how would i go abouts to get the FD1 on HID. need help

[kawai]

Hi, i know there are billions of thread about HID and also a few on the fd with HID, im just wondering about people who have installed them and how are they working and would love it if you cant post some decent photos of the lights and cut of points and the brand will be nice too :D.


so to make it short
Post photos
details on their hid kit (how much,brand...etc).

Also wondering if the housing for the light of New Zealand or Japaneses FD /w HID are different to the Australian FD. Also if anybody have tried to get them from wreckers b4.

[eNGee]

Sup!

I've recently installed a 6000K HB4 slim HID Kit in my FD1 about 2 weeks ago.

The install was easy-ish. Took off the front wheels and had to access the low beam bulbs from under the front wheel plastic guards. Took me a couple of hours cos I'm a newbie...

The light the HID Kit emits is wicked (a white/purple tinge) and they have worked fine thus far. I also haven't had any problems with "blinding" other drivers on the road or the Fuzz aka Police... as nobody has high beamed me and I have also driven past a few Police cars (i'm certain they were in awe and jealous :p)

I bought my set from Platinum Visuals a Trader on this forum for around $100ish. However, these are on SALE now (till 31 January 2010) for the HID Kit for $78 expressed... which is a fricken BARGAIN... certainly BANG FOR YOUR BUCK!

You can check out some pics and more details in the link below :thumbsup:

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125197

Hope this assists :)

[kawai]

o noice, is the right side of the car slightly elevated when picture is taken?

BTW are those DC5 wheels i see on your car?

[eNGee]

The right light appears to be higher, however, my car wasn't elevated when i took the photos, my driveway is sloped and the garage roller door was open...

Correct! DC5s wheels :cool:

BTW... i have also recently changed the front parker lights to SMD 1watt (thx ebay) so now both HID low beams and parkers match.

[aero]

U'll have to help me install hids on my car when I get back in brissy. Still on holidays in Vietnam with the girlfriend =]

[eNGee]

I can lend you a hand, no probz ^.^ Just give us a yell when ur back.
In the meantime have fun O/S.

[kawai]

you better take photos when you install it :D and show instruction on where you mount the balisters (or how ever you call the 2 plastic block thing o ma'gig)

[kawai]

you better take photos when you install it :D and show instruction on where you mount the balisters (or how ever you call the 2 plastic block thing o ma'gig)

[jon22]

installing my hids soon, i just got back from vietnam! haha havent had time, just put in my mugen style front grille though. took me like 2 hours. ****en clips are so annoying

[dny]

i installed my HID in about an hour.... the longest part was taking the wheel and clips off

[curtis265]

the pic's terrible! bad on a slope, and the garage door isn't shut so u cn't see the cutoff shape properly...

got better one...?

[ivtecep3]

no need to take ur wheels off, just turn ur wheel to one side, that saves heaps of time and u dont have to work on the car with it jacked up, much safer =p i did my brothers car a while back, took about 30 mins, just make sure u get ur alignment balanced on bothside so ur hids project evenly and not have one higher than the other or it looks fked

[dny]

ha yeh i tried that turning crap. my heads too big and i wanted to look inside so i just took off the wheel :P

[ivtecep3]

hahaha alrite, good luck with that, but if u havent brought ur hids yet, i got a mate who sells/installs em from bout $160 fitted, he has all brightness (3k -120k) available suited for all cars. his name is allen, pm me if u want his number..save urself the trouble lol

[zimmy83]

ohh is he in sydney??

[ivtecep3]

naa sorry mate, s.e of melb

[curtis265]

I mite be doing HID's soon.

reason no-one has photos is because it's a simple plug n play job - ridiculously simple, and you have to go behind ur wheel arches and through that plastic cover, which is also hard to take decent photos of. I"ll give it a shot, but i might not get aroudn to it for a few days, or weeks even. I get lazed.

[dny]

i get hell paranoid driving at night now since i've had my HIDs... the 8000k are fkn bright

[.k.]

isnt the install teh same as changing low beam bulbs engee? .. it's plug and play hid yeah? just need to find somewhere to mount the ballasts; then plug teh bulb in like you would low beam n they should be good to go?

did you need to change fuses or anything?

[ivtecep3]

theres plenty of room behind the guards to mount the ballasts, sum hid kits come with mounts, or just use some double sided tape n cable ties ^^ hehe

[curtis265]

ganj3 recommends under the headlight :thumbsup:

the FD headlights are designed to have HID's in other countries.

