Rate Your Rubber

[BraXta]

Hey guys... i had a thought... everyone is always asking... 'OMG WHAT RUBBER DO I GETS OMG WOOT WHOA....'

so i thought .. why not make a sticky or a thread where everyone who has had a brand of rubber rate it and say the pros and cons... and price =D

would be a good thing for people who want to research tyre rubber =D

ok ill start hope it is helpful idea =P lol

Type - Toyo Proxes 4
Size -225/40 ZR18
Price - $800 for all 4 installed and balance
Time frame you have had them - About 1 year and abit now
Thoughts on the Rubber - they are nice... not much road noise and smooth grip is great on the wet they are nice too really good tread pattern =D
only thing now they are old and low on tread rears have bad wear on the inside of the wheel and im actually looking at replacement but i might even stick with the ol Proxes =D

[e240]

Married - don't need no rubber...

[VTi_b0i]

unless u want kids? lol or do u fire blanks from all the rough car racing?

[shmivic]

Type - Potenza RE040
Size - 225/45R17
Price - $400 each
Life span - 8-12 Months
Thoughts - Super quiet, soft, grippy. Generally excellent.

[BiLL|z0r]

I got C-Drives on the Euro and love em. They were $300+ per tyre but will buy em again in an instant. That's on the standard 16" rims.
Type - Yoko CDrives
Size - 215/50R16
Price - $320 each
Life span - 18 -24 months (wife driving, not mine ;)
Thoughts - Excellent and will buy them again when need be. Great around corners and excellent wet grip.

[tony1234]

Brand.Continental Conti Sport Contact 3
Size.225/45/17
Price.Approx.$360/tyre.(i paid $280)
Time frame.15 mths.
Thoughts.Quiet,excellent wet and dry grip,comfy(i run 40 PSI in them),bit overpriced i think,wear quicker than the contact 2s.

[snYpz]

Brand: Yokohama C-drives
Size: 225/40/18
Price: about ~$350 a tyre
Time frame: had them for about 2 months
Thoughts: grippy, comfortable, quiet and surprising soft

[spastic]

Hancook S1's

beautiful.

[BraXta]

haha very funny with the no rubber comments =P hehe

well good people are posting i was hoping this wouldnt flop =P hehe

[aaronng]

Type - Bridgestone RE001
Size -205/55 R16
Price - $660 for all 4 installed and balance
Time frame you have had them - About 2.5 years
Thoughts on the Rubber - Great street tyre for the price. Not the grippiest but great grip per dollar. Been to Wakefield twice and still going strong. I have a second set on my spare rims in storage. :)

[racerwannabe]

+1 for the RE001! Fantastic tyres...the best i've tried so far.

[tknova]

+2 for re001

Running them on the 17's. Paid around $235 a corner from memory.

[Tarquin]

Brand: Falken Ziex 912
Size: 235/40/18
Price: about $800 fitted and balanced
Time frame: Had them around 6 months
Thoughts: Good dry weather perfomance, not at all progressive though when you lose traction you lose traction. Handle the wet ok, FK452's where alot better in that regard, wear seems really good.

[sodaz]

Type - Yokohama S Drive
Size -225/45 R17
Price - $230 each
Time frame you have had them - Approx. 1.5 years
Thoughts on the Rubber - Pretty grippy tyre with good roll stiffness. Very good wear. Not the best in the wet though but much better than the stock tyres. Thinking of trying the RE001 next.

[drezy]

Type - nankang ns2 ultra sport
Size -225/40 R18
Price - $500 all 4 installed
Time frame you have had them - Approx. 6 months
Thoughts on the Rubber - Good budget tyres, still at least 75% tread after 6 months and i drive daily including long trips to country.

[power_of_dreams]

+3 for re001

[tron07]

I will look into Bridgestone RE001 since so many says its good, need to change mine soon. Should I go for a 17" rims upgrade as well or stick to stockies 16"

[Dr P]

Type - Sumitoumo ZIII
Size -225/45/17
Price - $218 each
Time frame you have had them - 3 months
Thoughts on the Rubber - Very impressed on buying relatively cheap rubber for the wifes car they have great traction in the wet and don't squeal that hard either!!!

