Vti-R Wanted, Help...

[Vvvtec]

Another little piece arrived today :)

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1391.snc4/164395_10150122181415011_628000010_8279311_4005423 _n.jpg

[Mikecivic78]

Get that ITR sway bar & ASR in there bitch!

Also, it's a good easy DIY. No excuses.

Nice colour ASR.

[Aperture13]

cooool wanna know how does it go after the intake install.. (as i'm saving up for one now) XD

[act_gooner]

Let us know how the Intake Manifold went as I have heard a lot of different opinions :D

[newpaddy3]

I think he got it installed today.

It's heaps wet up hear, so should totally roll his car into a big puddle... I mean, no way, I'm his mate, I wouldn't do that...

We'll make a video showing throttle response and performance ect. Except we don't have any before footage... anyone have a stock DC2 and want to donate some time?

[Vvvtec]

It is currently in the garage...

I will let everyone know my impressions after the drive home :)

[Vvvtec]

Ok, it's been a while since I last posted an update...

Since I last posted, I have:

-Fitted the Injen CAI + Skunk2 Intake Manifold
-Snapped my knock sensor in the process :/
-Bought a JDM ITR 23mm Rear Sway bar

The sway bar just arrived like 5 minutes ago, DAMN! it's solid! :D I have my ASR kit ready, so that is ready to all go on together. Hopefully this weekend if Pat wants to help me lol. And thanks Mike, yeah apparently it's some limited edition hence the unique colour.

As for the new intake setup: VERY happy with it. The Injen CAI alone was money well spent. It's very noticeable in the top end. The change to a single-stage manifold has also been very good. I really can feel that it's breathing much easier and it builds revs easier. It's a good feeling when it pulls harder and harder closer to redline. Next on the list after coilovers will definitely be some good quality header.

For those considering/wondering if the Intake + Manifold option is worthwhile, I can give you a firm YES. I myself was pretty skeptical about the manifold mostly, I read abit about people saying I would lose lots of power down in the low/mid range. Sadly I've only driven the car at like this for a couple days, as i'll explain further on. Here is what I can say from real-life, personal experience:

Pro's:
-Much more haste to reach higher revs when you give it some
-Car is a whole heap more responsive above 2500rpm, pedal feel is very nice
-It's definitely quicker (no, it's not just the sound making me think it's quicker. I can feel there is more power)
-VTEC crossover remains very smooth, but once in VTEC, it really takes off.
-The stock intake is so twisty and just looks so restrictive. It's a good feeling knowing your motor has a plentiful supply of fast flowing cool air.
-Fuel consumption is better. I'm not joking.
-Last but not least, who can go past the sound of VTEC through a CAI? The sound is incredible, it literally screams it's nuts off above 5000rpm. Not to mention the sound of single-stage crossover, it's just soo good. It's also nice to be able to hear the engine ticking away, it's almost like the larger intake chamber amplifies the noise of the engine ;)

Con's:
- Yes, there IS a slight flat spot in power just after VTEC crossing over, from 4600-5500rpm. I'm guessing this is due to the fact that the stock tune was for the completely different OEM manifold. The stock ecu has VTEC engage at 4600rpm. I'm guessing that if it was higher, at say 5500 or 6000rpm, this wouldnt happen. Personally, i'm not bothered as Hondata + a tune is on the way for me.
-Yes, there is a little less response down very low in the range, i'm talking <1500rpm here, nothing really to be worried about. This is inherent with the CAI.
-It's so LOUD! Not that I see that as a negative though, some might but. Just be aware lol...
-It's a CAI. You have to be careful of those deep puddles.
-Be very careful during installation of your knock sensor. Due to the deletion of the Dual-stage Butterfly setup, there is a plug that is let unplugged as the butterfly system is deleted with this new manifold. This plug is on the same wire as your knock sensor. Somewhere along the line, I've stretched my loom (specifically the cables attached to the knock sensor) and pulled/snapped the knock sensor right off. Be careful if you do this, Honda ask $260 trade price for a new one. I luckily found one from Adrian at Toda for MUCH less than that. But yes, with no knock sensor you will get a CEL and after doing the DIY paper-clip OBD scan, I found it was code 23, so I looked in the bay and found my sensor just hanging by the cable. Once that CEL comes on, goodbye performance lol. The ecu has started retarding my ignition, therefore making the car annoyingly gutless. This should be fixed by next week though, and it shouldn't do any harm to your motor.

