header with stock exhaust

[gravias]

I'm just looking to improve power without making noise and am considering installing header.I've just ordered a j's intake however I don't want to change the exhaust as I don't want noise. Have you guys just installed headers to your stock exhaust and if so which ones did you use and did they help? my car is an ek4 (b16a2)... thanks

[saikou27]

I'm just looking to improve power without making noise and am considering installing header.I've just ordered a j's intake however I don't want to change the exhaust as I don't want noise. Have you guys just installed headers to your stock exhaust and if so which ones did you use and did they help? my car is an ek4 (b16a2)... thanks

many aftermarket headers will bolt up directly to a stock muffler and catback. there will be gains but not as much as a full exhaust system. my advice would be to order something like xforce headers. there are a few performane mufflers u can buy if u want it quiet such as the twinloop muffler which will allow u to run a full exhaust system with decent gains and still stay quiet

[dougie_504]

If you don't want noise why are you getting a J's intake? Assuming you mean the whale-penis style? That's loud isn't it?

I agree with saikou27. There's not really any point in having after market headers unless you do a full front-to-back exhaust setup. Once the exhaust flows through your headers it will just get restricted again at the cat and cat-back.

You could get a 2.25'' setup maybe? They're not too loud, especially if you're not thrashing around everywhere :)

[gravias]

j's is loud but with over 40% open throttle.. i dont want loud exhaust coz i have problem with the police in my county.. i am thinking for itr jdm 4-1 header 2.5'' or dc sports 4-1 2.5'' header..can i inastall these headers to my stock exhaust system??? you have anything else to suggest?? for exhaust i am thinking about apexi ws but later...thanks

[egSi]

I agree, stock exhausts save heaps of hassle. :thumbsup:

If you purchase a header with a 2.5" collector it will NOT bolt on. You will have to have a 2.5" flange welded to your OEM catback. It can be done at an exhaust shop.

The noise coming from an intake is nothing like the noise from an obnoxious exhaust. A lightened flywheel would do more for your car than a catback IMO.

I had a aftermarket header on my B16 with OEM exhaust, still was pretty quiet.

You could get a header with a 2.5" collector, install a 2.5" high flow cat and just have the cat adapted to suit your OEM catback. It would yield the most gain while still retaining the OEM quiet exhaust.

Hope that helps :)

[gravias]

thank you very much m8!!!!

[beeza]

Great advice Trav!!

Rep Him! :)

[dougie_504]

True, but I still don't think there's any point unless you're doing cat-back too.

What's the legal max decibels you can make? Surely you could get a 2.25'' system that would be driveable, no?

And if you want to stay under 40% throttle mostly and are driving around the suburbs where cops will pick on you for exhaust noise then you should probably stick to 4-2-1 headers as they give better mid-range power and general driveability whereas 4-1 headers are more for top-end power ---> in which case you would also want a cat-back to optimise that top-end gain.

[90LAN]

just get a oem ek9 exhaust
its stainless and is close to 2.25"

that will be good enough for what you want it handles 135kw to your little 118kw

if you want it to rev a bit better, i would get the jdm 4-1 you mention with either a jdm 2.5" cat

everything can bolt up

or you could get ek9/96 itr headers/98 spec itr 4-1 headers , jdm 2.5 cat , ek9/jdm dc2r b pipe and use your existing ek4 muffler

all this can be fitted at home with some basic tools

[STTICH]

since we're on the header/exhaust topic, a question for the wise.

apart from exhaust noise, to my underwstanding aftermarket headers will also increase noice level is that right? ie, keeping everything standard, but changing to an aftermarket headers noise will still increase?

