Formula 1 2010 Discussion

[tRipitaka]

Michael Schumacher to come out of retirement for Mercedes ?

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing/mercedes-lure-schumacher-back-1841816.html

[jords]

The sport needs Schumi more than ever, with teams reducing budgets or pulling out all together they need his appeal to get people interested in F1 again.

He is a legend, and will probably do well again.

[^^v]

it seems lik every new season theres something to look fwd to...
cant wait to see how button goes vs ham.. how alonso fares in a Ferrari... n the return of schumi (lets hope)...
lookin fwd to it indeed...

[Binny]

Only 84 more sleeps till P1 in bahrain, cant wait.

[1900-hustler]

Going to the Melb GP..

everything is already booked!!

[Datuk]

Go Schumacher!

[Joe kickarse]

Schumacher has signed with Mercedes for 1 year deal

7mil Euro (11.34mil)

[^^v]

Schumacher has signed with Mercedes for 1 year deal

7mil Euro (11.34mil)

was only a matter of time... GOOD SHIT...

[bo279]

what a way to get the hype going for a new season!!!

I reckon hamilton will smash button...

Alonso to also smash massa...

Let's hope schumi does well...he doesn't deserve to come back just to make up the numbers.

[1900-hustler]

got my tickets on my desk!

hope i see some mad action where i am =D

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

man this season has epic changes! lol I guess we'll see who's competitive at first race as I have no idea!
Ferrari comeback?
Merc?
RBR?
Macca?
Renault?

Anyones game atm... but a lot of good drivers vs good teams!

[hooyn]

what technical changes have been done to the cars ?

[^^v]

what technical changes have been done to the cars ?
from the top of my head

- no kers this season..
- no refueling this season so the fuel tanks r much bigger..
- minimum car weight weight has been increased to 620kg (not sure of exact figure)
- Front tires r narrower

[Binny]

apparently ferrari have been really owning at valencia during practise, alonso with fastest time and most laps.

[FDBenni]

Here are some comparisons:
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2010/0/711.html
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2010/0/712.html
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2010/0/713.html

looks like front wheels are smaller, longer wheelbase, heavier

[Shift Performance]

with the new changes and new teams it looks like its going to be a exciting year and anyones game

[Vvvtec]

If anyone wants some, I'm gonna be selling off large chunks of my private F1 collection guys, I have every race from 1978 orso and most qualifying sessions from the early 90's.

[1900-hustler]

got a letter from gp advantage today saying that on wednesday there is a behind the scenes tour for the Aust GP from 3.30 - 7.00pm

only arrive into melb at 6pm..

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[Min988]

got a letter from gp advantage today saying that on wednesday there is a behind the scenes tour for the Aust GP from 3.30 - 7.00pm

only arrive into melb at 6pm..

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I did that last year, your not missing out on much, the line up is huge and the gp advantage isnt really an advantage if everybody has the advantage. All the garages were closed when i walked past, however the C63 safety did a mad take off from the start line.

Bit hot in Melbourne, best to buy a wandering ticket as the stands are quite far from the track. Who else is going to Melbourne this year? and anyone planning to go to the Singapore race? Might see ya there.

[1900-hustler]

I did that last year, your not missing out on much, the line up is huge and the gp advantage isnt really an advantage if everybody has the advantage. All the garages were closed when i walked past, however the C63 safety did a mad take off from the start line.

Bit hot in Melbourne, best to buy a wandering ticket as the stands are quite far from the track. Who else is going to Melbourne this year? and anyone planning to go to the Singapore race? Might see ya there.

lol hahah - damn misleading gp advantage..
im guessing all those who bought grandstand tickets have 'gp advantage' although i could be wrong..

i ended up with a 4 corners ticket and im on the main straight on sunday..
it is hot i remember going back in 2007 - i walked the track after the sunday race and i got toasted.. had the outline of sunnies on my face for a couple months lol

i wish i could go singapore again this year.. if i could do it again id go to the singapore flyer and get the package instead of in the grandstands..

[Binny]

Vettel for pole and Massa, Alonso and Hamilton to follow respectively. Shumi done pretty well for his first qualy.

[FDBenni]

Should be a good race
Rosberg has outpaced Schumi consistently though so not expecting much from Schumi.
Webber did a bad qualy, will be hard for him to reach the podium
Will be interesting to see how the traffic is like, the new teams are as much as 11 seconds off the pace per lap
Force India is surprisingly doing quite well
Button most likely wont be defending his world champion title
Disappointed in kobayashi's performance, but could be the car
Ferrari look very strong this year

[1900-hustler]

hoping for a good race

least the front runners are back at the front again

bring on the season

[bo279]

anyone else found the race boring?

[aaronng]

anyone else found the race boring?

Less overtaking since the cars are heavier and only 1 tyre change in that race which meant less chances to overtake again during pitting time. Oh well........

[1900-hustler]

anyone else found the race boring?


Less overtaking since the cars are heavier and only 1 tyre change in that race which meant less chances to overtake again during pitting time. Oh well........

tbh i fell asleep after the first round of pit stops..
mostly because i was tired but as aaron said above, less overtaking / position changes.

Alot of that did happen in the pitt stops & alot of strategy was involved with fuel levels during quali & re-fueling during races etc..

