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JazzMi
30-12-2009, 11:24 PM
OK, I'm not sure this is available in OZ as this is straight from the Mugen site from Japan.

http://www.mugen-power.com/automobile/products/odyssey/parts/02.html

I did some preliminary pricing based on the YEN prices on the Mugen Site:


Front Under Spoiler 55,650 Yen ~ Au$685
Side Spoilers 66,150 Yen ~ Au$815
Rear Under Spoiler 73,500 Yen ~ AU$905

Or Styling set for above 195,300 Yen ~ AU$2398

Front Sports Grill 60,900 Yen ~ AU$748
Front bumper Garnish 21,000 Yen ~ AU$258
Wing Spoiler 63,000 Yen ~ AU$774
Ventilated Visor 21,000 Yen ~ Au$258

18×7 1/2 J +55MIRROR FACE Aluminum NR Wheels 45,150 Yen Each ~ AU$555
Wheel nut and locks Set 7,875 Yen ~Au$97.00

Sport Suspension -20mm 105,000 Yen ~ Au$1290


If you did all of the above, it would cost $8044, and that's just for Parts ! :eek:

Saying that, are these parts available in OZ ? from Whom ?

Atjo
31-12-2009, 12:39 PM
You can ask some traders (JDM Concept, JDM Yard, etc) here to get mugen stuff. I found a mugen sport exhaust for my RB1 really cheap brand new less than $1000 but one of the pipe is more than 2m long so need to ship it using container.

JazzMi
31-12-2009, 07:53 PM
You can ask some traders (JDM Concept, JDM Yard, etc) here to get mugen stuff. I found a mugen sport exhaust for my RB1 really cheap brand new less than $1000 but one of the pipe is more than 2m long so need to ship it using container.

Thanks Dan, may email them of certain parts.

Ok, now, I'm pretty new(Virgin !:p) to mods, so which one should you do first and anyone know a good installer in Perth, WA ?

1. Suspension - what does it mean by 20mm ?
2. wheels - 18 ? I still like a comfortable ride and can go over bumps without scrapping the bottom !
3. side spoiler

So, for the rear spoiler, do you need the exhaust system also use the existing ??

JazzMi
31-12-2009, 10:56 PM
Thanks Dan, may email them of certain parts.

Ok, now, I'm pretty new(Virgin !:p) to mods, so which one should you do first and anyone know a good installer in Perth, WA ?

1. Suspension - what does it mean by 20mm ?
2. wheels - 18 ? I still like a comfortable ride and can go over bumps without scrapping the bottom !
3. side spoiler

So, for the rear spoiler, do you need the exhaust system also use the existing ??

ps. Can I just get 18" wheels without changing anything (ie. suspension) ?

Atjo
01-01-2010, 02:39 AM
For me, I will at least change the suspension to coilover. I found that the stock rear spring is too soft. At the moment if I have >5 people in the car, the rear become too low and if I go over a dip/hump I can feel the springs at the very bottom. Use 18" if you want to be legal.

evolution
01-01-2010, 11:56 AM
Thanks Dan, may email them of certain parts.

Ok, now, I'm pretty new(Virgin !:p) to mods, so which one should you do first and anyone know a good installer in Perth, WA ?

1. Suspension - what does it mean by 20mm ?
2. wheels - 18 ? I still like a comfortable ride and can go over bumps without scrapping the bottom !
3. side spoiler

So, for the rear spoiler, do you need the exhaust system also use the existing ??

Just my 2 cents based on modifying my RB1.

I got my Modulo body kit from the dealers and they fitted it, but anything else I usually get my mechanic in Jandakot to fit it, coilovers, camber kits, BBK etc. He's not flash, but gets the job done. I think if it is genuine kits, installation will not be much problems and they usually come painted already.

Can't help with sourcing parts in Perth cos I gave up looking years ago and just shipped everything from overseas myself. The shops here do not know much about the Odyssey and I don't think care to because not many ppl mod it anyway.

In terms of your questions.

1. It means lowering the car by 2cm which is not much, but Mugen kits ( and some other body kits) help with the lowered look by 'removing ground clearance'.

2. Rim size does not affect ride height (unless you use the wrong tire profile). Going larger rims without changing rolling diameter means using lower profile tires which translates to less air and rubber to insulate the ride, this will affect ride quality slightly and noise depending on tyres you choose

3. Side spoiler is the side skirts

You can change to 18's without lowering, but you run the risk of the car looking like a 4WD as the wheel arch gap being more promimant.

JazzMi
01-01-2010, 03:31 PM
Thanks Dan & Evolution for your feedback.

