Commom problems with EG's

[southy]

Hi all. I currently own a suzuki swift GTi, and i am loking around for civics, due to the availabilty in aftermarket parts and more suits what im looking for..

Just couple of questions i want to know about EG civics.
What are common problems? (gearbox, overheating etc.)
What models have "Vtec" and do any of the have DOHC?


This is really the only thing i want to know about them before i starting going to look at some.

Cheers
Southy

[im.Kusuma]

fuel pump,
master brake..

thats from my experiences from having an EG twice.. lol

[kairi_k]

vti's have vtec. the gl model is a 1.3L carby and gli is a 1.5L fuel injected no vtec though.

[southy]

Thanks for that guys..
Are the VTi's a DOHC motor or just a SOHC?

[kcokla]

based on your post and in particular - decision about aftermarket, my gut feeling says if ur going to get an eg, ull be doing an engine swap sooner or later.
if this is so! just make sure u get an efi! (si/gli/vti)
other than that, the engines are all abit piss weak!

[eg5civic]

Recently i blew my clutch line in between my gearbox and the metal line on the wheel well
My Master Clutch cylinder went a month after but we're talking about a 17 year old car (18 next month :D)

Basically just general maintenance things. Dont forget they are an old car so things will be getting old, ie- master clutch cylinders, shocks, bushes, fuel pump,

My EG had 270xxx kms on the chassis when i bought it and the d16a8 blew at around 310xxxks, as my rear main seal was leaking and it spun a bearing.

No EG came with vtec in Australia, only the eg6 did which was a jap spec model
But how many egs are swapped already and can be had at a decent price so check the for sale forums

EDIT- Oh yeah they did come with VTEC but they are sohc shitters, i'd say try get a twin cam non vtec efi car like mine ie a 92 si

[im.Kusuma]

vti's have vtec. the gl model is a 1.3L carby and gli is a 1.5L fuel injected no vtec though.
EG GL is a 1.5 dual carb,
EG BREEZE is 1.3L single carb.

Say no to carby southy..

[southy]

Ahk. yea i know all about older cars:o having owned a VL commonwhore:thumbdwn: and now own a GTi with farked shocks, and maintenance will not be a problem.
If i do purchase an EG i will be staying N/A becasue you cant beat the sound of ITB's (except a screamer)
Another question the Vti's come with the B16?
And with the engine swap what would be the best motor to do so? I heard about k20 swaps but i do not know what honda these came out of?

Cheers for the help guys.

[d15z1SUX]

yeh master cylinder, cv joints are usual problems

[southy]

EG GL is a 1.5 dual carb,
EG BREEZE is 1.3L single carb.

Say no to carby southy..

Lol i will. the only place a carby should be is atop of a 6/71 blower (even then id rather a 4banger)

[kairi_k]

nope the vti still has a d-series engine

[southy]

nope the vti still has a d-series engine

oh ok. Now it makes sence why people swap to the b18..Are the b series motors stronger?

If you havent gathered already im full of questions.;)

[tsg88]

Not much love for the D engine here, but I have a 96 CXi.. and i'm finding it quite a nippy little car to drive. Never struggles, even on hill climbs. The Air-Con works fine too, most 4cyl cars I have driven hate the Air-Con.

But if you are after a performance engine, then yes you want DOHC with some VTEC. Usual process is to engine swap... however I can't justify the effort for a daily car...

My car goes better than my sisters Twin Cam Nissan and my mums old Twin Cam Hyundai Excel... :honda: Honda put a lot of effort into balancing the engine power with the weight of the vehicle.

[rice_spirit]

oh ok. Now it makes sence why people swap to the b18..Are the b series motors stronger?

If you havent gathered already im full of questions.;)

yes b series are stronger.

b16 is one of the cheaper alternatives from civics

H22 is from prelude/accord

b18 is from integra (old model, with bug eyes(round) or sometimes rectangle headlights)

k20 is from integra DC5 (the newer bulky one)

this should help

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47020

[GRU53M]

EG GL is a 1.5 dual carb,
EG BREEZE is 1.3L single carb.

Say no to carby southy..

The EG breeze form 1995 had a 1.5l carbie engine.

[dougie_504]

D-series are quite strong, they just don't come in DOHC VTEC, only DOHC non-VTEC or SOHC VTEC ---> both of which are considered to be less worthy of building.

B16A has nice HP but not really so much torque, needs to be driven hard for enjoyment.

B18C has more HP and torque than B16A, very popular swap for those who are unhappy with B16A.

B20VTEC swap is a monster and if you're going to spend money on a swap could be very worthwhile. The torque you get out of it is, in most opinions, a far better trade-off for the little HP you could lose if you were to build up a B16 or B18.

K20 is a more modern (ugly IMO) engine and goes very hard, but is fairly expensive and there's less support for the engine I think. I wouldn't do it because of the cost (even though it's coming down) and that support (even though it's getting better), but mostly because it's UGLY!

Other option is the H22A. 2.2L DOHC VTEC engine, AUS engine is about 147kw and they can be bought cheaply (like almost half the price of a B16A). Might be a tiny bit heavy on the chassis of an EG Civic though, so not the best option if you want to go around corners fast, but if you wanna go off the line quickly it's a good choice IMO. Less support for this engine series than the B series.