I understand the removing all that puts more emphasis on the drivers skill and the ability of the mechanics & pitt crew to preform better under pressure and passing on the track as opposed to the overtaking being done in the pitt..

Cant say im totally convinced with all the new rules yet.. but i feel they have shot themselves in the foot

[2ruong]

yeah too many blue collars in my opinion

[act_gooner]

The last few seasons have had far too many rule changes and its killing the sport. Why can't they just leave it as is? The whole not being able to change tyres on race day was pathetic.

[Chr1s]

I think the lack of fuel stops and whole conservation of tyres makes the race a little boring at the start and by the time the fuel becomes a real issue, the gaps are too big to do anything about it!

I agree it was boring once the race settled.

[big tone]

there was more interest watching the back runners as they were going at it.... othere than those guys the rest of the race was very boring..

why they took the fuel stops out for safety reasons i really dont know... the speeds they get upto is dangerous..

all they had to do was enable the car to stay raised till the fuel pourer was removed then drop the car and release it..

maybe even reduce the size of the tank to have more stops too.. the V8s were good to watch..
once the othre teams get upto speed then i recon it will become a good race..

cant wait to watch a wet race then all the cars are equal.. it then becomes the driver..

[aaronng]

why they took the fuel stops out for safety reasons i really dont know... the speeds they get upto is dangerous..


Too many fueling mistakes where the pump failed or the guy who was putting the fuel in did not remove the hose on time. You can't totally remove human error without removing the process itself. So they removed fueling.

Also remember that fueling was introduced in the 90's to encourage overtaking. Before that, there was no refueling.

[big tone]

true true.. i guess the first race was s big shake down for most of the teams.. hopefully things will pick up..

[Zilli]

lol hahah - damn misleading gp advantage..
im guessing all those who bought grandstand tickets have 'gp advantage' although i could be wrong..


Nah, my understanding is that to be GP advantage you have to buy the grandstand seats before December...

Either way, i hope its not too crowded! LOL i shouldve know better

im down the front on the Jones stand

[WATAJK]

Hate all these new rules.
Very much agreed with others in the fact that F1 has got very boring.
I'll still watch it as i do enjoy it but dislike the new rules.

No fuel stops is ****ing ridiculous IMO.
Overtaking due to drivers error and pressure very rarely happens, drivers are training to deal with the pressure of an opponent behind them.

If they standardize engines for everyone, ill never watch F1 again.


On a good note, this years F1 seems to have alot more people buying tickets so hopefully it'll be up on last years sales :)

[tRipitaka]

lewis hamilton got done tonight for fishtailing out of albert park in his c63 lol.
got his car impounded

lulz



FORMER Formula One world champion Lewis Hamilton was caught hoon driving and had his car impounded tonight.

The English McLaren driver did a burnout and a fishtail along Lakeside Drive in front of a Victoria Police divisional van that pulled him over.

Hamilton, who was visibly upset, had his car towed away and impounded and will also receive a fine.

It is understood he told policemen at the scene that he was worried this would dent his reputation.

The Herald Sun understands that he was not taken back the police station for questioning.

The incident happened between 9.30 pm and 10 pm tonight.

In 2007, Hamilton was banned from driving in France after being clocked driving at 123mp/h (around 200km/h).

He was given an on-the-fine and his sports car was impounded by French police.

[WATAJK]

lol watta ****ing dickhead.. Saw that on the heraldsun website...
Everyone writing comments have mixed reactions
"He knows what he was doing, he has full control of the car"
"Ban him from the race"

LOL... Idiots...

[aaronng]

He shouldn't have done it. Not on public roads.

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

man, he is a professional... that is not professional!

although that is funny as! 'captain faggot' get's done by VIC hoon laws... lol btw, where is GreekWarrior these days??

[EGB18CT]

ahaha that's funny, almost made me like him again.. but NO!

[1900-hustler]

Red Bull front row..

Hope Mark gets one up on Seb..
I got a feeling Alonso will jump one or both of the RBR boys though

[FDBenni]

We will see .. vettels pace will always be faster than webbers .. just a matter of if he makes a mistake.
If it rains the race could get interesting .. so I say .. bring on the rain!

[FLICK]

GO WEBBER!. If he doesnt do it this year then he will never do it. He needs to continue to his momemtum from last season. He starts from 2nd but this is the only track where 2nd position enters turn 1 on the inside. So lets hope they all get a clean start leading into turn one. GL Mark

[FDBenni]

I think hes really fired up for this race, the look on Marks face when he went to congratulate Vettel on qualifying was priceless. Just hope he doesn't get to eager on the first turn. I agree with you this year will be the only year for him, Red Bull have made a fantastic car he just needs to deliver.

[WATAJK]

think webber ****ed up pretty bad... but still early..

[WATAJK]

its over for webber now... f*cking hamilton that f*cking dickhead.

[aaronng]

Vettel fcked up!!!!!! No 1st place!

Quite a good amount of overtaking though. Good race. Hope it stays in Melb.

[WATAJK]

Vettel fcked up!!!!!! No 1st place!

Quite a good amount of overtaking though. Good race. Hope it stays in Melb.

agreed..
Shit load of overtaking.. spots always changing lol
hard to keep it.
STAY IN MELBOURNE!

