New paint

[cheapdouchebag]

im a bit worried about how much a new paintjob will cost me
my car's body issent in the greatest condition, small dents size of 5 cents coins and poorly used touch up paint all over the car (absolutely rough effort touching up). and one or two small cracks on the rear fender.

it seems unrealistic but i got a quote from a spare part place the paintjob would cost me about 500-700 bucks including the necessary body fill.

im planning to repaint my car in the same colour.

its a 92civic sedan blue. what do you guys think? how much do you guys would i be looking at

[ekcoupe]

500-700 dam thats cheap for a full respray
i would have said 3000-4000 with that damage

[Mikecivic78]

A 700 buck respray will be craaappp!

check this thread: http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117440&highlight=respray It should answer all of your questions.

If not, do a search, there's more where that comes from.

[cheapdouchebag]

I think its not THAT bad to get up to 3g-4g in price
i took some pictures to show you ther faults in the body work
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc181/mcpattiez/civic%20faults/09022010020.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc181/mcpattiez/civic%20faults/09022010019.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc181/mcpattiez/civic%20faults/09022010013.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc181/mcpattiez/civic%20faults/09022010014.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc181/mcpattiez/civic%20faults/09022010010.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc181/mcpattiez/civic%20faults/09022010009.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc181/mcpattiez/civic%20faults/09022010013.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc181/mcpattiez/civic%20faults/09022010011.jpg

[geeang]

Either way, if 5-700 is including labour, that is a VERY cheap quote.

Workmanship on the other hand....that's a different matter.

For most panel beats/spraypainters the phrase "you get what you pay for" really does apply.

[ekcoupe]

if ur gonna want to get a full respray then it will be around 2-3g
u dont want a cheap job or it wont turn out good and wont last.

good luck mate:D hope everything works out

[INVSBL]

jesus ud be lucky to get the bare materials needed for a paint job for that much.

ur best bet mate is to just go around to all the paint shops in your area and get quotes.

dont bargin, just be honest, your there for a full repray including all prep work.

[cheapdouchebag]

damnit more saving up -.-
ive got a few quotes from mechanics around the area
one bloke will charge around 2g for the job, one was willing to take 1.8g
and one of them wont do it, told me i might as well buy a new car with better paint. (obviously he doesnt understand the demand for jaydeemmmness) or maybe im wrong.

[INVSBL]

most people will say that, and in mostcases unless ur willing to pay for a full strip back and respray, its better to get a car with better paint.

but when u include sentimental value, u cant just buy another car.

[~Sp33~]

I got quoted 10k to redo my car.

After doing it myself, i can see that it's A LOT of work, and definitely worth several thousand dollars.

700$ wouldn't have covered the cost for materials.

The flaws in your paint look pretty minor as well. Most of it would be easily removed with proper preparation for the new paint.

[cheapdouchebag]

thanks for your help everyone, i think im just gunna have to deal with myself putting up with the shoddy paint quality and wait very patiently for the money for a new paintjob, preferably a colour that is easier to work with in customizing than this oem blue that im trying to make the best out of.

cheers

[sxmachine]

if you were in sydney i could do it for 2k and would be a top job

[jckson]

Its really high coast of your civic car because if you are looking for cheap color then it have not quality so after one year of car it will appear very bed condition.

[~Sp33~]

WTH?

lrn2engrish.

[ekcoupe]

haha:thumbsup:

[cheapdouchebag]

i have a new angle.
ive seen this nice colour i wanted and the brand of paint is called dna
http://dna-paints.com
just wondering, is DIY easy with fresh aftermarket bumpers?
is DIY easy overall with this paint? has anyone had experience with this brand of pre-mixed paint.

i have a 2hp air compressor at home with a airbrush tool like this one:
http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/156400_lg.jpg

i had an idea to get ahold of fresh aftermarket bumpers that are black, slap the paint n clear coat n what ever else recomended on, get some second hand fenders and repaint them and then put them on the car, selling the old fenders n bumpers to places like hondaworld or hondwreck. and paint the rest of the chasis. what do you think? ive never painted cars but ive worked with the airbrush before.

[~Sp33~]

I don't think the compressor is going to be up for the job.

Unless you're pro (or don't care) then you'll miss the OEM finish that the stock paint has.

[im.Kusuma]

i love your wing...