That's my honest opinion of this combination. It is VERY worthwhile, I myself consider it money well spent. The knock sensor issue is of my own making, so it's not really a negative of the doing the swap, it can be avoided with care.

What may interest some is that I am currently still using the stock VTi-R throttle body! Unfortunately I didn't have the foresight to realise that the Type R TB I was planning on putting on opens the other way of the VTi-R one. To install the bigger throttle body you will need:
-Long Throttle cable from pretty much any other B/D series. The B18c2 one is very short due to the unique intake manifold design on this enginem, and the ITR TB requires a different mounting point and bracket. I will elaborate on this later when I post up some pics. But yes, back to the point that i'm still using the smaller throttle body. I think that after switching to the bigger one I should expect even better throttle respnse and maybe if I'm lucky even a bit more in the top end.

I can't really think of much else other than that... I've driven through a couple QLD storms and I havnt had any problems with the Injen yet lol, although I am alot more mindful of deeper puddles now. And apart from the knock sensor issue which bugs me, I'm very very happy and satisfied with the gains from the parts i've added. I can only imagine how much better it would be with a good tune though...

Next on the cards is installing this sway bar. After that, I have BuddyClub N+ coils on the way and then once I have abit more to spend I will start looking for some quality headers.

Any questions, just ask! I'm happy to answer :) Thanks!

[Mikecivic78]

Yea man, install the sway bar before the cruise next weekend. You got endlinks and bushings yet ? It'll make the GC cruise much nicer in the twisties.

Springs and shocks next for me. Maybe Koni Yellow and Eibach Pro or sportline.

[tiah313]

time for a pic of the bay =) or a video

[Vvvtec]

Yea man, install the sway bar before the cruise next weekend. You got endlinks and bushings yet ? It'll make the GC cruise much nicer in the twisties.

Springs and shocks next for me. Maybe Koni Yellow and Eibach Pro or sportline.

Yeah I intend to Mike. Really keen for this drive. I have everything, even new endlinks, all brand new oem items from Honda Japan (thanks Yonas and JDMyard for that).

And sure thing Jono, pictures and a video or two are definitely on the way :D

[jks24]

text me tomorrow if you are installing sway bar etc

[Vvvtec]

Cool, I'm planning on doing it tomorrow as Sundays my day off this week.

[Vvvtec]

Time for some pictures :)

Stock Engine bay:

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OEM Manifold

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs266.snc6/179427_10150128987935011_628000010_8375891_1954124 _n.jpg

Overall

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs742.ash1/163474_10150128988120011_628000010_8375894_4282702 _n.jpg

[Vvvtec]

OEM Manifold:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs250.snc6/179883_10150128995405011_628000010_8375977_6466349 _n.jpg

Open butterflies:
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Closed butterflies (6000rpm onwards):
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs280.snc6/180860_10150128995270011_628000010_8375974_2711894 _n.jpg

New Intake setup:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs796.ash1/168649_10150128996860011_628000010_8376003_1939234 _n.jpg

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My knock sensor (green plug) *this should be in the block*:
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http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs749.ash1/164050_10150128995725011_628000010_8375986_3404717 _n.jpg

Best DIY ever lol:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs896.ash1/180435_10150128995485011_628000010_8375979_5158448 _n.jpg

[tiah313]

very clean bay =)
need to bling up ur interior too, dc2r cf console dash, bride seat nardi steering =)

[Mikecivic78]

very clean bay =)
need to bling up ur interior too, dc2r cf console dash, bride seat nardi steering =)
Agreed. Type R interior is so much better than DC2.

[Vvvtec]

Oh my god.

Just went for a drive in a mates EP3R.....B-series belongs in the bin... K-series is UNBELIEVABLE...

I know that sounds bad, but the K20a is such an incredible motor, in rock stock form.

Hmm I dont think that was the greatest idea... Now I want K power :(

FML.

[Vvvtec]

And thanks :) Whenever I wash my car (every second week) I got through the engine bay too with a cloth.

