Injen CAI in Oz Euro

[jolt]

I just picked up my parcel from customs with my Injen CAI inside!! :D

Exquisite workmanship and I'm very keen to get it fitted to the Euro to see what sort of difference it makes.

Has anybody else fitted one to an Oz Euro before, is there anything to watch out for? I have found these instructions on the web (http://www.pryor-place.com/honda/TSXInjenCAI_DIY.htm) for fitment to a US TSX by removing the wheel arch rather than the front bar, so I won't bother putting together my own install guide but I will keep an eye out for any differences due to our RHD configuration.

One minor difference will be the fitment of an AEM bypass valve in between the two Injen pipes, replacing the supplied Injen rubber coupler. My wife drives the Euro most of the time and there is no way that she would compromise and keep out of deep puddles in the rain, so I thought I would get one of these just to be on the safe non-hydrolocked engine side of things.

http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7917&highlight=coolant+bypass
I will also be carrying out this throttle body coolant bypass mod which I have already completed on my MX5. I have no idea whether this really provides any benefit, but two things I know for sure are that in Australia there is virtually no risk of the throttle body sticking unless you're in one of the few places where it snows and it's virtually free. ;)

regards
Rod

[toE]

Congrats.

You gonna do a before and after dyno run?

[jolt]

I haven't done a "before" dyno run, but once I have completed the mod's I will be getting it dyno'd to see what increases have been achieved. Final list of mod's will be:

1. Injen CAI
2. AEM bypass valve (shouldn't affect power)
3. Hondata intake manifold heatshield gasket
4. Throttle body coolant bypass mod
5. V-AFC II
6. ?? NGK iridiums and silicon spark plug leads ??
7. ?? DC Sports/Comptech header ??

Mod 7 is a maybe, but I won't ever be changing the standard mufflers because there is nothing worse than the sound of an automatic gearbox slopping between the gears with a loud exhaust droning away.

The ignition system (mod 6) is something that I haven't looked into at all yet ... not sure what ignition system the car even runs to be honest. Can anybody shed some light on this? Any proven gains from mod's?

If someone is happy to come along when I get the "after" dyno done with their standard automatic Euro, I will happily pay for their dyno run just to have that point of comparison.

Anybody in Sydney interested? I'll try to get it done on a weekend.

thanks
Rod

[Sp3rMz]

You should do before and after dyno run. It be interesting to compare the figures.

[jolt]

By having someone there with another auto Accord Euro but in standard form it should achieve the same comparison. In fact I think that having two cars dyno'd within 30 minutes of each other should give a more accurate comparison than dyno'ing the same car but at least a day, more likely a few weeks apart.

Rod

[Type R Positive]

Has anybody else fitted one to an Oz Euro before, is there anything to watch out for? I have found these instructions on the web (http://www.pryor-place.com/honda/TSXInjenCAI_DIY.htm) (http://www.pryor-place.com/honda/TSXInjenCAI_DIY.htm%29) for fitment to a US TSX by removing the wheel arch rather than the front bar, so I won't bother putting together my own install guide but I will keep an eye out for any differences due to our RHD configuration.

regards
Rod
Unless you have really small girly hands, you might have to pull off the front bar a bit on the left hand side. The front bar is only cliped on underneath, it just pulls out at the top, like underneath the headlights. Room is tight to undo one friggin bolt on the resonator. Getting the resonator out of the front can be a pain in the ass, but the pieces pull apart. The wheel arch and front bar are only held on by plastic clips. I had to pryse them out with a small screw driver and they came out easy enough.

I found it much easier to pull the whole battery out, this gives you heaps more room to work with.

It only took about an hour to pull all the shit out and fit, but time flys when you are having fun! One tip, don't let your girly watch you do it, she will cry and think you are going to destroy the car.

[coladuna]

By having someone there with another auto Accord Euro but in standard form it should achieve the same comparison. IMO not necessarily. Even if they are the same cars, their dyno result can differ somewhat. As these mods won't give you huge difference in power relative to mods like putting in a turbo for example, the most accurate would be to dyno the before and after of the same car. But, if you can't be bothered or circumstances doesn't allow you to do that, who cares. :p

Do you mind if I ask you how much it cost you to get Injen CAI from the US and where you got it from?

[jolt]

I got it through ebay from www.streetlightz.com (http://www.streetlightz.com) and I was VERY lucky to get out of paying customs on it. It got held up there, but I managed to talk my way out of it.