[90LAN]

since we're on the header/exhaust topic, a question for the wise.

apart from exhaust noise, to my underwstanding aftermarket headers will also increase noice level is that right? ie, keeping everything standard, but changing to an aftermarket headers noise will still increase?

not by much mainly on vtec
and only a tinny sound

nothing to worry about

[egSi]

not by much mainly on vtec
and only a tinny sound

nothing to worry about


What Lan said Kev. I had my Edelbrock 4-2-1 on my B16 with only an EG4 pee shooter cat back. Still hella quiet but at high revs it was noticably louder, it sounded sorta tinny. I like it though lol, I miss those days :zip:

Get a nice header for your Del Sol ;)

[STTICH]

thanks 90LAN.

and Trav, it has a no brand aftermarket header with stock everthing else atm. so im considering stock it all out. have got an audm dc2r header lying around. but i presume some might say there's no point chucking on the dc2r's?

any negetives about a b18 header on b16?

[egSi]

Word. Ditch the crap one and rock the DC2R one man. You may have to mod your OEM cat with a bigger 2.5" flange. Im pretty sure the AUDM DC2R header collector is 2.5", i could be wrong though. If its only 2.25" it should bolt on. Maybe someone can verify?

Gains or losses would be minimal either way I think. With the DC2R header at least you could rock the OEM heat sheild if thats what you want :)

[90LAN]

aussie dc2r headers are shit the collector is only like 2inch

throw it away theres a thread on this already

get a good set of jdm/usdm 421 with 2.5 inch collector

[gravias]

i am thinking for rmf norrow header replica 2.5' for my b16a...do you have any experience from this header?? any suggestion??

[dougie_504]

Too big IMO. B16A doesn't really have much torque and I think 2.5" would only make it lose some of what it has down low.

2.25" for B16A if naturally aspirated

[90LAN]

Too big IMO. B16A doesn't really have much torque and I think 2.5" would only make it lose some of what it has down low.

2.25" for B16A if naturally aspirated

will all know it doesnt have torque
you dont drive vtecs in that rev range

if you use a good 421 header and not some thing cheap

you will be surprise how it feels

he is actually talking about the header not the cat back

[dougie_504]

Fair enough that he was talking about the header and not the cat, but I don't need your points on torque and headers.

I use RS*R 4-2-1 headers on my EF8 and Holley 4-2-1 headers on my EH9 so I know that it can feel nice with a non-egay brand.

If you read my previous post you'd see that I was recommending that he use 4-2-1 header as opposed to 4-1 headers because he'll be driving around the suburbs and therefore won't be sticking to VTEC all day, will he?

But if you're going to be doing daily driving then you may as well have 2.25" 4-2-1 headers to retain as much low-end power as possible, otherwise you'll just be slugging around in peak hour.

2.25 are just as easy to source as 2.5 so why wouldn't you make it a consistent size throughout the whole system?

[90LAN]

Fair enough that he was talking about the header and not the cat, but I don't need your points on torque and headers.

I use RS*R 4-2-1 headers on my EF8 and Holley 4-2-1 headers on my EH9 so I know that it can feel nice with a non-egay brand.

If you read my previous post you'd see that I was recommending that he use 4-2-1 header as opposed to 4-1 headers because he'll be driving around the suburbs and therefore won't be sticking to VTEC all day, will he?

But if you're going to be doing daily driving then you may as well have 2.25" 4-2-1 headers to retain as much low-end power as possible, otherwise you'll just be slugging around in peak hour.

2.25 are just as easy to source as 2.5 so why wouldn't you make it a consistent size throughout the whole system?


because the oem jdm 2.5 inch is a bolt on application for most jdm exhaust so no need for any modification
the header area is where you make the power having a 2.25 inch cat is too small in my books
so no need for any modification
i notice you dont lose nay low down torque with the right setup
or you must have a good butt dyno
try a 2.5 inch cat you will be surprised

[SiReal]

I put JDM 4-1, and JDM DC2R cat onto my stock audm ITR catback, modified to fit. All restrictions were cut off and widest diameter piping were welded in place of the restrictions.

I noticed improvements basically through the rev range. VTEC was louder.

Now i've had it for a while, it feels like normal again. Look at my thread in the Integra section (search by my name) and u'll see the diff in audm dc2r headers VS jdm dc2r headers.

