c7 with decent I/H/E and ECU tuned will do 13's on street tyres.