If I lower, are there any particular brand of suspension is better than another? (Price vs Quailty issue) .. don't mind paying a bit more for a better quaility suspension.

I don't mind the softer ride, since it is a family car.... :)

evolution
01-01-2010, 06:27 PM
I think almost all aftermarket coilovers are harder with increased spring rates, because usually when you get coils, you will lower it and if it is too soft, the car will bottom out very easily.

I'm pretty sure Cusco does one, not sure about the others. Other brands that may have might be Tein, HKS, Tanabe, JIC magic, Ohlins, GAB and RSR. They do coils for the RB1, they may do it for the RB3.

As for recommendations... tough one for the RB3, don't know anyone that has changed coilovers, so can't comment. You'd be the first one!

evolution
01-01-2010, 07:34 PM
Hope this helps, Suspension for your RB3:

Cusco Zero Wagon Coilover (http://www.cusco.co.jp/en/whats_new/2009Jan_Vol3_ZeroWE_Odyssey.pdf)

Tein - Super Wagon (http://www.tein.co.jp/search/search1.cgi?act=DETAIL&item=SWG&sel_make=HONDA&sel_model=%E3%82%AA%E3%83%87%E3%83%83%E3%82%BB%E3% 82%A4&sel_code=RB3&grade_s=&sel_year=H20.10-), S Tech Springs (http://www.tein.co.jp/search/search1.cgi?act=DETAIL&item=STECH&sel_make=HONDA&sel_model=%E3%82%AA%E3%83%87%E3%83%83%E3%82%BB%E3% 82%A4&sel_code=RB3&grade_s=&sel_year=H20.10-)

Tanabe - Sustec Pro 5 Coilover (http://rd-tanabe.com/item_search/syosai_sus_kit.php?select_id=368566), Sustec NF Pro Kit coilover (http://rd-tanabe.com/item_search/syosai_sus_kit.php?select_id=368534), Sustec NF 210 Springs (http://rd-tanabe.com/item_search/syosai_sus_nomal.php?select_id=368065), Sustec DF 210 Springs (http://rd-tanabe.com/item_search/syosai_sus_nomal.php?select_id=368066)

HKS - Hipermax S Style (http://www.hks-power.co.jp/db/sus_detail.aspx?N_ID=433&F_ID=10582&CN=80120-AH007), Hipermax C-Wagon+ (http://www.hks-power.co.jp/db/sus_detail.aspx?N_ID=433&F_ID=10493&CN=80130-AH006_10493), Hipermax Smart (http://www.hks-power.co.jp/db/sus_detail.aspx?N_ID=433&F_ID=10647&CN=80200-AH006)

JIC Magic - Can't find any for RB3

Ohlins - Can't find any for RB3

GAB - E Style (http://www.gab.jp/img/e_style/GKS7627.pdf)

RSR - Suspension listing (http://www.rs-r.co.jp/script/itemsearch/index.html?オデッセイ&RB3&suspension)

JazzMi
01-01-2010, 10:08 PM
Thanks Evolution, looks like some research for me to do !

Oh, are adjustable coilovers legal ?

evolution
01-01-2010, 10:21 PM
I think it is but there are certain rules that govern how low you can go. Generally the lowest point on your car must be 100mm above ground

JazzMi
15-01-2010, 06:54 PM
Hi, after much consideration about where I should spend my money first :o.
I've decided on upgrading my audio system and putting in a SATNAV double din system with a reversing camera and a rooftop dvd screen.

Eclipse AVN7262EA with proprietry reverse camera
Rosen G8 8" LCD dropdown

The Rosen was a nice-to-have but the deal was too good, so I took it. ! :)

Will install next week, will update with pics.:D

Atjo
15-01-2010, 08:12 PM
Nice choice. Regarding bodykit, for me I will get wheels first then bodykit. It will look strange if you have bodykit with standard wheels except for OEM bodykit.

JazzMi
15-01-2010, 10:07 PM
That's sounds like a good plan :D

Next 18" x 7.5 Wheels...maybe one of these Advanti Wheels:

http://www.tyrepitstop.com.au/_data/docs/wheels/advanti-wheels-bliss.jpg http://www.tyrepitstop.com.au/_data/docs/wheels/advanti-wheels-flint.jpg http://www.tyrepitstop.com.au/_data/docs/wheels/advanti-wheels-adr-10.jpg

Atjo
15-01-2010, 10:18 PM
If you wanna get replica like advanti I can get you a better one from indo, almost 100% like the original.

evolution
15-01-2010, 10:43 PM
Nice choice of rims.

Hey Dan mind sending some pics my way as well? If the designs and price is right I might change rims as well

JazzMi
15-01-2010, 11:07 PM
If you wanna get replica like advanti I can get you a better one from indo, almost 100% like the original.