[FLICK]

Awesome race. Webber didn't **** up it's just they had to change vettel Tyree before him keeping webber out for another lap whilst everyone else is lapping 2 secs quicker then he is causing him to drop back in the pack after his tyre change. I say hats off to him for gaining back some positions.

[aaronng]

The end will be interesting.

1) Will Button's tires last until the end?
2) Will Alonso take out Massa?
3) Will Kubica take out Massa?
4) Will Webber overtake Hamilton?
5) Will Hamilton do a burnout in parc fermé and get his F1 car impounded?

[aaronng]

HAHAHAHAHA Webber fcked up BIG TIME!!!!!!

Hamilton will be so pissed off at Webber.

[Chr1s]

lol @ option 5

[WATAJK]

HAHAHAHAHA Webber fcked up BIG TIME!!!!!!

Hamilton will be so pissed off at Webber.

+1
Webber was always going to **** up after having such a bad start

[m0nty ITR]

Webber has this uncanny knack of steadily going backwards after qualifying well. He should start from pitlane next week.

[FDBenni]

Melbourne was totally opposite Bahrain .. so many position changes, imagine how much better it would have been with re-fuelling, another variable to play with! Congrats to Button though gambling with the supersofts, ended up paying off, badluck to Vettel and Webber having the fastest pace out there but reliability and consistency failing them.

[1900-hustler]

Loved the race..

Alot of action and overtaking..

Kobayashi's crash was damn crazy..

I really hope Sydney doesnt win the bid for the F1.. it would be so sh*t lol

Webber made a few mistakes - its a shame he couldnt come out on top..
Heres to hoping in Mark still has a good year

[FDBenni]

Was Kobayashis crash his own mistake or did the front wing fall off again?
Webber will have a decent year, but wont win the world championship I feel.
I still think Vettel is up there to win this year, if redbull sort out his car
Ferrari is up on the points right now but they aren't the fastest out there.

[i_s2_honda]

really good race... but...

Mark Webber....




I AM DISAPPOINT!

[Zilli]

was interesting to see the strategy that goes hand in hand with the new rules now... Button drove a good race following him being the first into the pits to get the slicks on... i was expecting a pit in at about 10 laps to go...alas it wasnt to happen...

good race

[midnightdood]

+1 for Mark Webers post race interview

[DD2]

Melbourne was the most exciting F1 race I’ve seen in ages.

I was sitting on the Brabham stand which is the inside of first corner.

Was on the edge of my seat for the best part of the race.

Still spewing that Button took out Schuey right in front of me :(

He was on the leader’s pace throughout the whole race.

Would have been amongst the 2nd-7th battle for sure.

[1900-hustler]

Malaysian GP today at 5pm

Webber on pole for the race - he & rosberg gambled on inters for Q3 while everyone was on full wets...
Such a weird session with Ferrari and McLaren caught out by the weather change

Hope this year it doesnt get washed out lol

Positions for the race:

1 6 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:51.886 1:48.210 1:49.327 18
2 4 Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:52.560 1:47.417 1:50.673 22
3 5 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:47.632 1:46.828 1:50.789 19
4 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:49.479 1:47.085 1:50.914 21
5 10 Nico Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1:49.664 1:47.346 1:51.001 22
6 11 Robert Kubica Renault 1:46.283 1:46.951 1:51.051 19
7 9 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:50.301 1:48.371 1:51.511 21
8 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 1:52.239 1:48.400 1:51.717 24
9 23 Kamui Kobayashi BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:48.467 1:47.792 1:51.767 21
10 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1:49.922 1:48.238 1:52.254 21
11 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:47.952 1:48.760 15
12 22 Pedro de la Rosa BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:47.153 1:48.771 14
13 16 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:48.945 1:49.207 15
14 17 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:48.655 1:49.464 16
15 19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1:52.875 1:52.270 16
16 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:52.398 1:52.520 13
17 1 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:52.211 No time 3
18 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1:52.884 6
19 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:53.044 8
20 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:53.050 8
21 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:53.283 7
22 20 Karun Chandhok HRT-Cosworth 1:56.299 9
23 21 Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth 1:57.269 9
24 25 Lucas di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1:59.977 4

[i_s2_honda]

the s**t teams are causing traffic...

IMHO they need to bring in the 107% rule again...

[1900-hustler]

watched a replay of the race this morning..

Mark Webber must have been spewing!!
Letting Sebastian in so easily..

Red Bull 1-2 finish.. Vettell deserved it though.. he should be 3 of 3 lol
Rosberg got 3rd place.. I swear hes gay or something hahah

Hamilton did a killer drive.. made up 10 places in 2 laps lol.. but Sutil kept him at bay for the later half of the race
Torro Rosso was driving well also - pulling some mad overtaking moves

Schumi had a failure and so did Alonso (there was quite a few retirements this race actually)

I was hoping for rain! that would have added some excitement.. but alas it was a dry race..
I have to admit i did fast forward the back half of the race cos it got abit boring ..

[FLICK]

Good race. Vettel will be the next world champion. Someone quote me on this one. lol Providing his car is reliable no doubt he will be the next champ. He will be the Youngest F1 World Champion.

