transmission fluid

[rookie_gsi_act]

quick question :

ideally transmission fluid should be replaced every ......... thousand kilometres in a manual dc4 honda.

thankyou guys.

[beeza]

20,000k`s even longer will be fine.When you get more in tune with your car you will notice the difference it makes and want to change it every 20,000k`s,no less though,it`s overkill.

[rookie_gsi_act]

yeap thanks, mine was changed 22 k's ago when i got my car. and gears are getting a little crunchy/feeling it harder to put it into the gears sometimes... im hoping its due to fluid so im going to replace that. thanks.

[aaronng]

Also bleed your clutch line.

[EK1.6LCIV]

20000! lol, they're engineered to last for 40000 with you towing, driving in the snow or sitting in traffic for hours on end.

you're wasting money and time changing it any earlier, I'd rather be driving or being outdoors than servicing my car more than it needs to be

[rookie_gsi_act]

mmm, well i already bought the fluid. what else would explain the lack of smoothness in gear transition? anything simple that i have missed perhaps?

ty.

[EK1.6LCIV]

shot bushings would explain it, check the shifter bushes underneath for play

replaced mine not long ago, they don't see much past 200,000kms they're only rubber from Honda

[beeza]

20,000 ftmfw! 40 is BS!

[90LAN]

it depends on your driving style and driving conditions
you need to replace it more often if you are using the car for more than a-b driving
and being a older car it will make the car feel alot better
you will know when your car will need a change by the feel of the box
if you do it yourself it will cost you next to nothing
plenty of do it your self threads on here
but if your taking it to a workshop to do it
then you are spending too much to do it that often

i do mine every 10k kms

when you rev out to 9k rpm all the time
you want the assurance everything is working the way it should be
and not using burn mtf


easy to check too if it needs changing

[beeza]

^^ Absolutely!

[RtN]

That spoon sports president or something recommends changing the Tranny fluid every time you do your oil.

[rookie_gsi_act]

lol, yeh well im diong it tomorrow morning, yeah i've done it myself once before when i bought my car. it was not too difficult. also i have one more querie: my breaks screech when braking at slow speeds i have already been told on ozhonda that this could be due to slightly warped discs or brake pads needing replacement (and they do not need replacement) annyyway.... when turning moderately hard right (only when turning right) i hear a similar noise. what could be the issue here? ty guys.

[beeza]

With the tranny fluid,after it has drained,pour 1/2 a litre or so through to help wash the old crap stuff out.After you start regualary start changing it,you wont have to do that.

If you have disk brakes all around,just speed up to 60km/h then brake firmly but not to a complete stop,speed up to 60 km/h then repeat this 10 times,this will adjust your brakes.They are self adjusting brakes.

See if that gets rid of the squeal.

[EK1.6LCIV]

well take this as a case study, my car was bought with 130xxxks on it, and at 144xxx it needed the trans fluid changed, it got change then then every 40xxx afterwards and is still in very top form and gets driven very well, I'm personally stating that if you change it more often then 40xxxkms you have too much money and time to waste and should be out doors instead of wasting efforts on an item that has been over engineered so you don't have to bother lol

[90LAN]

well take this as a case study, my car was bought with 130xxxks on it, and at 144xxx it needed the trans fluid changed, it got change then then every 40xxx afterwards and is still in very top form and gets driven very well, I'm personally stating that if you change it more often then 40xxxkms you have too much money and time to waste and should be out doors instead of wasting efforts on an item that has been over engineered so you don't have to bother lol

well you pay some one to do it and it costs you more than what it should for some so easy to do

if i can do my self, i can get at least 5-6 gear box changes to what you pay for one

so i think you have to much money getting some one to do easy basic stuff you can do at home your self

so i guess you dont see how black your fluid is when it gets drained after 40000kms ?
no i didnt think so if you did you would shit your pants

so gear boxes dont blow do they because they are over engineered?

you would be stupid to change a b series box every 40kms if it is driven hard

thats right you have a dseries that only revs to 6500 and has less than a less than 100kw at the engine

guess thas why you have the luxury of doing it every 40k kms

and make sure you servivce your car exactly what the service manual tells you to do too

and disregard the extra comment about servicing it more if you drive more than a-b

especially up mountain runs all the time

i got a mate that owns a race shop, who owns race cars and races them and tells me that i alot of people neglect the gear box fluids

some thing to think about anyway

[EK1.6LCIV]

the vtir has the same service intervals...