[insanesam]

Type - Kumho Ecsta Ku 31
Size - 225/45/17
Price - $160 each
Time frame you have had them - 3 months
Thoughts on the Rubber - Good value for money. Sidewalls feel bit soft though . Grips well in wet and dry. Done 5000km looks new still.

[HunterZero]

Type - OEM Bridgestone RE040 @ 36 PSI
Size - 225/45/R17
Thoughts - Decent enough dry grip, but wear is quicker than I would like, and they are noisy on coarser roads. Probably won't replace with the same tire when the time comes. Will look at RE001 Adrenalines or RE050 next.

- J

[Dr P]

Type - OEM Bridgestone RE040 @ 36 PSI
Size - 225/45/R17
Thoughts - Decent enough dry grip, but wear is quicker than I would like, and they are noisy on coarser roads. Probably won't replace with the same tire when the time comes. Will look at RE001 Adrenalines or RE050 next.

- J

I replaced these after 52 000km (from brand new car) thats how good they were. Just waaaay overpriced to buy again!!!

[tron07]

the tire shop I check with dont have re001 at the moment, any other good recomendation?? quiet, grippy and not too expensive.

[revolution]

Have RE001 and they perform pretty poor in the wet. In the dry they are pretty good, but for the price they are, can't complain.

Compared to OEM RE040 they perform ALOT better. The RE040's are even worse in the wet, the VSA would blink like it's a christmas tree.

[Dunky]

Type - Michelin Pilot Preceda (PP2)
Size - 205/55 R16
Price - $180 each
Time frame you have had them - 2 months
Thoughts - quiet, grippy in wet conditions, turns well in corners, side walls may be a bit soft as i had punched one tyre by a pot hole & had to get a new one afterwards

[aaronng]

Type - Michelin Pilot Preceda (PP2)
Size - 205/55 R16
Price - $180 each
Time frame you have had them - 2 months
Thoughts - quiet, grippy in wet conditions, turns well in corners, side walls may be a bit soft as i had punched one tyre by a pot hole & had to get a new one afterwards

What tyre pressure are you running? You might want to increase it to about 36 psi if the sidewall is soft.

[LiL FiLo]

Type: Toyo T1r
Size: 225/50/15
Price: $170 ea
Time frame: 3 months
Thoughts: Always have used T1r, best tyre IMO if you dont want to run a semi. Awesome wet weather grip and semi-slick performance in the dry looing to try R1R next

[power_of_dreams]

Have RE001 and they perform pretty poor in the wet. In the dry they are pretty good, but for the price they are, can't complain.

Compared to OEM RE040 they perform ALOT better. The RE040's are even worse in the wet, the VSA would blink like it's a christmas tree.

depends how hard you drive.
have never had problems with the VSA with any tyres even half bald ones in the wet

[Dunky]

What tyre pressure are you running? You might want to increase it to about 36 psi if the sidewall is soft.

what tyre pressure should you have on the tyres?? cause the recommended ones seem to be a bit flat, but i dont want to blow the tyres or too hard as well. ANY SUGGESTIONS

[shadou]

Type: Bridgestone Potenza G3
Size: 195/55/15
Price: ??? bought with the car
Time frame: 3 years + =D
Thoughts: Pretty decent in the dry, I think it has a great life span but horrible in the wet

[Neesmo31]

Might post in the recent thread - basically peoples opinions on the RE001's vs R1R Toyos. Ive been using the RE001's and love them.

[tron07]

How about Michelin Pilot Sports 2/3 or Pilot Perceda PP2??

I think its going to be expensive.... have to check the price

[Phased]

Might post in the recent thread - basically peoples opinions on the RE001's vs R1R Toyos. Ive been using the RE001's and love them.

RE001's (Known as the RE760 in the US/Europe). Are a good tyre... IF you can manage to get them for a good price... The price for which you would pay in an ordinary tyre shop is simply too expensive. Their tread wear doesn't justify outright grip. They're better than average in the wet and sidewalls a firmer than standard. The bridgestone tyre centre discounts were you can get 16" 205's for below $140 a tyre is good value. I would however put several similarly priced tyres (RRP) ahead of them. Michelin PS2's, Hankook Ventus V12 Evo's, GoodYear Excellence/Eagle F1 A-Sym, Dunlop Direzza Z1 StarSpec.