And yes, I also agree, type R interior is much nicer. It's on the list eventually

[GSi_PSi]

have you been in a ITR ? when i went in both i felt they were about the same powerwise ep3r vs dc2r, ep3r had more torque though
then again torque will make a car feel faster, my xr6 feels faster than my dc2 b20, but is it ? hell no , same as my mates
monaro feels so quick but i can get him at least a car length

[Vvvtec]

No, unfortunately I havnt had the opportunity to ride in a DC2r.

I take back my comment about B series engines. I was just over excited and a tad bit drunk lol, add to that the fact that my car is in limp mode and slowwwwww at the moment it just exaggerated the speed of the Ep3r I think. It was still damn quick though, for a fully stock car. I am still very impressed.

But after hopping back into my car, I'm more motivated than ever. It's stil a quick car, and it's a real buzz to drive. Love it :)

[Mikecivic78]

Oh my god.

Just went for a drive in a mates EP3R.....B-series belongs in the bin... K-series is UNBELIEVABLE...

I know that sounds bad, but the K20a is such an incredible motor, in rock stock form.

Hmm I dont think that was the greatest idea... Now I want K power :(

FML.

no replacement for displacement as they say. Unless you boost it. I love ej20 turbo. Now that is addictive, but you exceed the speed limit way too quickly. I guess that is the problem with the WRX.

[Vvvtec]

Yeah that's true mate. I guess anything reasonably powerful combined with a turbo is going to exceed the limit quickly haha

[Vvvtec]

ASR and 23mm sway bar went on yesterday... I'll do a bit of a write-up in a bit.

But first impression is WOW. Definitely the best bang-for-buck mod I've done, and probably can do. When carrying some speed into a corner, the car feels like it's turning on a pivot. The front just goes where you point it and the back just pushes you round the corner. Forced oversteer is also quiet fun :)

[KC.]

hey dude can you get some more pics up for your car! i'm liking the thread too.

[Vvvtec]

Thanks dude :)

Yup Ill hopefully have a stack more photos up tonight sometime.

[sneakygreek]

Nice find bro, now i am looking for the same type of thing as you. Amazing how QLD has shit cars and NSW, Vic, etc have much better and cheaper, WHY QLD!!!

Look at this cheap baby

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=9949104&__Qpb=true&Cr=8&__Ns=pCar_Odometer_Single|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32|1 ||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0&keywords=&__N=1216%201282%204294965322%204294965105%20410%20 4294922435&SearchAction=N&silo=1011&PriceTo=410&seot=1&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&trecs=47&__sid=12BB64C7D631

[act_gooner]

^^Surely something wrong with it!

[Vvvtec]

Thrashed. Extremely thrashed I'm guessing. And neglected. Probably blows smoke. And I seriously doubt those are the original km's on that DC2R cluster.

Looks nice though!

[Vvvtec]

Thrashed. Extremely thrashed I'm guessing. And neglected. Probably blows smoke. And I seriously doubt those are the original km's on that DC2R cluster.

Looks nice though!

[tiah313]

is it a b18c7?? colour looks lyk a b18c7. but i thhink is just a repaint, car looks good from the front, just test it out first

[newpaddy3]

is it a b18c7?? colour looks lyk a b18c7. but i thhink is just a repaint, car looks good from the front, just test it out first

It is not a B18C7, have a look at the IM to tell the difference.

[Vvvtec]

Yeah, inverted intake manifold gives it away

[sneakygreek]

Is it facelifted version?

[act_gooner]

Any Integra that is year 98+ is facelifted mahhn.

[sneakygreek]

Can any1 Post some pics comparing the facelifted and on face lifted version

[tiah313]

go on carsales or google, and search, prefaceliift have a smaller pair of heaedlights and bumper is slightly different, the rear bumper is also different, other than that its the same thing

[newpaddy3]

The lights are the same size, the lights and bumper are just moulded differently.

[tiah313]

my bad =P

[Vvvtec]

The front lights are also slanted back a bit more, the side mirrors are different too. Other than that, yeah same thing.

And yes, this is a facelifted model.