[CB7_OWNER]

Will a JDM 2.5inch cat bolt up to the OEM catback on a EK4 in australia? Or in my case an EM1?

[SiReal]

Will a JDM 2.5inch cat bolt up to the OEM catback on a EK4 in australia? Or in my case an EM1?

I am leaning towards negative. The JDM cat is too short compared to the aussie cat. also the flanges look the same, but the bolts/holes dont line up.

I faced this problem on my dc2r.

NICE LINK: :)
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124325

P.S. congrats on the move from cb7 to em1. cb7s are great cruisers but the need for manual and a bit of speed comes after a while of auto drone.

[90LAN]

jap stuff wont bolt up to any aussie stuff

only thing is the axle backs if its the correct car because they are all the same size

[EK1.6LCIV]

http://www.team-integra.net/images/BAEC1978-D3A7-4405-AB2D-2761DC15A96D/articles/surferx/apipes.jpg

[02gzm]

Have you considered a full 2.25" system with a decent sized mid muffler and a twinloop finishing muffler? Would be much less restrictive than a peeshooter stock system, sound heaps better up high (not tinny) but still be very very quiet when you want it to be.

[90LAN]

http://www.team-integra.net/images/BAEC1978-D3A7-4405-AB2D-2761DC15A96D/articles/surferx/apipes.jpg

all shit anyway still because its american

[90LAN]

Have you considered a full 2.25" system with a decent sized mid muffler and a twinloop finishing muffler? Would be much less restrictive than a peeshooter stock system, sound heaps better up high (not tinny) but still be very very quiet when you want it to be.

cheap twinloop muffler would be alot shitter than alot of oem honda type r stuff

[SiReal]

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x229/JeffSiReal/OH%20Forsale/mini-IMG_2981.jpg

we have the one similar to b18c5.

[EK1.6LCIV]

American setups clear road hazards... lol

Japs dont have road hazards or bumps of the like of here, another point worth considering dated Jap Headers from the ITR

or weld/attach a plate under them like the Yanks have done, like a bash gaurd for bmxs lol

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4246379985_f7ba5a5553_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4246379975_0e5c54a681_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4062/4246379973_ed06570b03_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2786/4246379971_835810fee1_o.jpg

[90LAN]

whats that got to do with the flow ? lol

all roads have hazards if you didnt know
you be in denial if you didnt think so


"American setups clear road hazards... lol"
its the height of the car that determines rd clearance not headers

americans lower their cars to stupid heights thats why they need that

[EK1.6LCIV]

whats that got to do with the flow ? lol

all roads have hazards if you didnt know
you be in denial if you didnt think so


"American setups clear road hazards... lol"
its the height of the car that determines rd clearance not headers

americans lower their cars to stupid heights thats why they need that

there was a good reason the jdm headers werent sold here to begin with on the ITR, the warranty claims on low hanging design on stock would be shocking for most of the cbd roads here

good headers though for a track car

[90LAN]

there was a good reason the jdm headers werent sold here to begin with on the ITR, the warranty claims on low hanging design on stock would be shocking for most of the cbd roads here

good headers though for a track car


at stock itr height they are not too low

it had to do with emissions,noise, and fuel ron with the tuning
and plus honda australia always gives us the shit stuff

so all low cars sports cars with not much clearance are warranty claims
especially the exotics

your reasoning is very logical

[EK1.6LCIV]

at stock itr height they are not too low

it had to do with emissions,noise, and fuel ron with the tuning
and plus honda australia always gives us the shit stuff

so all low cars sports cars with not much clearance are warranty claims
especially the exotics

your reasoning is very logical

jdm itrs are too low for aus height, they are lower than 100mm to the ground

no exotic is here that isnt 100mm, do you want me to walk down the road with a tape meaure and meaure the v12's rear muffler to ground clearance in the valley lambo dealership? take a pic perhaps lol?

exotics clear speed bumps here, have you ever been near a F430, can go thro Sunnybank and not hit a damn bump front of rear under the car

[SiReal]

geee such exciting conversation. i've never seen such a plate used before. interesting. I just reused all the factory heatshields, which are double layered metal sheeting so quite strong.

