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ej20i
13-02-2010, 12:27 AM
hey guys, rain heavily in Sydney tonight
sad news is that my mates car with Injen CAI went over a puddle by accident and now the car does not turn on at all, what is best to do?
tried un-pluggin the battery to "reset" the ecu, no luck
take the Air flow sensor, it is a bit wet (saw a few droplets of water)
whats best to do at this situation?
and most importantly, is the engine effed?

thanks

grifty
13-02-2010, 12:58 AM
does the car crank over??

OMG.JAI xD
13-02-2010, 11:01 AM
Lift the car up. Drain the oil and fill it with new oil.

Crank the motor without starting it (disconnect the spark leads or injectors.) Crank it for about 5-10 seconds. Drain the oil again and put in new oil.
While the leads are out. Take each spark plug out and clean it out. (could be contaminated with water).

Re assemble everything and hope it starts.

It shouldnt have cause severe damage if only a bit of water was sucked up.
But a severe hydraulic lock and damage the engine big time. Snapping belts, bending valves, throwing rods. Unless you heard a big bang, you should be ok.

beeza
13-02-2010, 11:20 AM
^^ Excellent advice!

VTec1987
13-02-2010, 11:24 AM
Did it to my friends car the other day.
Better to remove the sparks, then crank it until you see no water comes out. Rememeber to unplug the dizzy plug.

Car started after i did that.

tiksie
13-02-2010, 11:31 AM
Won't that spit oil everywhere ^

VTec1987
13-02-2010, 11:57 AM
Won't that spit oil everywhere ^

are you serious?

how would oil spit out?

eg5civic
13-02-2010, 01:16 PM
are you serious?

how would oil spit out?

cars run off oil right?

i fill mine with oil not fuel

VTec1987
13-02-2010, 01:25 PM
yeh thats right, but it wont shoot out when u take out the spark plug

grifty
13-02-2010, 01:25 PM
cars run off oil right?

i fill mine with oil not fuel

he means how will oil squirt out if u remove the spark plugs

edit: damn posted at the same time lol

e240
13-02-2010, 01:26 PM
Won't that spit oil everywhere ^

Spark plugs - combustion cylinder, there shouldn't be oil there unless your engine is ferked...

VTec1987
13-02-2010, 01:26 PM
If your saying oil is in there, meaning that your burning oil everyday? Does that sounds right to you?

VTec1987
13-02-2010, 01:27 PM
Spark plugs - combustion cylinder, there shouldn't be oil there unless your engine is ferked...

Thanks you , some noobs in here

e240
13-02-2010, 01:27 PM
cars run off oil right?

i fill mine with oil not fuel

Car's run off fuel and use oil for lubricaion..LOL
lets get techincal! lala!

ej20i
13-02-2010, 01:39 PM
Thanks for all the input guys,
bad news though,
the car cranked and started after 2 hours and was driven home from the city and now the car is knocking
took it to the mech and drained oil and changed sparkies but i guess its too late

VTec1987
13-02-2010, 01:50 PM
any damage?

na-118
13-02-2010, 01:52 PM
lol if oil spits everywher and water think you might have a a problem in your head

fatboyz39
13-02-2010, 03:00 PM
Thanks for all the input guys,
bad news though,
the car cranked and started after 2 hours and was driven home from the city and now the car is knocking
took it to the mech and drained oil and changed sparkies but i guess its too late

Bent conrod most likely. You should of towed it rather then drive it. You've cause some serious damage. Water doesn't combust therefore something had to let go.

If you had follow the above advice then your chances of saving the engine would of been higher, i.e remove spark plug, let it dry, spray some wd-40 down the bores and crank it over.

~Sp33~
13-02-2010, 03:13 PM
Damn there's some noobs in here!

Whoever mentioned to take out the spark plugs and let the water evaporate :thumbsup:

na-118
13-02-2010, 03:59 PM
obviously e mechanics and forum mechanics always right diy

ej20i
13-02-2010, 09:43 PM
Bent conrod most likely. You should of towed it rather then drive it. You've cause some serious damage. Water doesn't combust therefore something had to let go.

If you had follow the above advice then your chances of saving the engine would of been higher, i.e remove spark plug, let it dry, spray some wd-40 down the bores and crank it over.

yup, thats what i told him
o wel damage is done
motor has only done 30K
its a pity actually
insurance it is now

Stig
13-02-2010, 09:51 PM
whatever car it is, k20 swap it

ej20i
13-02-2010, 10:08 PM
Fd1!lol!

eg5civic
14-02-2010, 12:22 AM
Car's run off fuel and use oil for lubricaion..LOL
lets get techincal! lala!

:cool:

internet is a great tool for dry sarcasm

i was taking the piss about the whole oil out of the cylinder thing :p

TODA AU
14-02-2010, 05:40 PM
Sounds more like a blown fuse...
Hydrolocked from a puddle... Pfft
How deep was the "puddle" ? 1 meter?

ej20i
14-02-2010, 05:47 PM
blown fuse?
is it help abl?
or gone skies?

ej20i
14-02-2010, 05:48 PM
water was ankle deep as well

TODA AU
14-02-2010, 05:52 PM
water was ankle deep as well
Hydrolock is unlikley then

curtis265
14-02-2010, 05:52 PM
Ouch, subscried for good info though.