[sneakygreek]

I like The Pre facelift Front Bumper and the Newer rear bumper, looks mean

[Vvvtec]

14mm stock sway bar...
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs790.ash1/168023_10150133861465011_628000010_8446335_7872982 _n.jpg

Much better...
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1360.snc4/163215_10150128988260011_628000010_8375895_4129679 _n.jpg

All fitted :)
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs794.ash1/168431_10150133861670011_628000010_8446338_3524960 _n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs799.ash1/168994_10150133863205011_628000010_8446343_4591629 _n.jpg

[tiah313]

loving this thread =D

[Vvvtec]

loving this thread =D

Thanks heaps man :) I'm really loving modding! Adding each piece at a time, you can really feel the difference it makes!

[infurNOS]

nice builld..makes me wanna do up another civic lol...how is your idle after installing the IM?

[Vvvtec]

nice builld..makes me wanna do up another civic lol...how is your idle after installing the IM?

Thanks :) Idle is just the same as with the stock manifold. Pretty happy, I was expecting some idle hunting, but it's all good.

[Vvvtec]

For old times sake...

This was my EG... Loved that car so much. And I kept it immaculate!

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs774.ash1/166471_10150133986785011_628000010_8448394_3200561 _n.jpg

[newpaddy3]

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[act_gooner]

Silver Integra's look awesome imo.

[KC.]

where are these pics of your full car!!!! haha

looks good but, got the ASR on my shoppping list too

[tiah313]

get rear pod, side skirt, visors, front lip and dump it.
and a good exhasut muffler maybe j's racing or spoon

[Vvvtec]

Silver Integra's look awesome imo.

They do indeed :) Thanks


where are these pics of your full car!!!! haha

looks good but, got the ASR on my shoppping list too

Haha Ive got some coming just for you man! May even get a couple more snaps tomorrow.


get rear pod, side skirt, visors, front lip and dump it.
and a good exhasut muffler maybe j's racing or spoon

Definitely on the cards. Next up is colour-coded type R front lip and side skirts + visors. As for exhaust, I think I may start with headers. Also dont want anything really loud.

[Vvvtec]

4x4 spec:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs800.ash1/169026_10150125915849254_729789253_7679058_1681987 _n.jpg

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[jeremydawg]

sexy!!! smack the coil overs i n soon and post some more pics!!!

[KC.]

^ agree'd would look so sweet with the itr lip and sideskirs + lowered 2 or so inches.

this thread makes me want to get more mods onto my dc2r.

headers + full j'sracing exhaust
s300 ecu
hsd coils untill i find something better
new discs and pads and a few more suspension goodies!

[Mikecivic78]

Sway bar makes a difference, don't it? Nice pics.

When you dump it, put on a lip. Then colour code skirts and lip. One of the reasons I chose EM1 was because it's got 'em both.

Don't like the gold badging tho'. I've never been a fan. Looks tacky IMO.

What tyres you running? Any plans for wider rims/tyres?

[KC.]

yeh bowss debadge!

[Vvvtec]

^ agree'd would look so sweet with the itr lip and sideskirs + lowered 2 or so inches.

this thread makes me want to get more mods onto my dc2r.

headers + full j'sracing exhaust
s300 ecu
hsd coils untill i find something better
new discs and pads and a few more suspension goodies!

Headers and Exhuast are coming up soon for me too! Then Hondata... How's the J's Racing exhuast? Is it notoriously loud?


Sway bar makes a difference, don't it? Nice pics.

When you dump it, put on a lip. Then colour code skirts and lip. One of the reasons I chose EM1 was because it's got 'em both.

Don't like the gold badging tho'. I've never been a fan. Looks tacky IMO.

What tyres you running? Any plans for wider rims/tyres?

MASSIVE difference. Like I think I meantioned before, it's the best bang-for-buck mod I reckon you can do. it's so much nicer and pointier through the turns.

I really dont know what Honda were thinking when they decided to leave the skirts un-colour coded. But I should have a an OEM lip on the way soon enough, and once I do it will all be painted. And don't worry, I dont particularly like the gold badging either. I'm tossing up between either

This
http://chicaneculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/honda_badge.jpg

Or this
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSxa4mLaRcawc-TjqnY_jV6GXcc8bjyj5F1nHiZrxvW4sEPjwAa&t=1

As for tyres, just running cheap chinese shit that the was put on prior to me buying. brand new, but just cheap. Definitely planning on going bigger. Im loving these Konig's right now...

http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j390/JDMWheelImports/wideopen.jpg

Not sure i'll be able to pull off 8" wide though without some gaurd work...