[thegame888]

Good race. Vettel will be the next world champion. Someone quote me on this one. lol Providing his car is reliable no doubt he will be the next champ. He will be the Youngest F1 World Champion.

It's happining this year, unless another manufacturer makes a huge advance in development. Vettel can possibly win 80% of the races this year based on current form.

Bloody Mark Webber, always finds a way to lose! I gave up on him at some point last year. Before that I always thought in the right car he could threaten. Was I wrong. I reckon he'll be sacked at eoy unless he takes a massive pay cut. Shame.

[1900-hustler]

Yeah Vettell for next world champ .. If RBR give him a reliable car for the rest of the year he would come out on top..

lol @ Webber always finding a way to lose.. hahaha
He has proven he is a good driver though.. cant take away the fact he won a couple of races last year..
He is a threat but being placed next to one of the best drives in F1 atm (with a longgg career ahead of him) Webber is constantly being out done by hes team mate..

[Cvik_ryda]

dont RBR still have Webber caused he still on contract for 1 more year? i think they just wait for the contract to finish next year then bye bye Webber.

[Zilli]

hopefully not, hopefully he can find his groove... he does have the talent and ability, his issue is consistancy... i watchin him sometimes and i think he becomes too overzealous at times and loses the plot... just needs to find some consistance in his pace...

Vettel is very talented

[hooyn]

love the front wing of the red bull.

[Chr1s]

Andrew is on the money, Vettel is the next Schumacher. Even though I never rated Schumacher, don't start.. it's all politics but I mean record wise.

Webber is gone, his on his last legs, if he doesn't do anything this year, he will never do it. I say this year or next year he will retire on a good note.

Just like Barrichello, he should of given the sport up last year when he did well with Brawn, now he looks like a dick mid-pace in an average Williams.

[thegame888]

love the front wing of the red bull.

Regarding front wings, I found this to be an interesting article http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/04/sepang-special-technical-update/

[Binny]

apparentlly there are rumors going around that kimmi raikonnen may take marks position next ear at red bull, i think all these speculations arose when kimmi started rallying for red bull racing??

[bo279]

yeah the year off was for webbers contract to be over.
But then again, there were strong rumours of him going to Mclaren.

Ferrari should've got rid of Massa instaed of Kimi. Then you'll have 2 teams with world champions as its drivers.

[i_s2_honda]

yeah the year off was for webbers contract to be over.
But then again, there were strong rumours of him going to Mclaren.

Ferrari should've got rid of Massa instaed of Kimi. Then you'll have 2 teams with world champions as its drivers.

I really really doubt McLaren will be going shopping for new drivers anytime soon they got two awesome drivers at the moment... unless Hamilton or Button f**k up big time for the rest of the season... doubt it but...

[trentd]

haha michael shcumacher lol, as if he'd come back. still cant get over it.
i reakon alonso ftw this year!

[bo279]

McLaren was going to sign Kimi before they had signed Button, but i think the problem was Kimi wanted his $20mil+ whereas button was $11mil. I think that's where it fell apart. So this year Kimi gets to go have some fun while still been paid out by Ferrari.

Umm....Schumi is back

[trentd]

kimi must be loving life at the moment

[i_s2_honda]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eYgK1ipC8g

LOLOLOLOLOLOOOLOLOL!!! how the f**k!

[Shift Performance]

Dam ,thats some scary shit

[hooyn]

wooo go vettel. was rooting for the dude before the start of last season.

love the aerodynamics of the red bull.truly a work of art.

[EG5]

Red Bull looking strong , specially Vettel!

[1900-hustler]

yeah man how scary was that for buemi lol

i was eating in a restaurant and just let out a big 'WTF' hhahah

vettell ftw

webber will be lucky for 2nd place - i reckon alonso will jump him

[FLICK]

I picked vettel for champion this year. He wants it bad. Not only being world champ but also the youngest world
champ in history. Two massive titles to his name. He's young and he will
be the next schumacher.

[1900-hustler]

mclaren was damn strong in the race..

no denying they got the straight line speed - making cars look like they were going backwards lol

button fcukt everyone up though - webber lost 5 positions after he compressed the field haha

[FDBenni]

Have to say, intermittent rain always makes the race much more interesting from a viewers point of view, but for once it would have been better with a dry race today. Webber jumped Vettel while Alonso was given a jump start penalty so Webber would have been leading, not only that Webber would have had first priority in the pits and a good chance to win.

[Stig]

LOLOLOLOLOLOOOLOLOL!!! how the f**k!

since your link was down :)

i love it how he was counter steering n stuff LOL


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eessn_iqR-8&feature=related

[Min988]

I laughed so hard watching this, looks planned

[Binny]

WTF, that crash was wierd, has torro rosso realeased an explanation of what happened?

[1900-hustler]

F1 Catalunya

Schumi was puttin in some solid times in practice 1 & 2..

cant wait till quali

RBR & McClaren both strong too

[1900-hustler]

webber!

[FDBenni]

its funny how the red bulls are the slowest in the speed traps yet post times 1 second faster than the rest of the field

[thegame888]

I'm going to go out on a limb and call this - Schumi is back!!! Now he just needs some further improvements to the Merc to start challenging. Seems like the longer wheelbase they introduced this weekend is working for him and his "throw it into corner" style. About time too.