[02gzm]

cheap twinloop muffler would be alot shitter than alot of oem honda type r stuff

Was using it as an example. My point was, it's still quite possible to have a quiet exhaust and decent flow out of using a properly set up aftermarket exhaust system, compared to a stock EK4 catback.

[EK1.6LCIV]

Was using it as an example. My point was, it's still quite possible to have a quiet exhaust and decent flow out of using a properly set up aftermarket exhaust system, compared to a stock EK4 catback.

x2 :thumbsup:

[Killa From Manila]

jdm itrs are too low for aus height, they are lower than 100mm to the ground

no exotic is here that isnt 100mm, do you want me to walk down the road with a tape meaure and meaure the v12's rear muffler to ground clearance in the valley lambo dealership? take a pic perhaps lol?

exotics clear speed bumps here, have you ever been near a F430, can go thro Sunnybank and not hit a damn bump front of rear under the car

so a stock itr with jdm header will scrape driving through sunnybank? lmao

my car is tyre tucking and barely scrapes through there

[EK1.6LCIV]

so a stock itr with jdm header will scrape driving through sunnybank? lmao

my car is tyre tucking and barely scrapes through there

barely counts as scraping, point made, I call bs on driving wheel tucked thro there

stock leaving queensplaza itd bash like a mofo, only used sunnybank as an example as most cant relate to further destinations

OP just aim for a system that lines up with the sump being the lowest point of contact and try your best not to mod the height of the stock cat as on the EK chassis it's the point of failure in normal road use (shopping centres, new home driveways in tightly built estates, etc etc)

[Killa From Manila]

okay queens plaza underground carpark?? i think i scrape on 2 downhill bumps entering. and yes my tyres r tucked

[90LAN]

jdm itrs are too low for aus height, they are lower than 100mm to the ground

no exotic is here that isnt 100mm, do you want me to walk down the road with a tape meaure and meaure the v12's rear muffler to ground clearance in the valley lambo dealership? take a pic perhaps lol?

exotics clear speed bumps here, have you ever been near a F430, can go thro Sunnybank and not hit a damn bump front of rear under the car


they are the same height as aussie itrs
get your facts right and stop confusing people with your bullshit
why would you walk down there when you can go into your treasure trove of car pics that you dream about all the time

you hit speed bumps because you sussy is soft and shit that why

who cares any way were talking about oem exhaust here
so why dont you have fun with your pro $350 mild steel press bent exhaust
and stop talking about something you dont have a clue about

[hisoka]

suspension stiffness does have big part in it

[EK1.6LCIV]

lol, relax Lan, JDM yo lol

someone needs a holiday perhaps lol

[90LAN]

lol, relax Lan, JDM yo lol

someone needs a holiday perhaps lol

some needs to stop talking crap that he doesnt know about
ebay yo
im on holiday s

you need to go to work

to pay for some jdm parts


will post up some pics of my jdm itr 421, 2.5 cat , jdm itr b pipe , and eg6 muffler for you to see gravias

[EK1.6LCIV]

lol, bs, youre always on here whilst Im ethier os, interstate or out enjoying the fking scenery and fresh air lol

Im just after people buying what they need and not some wank factor jdm shit that they dont need and then be all bothered about driving their cars in public, lol

you dont seem to like anyones opinion now adays lol, geez man

[geeang]

lol, bs, youre always on here whilst Im ethier os, interstate or out enjoying the fking scenery and fresh air lol

Im just after people buying what they need and not some wank factor jdm shit that they dont need and then be all bothered about driving their cars in public, lol

you dont seem to like anyones opinion now adays lol, geez man

It's not that he dislikes people's opinions, Lan just dishes out when someone is wrong or they don't know what they're talking about.