My bros old EG got resprayed $1800 incl panel beat. Turned out "ok", rate it 6/10. But if you get it quote for that much, try to find out previous customers who went there and ask for their opinions regarding the result for that amount of price.

Good luck

[sxmachine]

i have a new angle.
ive seen this nice colour i wanted and the brand of paint is called dna
http://dna-paints.com
just wondering, is DIY easy with fresh aftermarket bumpers?
is DIY easy overall with this paint? has anyone had experience with this brand of pre-mixed paint.

i have a 2hp air compressor at home with a airbrush tool like this one:
http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/156400_lg.jpg

i had an idea to get ahold of fresh aftermarket bumpers that are black, slap the paint n clear coat n what ever else recomended on, get some second hand fenders and repaint them and then put them on the car, selling the old fenders n bumpers to places like hondaworld or hondwreck. and paint the rest of the chasis. what do you think? ive never painted cars but ive worked with the airbrush before.

hey mate the brand of paint is good
1.The compressor is way to small, u would have dry spray all through your paint because you would be waitin for it to fill up with air..
2. would not recommend using that spray gun.. get a good gun with the pot on the top, with a 1.4 tip not a cheap one
3. on your bumpers if there new will need plastic primer before you apply the paint or in the future your paint will just start flaking off them..

anything else just ask im a quilified panel beater in the trade for 7 yrs now

[~Sp33~]

hey mate the brand of paint is good
1.The compressor is way to small, u would have dry spray all through your paint because you would be waitin for it to fill up with air..
2. would not recommend using that spray gun.. get a good gun with the pot on the top, with a 1.4 tip not a cheap one
3. on your bumpers if there new will need plastic primer before you apply the paint or in the future your paint will just start flaking off them..

Good info. :thumbsup:

[cheapdouchebag]

hey mate the brand of paint is good
1.The compressor is way to small, u would have dry spray all through your paint because you would be waitin for it to fill up with air..
2. would not recommend using that spray gun.. get a good gun with the pot on the top, with a 1.4 tip not a cheap one
3. on your bumpers if there new will need plastic primer before you apply the paint or in the future your paint will just start flaking off them..

anything else just ask im a quilified panel beater in the trade for 7 yrs now

if i do attempt it to it in the way i planned of course, i will be getting one of them guns that feed paint from the top of the tool them gravity ones or w/e their called.

are you sure the compressor is way to small? because i will be working on spraying bumpers one by one, once a week per bumper or something and then after all that ill attach them onto my car.

also, im not sure how the prime coat is supposed to feel or look like after preping with the sand paper. do you have any close up shots to the grains of the primer? i have a feeling i might do the primer layer too thick, resulting in a rouch crap colour job.

one last thing, how about the old fenders, will i need to prime them if i buy second hand ones?

thanks for your info ive seen my old man do the job before, and he failed thats y im asking. he had crap paint from paintmobile and forgot to mix the colour with the thinner on the first coat and the whole paintjob became like spider webs HAHAHA which totally ruined the smoothness of the paintjob (in my own theory of coursE)


i love your wing...

Good luck

i know right?! cant find them these days on the market besides shoddy imitation ones which have the brake light in place like a round ball going through a triangle slot

[countonjohn]

Another alternative if you trying to paint on the cheap is the roller method with rust-o-leum or equivalent types of enamel paint (i think wattyl killrust is similar and more readily available in bunnings). You basically roll the rust-o-luem on the car with a high density foam roller and wet sand after every coat. And be prepared for ALOT of wetsanding.

The benefits of this method is it is cheaper than the spray cans method, there is less masking involved and there wont be any overspray that messes up your whole garage. The quality of finish depends on the amount of prep work you have put into it. Also no clear coat is required as the paint is relatively durable. And if you ever do get any scratches in it, you just have to wetsand it down and apply another coat. One 500ml tin (20 bucks i think) is enough for I'd say a full bodykit as you have to thin it out 50/50 with mineral turp. Supplies all up (1 can of killrust, foam roller, mineral turp, sandpaper, masking tape, metal primer) would cost not more than 60-80 bucks.