Any pics/price Dan ? :)

Atjo
16-01-2010, 01:09 AM
I will get the pictures tomorrow.

PT GT
24-01-2010, 08:55 PM
Atjo - any pics / prices yet?

Atjo
24-01-2010, 11:33 PM
Here you go, sorry for the delay. If you have any rims in mind, let me know so i can see if i can find a replica of that rims. Too many rims to list.

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8341/02012009189.jpg

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2817/p5240550.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3813/p5240546.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/7055/img00649200911231539.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9010/img00644200911231537.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8871/img00643200911231536.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1482/img00642200911231536.jpg

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4954/autocouturelativeinox7j.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9608/403751e133.jpg

PT GT
25-01-2010, 08:14 AM
Awesome thanks - just got busted ny the wife checking out rims for her car - she's not happy!!!

AusAccord
25-01-2010, 01:52 PM
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8341/02012009189.jpg


still my favorite onto my RB1...... any 18x7.5 offset +42....

Atjo
25-01-2010, 06:54 PM
Andy, 18x7.5 is not common, why not 18x8 +42/45?

evolution
26-01-2010, 12:45 AM
These 3 replica Weds sport rims must be one of the most common rims in Singapore at the moment... every other car seems to on them



http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9010/img00644200911231537.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8871/img00643200911231536.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1482/img00642200911231536.jpg

JazzMi
26-01-2010, 12:53 AM
check out this Noblesse RB3 with Cusco Vacanza Zero Wagon Coilovers with Weds MAVERICK 010S

http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/minkara/photo/000/001/503/056/1503056/p4.jpg

http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/minkara/photo/000/001/503/056/1503056/p6.jpg

http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/minkara/photo/000/001/503/056/1503056/p5.jpg

Wheels:

http://www.wheelwarehouse.com/images/Product/medium/3598.jpg



More pics here:
http://minkara.carview.co.jp/userid/459118/car/406906/1503056/photo.aspx

evolution
26-01-2010, 03:06 AM
Looks like a standard factory aero kit with a noblesse front grille. Still looks nice though. Come on JazzMi you know you want to get some rims, a body kit and coilovers.... Do it :p

Just don't tell the wife that we support your mods on this forum or she will ban you from coming here again.

AusAccord
26-01-2010, 08:58 AM
Andy, 18x7.5 is not common, why not 18x8 +42/45?

Hey Dan, as my RB1 is home boss daily and doesn't want any insurance issues

AusAccord
26-01-2010, 09:00 AM
...Just don't tell the wife that we support your mods on this forum or she will ban you from coming here again.

don't get addicted in mod mate :p and remember to keep yr log-in name secret :zip:

Atjo
26-01-2010, 09:48 AM
Hey Dan, as my RB1 is home boss daily and doesn't want any insurance issues
As i remember the police who defected me told me that you can have 2" bigger & 2" wider (or not going out of the body). 18x8 +42/45 should be fine. I'll take picture of the purple odyssey because he's using rep meister 18x8 front but 18x9 rear.

AusAccord
26-01-2010, 12:11 PM
As i remember the police who defected me told me that you can have 2" bigger & 2" wider (or not going out of the body). 18x8 +42/45 should be fine. I'll take picture of the purple odyssey because he's using rep meister 18x8 front but 18x9 rear.

may be different states have different laws.... NSW can only allow 2" larger in diameter & 1" wider than stock. so insurance companies follow the same regulations.

JazzMi
26-01-2010, 10:16 PM
Looks like a standard factory aero kit with a noblesse front grille. Still looks nice though. Come on JazzMi you know you want to get some rims, a body kit and coilovers.... Do it :p

Just don't tell the wife that we support your mods on this forum or she will ban you from coming here again.

Haha..This is what I do when I'm really interested and I can't get it immediately ! ...Give me time mate ! ;)


ps. oppss..Just got caught looking at wheels by my wife !!...she NOT happy :thumbdwn:

Atjo
31-01-2010, 10:32 PM
Andy, you sure you don't want the work meister replica? They won't notice the width since the rims don't stick out from the body of the car.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3665/img0556u.jpg

AusAccord
01-02-2010, 11:29 AM
garhhhhhh :mad:, Mugen_Retro's RB1?

Atjo
01-02-2010, 12:12 PM
Yup :)

evolution
01-02-2010, 09:00 PM
Talk about temptation....

2k1cvc
05-02-2010, 08:03 PM
If your thinking spending 8g for RB3 parts.. Perhaps consider this kit...

Vlusty Jewel - "will need some translating though on site"
http://gooparts.com/shop/s4201542/p4201542D30091125014.html