[90LAN]

the vtir has the same service intervals...

really but it doesnt have the same engine as yours

[Zilli]

^ What is your point???

who gives a shit what motor it runs etc... if the service schedule says something, then that is what the manufacturer has determined is an appropriate interval within which to service that part... ie. changing fluid in a gearbox...

Remember, we are talking about mass produced motor vehicles designed to get people from A-B... this isn't a specialised one off performance vehicle... an integra is built on the same chassis as a civic ffs, we aint talking about Ferrari's here...

To put i simply, one can maintain their car as they wish, the end result is what you get from it the vehicle or part as a result.

1) If you maintain to the manufacturers specifications then you are putting yourself at the mercy of their parts budget forecasts, and tolerances they have allowed for service costs which affects their sales...

2) If you dont do that, and leave it longer, you are PROBABLY not maintaining your vehicle as best as you could, which leaves you open to failure

3) If you maintain more regularly, you are PROBABLY ensuring a longer service life for your parts, and better performance...

At the end of the day, it is all opinion and uncertainty... there are a lot of "it depends" in the equation...

To OP... if you want a definite answer see your service manual, anything other than that is opinion... i'll do mine every 5-10k kms, but thats between every 12-18 months for me...

[90LAN]

[QUOTE=Zilli;2578631]^ What is your point???

well a d16 reving to 6500
and a b18c reving to 8200

with a big power difference, shift points, stress levels and design types

the strain on the 2 boxes will be different compared to each other

other things to point out

but you get the point now

[Zilli]

nah dude, sorry i dont get the point... yes one revs to x, and the other revs to y... ?

not sure if the service intervals are the same between these two motors as quoted... but the basic principles of maintenance that i outlined (which are totally my opinion) apply regardless...

I would think that the tolerances and level of quality built into each driveline would be at the same tolerances, simply because i would think, that Honda would build the same tolerances into all of their drivelines throughout their manufacturing operation... their principle of quality throughout their operation is singular...

The unknown is how the person driving the car uses the gearbox... i reckon either one of us could cause just as much damage flatshifting and clutchdumping in a D, B, H or K series...

I think what you are saying is that the exact same driver, in the exact same conditions, driving in exactly the same manner, in a D series equipped car, then a B series equipped car will cause more "damage" as a result of stress in the B series driveline characterised by the B series' design... am i right?

This would then also mean that a B series gearbox would have a shorter service life given precisely the same conditions (maintenance, driving style, driving conditions) than a D series...

[90LAN]

any way cost me next to nothing to do mine so i can do it at what interval i like

and takes less than 20mins to do

car feels great when it has a fresh supply of fluids

oem factory intervals are a guyide only not gospel

so what happens when you hit the end of the service manual and it doesnt tell you when to do it next

i bet it would be the end of the world for some people as they dont have a book telling when to do it

but no car is the same even if it has the same parts

so best just to check how your fluids depending on your driving conditions

a book doesnt drive your car you do

[JasonGilholme]

oil ever 5,000, gearbox every 10,000.

Fluid comes out clean and looks ok to use still but with new fluid in the box i actually feel the difference. At the end of the day it gives me piece of mind, and thats what its about.

What ever makes you happy.

[mocchi]

any way cost me next to nothing to do mine so i can do it at what interval i like

and takes less than 20mins to do

car feels great when it has a fresh supply of fluids

oem factory intervals are a guyide only not gospel

so what happens when you hit the end of the service manual and it doesnt tell you when to do it next

i bet it would be the end of the world for some people as they dont have a book telling when to do it

but no car is the same even if it has the same parts

so best just to check how your fluids depending on your driving conditions

a book doesnt drive your car you do

true.

change your gbox oil depending on usage.
daily driving no vtecing imo should be fine 20-40k interval.
track sluts should change before-after track and every 5k interval, or together with you engine oil change. (so said mr.spoon)