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VT-11-RR
26-11-2009, 04:18 PM
does anyone here use the above temperatures in there HID kit on the car??
12000K is a light purple and 30000K is a depp purple.

http://www.shophidkits.com/colors.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAPhh29PhZs&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEK5yTPk1K8&feature=related

WATAJK
26-11-2009, 04:19 PM
12000k, 30000k
WTF
BLind people ftw much..

bennjamin
26-11-2009, 04:21 PM
Stupid for on road use. The higher temp the less visibilty you will have.
People use such high temps for fog lights etc

I'd personally look at 6k max and even 4300k for a clean pure White

TGZ80Y
26-11-2009, 04:43 PM
i put 8000k on my run around car......fckin bright ass....i ended up tinting my headlight hahahaha....

Mr_will
26-11-2009, 04:43 PM
as above, you are an idiot if you use anything above 6k

SHOGUNOVDDRK
26-11-2009, 04:45 PM
Ray Charles would be able to see them..

aaronng
26-11-2009, 05:13 PM
12000k, 30000k
WTF
BLind people ftw much..

12000K and 30000K is only relating to the colour. Not the brightness. So no, it won't blind people. It would piss the cops off though. :p

Nepolian
26-11-2009, 08:29 PM
12000K and 30000K is only relating to the colour. Not the brightness. So no, it won't blind people. It would piss the cops off though. :p

LOL! 30000k WTF for?? May as well go 60000k...matches the colour of the night :)

I dont think it'd piss the cops off at all, I dare say it'd put a smile on their face if someone were to drive round with 12000k + lights!

EK1.6LCIV
26-11-2009, 09:05 PM
lol, seen them once in Brisbane, one of the worst things to come out of China to date

geeang
26-11-2009, 09:19 PM
lol, seen them once in Brisbane, one of the worst things to come out of China to date

Why would you automatically assume they came out of China?

taccord12
26-11-2009, 09:22 PM
Why would you automatically assume they came out of China?

Because he's racist.

tunacnt
26-11-2009, 09:26 PM
lol went to get a rwc last month and was told that any hid that isn't stock with the car is not legal. imo 6000k is best choice :thumbsup:

geeang
26-11-2009, 09:32 PM
lol went to get a rwc last month and was told that any hid that isn't stock with the car is not legal. imo 6000k is best choice :thumbsup:

That's right, unless a car has been designed with a self levelling system and projectors/headlight washers, as well as having passed the specific Australian Design Rules, then it is illegal and you can be done for them.

Alot of cops overlook HID's if they're a sensible 4300/6000k and not too noticeably blue/bright, so alot of people get away with HID's but you have to remember that it is always possible you'll get that one cop having a really bad day.

Manabir
26-11-2009, 09:33 PM
why is it that some people say that higher kelvin hid are brighter?
and then there is always someone who says "it's a colour scale, it doesnt effect brightness"

it's simple...the kelvin scale (colour) and the lumin scales (brightness) are different, this is true, but one does effect the other to a degree.
different coloured light is brighter than others.
if you look at the 2 graphs for lumin and kelvin they actually have an intersect point, this point is the brightest colour.
this is about 4300k....pure white.
any higher or lower on the kelvin scale will take you away from this point, thus making the light duller.
eg:
3000k (yellow) is duller than 4300k (white)
6000k (blue/white) is duller than 4300k (white)

does this make sense?
compared to halogen globes, hid colour temps like 8000k are still brighter purely on the fact that they are a brighter globe type...but compared to a 4300k or even a 6000k they are not as bright.

with 12000k they would produce shitloads less light than a regular stock halogen globe. 30000k, you may aswell stick your mobile phone out the window and try to drive by the light thrown by that...it would be brighter.

EK1.6LCIV
26-11-2009, 09:44 PM
Why would you automatically assume they came out of China?

lol, sensible companies who manufacture hids don't make anything that high as they know it's stupid and pointless

you know why sportscar companies don't use them in their cars at that level, as it's as useful as tit's on a bull

xclusive_eg8
27-11-2009, 01:02 AM
iv got 6000k and they are very well suited to my driving and headlights....evan though i have stock eg civic reflector headlights they do not blind on coming traffic and are super crisp white

aaronng
27-11-2009, 06:53 AM
iv got 6000k and they are very well suited to my driving and headlights....evan though i have stock eg civic reflector headlights they do not blind on coming traffic and are super crisp white

Have you driven another car with your own car passing you in the opposite direction?