Don't FORGET Tyre opinion/reviews are VERY subjective. Different driver, car, conditions etc. As long as you stick to a High/Extreme Performance Summer Tyre of a major brand. Grip will be more than sufficient for the street/spirited driving.



How about Michelin Pilot Sports 2/3 or Pilot Perceda PP2??

I think its going to be expensive.... have to check the price

The Michelin Pilot PS2's (rated Best Street tyre of 2009) are quite pricey in Aus. Their retail price doesn't justify the difference between competitive Tyres. They don't wear TOO well either. I got quoted $250 a tyre for 225/45/R17's which was on special from $310 or something. Quite Pricey.

If you're considering the PS2's perhaps consider the Dunlop Direzza Z1 StarSpec, Hankook Ventus V12 Evo's or the Good Year Eagle F1 A-Sym.

I'm getting a set of Hankook Ventus V12 Evo's fitted on Monday ($205ea F&B)... After they're worn in I will test them out and will post opinion.

[kksh]

Type: Bob Jane Xenon Z7
Size: 205/55/16
Price: ??? bought with the car
Time frame: 6 Months
Thoughts: Ok in the dry although it wants to screech a bit at take off. Horrible in the wet. VSA keeps going off. Heaps of understeer with VSA off in the wet.

[d15z1SUX]

advan ad07
195/55/15
came with my wheels
ive had them for about 3 months or 4 months but they have been used alot longer than that before.

sidewalls seemed alot stiffer than my last set which were toyo t1r. alot more confidence in the corners and grips harder in the dry. havent tested the limits in the wet, don't think i want to from what i heard lol. but ppl say they r only OK in the wet.

[sk3103]

Type: Bridgestone RE001
Size: 225/45/17
Price: $225 ea
Time frame: 6 months
Thoughts: Not bad for the price. Good dry grip.

[Neesmo31]

What about Azenis RT615's for street use? It will be between the R1R toyos and the azenis.

[tony1234]

Phased.You sure you're not mixing up prices on the Michelins?PS2 s at $250 a corner is a bargain.I think it's the PP2s that are that price?

[exISeuro]

What about Azenis RT615's for street use? It will be between the R1R toyos and the azenis.

RT615s are probably still my favorite, they only lasted 16000kms before being illegal, Kumho KU36 were worse only lasting 11000kms.

I've had approx 9 different sets of tyres on the car over the past 4 years ... & Toyo T1R = the worst !

[jazzadc2r]

Seems to be mixed opinions on the re001's ? I've got a Pretty well worn set on my car (bought it with them) good dry grip. but a bit vague in the wet. Might replace them with the same thing or go to azenis rt615 ?

[tOniies]

Potenza RE01R's - Semi Slick
Could probably get them imported for under 250 bux?
Handles sick in the dry. Did a round about at 120km/h, no tyre screeching.
Handles good in the wet too, as long as they are warmed up.

[power_of_dreams]

advan ad07
195/55/15
came with my wheels
ive had them for about 3 months or 4 months but they have been used alot longer than that before.

sidewalls seemed alot stiffer than my last set which were toyo t1r. alot more confidence in the corners and grips harder in the dry. havent tested the limits in the wet, don't think i want to from what i heard lol. but ppl say they r only OK in the wet.

is that for your eg or euro?

[Neesmo31]

Hmm cheers, what about the Toyo R1R vs the Azenis RT615's

Id like to give another brand a go, but i do rate the RE001's. I understand that the RT's are going to wear out like a demon.

[zazachang]

Type: Bridgestone RE001
Size: 225/45/17
Price: $225 ea
Time frame: 6 months
Thoughts: Not bad for the price. Good dry grip.
where did you get it on that price?

[ewendc2r]

rt615 get my thumbs up as a progressive tyre -- obviously not R compound territory, but they held up better than a lot of other tyres out there.

The obvious choice everyone should be getting is Advan AD08 -- Nearly R Compound grip without warming them up! I've seen on tirerack.com they have 15" tyres relatively cheap, $180 each or something.. bargain! Anyone wanna do a group buy / get a container i'd be keen.