[Vvvtec]

Very random, but I accidentally took this photo today as I was getting out of my car. Came out kinda cool...

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs242.snc6/179029_10150136012320011_628000010_8476760_7789586 _n.jpg

[jeremydawg]

Headers and Exhuast are coming up soon for me too! Then Hondata... How's the J's Racing exhuast? Is it notoriously loud?



MASSIVE difference. Like I think I meantioned before, it's the best bang-for-buck mod I reckon you can do. it's so much nicer and pointier through the turns.

I really dont know what Honda were thinking when they decided to leave the skirts un-colour coded. But I should have a an OEM lip on the way soon enough, and once I do it will all be painted. And don't worry, I dont particularly like the gold badging either. I'm tossing up between either

This
http://chicaneculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/honda_badge.jpg

Or this
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSxa4mLaRcawc-TjqnY_jV6GXcc8bjyj5F1nHiZrxvW4sEPjwAa&t=1

As for tyres, just running cheap chinese shit that the was put on prior to me buying. brand new, but just cheap. Definitely planning on going bigger. Im loving these Konig's right now...

http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j390/JDMWheelImports/wideopen.jpg

Not sure i'll be able to pull off 8" wide though without some gaurd work...

There the wheels i wanted to get, they look sick aye!? i asked the guy, they cost $950 for 15s. B-bomb ones look cool too.
I think the black honda badges would look pretty cool!

[tiah313]

ill will say silver honda badge or debadge

[KC.]

haha that was my shopping lit.

i've heard the j's racing, it's not too loud but if you're giving it some the vtec is gonna start screaming.

sounds really good.
and performance reviews i haven't heard anything bad

[Mikecivic78]

I reckon de-badge it. It'll look gangsta.

Actually, I just de-badged the front of mine the other day, but mine was easy as, since it was just screwed to the grill. It gives it the EK9 look.
http://i55.tinypic.com/akaebs.jpg

Tyres wise, get rid of the chinese crap, it would be downright dangerous in the wet. Brett,Timmy and I are all running T1R Toyos. Great bang for buck tyre. Actually when I got 'em I wanted RE001s but they were too exxy.

Nice looking rims, but don't go larger than 16" IMO

[Vvvtec]

Looks the goods. Unfortunately de-barging is not an option for me. Both badges are 'plugged' into the body.

Yup, might actually keep to 15's if I can find them. As for tyres, I've heard good things about Toyo's. Personally I'm going to go for the RE001's.

[tiah313]

go t1r, re001 is overated

[Vvvtec]

What's the price difference?

[sneakygreek]

Soz for going OT, but its better than opening another thread. I found a Type R

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=10041435&__Qpb=true&Cr=2&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal1pCar_RankSort_Int321pC ar_Make_String0pCar_Model_String0&keywords&__N=1216+1282+4294965322+4294965105+410+900&silo=1011&PriceTo=410&seot=1&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&trecs=29&__sid=12BB64C7D631

Guy said will do for 12.5k, only because it doesnt come with a RWC, apparently NSW cars dont need Roadworthy to get Regoed? he said its pretty much 100% Roadworthy would just need to jack up the coilovers, what yous think. Also are Type R's more expensive for insurance, like by much?

[Vvvtec]

Nice! I remember this car from when I was searching for my Integra...

Like I mentioned before man, any seller who is confidant in their car will get a RWC, no matter if it's needed or not. Honestly, it's only $75. If he's so tight, say you'll give him $12,575 then. That way you know for certain that it will pass roadworthy and the guy isn't just trying to pass on problems.

Some people will probably think I'm abit OTT about little stuff like that, but come on man you have to agree with me, if someone says they're car is '90%' certain to pass road worthy they'll get off their arse and do it. Unless he's an un-motivated seller and wont do shit.

As for the car itself, just skimming across the pics it looks good. But any car can look good in pictures. You dont know when they were taken, could be 10 year old pictures already. Just go look at it. Hell, pay for petrol and I'll drive you down there myself to have a look at it!