Price was US$240 plus shipping costs of US$55 so just under A$400 landed. I was also able to get Hondata gaskets (one for my MX5 too) and some ricey Spoon socks as part of the package for additional cost but not much more shipping.

Hope that helps, attention your emails to Andy and tell them that Rod Wilson recommended him, so he sees a thread of interest coming from Australia.

thanks
Rod

[Pum[Z]]

Congratulations on ur buy... The injen CAI is definetly worth the buy... Once its installed and the vtec kicks in it screams big time...

The Injen CAI is a bit hard to install...

The instructions that were given looks a breeze but in reality it is quite hard. Took me 4 hours total time to install it and that is for the short ram part. I haven't even bothered putting the other piece of pipe to it to make it a true CAI.

I probably would do it in a few weeks time because i already asked the panel beaters to take off the resenator airbox when fitting my new bumper...

A word of advice Jolt there is one tube that u have to swap and if u don't swap it quickly the radiotor fluid will start leaking out. I found out the hard way hehehehe... The K&N CAI is so much easier to install... The Injen u have to take out hoses here and there and swap it around....

Hope u enjoy ur new toy for the euro. Remember what injen guarantee's its dynoproven to produce the most HP from any CAI setup :D ...

[jolt]

Four hours just to set it up as a SRI?!?! That's a bloody long time!! I'll have to check out how long it takes me to fit it.

Will write back with a report on how the fitting went assuming I get time to do it this weekend.

regards
Rod

[learner]

hi everyone,

Rod(jolt), just wanna ask u that which model No. of silicon spark plug leads did u get for your euro??? cos i went to da shop and they couldnt find which model is for accord euro....

and the NGK iridiums spark plug... where did u get it??

Thx

[jolt]

Sorry Learner, but I only meant that as a mod I was thinking about, I haven't got any spark plugs or leads yet.

I'll let you know as soon as I work out if there is anything available.

regards
Rod

[yfin]

Noel on tsxclub.com has fit Denso Iridium IK24 spark plugs to his Euro.

I don't know whether it is worth changing plugs - the OEM are platinum. If you have money to burn - go for it.

[EuroAccord13]

Photos pleasssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :)

[Pum[Z]]

Well here's my Injen CAI in SRI mode... Cannot be stuffed putting it to CAI mode atm... Might do it when i have the time or when i am bored in January...

Tell us when u got urs installed Rod and make sure u post pics of it...

http://www.ozhonda.com/gallery/data/500/2249DSCF0074.JPG

[PERTH_EURO]

Was the TB mod easy?
Much differance in Performance?

Any handy tips??

[PERTH_EURO]

Mine has now arrived, havent seen it as im not it Perth at moment

will let ya know how i go

[AccordEuro]

boyz ...i bought a Apexi VAFC2 ages ago, but jz can't find a proper place to install it, any help?
since i went to the workshop in parramatta, it seems they have a lot of problems to install it to Euro, i'm also wondering if it is installable or...........................bought from $650.

[PERTH_EURO]

was just thinking... how do you go about cleaning the filter. Does the front bar have to be removed each time to get to pod??

(when in CAI mode, not short like Michaels)

[euro77]

boyz ...i bought a Apexi VAFC2 ages ago, but jz can't find a proper place to install it, any help?
since i went to the workshop in parramatta, it seems they have a lot of problems to install it to Euro, i'm also wondering if it is installable or...........................bought from $650.

you mean a proper place to mount it? I just put mine in the glove box, concealed from thieves to be.

[stephen8512]

was just thinking... how do you go about cleaning the filter. Does the front bar have to be removed each time to get to pod??

(when in CAI mode, not short like Michaels)


i was thinkin the same thing
u could probably fold back the wheel guard of the front left tyre, just like u would when u change ur parket lights....

[EuroAccord13]

was just thinking... how do you go about cleaning the filter. Does the front bar have to be removed each time to get to pod??

(when in CAI mode, not short like Michaels)


No you don't have too... I do this all the time :)

[PERTH_EURO]

so you only need to remove the bumper the first time in order to remove resonator. After that its all good. Excellent :thumbsup:

[stephen8512]

timbo let us know how u go about removing the front bumper cuz since urs is luxury, im just curious as how the foglights and the HID washers will detach....they should just pop right out w/ the bumper and pop right back in when u attach the bumper again right?