EK1.6LCIV
27-11-2009, 07:27 AM
what a crock of shit, hids are the gayiest thing out unless you have a car that came stock with them

they do blind anything coming and above 4 stories tall at the very least, you're running an unguided beam of very bright light, if I had it my way there'd be tow away defections in place for the use of them, followed with a court appearance and pits inspections. The tonka boys with their 10 spotties on on the highway have nothing on the young blokes with hids in terms of annoyance

tunacnt
27-11-2009, 07:30 AM
agreed. i think that all standard halogen globes see better/further at night and all hids are just for bling. but meh, you can't deny they look good :D

Manabir
27-11-2009, 10:23 AM
agreed. i think that all standard halogen globes see better/further at night and all hids are just for bling. but meh, you can't deny they look good :D

hid in reflectors simply dont distribute the light correctly...they are more for looks. they are brighter (mostly) but the housing isnt designed for them so they dont throw the light out in a properly usable way.
projectors with hid on the other hand are shitloads better than standard halogen.
i have driven my car in country areas (used to live in central vic) with halogen in standard reflectors, hid in standard reflectors and hid in projectors. projectors distribute the light so well that i very rarely used my highbeams. didnt really need to.

in a city/built up area, light distribution doesnt really mean much...its more about the looks (which i love the look of hid) but reflectors are also an issue due to the light distributing incorrectly and causing glare/blinding people.
i have posted these photos before and here they are again...

hid in reflectors: (the light is scattering everywhere...hitting a 3rd story window!)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/Manabir/Dscf3921.jpg

hid in projectors: (nice crisp cutoff...no blinding other motorists potentially causing accidents) [MINE]
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/Manabir/P8180073.jpg

see the difference?

but...this thread is degenerating.
its about the colour.
please, dont go anything over 8000k MAX. over that you are just asking for cops to arserape you and if you ever have to go into rural areas you wont be able to see jack shit.
even that is not the best, but 8000k colour looks so purdy. :P

fyi...i ran 8000k myself for a few months in my projectors and went back to 6000k cause they just didnt produce enough light for my liking.

VT-11-RR
27-11-2009, 10:34 AM
^^ HID doctor lol good work man. Im just sick of the typical 8000K and 6000K. i might test the 12000K for a few days and see how it goes. if i dont like it ill just change the bulb to 8000K.

Manabir
27-11-2009, 10:45 AM
i did lots of reseach on them before i got them over 2 years ago.

oh...and fyi...i am still on my original 2 year old hid kit and it is a $80 (inc shipping) chinese made ebay purchase and its still going strong.
so dont knock chinese hid kits...damn good value in my eyes.

EK1.6LCIV
27-11-2009, 10:45 AM
If you don't get ethier, pulled over or shouted at in the first day or so, I'd be very surprised, be responsible

tunacnt
27-11-2009, 10:47 AM
just a quick query: is the difference between 4300k and 6000k dramatic or very minimal. im running 6000k at the moment and im quite happy with them but if 4300k are 'better' i may think of switching

EK1.6LCIV
27-11-2009, 10:49 AM
why people just don't run legal maximium rating ADR approved halogen bulbs is beyond me, apart from those who own luxo euro styled cars that came stock with HIDs of course

Manabir
27-11-2009, 10:52 AM
just a quick query: is the difference between 4300k and 6000k dramatic or very minimal. im running 6000k at the moment and im quite happy with them but if 4300k are 'better' i may think of switching

it is noticable, but barely.
most factory hid is 4300 and its actually the legal limit for colour.
personally, i am using 6000k cause i feel the slightly blue light looks so much more sexy.
if i was to move back out to the country (very very very highly doubt that will happen) i would switch to 4300k purely for the light factor.
but in metro areas not really an issue.

geeang
27-11-2009, 11:10 AM
heard you the first time...get over it.
you dont like hid...thats fine.
i dont like civics...i dont go on and on about it.
stop going on, and on , and on, and on about it for fcuks sake.

AGREED :thumbsup:

EK1.6LCIV
27-11-2009, 02:55 PM
seriously in Australia we have exceptable standards, this goes for everyone, otherwise get caught, defected, insurances voided, and stick to the bus or train systems...

minhkore
27-11-2009, 03:23 PM
LOL this is way out of control.

Boban
27-11-2009, 03:34 PM
me thinks someone is still not over their ballast blowing :p

Anyhow, i'm running 8k in my projectors without any problems in the eg. I also had 8k in the standard reflector headlights and the light (although bright and sexy) was all over the road, didn't get any trouble from the police, (maybe i was just lucky). I'm tempted to put the old set (h4) in the daily but i'm too lazy....Both kits are Chinese and are still working fine

jks24
27-11-2009, 05:33 PM
what a crock of shit, hids are the gayiest thing out unless you have a car that came stock with them

they do blind anything coming and above 4 stories tall at the very least, you're running an unguided beam of very bright light, if I had it my way there'd be tow away defections in place for the use of them, followed with a court appearance and pits inspections. The tonka boys with their 10 spotties on on the highway have nothing on the young blokes with hids in terms of annoyance

lol remember you did use to have hid's ryan....... :p

OT im running 8000k atm, they look good but will prob go for 6000k next time

Since having the 8000k hid's in ive been through several rbt setups at night time. Cops have never said anything about them, maybe ive been lucky though

taccord12
27-11-2009, 05:46 PM
Life's hectic at 30000k, i'm thinking of putting green ones on my CU2, wonder what colour temp that is

Zilli
27-11-2009, 06:05 PM
guy ffs, keep it clean please... everyone has opinions but stick to the damn topic...

VT-11-RR
27-11-2009, 07:51 PM
^^ dam right.

i guess ill probably be one of the first to test 12000K HID lol

geeang
27-11-2009, 07:58 PM
I've seen what looked like 12k on a jazz on the street, looked completely ridiculous.
The one car with the purple lights stuck out like a sore thumb.