[d15z1SUX]

is that for your eg or euro?

on my eg... i dont have a euro lol. would be really nice to have a euro as a 2nd car :D

[Phased]

Phased.You sure you're not mixing up prices on the Michelins?PS2 s at $250 a corner is a bargain.I think it's the PP2s that are that price?

Nah. The guys said that they were on special from around $320. Even on special I still couldn't justify it for the type of car a euro is and my conservative driving style, lol.

RATED MY TYRES -- REVIEW

Hankook Ventus V12 Evo's 225/45/R17

Replacing - Good Year Excellence @ F38/R36PSI (Quite a good tyre in dry conditions IMO)

I heard good things about this tyre mainly value for money and in many independant reviews only really came third to the PS2's and the Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star-Spec (what a name for a tyre, lol).

First Impressions... (less than 200kms's)
To be honest... Damn right horrible. The tyres felt relatively soft compared to the Excellence. Straight line stability was good and outright grip felt good (but they were brand new).

Now my largest issue with them was their cornering stability. The front end had average grip and the rear end would just float... like it was suffering from mild aquaplaning. I was VERY bitterly disappointed in these tyres. However, I have a tendancy to look into things.

First thing that came to mind... Over Inflation. That was when I remembered the tyre installer (great/helpful/reliable guy excluding this advice lol) ran them at F40/R40PSI. And told me to run them at this otherwise my fuel efficiency and grip would suffer... I thought it was odd, but... he owns the store and I heard it from several other tyre places... So didn't think much of it.

Went down to my local BP and Changed the tyre back to what I found was optimum pressures with the excellence's. F38/R36PSI.....

No word of a lie... they were completely differant tyres. They felt more responsive/rigid (dispite lower pressures) which I heard is a results of sidewall bulging (over inflation). Outright cornering grip was fantastic. Of course... I don't drive that hard and a standard euro still suffers from understeer. The car gripped fantastic and the tyres a VERY quiet and have great road manners. I couldn't really be happier when it comes down to value for money. The PS2's/Z1's may be marginally better... but no chance they are $50-100+ per corner better... I also prefer them over RE001's even though the RE001's are stiffer/more responsive.

I paid $205 Per corner... Fitted and balanced. (Other quotes were $225 and $235 a tyre).

Rated 8.5/10. Only improvement I would suggest at this price range would be some improvement in responsiveness and road feel. Looking at the tyre I can see a possible explanation. The V12's only have single ply sidewalls. Most performance tyres have 2-Ply Nylon sidewalls.

[tron07]

got some pricing for 16" tires....

RE001 $240
CSC2 $210
Falken 912 $160

[Phased]

got some pricing for 16" tires....

RE001 $240
CSC2 $210
Falken 912 $160

$240 for RE001 on 16" 's?!?!?!?!

Unless you're after a very rare tyre size that is a rip off. I would barely pay that for 225/45/R17's. My dad only paid $230 for 215/40/R17's that was off the shelf no special (only moderate negotiation) and almost 18 months ago.

Try your luck at a Bridgestone Tyre Centre... some tyre places will over quote you on some brands so they can push the ones they make more profit on.

[tron07]

I just call and ask, probably can get slightly better if I press them.

[tron07]

Check with a Bridgestone shop, ER300 for $169, RE001 for $175

From the tire booklet,
-Turanza ER300 got Ride Comfort, Low Noise, Wet Performance, High Performance, Steering Response and Wear Resistance.
-Adrenalin RE001 got High Grip, High Speed Performance, Steering Response and Low Noise.

ER300 looks pretty suitable for me too....

[Blk-Em1]

Brand/Type: Goodyear Eagle F1
Size:225/45/17
Price: 760 the set
Time: 1 year
Rating: Good rubber and not wearing that fast considering ive had them for 1 year and done 10000 km on them. (car is also dumped with natural neg camber)
Grips well through the twisties though I havent had much experience with other tyres as these are the only set I've tried. but overall :thumbsup

[akina]

I've got RT615's, they do wear pretty quick... but the grip is pretty good!

[markJDM]

Brand/Type: Yokohama S.Drive
Size:225/45/17
Price: $1,100 Set
Time: 3 months
Rating: Above average grip and comfortable. Minimal tramlining but braking has increased (longer time to stop) compared my previous Michelline Preceda's. Slightly less grip on the wet as well compared to PS2. Has low tire noise