[90LAN]

lol, bs, youre always on here whilst Im ethier os, interstate or out enjoying the fking scenery and fresh air lol

Im just after people buying what they need and not some wank factor jdm shit that they dont need and then be all bothered about driving their cars in public, lol

you dont seem to like anyones opinion now adays lol, geez man

yeah because your always off with the fairys
yeah your the one that goes to every single meet and car wash
what you justify what life you have ill done all before mate
so i guess thats called having a life
and the only mates you have are people at the car washes
yeah right your another closet jdm buyer but wont admint it
you opinion is based on the internet info you aquire
not real life exprience

all you do is take your car to shop get conned by the salesman and pay him money for a piece of shit exhaust

and then thinks its good beacuse it makes a nice fart sound and its from a pro exhaust shop

[EK1.6LCIV]

lol, youre not on holidays, lol

relax man, no one gives a shit

[90LAN]

lol, youre not on holidays, lol

relax man, no one gives a shit


you wish you were on holidays like me
working on my yellow car not getting someone to pay for doing work on it when you can do it your self

enjoy work tmr
relax mate get a bseries

d series power

any pics of your pro exhaust shop made exhaust ?
to show everyonw how good it is that you carry on about

[mr180sx]

LOL! Ryan is back and is getting owned again! hahahaha

BTW hows that $350 fart cannon going!:thumbsup:

[EK1.6LCIV]

its an exhaust, its nothing to get all worked up about lol

my goodness lol

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[beeza]

Rofll

[EK1.6LCIV]

tell me about it Brett

[90LAN]

its an exhaust, its nothing to get all worked up about lol

my goodness lol

lol
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lol etc etc etc

you seem to talk it up alot please share with the op what a nice exhaust it is

worried every one will laugh at it ?

we want the real pics too not one of those millions of pics you have saved on your computer

[beeza]

LOLZ'ers

:)

[EK1.6LCIV]

you seem to talk it up alot please share with the op what a nice exhaust it is

worried every one will laugh at it ?

we want the real pics too not one of those millions of pics you have saved on your computer

you mean a bargain, a leak free system, that is custom made for a fraction of the cost, that is made to profit people and keep jobs in this country rather sending it overseas for parts that are illegal for oz road use, I know what I would rather smartass :)

will take some pics when its on the hoist for clarity, with you in the pic to for authentication :) lol

relax and go put put or outside mate, get some air

[90LAN]

you mean a bargain, a leak free system, that is custom made for a fraction of the cost, that is made to profit people and keep jobs in this country rather sending it overseas for parts that are illegal for oz road use, I know what I would rather smartass :)

will take some pics when its on the hoist for clarity, with you in the pic to for authentication :) lol

relax and go put put or outside mate, get some air


yeah they are making a profit of you

20 piece of mild steel and 20 exhaust and some labour

they still make 300 plus of you and you think yours is legal hahah

what they do stick a db machine and emmissions test machine there after they finish making it

yeah right still delusional again
once again you believe the sales pitch they sold you
why didnt you just go to honda to get a oem exhuast like evrything else you got done there

relax tissues are a good way to wipe your eyes

oh by the way they seem to know you well down at south side as the annoying american

[EK1.6LCIV]

mate this isnt asia, shit costs real money here lol

havent been disappointed yet with shops Ive been to

all parties are happy, money well spent

and you were making a point or making me coffee lol

white with two thanks, cheers lol

[90LAN]

mate this isnt asia, shit costs real money here lol

havent been disappointed yet with shops Ive been to

all parties are happy, money well spent

and you were making a point or making me coffee lol

white with two thanks, cheers lol


yeah right you had the biggest bitch about a workshop working on your car
another tissue moment or you can remember ?

you wanna think its asia because you were crying about the rent cost here
shit real money here if you want to live here
i heard in the states has cheap accomodation in the ghettos

anyway have a nice drive by your self in the mountains with that nice exhaust of yours