[i_s2_honda]

webber!

watch him f**k it up again... :D

[FLICK]

watch him f**k it up again... :D

Go webber!!! Clean start!!!

[1900-hustler]

Hamilton lololol

[1900-hustler]

Webber Webber Webber

[hooyn]

lol. GLHFGGRM hamilton.

[aaronng]

Hamilton shouldn't buy Lotto tomorrow.

[Zilli]

Bad luck hamilton.. good to see Webber finally pull it off... amazing how his best time during the race way surpased his best qualifying time...

It seem the new rules this season will favour the driver/car combo that is reliable and in for... once you get away at the start, if you can remain consistant the race is yours...

[thegame888]

Big ups to Webber! If he could only do that more often, we'd have an Aussie world champ.

[i_s2_honda]

GG to hamilton...

whats this s**t i heard from the commentators last night that kubica could be moving to ferrari next year... whats wrong with Massa...

[FLICK]

How good was Q3 in Monaco? Go fkn webber woohoo!!!!

[FDBenni]

Webber must be loving it right now, he should win it
It should be a good race with lots of pile ups!

[FLICK]

Webber rumoured to move to Ferrari!!!!! Geez

[FLICK]

Ninja move by schumi ftw!!!

Best race of the season. Webber ****en deserves it so much. Awesome indeed!! Looking forward to the next round

[thegame888]

Ninja move by schumi ftw!!!

Yes Lol!!!

Webber takes the championship lead and a shedload of confidence. Looks like a new driver now, quick aaand consistent!

Vettel looked a lil rattled in the driver interviews.

[Zilli]

vettel loked rattled i agree... they pumped a lot of their efforts (red bull) into the young fella, because they felt that Webber was too old... so i think age and experience (or lack thereof) is showing...

whilst im over the moon for webber, lets wait and see how he does in the next round... where it is a bit easier to overtake!

[Alexx]

sucks to be a williams mechanic over the next two weeks

[FLICK]

Hahaha, Williams and mclaren! What about all the noobs causing carnage lol

[FDBenni]

Yeh Vettel is definately rattled.. 4 safety cars but Webber was still able to pull away easily on all occasions. Shumi apparently got a penalty for overtaking Alonso on the last corner after the safety car came in

[FLICK]

20 sec pen, brings him back to 12th

[i_s2_honda]

impressive drive from alonso...

he was the only dude who made the race actually interesting... starting from pits all the way to 6th... that takes a fair effort... especially at Monaco

[thegame888]

Don't agree with penalty on Schu. Old rival Damon Hill was race steward...suss! They should seriously appeal that decision. The rules are kinda grey.

I'm wrapped for Webber. He's become HOT PROPERTY! Similar to Nigel Mansell who blossomed at age 33.

[aaronng]

Don't agree with penalty on Schu. Old rival Damon Hill was race steward...suss! They should seriously appeal that decision. The rules are kinda grey.

I agree that it is pretty dodgy since they are using rule 40.13 which states - "If the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pit-lane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking."

It seems the drivers got the message that the safety car was coming in on that final lap before the end of the lap and not that the race would finish under safety car.

[1900-hustler]

Yeah i thought Schumi should have got that

it was fair and he passed after alonso after the line..

[bo279]

whats the point of the safety car coming in if that rule applies. He might as well have brought the cars home.

I dont think anyone knew of the rule. When the safety car went in, they all went for it, otherwise why would alonso have gone wide if he wasnt pushing it. The commentators didnt know it, they thought it was legit.

[FLICK]

Webber!!!!!!!! What a sik kient!!!!! Webber for world champ!!!

[FDBenni]

YES webber on pole, Vettel having a sook once a again. Webber needs to have a really good start though, Webber's starts have been quite poor, and with Hamilton next to him in a faster car it's not going to be easy. If Webber stays in front by the 1st corner I'd say he wins it if he doesnt make any mistakes or the car is reliable.

[FLICK]

Vettel and hamilton can launch. Thats why when webber in on pole i get really nervous. Luckily its not too long of a straight. He'd be fkd in bahrain. lol

[thegame888]

YES webber on pole, Vettel having a sook once a again. Webber needs to have a really good start though, Webber's starts have been quite poor, and with Hamilton next to him in a faster car it's not going to be easy. If Webber stays in front by the 1st corner I'd say he wins it if he doesnt make any mistakes or the car is reliable.



Vettel and hamilton can launch. Thats why when webber in on pole i get really nervous. Luckily its not too long of a straight. He'd be fkd in bahrain. lol

Definitely agree. Webber is shit from the line. Whoever gets to the first corner first should win the race. Let's hope Webber has been practicing his starts then, hey.

Vettel is now even more rattled than before. It was funny looking at him after qualy and in the press conference. Seems he can't believe someone is actually quicker than him.

[aaronng]

Hahhahahaha.... everyone is going to hate Vettel now.

[FLICK]

Lol at press conference.

[aaronng]

Well, I can understand that at that point, Webber would be wanting to rip Vettel a new one. hahaha

[stormridah]

hahah hes improved
listen what he said last time .... its near the end of the vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiJYXj6AXkM

[FDBenni]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwh9pu-NBps

What is wrong with vettel, ruining webber and red bulls race

[thegame888]

Vettel is a fn diiiick............head!

