b18cR modding advice

[davoh]

hi guys, i will soon drop a b18cR into an ek for street and daily use....
I/H/E , clutch and flywheel,brakes and supension mods are definitely going 2 be in...

but before i drop the engine in i would like 2 change the camshafts to the skunk 2 stage 1's.....

what are the necessary mods needed 2 support those camshafts? does the compression needs 2 be lowered and does the block/ head needs to be port and polished??do i need 2 change pistons???

please advice me as im building my car next week....

[IEVAQ8]

dont waste ur money on satage 1 cams, thats my opinion..........

but from what i know, the stage 1 cams can just be dropped in and retain factory head, but unless ur gonna use aftermaket ecu to tune the engine, they will be a waste

[davoh]

yes definitely ecu....am leaning towards hondata

also getting a skunk2 intake manifold as well...

do u guys reckon stage 2 cams??

[IEVAQ8]

if u have stock ITR intake manifold, i would use that, instead of wasting money for a skunk 2 manifold,

and the saving on the manifold, u could go and get urself some very nice toda spec C cams..................thats what i would be doing, and with a hondata s300, good headers, intake and exhaust, u should be a happy man....

[yellows2k]

yeah, i heard skip the skunk manifold as the dc2r is just as good.
its a juggling act trying to piece together the best combo of parts within a budget. what intake and exhaust r u looking at?
basically it boils down to setting a budget, sourcing the best parts with what u have, and then building it.

[davoh]

im getting of a zer0-hundred chamber into an arc induction box....then 4-1 extractors and then the buddyclub spec4.....budget....lets say...i have about 8k to throw into motor mods....

[beeza]

How about a 4.7 FD (final drive) - Think of it as a torque multiplier!

[pure_na]

How about a 4.7 FD (final drive) - Think of it as a torque multiplier!

ah i took it for granted that he had the 4.7 fd. yeh, def get that. i'm pretty sure you'll drop out of vtec each gear change with anything less, i know i did with a 4.4 fd.

[dougie_504]

Just do all your internals. Stage 2 camshafts are more worthwhile, an adjustable camgear also, titaniun springs/retainers, maybe new valves. 3-angle port grind on your valves. After tuning that you'd see some great power gains.

[Perry]

Sounds like your chasing more power. Have you tried driving a stock ek with b18cR engine in it? Try just adding headers, intake and exhaust and ecu tune should be good to go.

[dougie_504]

^
Actually that's probably a good point <lol>

[yellows2k]

Ran a 1.15 over the wend in my ek with b18c7 with hiflow cat and xforce catback. Running worn semi slicks as well. Not even setup properly for track
the boltons and tune will be more than u need for street all the internal work is to wring out more power plus bragging right

[jks24]

As above the stock engine plus good I/h/e will have your ek going like a bat out of hell

[beeza]

Ran a 1.15 over the wend in my ek with b18c7 with hiflow cat and xforce catback. Running worn semi slicks as well. Not even setup properly for track
the boltons and tune will be more than u need for street all the internal work is to wring out more power plus bragging right

Wow,nice one :thumbsup:

[yellows2k]

it was a good time, but honestly, some decent headers, and hondata and tune with new semis should see it crack 1.13

[beeza]

Meh,who cares! Ya out there and doing it!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jks24]

Meh,who cares! Ya out there and doing it!!!!!!!!!!!!

i like this man and you show a perfect example of this with your car :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[beeza]

Thanks Josh!!

The thing is it's a money trap ya know,and for what a couple of seconds,I believe if can 'let go' of that and just focus on having fun,the experience of tracking your car will be FAR FAR greater.

Just a theory :)

[davoh]

roads changed.....couldnt fine an ek for a decent price......will be going for an eg instead....will keep u guys updated on how things go....

[hussLEr]

roads changed.....couldnt fine an ek for a decent price......will be going for an eg instead....will keep u guys updated on how things go....

Don't be disappointed about that!!..

EG's are lighter! :thumbsup: (free power!:cool:)

[dougie_504]

And I think EG's also look a bit nicer too, smoother curves, not to mention if you wanna go B18CR you're more likely to have trouble getting an older engine into a newer chassis with the EK. EG is a little older :)

[beeza]

EG hatch ftw! :)

[NSPYRE]

hi guys, i will soon drop a b18cR into an ek for street and daily use....
I/H/E , clutch and flywheel,brakes and supension mods are definitely going 2 be in...

but before i drop the engine in i would like 2 change the camshafts to the skunk 2 stage 1's.....

what are the necessary mods needed 2 support those camshafts? does the compression needs 2 be lowered and does the block/ head needs to be port and polished??do i need 2 change pistons???

please advice me as im building my car next week....

are u looking at tuner or pro series skunk2 cams? they're worlds apart from each other...

tuner series stage 1 can work off ur oem valve springs and retainers and are fine to run on a standard tune. they're not that aggressive so while u may see some improvement, it wont be a lot.

pro series stage 1 are far more aggressive and should be paired with after market valve springs and a full stand alone ecu. since its ur daily, just use ur steel retainers as titanium ones do tend to wear over time. these cams are designed for the standard power band so imo, these are excellent cams for street and some mild track use.

a quick rule of thumb regarding skunk2 PRO series cams are:

stage 1 - 11:1 compression ratio
stage 2 - 12:1 compression ratio
stage 3 - 13:1 compression ratio

since standard b18c7 is 11:1, stage 1 is ur best bet.

anyway, u submitted the original post a week ago so i guess its all done and dusted. let us kno wat u went with and the results :)

[TypeG]

what is the price for putting cam, cam gear and vavle springs into a B18 roughly?

[dougie_504]

Good parts, paid for and shipped, then installed, you'd be looking at $2000+

[TypeG]

I mean the installation fee

[AXS]

How about a 4.7 FD (final drive) - Think of it as a torque multiplier!

hang on whats the final drive differene of a b18c7 and a jdm 98 spe b18c??? is it the same or similar?

[damienm]

c7 and 98 spec is 4.7
96 spec is 4.4

[AXS]

c7 and 98 spec is 4.7
96 spec is 4.4

sweet that good to know, crossing that one off the list ;)

[sinseven]

just do the i/h/e then tune dont both doing internals yet

[MikeyG]

dude get a b20 block slap that on then go i/h/e with hondata 200 and you will be smiles from ear to ear and less then modding the b18c