Any questions you have about a certain car can only be answered by going and looking at it. For all we know, it could be an absolute gem!

[sneakygreek]

I thought Roadworthys were around $500?

[Vvvtec]

I thought Roadworthys were around $500?

LOL who told you that???

$75 mate.

It's getting it up to roadworthy standard that can cost alot of $$$. That's what I said before though. If the seller is confident in the car they will get the RWC because they know that it will be cheap. Someone who isn't keen on gettig RWC for you knows that the car has problems that will have to be fixed ie: costing THEM money.

[sneakygreek]

He said hes 99% it will pass, apart from the Ride Height, in which it has coilovers so can just wind them up, maybe he thinks thats to hard to do?

[KC.]

vvvtec, i'm gonna be looking to sell my unichip piggyback ecu once i get a hondata standalone ecu (got to wait on my boss to see if he can get me a decent one from j-land) u interesed?

[Vvvtec]

vvvtec, i'm gonna be looking to sell my unichip piggyback ecu once i get a hondata standalone ecu (got to wait on my boss to see if he can get me a decent one from j-land) u interesed?

Thanks man! I'll probably be going Hondata myself

[Vvvtec]

Got a small clip from today... Out driving on an awesome mountainy road near my place...

For all the people who wonder/are skeptical about how loud/powerful the Injen Cold air intake sounds, this is for you... Also for the guys who drive DC2's, watch this. This shows you the difference between the 'snail' stock VTi-R Intake Manifold and the Skunk2 manifold. MASSIVE difference in both response, power and sound (1.22 will tell you everything) Take a look :) EVERYTHING (apart from manifold and Intake) is 100% stock.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guQmbM5Fd1A
(For those wondering, NO, I was not speeding, 100km/h limit. Also I do not thrash my car, this is me 'giving it some'... notice my granny shifting and double-clutching lol. Thanks goes to Jeremy (aka 'jeremydawg' for his filming haha)

[Vvvtec]

Haha watching this video again... Bloody hell Qld's insects are loud ;) Sorry for the sound quality, the sunroof + both windows were open. It was so hot today.

Comparring to this, nothing beats a cold winters-night blast...

[GSi_PSi]

cant really hear the cross over? sounds like a gsi lol but really it does.... are you running stock ecu? tune it with a proper ecu then you will really hear it crossover properly. VTiR ecu will still think you have the dual stage and make you have a retarted crossover. The proper gains will be met when you do ECU + a camshaft upgrade...
you need to adjust your vtec crossover point, my cousin ran a ITR manifold on a B18C2 ecu and it used sometimes kick in at 4500prm sometimes 5500rpm but i can tell you it ran like shit was really slow but after he properly tuned it , it sounded amazing.

[Vvvtec]

Yeah dude...

Stock everything including ECU... crossover is at 4600rpm all the time everytime.

Im going Hondata + Tune. Crossover would more suit 5500-6000rpm for sure...

Goes well as it is, can only imagine how much better it would be with full headers + exuahsut and computer and tune...

B18c2 gearbox is wayyyy too long

[GSi_PSi]

Well with headers, exhaust and ecu+tune you will feel massive increase in power. The B18c really comes to life , stock wise honestly it feels like an average car. If you can source out at least ITR camshafts or CTR with dual springs on the exhaust side. Will make the car so much easier to pull to redline. B18C2 gearbox gear ratios is quite long , but you can always mix and match with a s80/y80/s4c gearbox to get gearsets individually provided they work with the fd and LSD you have or are installing or you can do it the easy way and wack in a ITR box and sell off your current one

[jeremydawg]

dayum!! i like your grizzly bear. So true, when you get your headers and exhaust and a tune it will sound awesome! Did i tell you i charge $150 for filming crossovers?