I debadged+painted the boot of my EK in gloss black with this method and the results were pretty decent. I only decided to try this method as the paint on the boot was totally PINK with (originally red) and I figured couldnt get any worse than it already was if I did a shit job. However I wouldnt attempt this if your paint is still in "decent" condition. I have painted a couple of bodykits on my old 180sx before using spray methods so I do have a slightly better idea of body/prep work. Hated the overspray it caused when I painted it in the garage so I tried this method.

Google "roll on rustoleum" and you will prob find heaps of info from other sites. Again, I wouldnt recommend this method if you're not ready to sacrifice your current paint job, and of course it wont be a show-car quality paintjob, but if you do put in the time and effort to wetsand the shit of of the panels, this method does pay off.

[EK9]

i know right?! cant find them these days on the market besides shoddy imitation ones which have the brake light in place like a round ball going through a triangle slot
if u ever plan on selling it, let me know ;)

btw, got anymore pics of your car? looks like an import :thumbsup:

[cheapdouchebag]

if u ever plan on selling it, let me know ;)

btw, got anymore pics of your car? looks like an import :thumbsup:

nah i dont ever plan to sell the spoiler haha i love it to bits cuz it SHlT's all over the audm vti spoilers haha

yeah its an import bit off topic sorry heres a few pics of the car with my 10mp camera, somehow it hides all the imperfections of my paint and a phone one shows it up

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc181/mcpattiez/Eg8%20ferio/21545_321599964464_819644464_484314.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc181/mcpattiez/Eg8%20ferio/21545_321599939464_819644464_484314.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc181/mcpattiez/Eg8%20ferio/21545_321599934464_819644464_484314.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc181/mcpattiez/Eg8%20ferio/21545_321599929464_819644464_484314.jpg
DUDE THESE SPEAKERS SOUND AWESOME FOR AN 18 year old car NEVER REPLACED jdm gathers right thurrr
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc181/mcpattiez/Eg8%20ferio/21545_321599914464_819644464_484313.jpg
i know i know its a shame its auto =[ for now that is
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc181/mcpattiez/Eg8%20ferio/21545_321599904464_819644464_484313.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc181/mcpattiez/Eg8%20ferio/21545_321599899464_819644464_484313.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc181/mcpattiez/Eg8%20ferio/21545_321599884464_819644464_484313.jpg

lookin at these pictures again, to be back on topic, i see blemishes and faded spots up close, but im starting to not wanna paint the enitre car unless it is really beneficial, maybe just do areas that is required cuz i havent got the money right now, only thing is its a pain to keep looking nice. i have to wax it all the time after a good wash -.-.

what do you guys think after seein these pictures?

[xclusive_eg8]

is this a eg9?? or ferio EG8?? cant see the b16 so probs not eg9

[cheapdouchebag]

nah nah its a eg8 missed out by one lol. only thing is i duno how come ppl are claiming their cars as eg8 and dont have the vtec engine, where mine does. think my cars whack or has to deal with the import category

[xclusive_eg8]

yeah i got an eg8 known by the blue badge in engine bay..its got the D15b7

u got the d15b right??

[cheapdouchebag]

yes yes. eats a d16y1 with a little bit of brake torquing haha

[xclusive_eg8]

yep d15b is an import engine..u got lsd and all the goodies...im a bit jelous lol..hows the vtec cross over on these?? thats the only thing lacking on the d15b7, loves to rev though

[cheapdouchebag]

not sure how to compare with other engines, its alright i guess.
i have a lsd tranny? how can i tell? its auto mate.

[tiksie]

hey mate the brand of paint is good
1.The compressor is way to small, u would have dry spray all through your paint because you would be waitin for it to fill up with air..
2. would not recommend using that spray gun.. get a good gun with the pot on the top, with a 1.4 tip not a cheap one
3. on your bumpers if there new will need plastic primer before you apply the paint or in the future your paint will just start flaking off them..

anything else just ask im a quilified panel beater in the trade for 7 yrs now

2HP compressor isn't "way too small" and good results can still be had.

Here is what I achieved with a 2HP and gravity fed:

http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp167/tiksie/UNI_0677.jpg
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp167/tiksie/UNI_0761.jpg
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp167/tiksie/UNI_0766.jpg
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp167/tiksie/UNI_0796.jpg

[~Sp33~]

What is possible =/= what is recommended.

[[Ash CIVIC]]

paint the car yourself ?
it'll be cheaper

[akajonz]

is it the actual paint or labour that cost a bomb?