CR-Z Type R

[wynode]

Looks like this might be the answer to the critisism about the CR-Z needing more pizzaz (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126342&highlight=crz). Can't say I'm a big fan of the back though.



http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/../gallery/data/500/crzr.jpg



The front-wheel drive layout and six-speed manual gearbox will remain, but expect the naturally-aspirated 1.5-litre engine to be cranked up to around 150bhp (110kW) and mated to a larger 50bhp (36kW) electric motor. The combined output of 200bhp (147kW) will move the Type-R into serious performance territory with a 0-60mph time of close to six seconds, three seconds faster than the 122bhp (89kW) CR-Z, and a top speed of 140mph (225km/h).Full article from AutoExpress here (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/248239/hondas_new_crz_type_r.html).

[Snoop_gee]

its good ur focus is on the CR-Z more and more wynode :)

[wynode]

I also try to focus on news :)

The Type R version sounds more enticing. The biggest question though for me is what the weight is like.

[bboyzell]

Very Exciting, now if only i could afford it -_-

[burak213]

weight would be around 1000 to 1150 since its 6~ seconds to 100.

looks sweet

[newpaddy3]

wow this car is awesome, and people were complaining that the cr-z wouldn't have enough power

[redefine]

i would still prefer the subbie ft-86

[anaesthetics]

wow this car is awesome, and people were complaining that the cr-z wouldn't have enough power

Maybe because it didn't?

[OMG.JAI xD]

Shouldve made it an awd with electric motors driving each axle. Like the bmw concept.

I hope honda releases the hsv-010 for the market.

[denot]

Hmmm the CRZ will be around $20k mark right? how much do you think this will cost? the same as CTR?

[curtis265]

i LOVE this.

[SHU-ES1]

looks awesome! good to hear they are bringing out a more powerful version of it too!

[cheapdouchebag]

duno why ppl saying cr-z is ugly, even if u dont like the looks, im sure it will grow onto you. the 08-09 series civics werent loved by me but now i like em haha.

this car will rock, welcome back super honda stock hatchies :D

[qstoria]

All well and good but its really nothing to write home about I dont think. 6 seconds to 100? just too slow. what market are they aiming for here really?

Its a greener cooler looking more modern version of the current civic type r and thats all. Give it a 2 litre motor and had minimum of 220bhp then thats a start. More like 240 and a kerb weight of a tonne and then they would have something new to market :)

Hell if they did that they could even start attracting some new customers or better still, get some loyal fans interested in one of their sports cars again

[curtis265]

6 seconds to 100? not that slow....

You're missing the point of this car. Marketable hybrid cars are new to the market, with only what, the prius and civic available? :S..

Anyway, my point is that this is something completely new to the market - it's a fuelmiser that makes 200hp... an insanely fast hybrid... a insanely fast marketable hybrid.

[anaesthetics]

All well and good but its really nothing to write home about I dont think. 6 seconds to 100? just too slow. what market are they aiming for here really?

Its a greener cooler looking more modern version of the current civic type r and thats all. Give it a 2 litre motor and had minimum of 220bhp then thats a start. More like 240 and a kerb weight of a tonne and then they would have something new to market :)

Hell if they did that they could even start attracting some new customers or better still, get some loyal fans interested in one of their sports cars again

6 seconds is too slow what the hell? You make it sound like it needs to be the next NSX.

[denot]

LOL!!!! 6sec from 0-100 is super fast for a $20k-ish hybrid car!!!

[wynode]

6 seconds to 100? not that slow....

You're missing the point of this car. Marketable hybrid cars are new to the market, with only what, the prius and civic available? :S..

Anyway, my point is that this is something completely new to the market - it's a fuelmiser that makes 200hp... an insanely fast hybrid... a insanely fast marketable hybrid.

Exactly. 6 seconds is fine for this car. The big factor is going to be price. If manufacturers want to market hybrids then the best way to do so is combine them with decent performance. Even Mitsu might be going this way with the Evo XI

[qstoria]

LOL!!!! 6sec from 0-100 is super fast for a $20k-ish hybrid car!!!

For 20kish its a different story sure. Zero change from 40k at best id say.

To me its frustrating because Honda could build a faster car that could tempt people away from wrx and evos etc but they dont do it nor do they seem interested in doing it.

This will be similar speed to the current civic type r only greener which is great, dont get me wrong, but personally id like to see something that would really stand out performance wise and on top of that if its green and all that then that is even better.