[PERTH_EURO]

*** shrugs shoulders *** hope so lol

will do, hopefully if PUM[Z] has time he is goin to lend a hand, otherwise im winging it.
Will take some pics, but i think that post on acura-tsx covers it all.

Wish me luck LOL

[stephen8512]

i just bought my INJEN CAI off ebay as well. LOL.
i know i said i'll buy it when i have enuff money for everything but meh cant wait
hehehe
timbo, u paid with bidpay right?

[PERTH_EURO]

yep thats it stephen :thumbsup:

this guy in the states must be loving us ozhonda members lol :honda:

[PERTH_EURO]

Im now back in Perth. Package arrived with no damage or anything whatsoever

what you get

http://img289.echo.cx/img289/6703/img36521mu.jpg
Theres even a numberplate surround

All i need now is my car back.... its been a long month :(

[Pum[Z]]

Im now back in Perth. Package arrived with no damage or anything whatsoever

what you get

http://img289.echo.cx/img289/6703/img36521mu.jpg
Theres even a numberplate surround

All i need now is my car back.... its been a long month :(

Yeah u get numberplate surround but doesn't fit on my number plates...

U also get a Injen sticker...

Where's ur euro Timbo?? I'm without my euro as well for 2 weeks...

[stephen8512]

i think its at smash repairs....correct me if im wrong timbo

[PERTH_EURO]

yeah it was.
got it back late this arvo. job is OK at best not overlly happy.

new headlight tommorow morning

new konis on fri

[PERTH_EURO]

Injen has been fitted in Sort Ram Mode

so easy, no shit it took me 45mins to do.
Performance seems better, but sound is unreal.

Got a freakin headach and dont wanna rush things, so CA extension will be tommorow.

One question for those that have installed one, the throttle body coolant pipe is attached to the pvc pipe.
Now when the injen is installed the metal pipe for pvc valve is no longer used. Does that just sit there and do nothing now?

Im suprised Injen just dont make a "u" shaped connector and do away with the TB connecter and pvc connector.
Anyways pics to come of the peice i mean


Pics will come soon.. imageshack wasn't working.

[stephen8512]

nice timbo!
im guessin u havent removed the resonater yet

[PERTH_EURO]

ok all done now

Stephen i didnt remove the bumber completely. Just the passangers side.
It gave me enough room to get to the 3 bolts that hold the resonator in.

I didn't remove wheel, but turned it to full lock and one by one removed the little plastic clips and bolts as i felt play in the bar i just kept undoing until the bar "popped out" below the headlight. It took a bit of a pull but no problems.

It is easy as to get to 2 of the 3 bolts, dont have to remove bar for that.
Its the 3rd one at the front that is a biatch. The three u need to remove are a goldy colour.

If you manage to get the bar out, the 3rd (front) bolt is easy to get to.
If u undo the ones that are easy to get to, the resonator comes apart. Remove that bit and wiggle the bit left behind, that will give u an idea where the 3rd screw is. (top left as you look at side of car)

Its hard to explain, but not overy hard to do.
BE PATIENT AND GENTLE!!

(the above probably doesnt help I know, but its hard to explain and camera had flat battery)

[stephen8512]

ah nice timbo!
thanks for the tips. the money order was approved 3 days ago for me and it should reach the dealer soon. cant wait for mine to arrive. are u going to put up a video clip or sound clip of the INJEN?

[PERTH_EURO]

ull have to wait for yours lol




(only cause i dont know how to post a sound :( )

[kam]

You guys should check out this video i found. Its a Euro on a dyno, 1st with the oem intake, and then with a AEM Srs intake... the difference in sound is amazing

Is this similiar to what the injen cai sounds like ?

http://bussert.dyndns.org:81/albums/engineperformance/aemtsx_divx.avi

[PERTH_EURO]

My car and Injen... just a little poke

http://teamintegrated.org/random/timboinjen.AVI

[stephen8512]

GODDAMMMMMM TIMBO!!!!!!!
that is AWESOME!!!!!!!
sounds sooooooo throaty. gettin goosebumps....CANT WAIT FOR MINE TO ARRIVE :D:D:D
btw timbo, once you got your m/o approved by bidpay, did kurumamotoring send u an email sayin that they received the money and that they shipped the product? or was there no email?

[kam]

just one thing tho, yes the throaty exhaust sounds nice, but after a while, does it become annyoing, or is it only really loud once you are WOT ?