[Vvvtec]

Well with headers, exhaust and ecu+tune you will feel massive increase in power. The B18c really comes to life , stock wise honestly it feels like an average car. If you can source out at least ITR camshafts or CTR with dual springs on the exhaust side. Will make the car so much easier to pull to redline. B18C2 gearbox gear ratios is quite long , but you can always mix and match with a s80/y80/s4c gearbox to get gearsets individually provided they work with the fd and LSD you have or are installing or you can do it the easy way and wack in a ITR box and sell off your current one

Thanks for the advice :)

Yup I'm looking at buddyclub spec III's, nothing too aggressive, just something that will give me more punch in the midrange. Also seriously contemplating the Kiddracing headers. I've only read good things about them, and for $600 they sound alright. Can't really justify spending $1k+

Gearbox is also in my plans, trouble is finding one in good nick for a reasonable price! My current gearbox is absolutely beautiful, feels new. Second gear is just too long for my liking, I'd love an ITR one with LSD...

[infurNOS]

cant really hear the cross over? sounds like a gsi lol but really it does.... are you running stock ecu? tune it with a proper ecu then you will really hear it crossover properly. VTiR ecu will still think you have the dual stage and make you have a retarted crossover. The proper gains will be met when you do ECU + a camshaft upgrade...
you need to adjust your vtec crossover point, my cousin ran a ITR manifold on a B18C2 ecu and it used sometimes kick in at 4500prm sometimes 5500rpm but i can tell you it ran like shit was really slow but after he properly tuned it , it sounded amazing.

why are people so fussy about a VTEC crossover? you dont really want to be hearing the crossover point because it means you are losing too much power. My engagement is at 3800 and there is no noticeable engagement at all...but the power delivery is so smooth its unbelievable...

[DC2-PWR]

I reckon vtec sounds bloody sexy man. sounds raw.

cars going to plan alex, whats next on the list?

we need to catch up soon.

[Vvvtec]

why are people so fussy about a VTEC crossover? you dont really want to be hearing the crossover point because it means you are losing too much power. My engagement is at 3800 and there is no noticeable engagement at all...but the power delivery is so smooth its unbelievable...

^^This!!

[newpaddy3]

Yeah dude...

Stock everything including ECU... crossover is at 4600rpm all the time everytime.

Im going Hondata + Tune. Crossover would more suit 5500-6000rpm for sure...

Goes well as it is, can only imagine how much better it would be with full headers + exuahsut and computer and tune...

B18c2 gearbox is wayyyy too long


why are people so fussy about a VTEC crossover? you dont really want to be hearing the crossover point because it means you are losing too much power. My engagement is at 3800 and there is no noticeable engagement at all...but the power delivery is so smooth its unbelievable...


^^This!!

Then why did you say you would want to tune your car so that crossover is at 5500-6000rpm?

It's a genuine question.

I'm just a little curious why would would only want to be able to engage VTEC for 2500-2000rpm?

When you change up a gear would you not drop out of engagement?

[Vvvtec]

I was actually agree on the point of why do people make such a big deal about crossover, not where it's at. I don't care about where it's at aslong as the power is there.

That's not the point of this though. I just wanted to post a video just showing how the car sounds and performs with the intake and manifold. When I get the motor tuned, the tuner can worry about crossover point.

I get what your saying though :)

[GSi_PSi]

why are people so fussy about a VTEC crossover? you dont really want to be hearing the crossover point because it means you are losing too much power. My engagement is at 3800 and there is no noticeable engagement at all...but the power delivery is so smooth its unbelievable...

His running a ECU which is thinking he has twin butterflys, with a singlestage manifold.
Your statement is invalid because at the moment he has B18C2 Camshafts and its vtec engagement is relatively loud with a CAI , you cant really smooth out the vtec that well unless you have aftermarket camshafts... you probably have Buddyclub spec 3's? which the vtec is quite smooth. Also your intake and exhaust is also in question, if you have a loud ass exhaust you wont be able to notice your vtec. Im talking from experience, but you are right in saying that once a car is tuned the vtec is less noticeable because when i first had my engine built untuned the vtec engagement was heaps loud then when tuned it went slightly quieter, but with a CAI and quiet exhaust it still is loud.

[Vvvtec]

I reckon vtec sounds bloody sexy man. sounds raw.

cars going to plan alex, whats next on the list?

we need to catch up soon.

Thanks man! Sounds great in the car, always makes me smile :)

Immediate plans are:

-Buddyclub coils are a week or two away.
-Straight after coilovers are installed I will get some good headers, cat and exhaust.