[EK1.6LCIV]

lol

you seem to be upset

what is the matter? lol

shit next time I see ya Im giving you some merlo coffee :)

come to the mountains with us sometime up north, youd like it alot :)

[90LAN]

lol

you seem to be upset

what is the matter? lol

shit next time I see ya Im giving you some merlo coffee :)

yeah ill be upset all the time if i had a car like yours
sure
and ill take you car respray it and put in a bseries you have been wanting for years


or even a k if your nice to me

and even put a decent exhaust on there for you

at a fraction of what you have spent at honda getting your work done

keep on typing ryan show how much of a idiot you are and how clueless you are about cars

[EK1.6LCIV]

mate atm Im happy with it, have been for sometime

hence Ive slowed off on working on it and focused on reconditioning old exterior bits


cars are a hobby and meant for people to take enjoyment in it, why take it sooo seriously

lol

[90LAN]

mate atm Im happy with it, have been for sometime

hence Ive slowed off on working on it and focused on recondition old exterior bits


cars are a hobby and meant for people to take enjoyment in it, why take it sooo seriously

lol

will you get some custom mild steel press bent headers when you get a b series that WHEN if ever ?

if it s a hobby why take to honda to get work done on it
dont you enjoy your hobby enough to work on it your self
why so serious ? taking it to professional workshops?

[EK1.6LCIV]

I cant do my own wheel alignments is why I took it there today (they were the cheapest in town too, good value at 60 I figure) :) and the labour was cheaper (60 a side for the work) than buying one off tools I didnt need for a job that comes up every 10yrs

I do take pride in seeing some of Australia's best work on my car knowing its done right when I havent the time to do it myself, I think that's fair enough

when my engine dies (or needs work that justifies buying the long block I require) I will put the headers I got made for down the coast on it :) s/s 4-1 design so ya know when you see them :) I will geta press bent cat back system as it will do its job like this one has for 6yrs running now without a fault to speak of :)

[90LAN]

I cant do my own wheel alignments is why I took it there today (they were the cheapest in town too, good value at 60 I figure) :) and the labour was cheaper (60 a side for the work) than buying one off tools I didnt need for a job that comes up every 10yrs

I do take pride in seeing some of Australia's best work on my car knowing its done right when I havent the time to do it myself, I think that's fair enough

when my engine dies (or needs work that justifies buying the long block I require) I will put the headers I got made for down the coast on it :) s/s 4-1 design so ya know when you see them :) I will geta press bent cat back system as it will do its job like this one has for 6yrs running now without a fault to speak of :)


your engine wont die its been looked after by the best in the business in australia at a cost lol
any way where's those pics of your exhaust
you posted them up ages ago ?

back up what you claim

[EK1.6LCIV]

I only posted up the rear not even from the cat back, will make a thread for it when shes visible in one clear shot :)

[90LAN]

I only posted up the rear not even from the cat back, will make a thread for it when shes visible in one clear shot :)


love to see that then
i know what sound it makes but cant picture what a shit exhaust looks like

[EK1.6LCIV]

omg, its value mate :)

legal, clean welds, no leaks, its nice man, maybe not jdm but its nice :)

anywho Happy New Year :)

[90LAN]

omg, its value mate :)

legal, clean welds, no leaks, its nice man, maybe not jdm but its nice :)

anywho Happy New Year :)

its cheapdm press bent, mild steel, fart cannon ,
and the best thing all parties are happy
money was exchanged and shop owner was grinning from ear to ear
saying sucker .......
another one bites the dust
but hey its a business and your the customer
customer is always right

[lil_foy]

Sorry Ryan but you're a ****ing idiot if you think a jdm itr has a lowest point lower then 100mm.

I an jdm itr suspension in my car and it was atleast 150+mm from the ground.

Honda has obviously toned down cars for exporting another good example is the jdm dc5r.
We never got brembos, stiffer suspension, etc.

Now I try to be semi-civil with you but really, you're just dribbing shit now.