[stephen8512]

kam, it is pretty loud apparently, but when cruisin at 100km/h on highways with revs stable at 2500rpm, u cant really hear it
u can only hear the throatiness if u punch it and give it some

[PERTH_EURO]

GODDAMMMMMM TIMBO!!!!!!!
that is AWESOME!!!!!!!
sounds sooooooo throaty. gettin goosebumps....CANT WAIT FOR MINE TO ARRIVE :D:D:D
btw timbo, once you got your m/o approved by bidpay, did kurumamotoring send u an email sayin that they received the money and that they shipped the product? or was there no email?

there was an email from them yes :thumbsup:

i am so stoked with it hey

[aaronng]

I managed to download it. PM me your e-mail add and I'll send it to you.

[EURO-R]

My car and Injen... just a little poke

http://teamintegrated.org/random/timboinjen.AVI

:D :D Good!!! did you change exhaust system? what's your plan for next step?

[PERTH_EURO]

That sound is just the injen Plug n Play.

No exhaust mods, and no i wont be changing exhaust.

The thing i like about the injen is if u want to drive quietly, you can, or you can open her right up.
Doesnt have that continous dron of a zhorst either

And thats about it for my car. The last thing is the euro r pedals and its game over

[stephen8512]

ohhhh yeah! my injen is being shipped tomorrow. hopefully shouild be here in about a week and a bit. CANT WAIT :D

[PERTH_EURO]

u'll lurve it :thumbsup:

[EURO-R]

ohhhh yeah! my injen is being shipped tomorrow. hopefully shouild be here in about a week and a bit. CANT WAIT :D

Shipping to SDY more than 2weeks if you bought it from Ebay USA. :D good purchase:thumbsup:

[VirIIx]

ohhhh yeah! my injen is being shipped tomorrow. hopefully shouild be here in about a week and a bit. CANT WAIT :D

well done mate, you'll have to show us one day when we meet up ;)

[stephen8512]

well done mate, you'll have to show us one day when we meet up ;)

VirIIx, for sure! :D i would love to have a euro cruise sometime near the end of the year. cuz im still a full time uni student and im also workin (gettin money for mods mods mods :D and of course, some for investing in other shite) and end of year i would have my final exams over with.
anytime after october i'll be roaming the streets of sydney :D :cool:

[VirIIx]

lol.. sounds like an idea

i just worked out my monthly budget.. if i didn't have credit debt.. i'd have too much money for mods :D

i might consider the whiteline rear sway bar lol.. and the ecu of course :b

[EuroAccord13]

InJen InJen... Is there anyone out there that actually has a K&N Typhoon System other than me? :D :D.... Besides the IceBox?

[stephen8512]

A WOO HOO!!!!!!!
i just received my INJEN CAI today. pretty damn quick delivery time too!. on the parcel it said "shipped 01/06/2005". it took 5 days to get here. DAMN that was quick. heheh not complainin though....although i wont be able to put it in after my exams, which finish this week. ARGH! i'll keep you guys posted. :D:D:D:D:D

[albii]

A WOO HOO!!!!!!!
i just received my INJEN CAI today. pretty damn quick delivery time too!. on the parcel it said "shipped 01/06/2005". it took 5 days to get here. DAMN that was quick. heheh not complainin though....although i wont be able to put it in after my exams, which finish this week. ARGH! i'll keep you guys posted. :D:D:D:D:D
cool..what did it end up costing and where did you get it?

[stephen8512]

hey albii i got it from ebay and it was about 400 bucks incl. shipping

[Pum[Z]]

Stephen...

Is that injen ur present for after ur exams?? At least u got something to look foward to after u finish ur exams...

[stephen8512]

']Stephen...

Is that injen ur present for after ur exams?? At least u got something to look foward to after u finish ur exams...

hahaha mike yeah i guess u can say its the light at the end of the tunnel
hahahha all i gotta do now is see if i can actually wait :D

[PERTH_EURO]

Awesome... quick delivery is a plus.... I wait for the "how did you get to that bolt questions" :thumbsup:

As i said earlier that guy in the states must be lovin us!!