Once I/H/E is completed, next stage is:

-Cams and supporting bits and pieces
-Hondata
-Tune.

That's it. In between all of that I will get other little things, for example i really want an ITR steering wheel lol. Also deciding on what wheels...

When I have some time we'll go out and do that Integra shoot with Pat and his legendary camera/skills :D

[infurNOS]

Your statement is invalid because at the moment he has B18C2 Camshafts and its vtec engagement is relatively loud with a CAI , you cant really smooth out the vtec that well unless you have aftermarket camshafts... you probably have Buddyclub spec 3's? which the vtec is quite smooth.


im running stock c2 cams, which makes your statement invalid. My non VTEC cam stopped making power at 3800, so it makes sense to engage the VTEC cam at that rpm..maximising torque and power, Since the engine isnt producing any power on the idle cam. Engaging the VTEC AS SOON as the idle cam stops making power means the power difference when switching cam profiles is almost none noticeable, hence creating a minimal VTEC crossover point and the smoothest power delievery. Therefore, Who said you need after market cams?

Q.E.D.

BTW Vvtec..awesome vid..cant wait to see the finished product :D

[Vvvtec]

Vvtec..awesome vid..cant wait to see the finished product :D

Thanks man :) Can't wait myself, looking at Kiddracing headers next up, they seem to have a great reputation.

And I appreciate your input too mate, good to be able to speak to someone who's gone down the same path themselves. Cheers!

[pablos8]

Good to see you're still going strong :):)

I really miss my teg :( wish I never sold it lol

[Vvvtec]

Yeah dude, i'm loving this car! What you got now?

[pablos8]

I went to a b20vtec delsol and got an EJ8 b16 now, looking to go 2 wheeler :)

[Vvvtec]

I went to a b20vtec delsol and got an EJ8 b16 now, looking to go 2 wheeler :)

Sweet! B20vtec must have felt like a monster compared to the B16!

[Vvvtec]

Clay bar'd my car for the first time ever today...

Wow, what a difference it makes! Not only is the paint amazingly smooth, it's as clear as glass! For those who are a bit iffy about whether or not its worth the money, I gaurantee you it is! I used the Mothers kit. Money well spent! It did more than any wash and wax has in the past.

[jeremydawg]

^^^ Im with ya on that one bra!

[Vvvtec]

Got a few more bits and piece's in the pipeline... Watch this space

[Vvvtec]

Yay these finally arrived :D

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/198154_10150162974350011_628000010_8773257_2793532 _n.jpg

[jeremydawg]

dayum, lookin forward to seein the teg finally slammed!
Cool toes too man, sexy

[sneakygreek]

How muchy they set you back? everytime i see coilovers makes me wanan buy a set

[Vvvtec]

How muchy they set you back? everytime i see coilovers makes me wanan buy a set

They're not cheap man.

Check out 999 Auto and JDMyard for prices though.

[89lude]

I've got skunk2 tb, got a b16a box if you want closer ratio box. i've got itr lca's too if you need a pair to run your coils, i got visors too. got goodridge braided brake lines. spoon rep mirrors too. hit me up if you want anything.

[Vvvtec]

I've got skunk2 tb, got a b16a box if you want closer ratio box. i've got itr lca's too if you need a pair to run your coils, i got visors too. got goodridge braided brake lines. spoon rep mirrors too. hit me up if you want anything.

Your a beast :D

I'm 100% keen on the skunk2 tb, that's probably one thing that's right at the top of my list actually. Gearbox I'm also very keen on! I've already got ITR lca's sorted from newpaddy, he's hooking me up. I'm also really keen on the visors. They genuine or just copies?

If you can pm prices for your stuff man that'd be great :)

[act_gooner]

I vote photos when the coilovers on installed.

[jeremydawg]

yeah, i want photos too. Soap the car and your body up and show some skin

[newpaddy3]

+1 for soapy t-shirt pics.

I mean installed coils...

j-dawg! You're no longer red!

[jeremydawg]

Yeah mang, a moderator offered me good rep in turn for a favour... My block might not be red now but my asshole certainly is

[DLO01]

Is this a WTB thread or a Build thread? If you want a build thread you may want to start another one as theres too much WTB posts and chit chat in here. Closed.