There is an unwritten rule, Vettel broke it. In the end he deserved not to finish. But it should have been a Red Bull 1-2.
Hopefully he will learn from it and mature.

What I took away from the race though; McLaren will be the team to beat next race out and for the championship I believe.
Unless Red Bull have some great new developments up their sleeve. If you remember last year, McLaren developed their car
better than anyone else in the second half of the season.

[1900-hustler]

Couldnt believe what happened last night..

Vettel had plenty of room and there was so much of the straight to go i duno why they dint keep going.
Vettell probably would have got Webber at the end as he had the speed and Mark would have yielded at the end of the straight cos Vettell had the inside line
But farout that was pretty ordinary

Hopefully it doesnt rattle the team for too long

The reaction from Adrian Nuey and Christian Horner was priceless LOL

McLaren definately the team to beat for Canada

[bo279]

When Vettel wins he's Mr nice guy.
Now things aren't going his way, he's acting like a spolt brat.

Well done to Webber for keeping his cool. I would've loss it.

[i_s2_honda]

there is bad blood between the Vettel and Webber you can tell it... every before the race... probably ever since Webber started winning... Red Bull is trying to proclaim everything is la di da but by wisking Vettel off to the team caravan thing

s**t like that can spell the end of a championship... it was early on in the race anyway... chances are the Mclarens would have probably overtook Webber and Vettel because of the F Duct... still Vettel could have got some points on the board to help the constructors championship...

i don't even know why people are getting p!ssed off Webber still leads the championship... if he and the team were smart enough they would take it into their stride, get their stupid F Duct working and work as a team...

[1900-hustler]

There was always something suss going on over at RBR
Vettell was always the number 1 driver - and it was easier to hide when Vetell was winning last season
But not Mark's ontop you can see the frustration on SB's face..

MW now leads and the team would be foolish to risk another incident like that again..
It is early in the season but as long as MW is consistent and keeps maintaining the lead over SB then the team will have to back the lead driver whether they like it or not (i.e. Christian Horner & Helmut Marko)

[FLICK]

Maybe an Aussie is not suppose to win like the socceroos against Italy incident...

[i_s2_honda]

Maybe an Aussie is not suppose to win like the socceroos against Italy incident...

theres been 2 that have already won it... Sir Jack Brabham (3 Time World Champion) and Alan Jones...

proof that it is possible for a guy from Oz to win...

[i_s2_honda]

replay of the whole incident... it's Russian but anyway....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqwx7w6i1HQ

they say Webber didn't turn his steering wheel but Vettel didn't as well...

my guess is that Webber was in Vettels blindspot, Vettel thought he passed and went in for the kill IMO just a sad racing incident...

[FDBenni]

It was 100% vettels fault, whats pissing everyone off is that RBR and Vettel have not admitted fault and is actually putting it on webber. In their eyes Vettel is RBR number 1 driver and I think Vettel is just pissed that Webber is beating him in championship points.

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

That was a really good Canadian GP! Alonso didn't look very happy lol I guess he thinks he should have been in first place... It looks like the competition might be a lot closer to the Bulls these days!

[aaronng]

I was surprised that the Red Bulls munched up the tyres so quickly and also how slow webber was after the change to the same medium tyre compound just before he got overtaken by Hamilton.

[Binny]

FDBenni, what you have to understand is that RBR told Webber that if the race was to continue with VET second, that HAM would overtake him before the end of the race. Now Vettel went for the pass thinking that Webber was letting him through to keep the RBR 1-2 but even when Vettel passed Webber didn't yield, this is the problem. So the problem is that Vettel thought Webber yielded and wanted to get into racing line for the up and coming turn! from an unbiased point of view it was Vettels fault but Webber could have and probably should have yielded.

[FLICK]

Farken webber!!! He should learn how to launch! 2nd to 9th position.

[aaronng]

Farken webber!!! He should learn how to launch! 2nd to 9th position.

He kept getting caught on the wrong side of the line when the McLarens overtook him. You can see in the replay that once he got on the wrong side of the track, everyone else had the racing line and overtook him easily.

Good thing that Webber walked from that accident. Could have gone very wrong.

[Shift Performance]

Go Webber -Red Bull Gives you Wings

[aaronng]

Go Webber -Red Bull Gives you Wings

He enjoys flying, even before his F1 days.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0t5juiDfr8

[1900-hustler]

Go Webber - suck sh*t red bull

id like to see what they do now that Webber is ahead of Vettell


oh and suck sh*t Vettell - hahahah

[EG5]

Webber FTW!

[aaronng]

Great drive from Webber! I thought Hamilton was going to be all over his rear, but Webber managed to prove me wrong and pull away, even after the safety car! He really deserved this win.

[FLICK]

Not bad for being number 2.