[dny]

how do you angle the light? :S

[curtis265]

in the manual... wait i'll find someting helpful for u
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/roflcurtis/Untitled.png

I personaly can't make sense of it myself, lol

[dny]

wow. i just checked under my hood and i totally cbf! hahahahahaha
thanks curtis

[curtis265]

yeh i can't find that bloody thing either. My passenger headlight is waaay higher than my driver (i was gonna lower)

[spastic]

ur passenger headlight should be about 3cm higher than drivers side (aimed at a wall from about 7m).

[dny]

i dont know how to describe how my light is scattered... its a bit weird, ill take photo and upload it

[curtis265]

mine is about 3cm, from about 50cm away...

wik'd :D

im eager to see the HID cutoff.

[kawai]

awww.......................... GENTS PLZ POST PICTURES :D i wanna know how the lights looks on yours :D and also what brand are you guys using :D

[eNGee]

isnt the install teh same as changing low beam bulbs engee? .. it's plug and play hid yeah? just need to find somewhere to mount the ballasts; then plug teh bulb in like you would low beam n they should be good to go?

did you need to change fuses or anything?

Yo .k. spot on! It's just the same as changing the low beam bulbs. Just plug and play. Stick/mount the ballasts somewhere (i double-sided taped them) and its all good :thumbsup:

[curtis265]

I'll will be getting kaixen.

I don't thnik the brand matters terribly, that just determinees the quality and how long it'll last.

[.k.]

did u both to hide your ballasts really well or just took a long time to take everything apart haha?

[dny]

ill upload a cutoff point tomoz night! i couldn't be ****ed reversing out of my garage hahaha :P
i havn't taken a photo where i've installed the t10 parkers but they dont really make much difference. just disconnected the parkers after i installed the HID because the yellow looks shit
http://co116w.col116.mail.live.com/att/GetAttachment.aspx?tnail=0&messageId=e2bb1b1f-0aa1-11df-b083-00215ad823d4&Aux=14|0|8CC6CC5CC839590||

[Muzzy]

Ok I have a noob question on this topic.

I just installed my HIDs yesterday. They look freakin awesome! They're the 6000k from Platinum Visuals. Thanks for the link at the start of this thread btw.

Anyway installed everything ok but one thing I'm wondering is whether others are actually disabling the small bulb that lights up on the inner side?? Not sure what it's called but this is the very low beam ones when you turn the light switch once.

I don't really mind the yellow light showing together with my HIDs but I was just curious as to what others are doing...

Cheers.

PS: I might try and take some pics tonight to put up here.

[.k.]

its called a parker. change to like a t10 led one and it will look fine. i think i did a diy a while ago if u wanna look for it in diy section

[eNGee]

Rather than disabling the parker light altogether, I've changed the stock parkers to 1 watt SMD bulbs (courtesy of ebay - approx $5 for a pair posted)^.^ It looks alright, a slightly different colour than the HID's but definately better than the stock yellow parkers.

To change the parker's you'll have to access via the hood/engine bay. I'll try and upload some pics tonite.

NOTE: +1 for .k.'s D.I.Y. Watch out for the overflow rad bottle. It's easy to take out, hard to put back!!

[Muzzy]

Thanks for the response guys.

I'll explore those two options.

EDIT: I mean that option since it's the same option.

[curtis265]

NOTE: +1 for .k.'s D.I.Y. Watch out for the overflow rad bottle. It's easy to take out, hard to put back!!

Helps if you take that battery clamp off :thumbsup:




ill upload a cutoff point tomoz night! i couldn't be ****ed reversing out of my garage hahaha :P
i havn't taken a photo where i've installed the t10 parkers but they dont really make much difference. just disconnected the parkers after i installed the HID because the yellow looks shit
http://co116w.col116.mail.live.com/att/GetAttachment.aspx?tnail=0&messageId=e2bb1b1f-0aa1-11df-b083-00215ad823d4&Aux=14|0|8CC6CC5CC839590||

I have white parkers, theyre very bright... right now i've got stock halogens with white parkers, lol

[Muzzy]

I just checked ebay and found a Xenon LED one. I think that one should do.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370287375652


I think the T10 LEDs are universal right? Or is it the T10 501 for Civic 8th Gen?

[eNGee]

I just checked ebay and found a Xenon LED one. I think that one should do.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370287375652


I think the T10 LEDs are universal right? Or is it the T10 501 for Civic 8th Gen?

That's the same one I've got =)

The T10s are universal.

[Muzzy]

That's the same one I've got =)

The T10s are universal.

Oh ok cheers.