[curtis265]

Well, as sometimes in life, you have to be the bigger man, and stop bickering with the others in an endless battle.

i.e. thres no definitive wrx > evo or evo < wrx

[denot]

For 20kish its a different story sure. Zero change from 40k at best id say.

Kinda true.. I just hope that the price will be under or around $30k mark (not the type R model off course :))

[Snoop_gee]

For 20kish its a different story sure. Zero change from 40k at best id say.

To me its frustrating because Honda could build a faster car that could tempt people away from wrx and evos etc but they dont do it nor do they seem interested in doing it.

This will be similar speed to the current civic type r only greener which is great, dont get me wrong, but personally id like to see something that would really stand out performance wise and on top of that if its green and all that then that is even better.
agreed :cool:

[qstoria]

Well, as sometimes in life, you have to be the bigger man, and stop bickering with the others in an endless battle.

i.e. thres no definitive wrx > evo or evo < wrx

Sorry im missing the relevance of your post here.



agreed :cool:

I thought you might!


I just want a faster car and I have no doubt Honda could build one. Thats all!

[hengis]

actually there is..
evo was always >wrx

stock, modded or heavily modded the evo was always a better performance car =)

evo and gtr...now there's more of a comparison

but this is anothe subject for another thread, on another forum


Well, as sometimes in life, you have to be the bigger man, and stop bickering with the others in an endless battle.

i.e. thres no definitive wrx > evo or evo < wrx

[curtis265]

Sorry im missing the relevance of your post here.

Sorry, i meant that competing in a little rat race isn't going to get anybody anywhere...

You're not going to really get any revolutionary technology like that.

[cheapdouchebag]

honda's generally imo have a different approach compared to subaru, nissan, holdens etc. thats what makes people on this site take pride in what they own even though they know its not the fastest.

at most times, honda's always one step ahead of everyone going in a different direction
take the asimo robot for example
and before that turning their f1 winning cars into a sports car like the nsx.
maybe the cr-z's opening the market into a new era in hothatch.

disagree with me all you want, but i still believe im right.

[Snoop_gee]

I just want a faster car !

u already do ;):D

[qstoria]

haha well I mean I want Honda to build a faster car! Then I might buy it!

[curtis265]

Yeah it's just the different outlook they have to ther other companies, that's all. Why compete when it's not going to lead to some kind of innovation award and mass sales of 'revolutionary technology'?

[JOhnnyFD]

we are all oldskool car enthusiasts

the new generation of car enthusiasts r definitely gonna be going into hybrids, electric, fuel cells or wateva

sooner or later we "oldtimers" r all gonna be jumpin on board

[denot]

not for the Type-R, but this is amazing!
http://www.mugen-power.com/automobile/products/CR-Z/

[sw4444]

Want a Type - R but... I cant wait that long so will get a CR-Z stock I suppose and sell it on!

[Tai]

Thread is 2 years old.

[sw4444]

Thread is 2 years old.

And the CR-Z has jsut come out, what's your problem?

[sw4444]

we are all oldskool car enthusiasts

the new generation of car enthusiasts r definitely gonna be going into hybrids, electric, fuel cells or wateva

sooner or later we "oldtimers" r all gonna be jumpin on board

You are on the money here, I would predict tweaked CR-Zds and thier Ilk will be the new hot hatch, drifting, sub woofer cars to go to.

[u mad?]

ugliest fukin car i swear to god, i don't the appeal at all.

[Mugen_B16B]

looks like shit imo aswell

[hondapop]

X3, so glad there are those with some taste.

[Tai]

Not too sure why you would even want to turbo such an ugly car.

[Grayfox]

we are all oldskool car enthusiasts

the new generation of car enthusiasts r definitely gonna be going into hybrids, electric, fuel cells or wateva

sooner or later we "oldtimers" r all gonna be jumpin on board

Before that happens we will try making our own petrol, then we may convert our cars to electric so we can have new classic.


I should start saving if I want to convert my FK2 to full electric when the time comes, i just love it too much


Not too sure why you would even want to turbo such an ugly car.

It is not that ugly, but that is your opinion.

Some might say the DC2R is ugly others may not everyone has their own opinion on things.

[_CRX_]

Even if a dc2r was ugly it wouldn't mean shit....with a dc2r it's all about performance and handling not how it looks...Tell me what the Crz has to offer other then it's 40k price tag

I'd rather be driving a 15 year old dc2r then a crz

[hondapop]

Those of us who want to retain Honda's good times can always look into the LPG option. (and before someone says you can't use it in Honda's engines, they did build CNG engines for the US market)

[Snoop_gee]

Even if a dc2r was ugly it wouldn't mean shit....with a dc2r it's all about performance and handling not how it looks...Tell me what the Crz has to offer other then it's 40k price tag

I'd rather be driving a 15 year old dc2r then a crz


exactly wat this guy said. :P

i will get one thou just not a brand new.
Maybe a demo model.