[Shift Performance]

dam red bulls no one can catch em -
good luck to Webber he deserves it after so many years of bad luck-

[ovidox]

Unfortunately the McLaren's will take it out this year; gallanet effort by vetell/webber...watch them tumble slowly not next year but the year following; coz too much money spend on r&d and wrong time to do it with GFC. Ferrari back with a vengance 2nd half od the year. 2011 will be clean sweep of EVERYTHING. :-)

[FLICK]

Unfortunately the McLaren's will take it out this year; gallanet effort by vetell/webber...watch them tumble slowly not next year but the year following; coz too much money spend on r&d and wrong time to do it with GFC. Ferrari back with a vengance 2nd half od the year. 2011 will be clean sweep of EVERYTHING. :-)

Stupid prediction. How did you pull that out of your arse. Who even said vettel and webber Will evenl be driving for red bull In 2 years? Ferrari come back 2nd hAlf of the year? How did you come up with that? What facts do you have to back that up with?

Yes mclaren might take it out this year but I wouldn't slag of redbull. They have top qualify this season 6 times out of 9 times. Hardly a team that is tumbling down. The only team I can see tumbling down is Ferrari.

With all due respect there's no information to support such a prediction you just made. How can you predict 2 years ahead? Lol

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

German GP starting grid

1 VETTEL Red Bull
2 ALONSO Ferrari
3 MASSA Ferrari
4 WEBBER Red Bull
5 BUTTON McLaren
6 HAMILTON McLaren
7 KUBICA Renault
8 BARRICHELLO Williams
9 ROSBERG Mercedes
10 HULKENBERG Williams
11 SCHUMACHER Mercedes
12 KOBAYASHI Sauber
13 PETROV Renault
14 DE LA ROSA Sauber
15 ALGUERSUARI Toro Rosso
16 BUEMI Toro Rosso
17 TRULLI Lotus
18 KOVALAINEN Lotus
19 SUTIL Force India*
20 SENNA HRT
21 LIUZZI Force India
22 YAMAMOTO HRT
23 DI GRASSI Virgin
24 GLOCK Virgin

Ferrari have def. caught up to the Bulls. Vettel yanked pole by just 0.002 from Alonso... I can't even comprehend that sorta time frame/distance! The Fezza's have had decent race pace last few races as well, just not much luck!

I don't think you can predict titles at this point... the point system makes it easier to make up for a poor weekend OR a good weekend. But if I had an opinion as to who should take the constructors crown, RedBull hands down... Drivers? doesn't matter, let them battle with skill and consistency!

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

FERRARI.... WOW! Biggest dirt team ever.... :thumbsdown:

[1900-hustler]

I can't say I'm that surprised with what happened

I was hoping that massa would take it out but yet again the team intervenes

So disappointed in f1 right now

[ovidox]

Ok if German grand prix proved my prediction so far is stupid maybe the Hungarian GP will help prove my point; and at the end of the season we shall see how much arse i pulled out and next year (not 2 years) you will log back in after FI RA RI has won drivers and constructors and you will look like the arse. p.s. its a business/team sport; button/hamilton thing would've been the same and red bulls kinda prove they were doing the same thing with the front wing preference.

[FLICK]

Fark me!!!! What a fkn race!!!!!

[1900-hustler]

Exciting race overall - plenty of action. Very happy i stayed up to watch this one

Awsome drive by Webber..
Pulled out lap after lap to give himself the buffer to remain in the lead after his pit stop..

LOL @ Vettell - sucker hahah

And wtf @ Schumi .. hes not doing any favours for his reputation..

[i_s2_honda]

anybody know whether the Mercedes GP got their asses handed to them because of that shit that happened in the pits to Rosberg and Schumacher???

as good of a drive that was from Webber and he did deserve it, he was also EXTREMELY lucky that Alonso didn't have the pace to keep up with Red Bull...

[Shift Performance]

Red bulls will unfortunately suffer on the high speed circuits -Monza

[1900-hustler]

anybody know whether the Mercedes GP got their asses handed to them because of that shit that happened in the pits to Rosberg and Schumacher???

as good of a drive that was from Webber and he did deserve it, he was also EXTREMELY lucky that Alonso didn't have the pace to keep up with Red Bull...


Mercedes GP got a $50,000 fine for the Rosberg incident and Renault got the same for the Kubica one

Schumi got a 10 grid penalty for the next round at spa

[big tone]

everyone keeps saying that red bull will fall for a while now. but yet they still end up at the front of the grid and they still end up on the podium..... short slow and or fast.... as webber said in one of the pre talks they are runnin alot more downforce on there cars as they are sacrificing speed for better cornering..... vettels last lap was fastest lap for the race... by 1.2 over alonso fastest..

once they get sorted with the f ducked i think they will have a great chance on the faster tracks..

either way, no matter how it turns out at the end of season i think it has been by far one of the best seasons ive watched in over 10 years.... hands down....

im only hoping the new teams stay in and can improve to make things even more competitive next year....

[Oxer]

either way, no matter how it turns out at the end of season i think it has been by far one of the best seasons ive watched in over 10 years.... hands down....

im only hoping the new teams stay in and can improve to make things even more competitive next year....

Reckon? I think this season has been whack.. Theres what, 5 teams that are competitive, everyone else (All the fresh teams) are just getting in the way imo. Fair enough for the first few races they are getting their feet, but hell, I wouldnt have thought it would take them the whole season to become closer to the front runners and be competitive.. Then again this is probably the first season where almost half the grid is new teams.. I dunno.