Is it any good? There's so many out there I'm getting confused now. Lol
If they're good I'll just go with those..

[curtis265]

Just get something that's bright - 1W is probably good to go with. Nice n bright - i can see a lot with my 1w smd led's.

LED's blow quite easily - beware of that. They cant handle much current spike, so make sure your lights are turned off when ur engine starts

[eNGee]

Oh ok cheers.

Is it any good? There's so many out there I'm getting confused now. Lol
If they're good I'll just go with those..

They're awesome, nice n bright. Just go with those :p

The LED/SMD should also last quite a while. At least longer than the halogen ones.

[curtis265]

Oh BTW. Found this on another site.



Proceed at your own risk and your own liability.
This is a DIY thread for the KAIXEN HID Kit for the 8th generation Civic. You can purchase this HID kit from us for $305 shipped to the continental US.

Parts:

KAIXEN HID KIT

http://gallery.8thcivic.com/albums/album05/kai1.jpg[/mg]

DIY Instructions:

1. Raise the front of the vehicle, and support it with safety stands in the proper locations.

2. Remove the front wheels.

3. Remover inner fender liner. There are about 5-6 clips.

[img]http://gallery.8thcivic.com/albums/album05/kai2.jpg

4. Unclip the white connector for the low beam bulb by pushing in the tab and pulling down.

http://gallery.8thcivic.com/albums/album05/kai3.jpg

5. Turn the bulb housing counter clockwise and remove.

6. Insert new HID bulb and turn clockwise. Be careful not to touch the bulb b/c the oil from your fingers will rub off on the bulb. When the bulb becomes heated this oil will cause the bulb to burst. If you do touch it wipe it down with rubbing alcohol.

Here is a pic of how all the connectors mate up.

HID Kit connections

http://gallery.8thcivic.com/albums/album05/kai4.jpg
Car and HID Kit connections

http://gallery.8thcivic.com/albums/album05/kai5.jpg

7. After setting the bulb in the headlight housing correctly and mating up all the connectors in the HID kit and to the original connector check to make sure the HID kit is working by turning on the headlights. If the headlight does not come on you will need to check to make sure the wires are routed properly. Turn the headlights off and try the following. Here is how to confirm it.

Find the white connector from the car (the original connector that plugged into the stock halogen bulb) and the blue connector from the HID kit that plugs into it. Make sure the the black (negative/ground) wire from the blue connector matches up to the black (negative/ground) wire on the white connector and that the red (positive/power) wire from the blue connector goes to the green (positive/power) wire on the white connector. If they are not matched up correctly then you will put out the spade connectors and switch the two wires as shown in this picture. Notice how the blue connector red wire is now going to the black wire and the red wire to the black wire.

http://gallery.8thcivic.com/albums/album05/kai6.jpg

8. Now put the double sided tape on the back of the ballast and find a good location to stick the ballast to. Make sure that the ballast has room to aerate and that water won't be dumped on it. Although it is waterproof I wouldn't put it in a spot where tons of water would fall on it.

http://gallery.8thcivic.com/albums/album05/kai7.jpg

9. Put the fender liner back on and repeat for the opposite side.

10. Put the wheels back on and torque to 80 ft lbs in a star pattern.

11. Enjoy your HID's. These are my KAIXEN 5000K's (extreme white).

http://gallery.8thcivic.com/albums/album05/kai8.jpg

We also have:

6000k - extreme white w/ hint of blue
6500k - extreme white w/ hint of purple
8500k - extreme blue

Like i said earlier, we supposively have a better mounting location right underneath the FD's headlights, so try do it there (i'll haven't seen it for myself though.)

[dny]

i put my ballasts differently on each side... the right side i screwed it into place with the piece and the left side i just zip tied it down to a really neat and secure spot. i would show pictures but you'd have to pay me just to take my wheels and wheel lining off :P

for the left side i watched this video but i tottally forgot where i got it from and the right side i followed this link here

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/lighting-h-i-d-s-neon/21376-my-civics-hid-diy-installation.html

[Muzzy]

I fastened my ballasts with zip-ties on both sides. There was a nice little bracket on both sides where I could just place the ballast on.

The zip ties go over and around the ballast though. I'm hoping that wouldn't cause any issues due to heat right?

It says not to use zip ties in that DIY guide because the ballast needs good grounding. But mine actually sits on the metal bracket so it should be good enough..