[EK1.6LCIV]

dont hate on the business man, my exhaust guys have done fine by me

and with the hourly labour included with materials and people on staff with over 10yrs expirence its a good value combination

why do you hate on the shops soo much lol?

what you pay 350, so thats made up of profit % needed to run the shop/bills, etc, material, time(labour), its a pretty ok deal, beats doing it yourself and buying a pipe bender, welding machine, safety gear, material at per metre prices, training, etc etc

[90LAN]

dont hate on the business man, my exhaust guys have done fine by me

and with the hourly labour included with materials and people on staff with over 10yrs expirence its a good value combination

why do you hate on the shops soo much lol?

because every custom cheap job is just a waste of time
doesnt do anything for the car

just a money spinner for them
i bet if you dynoed your car back to back with the stock exhaust
you would say i just wasted my time and money
but still would love to see this exhaust
with its nice welds

[EK1.6LCIV]

I dynoed it and it did get minimal gain, as expected from a very finely engineered motor from Honda

there are alot of shops out there that do present some very nice work locally, I found one that does a good job and has been since before the Civic series was even around and have been in the same addy with the same family running the show

[mr180sx]

Ryan! LOL

You keep me entertained!;):thumbsup:

[90LAN]

I dynoed it and it did get minimal gain, as expected from a very finely engineered motor from Honda

there are alot of shops out there that do present some very nice work locally, I found one that does a good job and has been since before the Civic series was even around and have been in the same addy with the same family running the show

was it the same shop that built the hi powered fiat race car you brought to the dyno day that made 56kw atw's

or is it a special workshop in your mind you always go on about

or i have a mate of mate and
i know a guy of a guy type of workshop ?

[EK1.6LCIV]

omg, it wasnt 101 (worst dyno owners in QLD hands down, hadnt been touched since new lol) lol, dont insult the Fiat, its a fine historic race car, show a lil respect :)

it was on my side of town in Geebung where it was dynoed first 6yrs ago they hired the dyno from a private business out of Yatala for the day, I tagged along with a rotary day :)

why the attitude, lol

I'm off to hit some golf balls at the range, see ya around Lan :)

[90LAN]

omg, it wasnt 101 (worst dyno owners in QLD hands down, hadnt been touched since new lol) lol, dont insult the Fiat, its a fine historic race car, show a lil respect :)

it was on my side of town in Geebung where it was dynoed first 6yrs ago they hired the dyno from a private business out of Yatala for the day, I tagged along with a rotary day :)

why the attitude, lol

I'm off to hit some golf balls at the range, see ya around Lan :)

what exhaust did that fiat have same as yours ?
we all know you like to hit balls

have fun blowing off some steam

[hisoka]

omg, it wasnt 101 (worst dyno owners in QLD hands down, hadnt been touched since new lol)

um what ? dyno had problems that day.

hasnt happened since ill have you know.

[Limbo]

i had the JDM 4-1s, in by ek4 they sat just 1-2cm below the sump.

If you run the stock lower heat shield it will protect against any bumps in the road.

They were the best fitting header i could get and worth the bang for buck. I'd still be running those headers if i didn't have a boosted car.

[Scott.QQ]

Go JDM 4-2-1. Best option, even if it will mean a minimal gain with stock exhaust.

[Mugen_B16B]

omg, it wasnt 101 (worst dyno owners in QLD hands down, hadnt been touched since new lol) lol, dont insult the Fiat, its a fine historic race car, show a lil respect :)

it was on my side of town in Geebung where it was dynoed first 6yrs ago they hired the dyno from a private business out of Yatala for the day, I tagged along with a rotary day :)

why the attitude, lol

I'm off to hit some golf balls at the range, see ya around Lan :)
is ur exhaust a fully sick 5 inch one?? i swear it must be super duper kool, lan man u cant win against ryan, hes knows everything

[illchay]

im buying 4-2-1 axleback headers for my ek4 on the stock exhaust is there much gain can u feeel a diffence ?