[aaronng]

Reckon? I think this season has been whack.. Theres what, 5 teams that are competitive, everyone else (All the fresh teams) are just getting in the way imo. Fair enough for the first few races they are getting their feet, but hell, I wouldnt have thought it would take them the whole season to become closer to the front runners and be competitive.. Then again this is probably the first season where almost half the grid is new teams.. I dunno.

The other slow teams are 2nd tier. They are not expected to be competitive against the 1st tier teams.

[Oxer]

I just dont enjoy watching two groups racing at the same time... bring back the days when all teams were competitive lol...

[1900-hustler]

Pretty eventful race

Vettell is seriously bad at overtaking lol

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

way too aggressive that kid... I think the commentators and Christian Horner are correct in saying this part of the season is just about collecting as many points as possible.

[i_s2_honda]

who gives a hoot... makes the racing more exciting... at least Vettel tries overtaking rather than piss farting behind somebody for the whole race...

Ayrton Senna would have been nothing without d**k moves as well...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko94oniszuA&feature=related

[Oxer]

Was kinda shattered Hamilton didnt get beached... Webber deff isn't an agressive driver, He tends to find a position and stick to it, only when an open opportunity arises does he gain positions. Vettel on the otherhand tries way too hard to "make" the opportunities. But atleast he took out Button LOL

[Shift Performance]

I totally agree with i_s2_honda and Oxer

[Mugen_B16B]

you are no longer a racing driver if u dont go for a gap, u race to win

i absolutely love that line

[8700s14]

Sheesh I hope Webber can hold on the the drivers championship

[FLICK]

Alonso is a big big threat! But in saying that he has no more engines left where as webber still has 1 left. So I'm sure we will see a 10 grid penalty for Ferrari in the next round or 2 or the extra engine.

[Shift Performance]

BEWARE the prancing Horse is back-
Andrew- Ferrari's don't blow up ;)

[FDBenni]

i want him to win before he retires but i have a feeling his going to lose it in the next 4 races, Alonso seems to be on fire and could easily steal it from him

[FLICK]

BEWARE the prancing Horse is back-
Andrew- Ferrari's don't blow up ;)

Obviously you didn't see what happen Massa in Q1.

[Shift Performance]

Q1 is for the boys there playing games ,Race day is for the men and where it really matters

[1900-hustler]

was a good race by Webber - particularly since he didnt qualify well..

hopefully he gets his chassis under control and starts to put down more competitive times..

Suzuka 'should' be an RBR win but you just never know..
Id love to see Mark take out the WDC but he needs to keep that buffer in the points or better yet extend his lead..
I still think RBR should put their eggs with MW and get the team behind him - hes got a race win points lead on SV.
If SV was ontop i know they would have backed him all the way - just cant see why they cant do the same for MW.

Alonso has really stepped up his game and right now hes the favourite imo (dual world champ - used to the pressure etc etc)

Hamilton has been real unlucky (some say stpuid) but i think his car isnt up to scratch with the RBR or Ferrari.. although they are bringing an upgrade to Japan.

Easily the most exciting F1 season in a while

[hooyn]

what a great race.

I just love watching Kobayashi race, 5 overtakes at the hairpin !

Hopefully he'll be a real contender next year with the billionaire sponsor for sauber or with a better team.

[1900-hustler]

So heading into Brazil this weekend..

I somewhat feel abit empty inside - as Alonso takes an 11 point lead over Webber it makes you wonder what would have happened if those 7 points got docked for the 'Ferrari team orders' incident.
It would be a great shame if Alonson won with 7 points or less and I'm sure the F1 community will see it the same way.
Sure we can argue that everytime has team orders but for it to be so controversial would leave a bad taste imo.

Anyway I think he is in the box seat for the WDC - and as much as I would like Webber to win (long time fan) I think Alonso has the skill and the car to do it and RBR will collect constructors
Alonso will be on the podium for both races pending some reliability issue or someone launching into him (Vettell maybe lol)

As long as Vettell doesnt win tbh LOL - I'll be satisfied with the 2010 season.

[hooyn]

i wonder if,

vettel is coming first.
mark webber second.
and alonso moves up to top 5 somewhere
at this point vettel is out of the WDC
it would then be up to him to decide whether alonso or webber takes the WDC
would he do it without team orders?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[1900-hustler]

all i know is it will be a cracker of a race!

i really hope mark can wrap up the WDC.. but wont be unhappy of Alonso does

RBR wont issue team orders as the owner specifically said that the team will not favour one or the other
But Horner and Adrian Newey have both said that no team orders will be issued however a decision will be made by the drivers on their own if they find themselves out of WDC contention.. i.e. SV to yield for MW for the race win.. or SV to crash into alonso LOL jk

[i_s2_honda]

its sunday and I got bored...

http://i52.tinypic.com/1zp1evs.jpg

[1900-hustler]

gutted...

absolutely gutted...

lol @ alonso after the race.. what a douche

ah well onto the 2011 season - where I will be supporting MW again, but not the RBR team for reasons such as team management, dynamic etc..
Unfortunately MW will offically be the #2 driver and i can see that impacting on him next year..

Mercedes GP and Nico Rosberg for 2011 WDC - hahahah