[dny]

http://co116w.col116.mail.live.com/att/GetAttachment.aspx?tnail=0&messageId=5a95a0e2-0aee-11df-8e4f-00215ad88908&Aux=54|0|8CC6D1240CC5850||
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pretty average lookn! can't really see the blue even though they're 8000k HID
but the parkers in real life are super fkn bright

[jon22]

i just installed my hids yesterday, i bolted it down to that little spot under the headlight. looks tidy enough for me. love the output of my hids though. took me about 2 hours to install em.

[curtis265]

you need to ground your ballast? was that a PnP kit?

[.k.]

heres link if anyone need a bit of help.. http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112355

[eNGee]

here's some more pics of the SMD parkers and HIDs.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d81/darleennst/IMG_2468.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d81/darleennst/IMG_2472.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d81/darleennst/ParkerHID.jpg

[kawai]

thx for the nice pics, nice to know what my civic will look like with the platinum vision hids :D i have purchased the hb4 hid but still waiting for the civic :D


btw any one know any good ebay led light (the strip ones) to place on where the foggies are or under the headlamp?

[dny]

LOL you havnt even got your car yet. dedication

[kawai]

i wouldnt mind to get it a bit earlier but have to wait for shipment to arrive, my eg is almost dead :( too..... cry

[curtis265]

HEy guys, i'm about to go do it, but the kit i got is missing the other bit of foam tape (kaixen kit), thanks to ganj3 who couldnt pull it off properly from his old FD.

The function of this tape is to stop any contact between the metal plate you mount it on, and the ballast (so that ur ballast can't discharge the wrong way..

I was going to squish up a sponge and stick it in between, but i'm concerend that
a) the sponge might melt if the ballast gets too hot
b) the ballast may spark causing the sponge to melt or even catch fire.

Any recommendations? I'm trying to find spognge tape arund the house, i KNOW it's aroudn somewhere, but can't find it :(

any suggestions for now?

[kawai]

how about some silicon glue? as long as you leave it for 4h+ it should be strong enough :D, then just some ties to fasten it up.?

[curtis265]

nah, can't be permanent like silicon glue

[kawai]

silicon isn't permanent :) can be easily taken off with a butter knife or something flat :D (silicon glue not liquid nails)

[dny]

use felt curtis

[curtis265]

Bought some double sided foam tape today, gonna layer it up and use it when i install it (today hopefully)

[Muzzy]

So I got my parkers yesterday and put them in last night. The outcome is OK but not as good as I expected. They're SDM 1W LED T10's.

Does anyone have a better recommendation for brighter parkers? I might consider changing em' later on...

I took some pics too. prolly put em up tonight for your viewing.

[curtis265]

Ebay link? Whod u buy from? makes a big diff...

it's hard to tell brigness from a photo too :(

obtw, i have my HID's installed. It was a kaixen PnP kit. Easy as FOCK

[Muzzy]

yeah here's the link. I had posted it here before and someone else mentioned it's the same ones he's got and recommended them.

Maybe I'm just being overly picky.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370287375652

[curtis265]

Hm they should be alright. how do they compare to the stock halogen ones? Mine are more or less the same brightness.

[eNGee]

Yepz, i'm pretty sure you are being a little fussy muzzy.

Either that or you have received a defective pair...

Mine are the same as yours and i've got pics on the previous page. They are bright enuff 4 me.

If ya don't like them as parkers you could use them as rear license plate lights and get yourself a different pair from another place.

[Muzzy]

Yea I think it's just me being fussy lol

Here's pics I posted in the review forum for Platinum Visuals HID's review thread.

http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2640679#post2640679

And here's a pic of the parkers at night. Same ones I believe.

http://users.tpg.com.au/muzzy01/HID/PARKERS.JPG

[curtis265]

Like i said, it's ahrd to tell from the photo.

Anyway, were u expecting to be able to see anything from those? They are just parkers afterall.

[Muzzy]

Nah I wasn't expecting to see anything with the parkers. I think I was just comparing them to the HIDs and they seemed to be a fair bit more dim.

I remember looking on ebay and they have some with 4 LEDS etc. Not sure if they would suit the car though, might require higher voltage.

I'm content with my purchase now. I think it's fine :)

[Muzzy]

Yepz, i'm pretty sure you are being a little fussy muzzy.

Either that or you have received a defective pair...

Mine are the same as yours and i've got pics on the previous page. They are bright enuff 4 me.

If ya don't like them as parkers you could use them as rear license plate lights and get yourself a different pair from another place.