Find a crashed FN2R :)

aaronng
14-02-2010, 08:00 PM
blown fuse?
is it help abl?
or gone skies?

Check the fuse boxes. You manual should tell you where it is located. There might be more than 1 fuse location. Be careful not to short the contacts with metal objects while you are looking in the fusebox.

~Sp33~
14-02-2010, 08:04 PM
Sounds more like a blown fuse...
Hydrolocked from a puddle... Pfft
How deep was the "puddle" ? 1 meter?

Blown fuses cause rod knock now?... Pfft.


T...driven home from the city and now the car is knocking...

TODA AU
14-02-2010, 08:23 PM
Blown fuses cause rod knock now?... Pfft.
LOL, I missed post 15... (fair comment - that what you get for skimming through so many B/S replies)

So what ever it is, it's likley fatal, but I still doubt ankle deep water is the culprit.

~Sp33~
14-02-2010, 08:24 PM
LOL, I missed post 15... (fair comment)

So what ever it is, it's likley fatal, but I still doubt ankle deep water is the culprit.


Haha. :thumbsup:

ej20i
15-02-2010, 12:14 AM
id say, the driver was accelerating thru the puddle hence the sucking up of the water
but insurance claim will be done in these couple of days once get the confirmation from Honda, he's taking the car to Honda 2moro!
o well skies

Limbo
15-02-2010, 08:42 AM
i've drive thru ankle deep water with my CAI down low and no issues.

I agree with adrian, unless your car is drinking water, doubt its hyro locking.

i've even put my filter back on wet and its never caused me any problems.

Also on another point, if you have a CAI i think you may have insurance problems as its an aftermarket adjustment. Better put on the stock system before they reject u

ej20i
15-02-2010, 08:48 AM
yea we've put the stockies back on it
the car is making a knocking noise now
and it stalled after went thru the puddle
what could it be?

beeza
12-07-2010, 01:08 PM
U watch the news and stress,don't U?!

LOL

blkmgc
02-08-2010, 05:41 AM
Is not even funny:eek:

Just had something similar happen to me about 2 weeks ago.

Hit a puddle which was had swamped half the road, didn't check the depth but couldn't have been much deeper than an ankle.

Car stalled and wouldn't restart. Towed it in, woke up then next morning, pulled plugs, cranked, changed the plugs and started her up. Hooray!!

Was missing bad, puffing out steam, which lasted for about 10 minutes... eventually subsiding and car revving cleaner. Took it for a drive, all seemed well except for a really small miss in the lower rev range.

Got the engine nice and hot, then parked it up to try and let the heat totally dry out the engine bay. Then took it for a drive again about 4 hours later...

Got the oil temperature up, then went for a blast 1st, 2nd, top of 3rd about to change then, just the sound of metal bashing and lots of little clinks and clunks swiftly followed by a wave of flames engulfing my back windscreen for at least 10 seconds. Managed to put the flames out:thumbsup:

Conrod through the block...

Moral of the story@: Watch out for those puddles:mad:

curtis265
02-08-2010, 09:59 PM
holy epic story bro

~Sp33~
03-08-2010, 10:30 AM
Sounds like someone didn't change their oil after letting water sit in their engine.

kccord
03-08-2010, 01:10 PM
Water doesn't combust therefore something had to let go.

Fixed

Water does not compress therefore something had to let go

Samm928
03-08-2010, 01:44 PM
Thanks for all the input guys,
bad news though,
the car cranked and started after 2 hours and was driven home from the city and now the car is knocking
took it to the mech and drained oil and changed sparkies but i guess its too late

car knock = bent conrod. keep driving it
and you'll get this..
1.blown conrod.
2.blown piston
3.blown cylinder wall
4.blown valves
5.blown head

why...i know? because i been there not too long ago =)

3AM
06-08-2010, 12:37 AM
Moral of the story@: Watch out for those puddles:mad:

moral of the story... dont run silly intakes :P

blkmgc
06-08-2010, 03:16 AM
car knock = bent conrod. keep driving it
and you'll get this..
1.blown conrod.
2.blown piston
3.blown cylinder wall
4.blown valves
5.blown head

why...i know? because i been there not too long ago =)

Also just noticed I got a cracked gearbox housing!! Its going to be interesting stripping the motor down.

to sp33: I don't think changing the engine oil in my situation would have made a difference... once the conrod bends its bent

blkmgc
06-08-2010, 03:17 AM
car knock = bent conrod. keep driving it
and you'll get this..
1.blown conrod.
2.blown piston
3.blown cylinder wall
4.blown valves
5.blown head

why...i know? because i been there not too long ago =)

Also just noticed I got a cracked gearbox housing!! Its going to be interesting stripping the motor down.

to sp33: I don't think changing the engine oil in my situation would have made a difference... once the conrod bends its bent:eek:

~Sp33~
07-08-2010, 06:43 PM
Also just noticed I got a cracked gearbox housing!! Its going to be interesting stripping the motor down.

to sp33: I don't think changing the engine oil in my situation would have made a difference... once the conrod bends its bent

You said it was revving fine, and then it started sounding like metal on metal. If the connecting rod was bent to start with, it wouldn't have been revving fine. Sounds like the water that was in your engine sank past the rings and into the oil. From what i heard water doesn't lubricate too well which builds friction, metal on metal, rod through the block.