[SHU-ES1]

i'd go for the EG Si with DOHC non vtec. goes well even without vtec, the sohc is not so great even with its vtec system but the choice is up to you at the end of the day. what you are looking for, and what you plan to do to it.

[southy]

i'd go for the EG Si with DOHC non vtec. goes well even without vtec, the sohc is not so great even with its vtec system but the choice is up to you at the end of the day. what you are looking for, and what you plan to do to it.

Thanks heaps for the info guys!
If im going to swap ill probably be leaning towards the b18c as it wil be lighter but still a capable engine..

@ SHU-ES1 it will be my daily/weekend and sometimes track car, obvioulsy it still hasnt to be fairly comfortable and not too crazy as i travel 160km daily..
and the plans would be just simple like stripped rear end, coilovers good rims/tyres, braces and maybe purchase a bolt in half cage and the engine swap. I cant really justify anything doing anything more to a daily car that will hit the track once every 2 months or so..

Cheers

[im.Kusuma]

The EG breeze form 1995 had a 1.5l carbie engine.



had? how can you be so sure its not converted?
I searched it up on honda.com.au, doesnt say 1,4xxx cc >_>

Body style 3-door hatch
On-sale dates Oct 1991 - Sep 1995
Engine 1,343cc SOHC 16 valve, 4-cyl CARB
Power / torque 55kW / 102Nm
Transmission 5-speed manual
Notes Oct 1993: Engine upgraded to 1,493cc (67kW / 119Nm)

[MWAKU]

yes the 1995 was a 1.5L single carb
http://www.redbook.com.au/used-cars/details.aspx?R=71191&__Qpb=true&Cr=13&__Ns=p_Make_String|0||p_ClassificationType_String| 0||p_Family_String|0||p_Year_String|1||p_SequenceN um_Int32|0&__N=2994%204294956040%204294843458%204294965327&silo=1300&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=19&__sid=1263D1D51B6E

another problem with civics is the thermostat

lol franz


had? how can you be so sure its not converted?
I searched it up on honda.com.au, doesnt say 1,4xxx cc >_>

Body style 3-door hatch
On-sale dates Oct 1991 - Sep 1995
Engine 1,343cc SOHC 16 valve, 4-cyl CARB
Power / torque 55kW / 102Nm
Transmission 5-speed manual
Notes Oct 1993: Engine upgraded to 1,493cc (67kW / 119Nm)

[GRU53M]

had? how can you be so sure its not converted?
I searched it up on honda.com.au, doesnt say 1,4xxx cc >_>

Body style 3-door hatch
On-sale dates Oct 1991 - Sep 1995
Engine 1,343cc SOHC 16 valve, 4-cyl CARB
Power / torque 55kW / 102Nm
Transmission 5-speed manual
Notes Oct 1993: Engine upgraded to 1,493cc (67kW / 119Nm)


The reason i know is that i have one & i have now converted it from the 1.5L carbie to a B16A, So that how i know that they came with one.

[4age8u]

vti's have vtec. the gl model is a 1.3L carby and gli is a 1.5L fuel injected no vtec though.

wrong gl is 1.5 twin carb and 94 above gl have 1.3

[4age8u]

heres my common problem on my eg its a 92 eg4 gl...rear bushing were shot,engine oil leak, gearbox crunch , rust on gas lid ,

[im.Kusuma]

yes the 1995 was a 1.5L single carb
http://www.redbook.com.au/used-cars/details.aspx?R=71191&__Qpb=true&Cr=13&__Ns=p_Make_String|0||p_ClassificationType_String| 0||p_Family_String|0||p_Year_String|1||p_SequenceN um_Int32|0&__N=2994%204294956040%204294843458%204294965327&silo=1300&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=19&__sid=1263D1D51B6E

another problem with civics is the thermostat

lol franz
doesnt say 1995 michael haha so i take it as a 1.3 for me..
lol. still a shit box anyway


The reason i know is that i have one & i have now converted it from the 1.5L carbie to a B16A, So that how i know that they came with one.
my bad dude, didnt mean to insult or accuse you or anything :p it was just something i didnt know.. lol


heres my common problem on my eg its a 92 eg4 gl...rear bushing were shot,engine oil leak, gearbox crunch , rust on gas lid ,

got same problem with gearbox crunching, only on reverse though

[ninzee]

Thanks heaps for the info guys!
If im going to swap ill probably be leaning towards the b18c as it wil be lighter but still a capable engine..

@ SHU-ES1 it will be my daily/weekend and sometimes track car, obvioulsy it still hasnt to be fairly comfortable and not too crazy as i travel 160km daily..
and the plans would be just simple like stripped rear end, coilovers good rims/tyres, braces and maybe purchase a bolt in half cage and the engine swap. I cant really justify anything doing anything more to a daily car that will hit the track once every 2 months or so..

Cheers

while your at it why not invest in some recaros or bucket seats of some sort
they will be more comfortable on and off the track and they look sxc as fk

[dougie_504]

Hmmm, I find bucket seats a bit uncomfortable but I'm 186cm and 100kg.

If you're going to track the car maybe just buy one ADR approved bucket seat and change it over when you go to the track - otherwise you could get uncomfortable not being able to spread your junk out as much when you're driving that daily 160km you mentioned.