I bought an extra two of these to use as rear licence plate lights. How do you change those? I'm sure it's piss easy, prolly tells you in the manual too but I'm just lazy..lol

[.k.]

i think i've done a diy so check diy section.. u take like 4 screws off, pull back the liner and then just change bulbs takes like 1minute

[curtis265]

Nah I wasn't expecting to see anything with the parkers. I think I was just comparing them to the HIDs and they seemed to be a fair bit more dim.

I remember looking on ebay and they have some with 4 LEDS etc. Not sure if they would suit the car though, might require higher voltage.

I'm content with my purchase now. I think it's fine :)

4led ones are 4 crap led's as opposed to your 1 super led that you just bought - better quality light you've bought.

Parkers are only to give colour to your reflector though, not actually create light.


I bought an extra two of these to use as rear licence plate lights. How do you change those? I'm sure it's piss easy, prolly tells you in the manual too but I'm just lazy..lol

i used 'flank' led's - the FD's numberplate lights need the light to come out of the side of the bulb, not the top.

i recommend warden_jp2002 on ebay. products are superior to the australian seller ebuyproduct. He's from HK but he ships on time :)

[Muzzy]

4led ones are 4 crap led's as opposed to your 1 super led that you just bought - better quality light you've bought.

Parkers are only to give colour to your reflector though, not actually create light.



i used 'flank' led's - the FD's numberplate lights need the light to come out of the side of the bulb, not the top.

i recommend warden_jp2002 on ebay. products are superior to the australian seller ebuyproduct. He's from HK but he ships on time :)

I just checked out some of his products. He seems to sell a lot of the 5 LED SMD bulbs. In fact I couldn't see one single LED one?

So you reckon the single LED is superior to warden_jp2002's 5 LED + ones?

[curtis265]

a single 1W led is superior to one with 5 smaller LED's, definitely.

sorta like a quality over quantity approach.

[Muzzy]

gotcha! :)

[evil_1998]

My 5 bulb S.M.D

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs051.snc3/13833_205963916788_571036788_4036752_6060465_n.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs051.snc3/13833_205963896788_571036788_4036751_6706494_n.jpg

[Muzzy]

see that looks alot brighter IMO.

where did you get them from evil_1998 ?

[kawai]

where did we all ended up mounting the ballast, and did we stuck em on with double sided tape or bolts or ties?

im thinking about the top side like the pictures with the kinix kit photos. any better idea?

http://gallery.8thcivic.com/albums/album05/kai7.jpg

[curtis265]

Do you see that thing connecting the fender to the chassis? like... near the bottom of the photo?

I cable tied it on there.

[kawai]

the right angle bar? it dont have have any airbag sensors there right? my initial though was to place it there too when i had a look under the car. does the ballast get hot? cus i have a little black box which hangs of it dont know if i should just place it on top of the ballast.

[curtis265]

Well, it doesn't really do muh except hold the fender up - there weren't any wires on it or anything :S

I hope s omeone else did this... lol

[Muzzy]

Yeah I think I cable tied mine on that bracket too from memory. My cable ties actually go through the holes and around the ballast to hold it on tight. I hope the ballasts don't get hot coz that means the cable will melt after a while. Have to open it and double check over the weekend to make sure it's still ok. Been about a month or more no issues.

Recently put on my H11 foggies and they were a little tougher as there's less room. But I bolted one of those (with the bracket) that caused some room/positioning issues.

[kawai]

any one bothered to adjust their light after installation? cus its seems like a bi**h to do.

[Muzzy]

any one bothered to adjust their light after installation? cus its seems like a bi**h to do.

How do you adjust them? I can tell that one of mine is slightly off too..

[kawai]

There is a hole or a screw on the top of the headlight under the plastic that cover which, covers the headlights and radiator. The plastic is held down by the nobs which are like for the plastic cover in your wheel arch (the thing which you pulled off to install the hid) but they don't have a notch like the ones there so it makes it a bit harder to do. and im not sure if there are any hidden screws.

btw on the top of the plastic cover (over light and radiator) there is a sign there on both left and right hand side with U and D im guessing is directly under there.

[Muzzy]

Yeah you're not wrong that does sound like a b**ch to do!

Might check it out on the weekend.

[kawai]

hey muzzy look at this thread started it the other day and got some reply.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2685986#post2685986

[Muzzy]

Thanks mate, can't see the pic coz I'm at work and its blocked tho... have to check it when I get home.

[cw_wt]

here some photos for FD1 Civic with hid kit
1. full lock your wheel to one side
2. take off the cover
3. take off the light
4. put the hid bulbs in.
5. mount the ballast under the headlight

time: depend on what is you want take off the wheel to do or not. usually take around 45min to an hour.

hope this can help ur guys