[kam]

Maybe we should all wait, and do a group buy, and possibly get a discount from "that guy in the states", or am i too late, and everybody execpt me has an Injen in their Engine... cheesy i know :D

[hardboiled]

Maybe we should all wait, and do a group buy, and possibly get a discount from "that guy in the states", or am i too late, and everybody execpt me has an Injen in their Engine... cheesy i know :D

I want one.... :D

[_CiVIC_]

I was after an Injen CAI for my civic... was costing me arms and legs so i settled with a Hurricane CAI.. does the job pretty well i must admit :)

[stephen8512]

hey fellas
installed my CAI today....
one word.......WOW! i cannot believe how damn loud it is! it gets louder and louder from 3000rpm onwards! my god! its just an awesome feeling + sound!
unfortunately its only in Short Ram mode atm..... *&$#(*%&$@ I HATE THAT BOLT!!!!!!!!!* i just needed that one bolt to remove the resonater but fkn
anyways i'll do that on saturday with a mate.
injen is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pum[Z]]

Stephen... I though u were gonna wait till u finish ur exams before u installed ur Injen?? U trying to be cheeky?? :D


Yeah injen is Goooooooooood!! Short Ram Mode is actually louder then in CAI mode u know that...

[stephen8512]

hahahaha mike i couldnt wait! it was just right there callin out to me. :D
plus i had a day off today anyway so yeah. short ram mode took next to no time to install :D
yeah u told me before that short ram is louder. but goddamn the sound is orgasmic!!!!
hahahahhaha.
next on the list : bodykit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kam]

post some video clips or pics

[stephen8512]

kam, once i get it in CAI mode, for sure i'll put some pics and vids :D

[PERTH_EURO]

...... now about that bolt LOL :)

good work!!! Exams are overated anyways :)

[stephen8512]

timbo, that bolt is a biatch and a half mate....gonna annihilate it on saturday

[yfin]

PM Euroaccord13 - he is a pro at getting that bolt off. Took him under 5 minutes in my car.

[stephen8512]

w0000000000T!
finished exams y0! hahahaha im cheeerin away :D
im gonna get to work on that bolt tomorrow. let u guys know how i go

[luzinit]

awesome mate, im thinking of getting one for civic, which ebayer did u guys get it from and how much did they charge for shipping?

[jl88rl]

Man, ive got KN i feel left out everyones going injen! :(

Basically same aint it? (I'd prefer the injen sticker tho :P)

[EuroAccord13]

InJen InJen... Is there anyone out there that actually has a K&N Typhoon System other than me? :D :D.... Besides the IceBox?

And I will quote myself again...... :D

[Tobster]

If you have a look at the dyno sheets at:

http://www.injen.com/webpages/testing/original_files/rd1430.gif

and

http://www.kandn.com/dynocharts/69-0025.jpg

you can maybe get a vague comparison between the two units. I realise that they're different cars, in different conditions, on different dynos, and are each accordingly showing different peak power outputs.

What you can roughly compare, however, is the increase over the stock run:
K&N gives a total rise of 7.69 hp, whereas the Injen gives a rise of 11.1 hp.

That's if I'm reading things right.

In the real world, that's bugger all. Unfortunately, the K&N doesn't give a torque reading, which would give a better idea.

The Comptech icebox (http://www.comptechusa.com/store/tsxdyno.html) gives a peak increase of 5.6 hp.

These are just the peaks -- no indication of of increases in the rest of the range...

[leungie]

Hi guys,
A bit of an intro, name is James, driving a 04 manual lux euro with gunmetal 18s. Never thought I would mod this car (Nissan S15 was my previous ride) until a month back when I 'think' I heard an euro with a pod.
I've just started to look at mods for the euro (springs, intake, grill and maybe full exhaust) and was wondering for the Injen intake,

1. Can I buy and use the "INJEN Cold Air Intake 04-05 Acura TSX" or is there a different model for our aussie spec?
2. Will the kit include the optional pipes to go either SRI or CAI?

Thanks in advance for your help, cheers!
James

[Sulley]

Hi guys,
A bit of an intro, name is James, driving a 04 manual lux euro with gunmetal 18s. Never thought I would mod this car (Nissan S15 was my previous ride) until a month back when I 'think' I heard an euro with a pod.
I've just started to look at mods for the euro (springs, intake, grill and maybe full exhaust) and was wondering for the Injen intake,

1. Can I buy and use the "INJEN Cold Air Intake 04-05 Acura TSX" or is there a different model for our aussie spec?
2. Will the kit include the optional pipes to go either SRI or CAI?

Thanks in advance for your help, cheers!
James
1. Yeah its a direct fit
2. you can use 1 half of the pipe and go SRI or extend it and go CAI.

cheers

[leungie]

Thanks Sulley,

And I guess the cheapest place to be buying is ebay?