[hondapop]

exactly wat this guy said. :P

i will get one thou just not a brand new.
Maybe a demo model.

You shouldn't have to wait too long mate, 'bout 12 mnths I reckon, will have devalued about 50% by then.

[gumus89]

You shouldn't have to wait too long mate, 'bout 12 mnths I reckon, will have devalued about 50% by then.

Lol, do you even resale value?

Typical resale values are around 60%. That means that after three (3) years, they will be 60% of the new price.

[dougie_504]

He's joking dude. Just saying its a let-down of a car lol

[curtis265]

Lol, do you even resale value?

Typical resale values are around 60%. That means that after three (3) years, they will be 60% of the new price.

internet sarcasm didn't work i take it?

[hondapop]

internet sarcasm didn't work i take it?

Guess we'll have to wait and see. eh.

[Foxx]

What an ugly thing.... I see people driving this piece sh1t (THE BASE MODEL) not the TYPE R and I'm like........ WHY..........! The EF9's, EG5's, EK's was the best shapes. Then you've got your DC2's for pure performance and handling. Honda has really lost the plot here. fcking YUK - This thing is so ugly, I would want to slap the fools driving the base model and the fools thinking about buying the Type R!!!!

[butterfingers]

we are all oldskool car enthusiasts

the new generation of car enthusiasts r definitely gonna be going into hybrids, electric, fuel cells or wateva

sooner or later we "oldtimers" r all gonna be jumpin on board

nah i doubt it.

maybe one day but not in my lifetime. and im 20

[Foxx]

nah i doubt it.

maybe one day but not in my lifetime. and im 20


Spot on buddy

I am 31 and I am sticking with old skool cars - fck the new skool - ugly space looking craft. Honda has let me and their fans down big time.

[butterfingers]

Spot on buddy

I am 31 and I am sticking with old skool cars - fck the new skool - ugly space looking craft. Honda has let me and their fans down big time.

Honda Australia to be precise

cos apparently no one in aus wants n/a vtec pocket rockets anymore

**** off what about me?

[curtis265]

Honda Australia to be precise

cos apparently no one in aus wants n/a vtec pocket rockets anymore

**** off what about me?

as opposed to what? the k24 civic si?

you present a tiny market share. and most people who love these old vtec machines aren't really keen on buying new cars anyway

all about dem cashed up grannnies nowadays

[butterfingers]

as opposed to what? the k24 civic si?

you present a tiny market share. and most people who love these old vtec machines aren't really keen on buying new cars anyway

all about dem cashed up grannnies nowadays

i was being sarcastically self-centred, im aware that me and the 100 other ****s in cabramatta represent a tiny market share for honda.

personal import it is.

[curtis265]

Right, i see.

you forgot to use a sarcasm tag at the end of your post

[butterfingers]

ma bad dawg

[Glocker]

I would buy a written off one for cheap on pickles and put a K20 in it. This is what it really needs.

[Foxx]

I would buy a written off one for cheap on pickles and put a K20 in it. This is what it really needs.


At last........ someone is talking real sense.

[brody]

I'm only 21 and there's nothing to be 'enthused' about the new Hondas. Yes the accords are a NICE car, the civics are reliable and the crz is green but there is absolutely nothing exciting about driving one. Yeh a turbo spooling is a nice feeling.. but there's something about vtec and squeezing as much power out of that 4cyl n/a motor as you can. It's delicious.

[Glocker]

http://performancedrive.com.au/2012-honda-cr-z-sport-review-video/

a little review from me

[interfooler]

Moar power for the 2013 cr-z.. mmmmmm...

http://www.forcegt.com/news/2013-honda-cr-z-gets-new-facelift-and-power-increase/

[dougie_504]

11kw. Well it could be worse. Glad they're at least listening to criticism.

I wonder what the electric boost button feels like lol

[curtis265]

11kw. Well it could be worse. Glad they're at least listening to criticism.

I wonder what the electric boost button feels like lol

http://celebritieshype.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Paul-Walker-4.jpg

[Jasemas]

That S button for that 10 seconds of power lol? Really? Ive got on... Least mine stays on til i turn it off haha
But seriously, power doesnt look like much 'gain'

[dagher23q]

looks good, will be pretty unique , interesting to see how they fair against a dc5 or ep3

[butterfingers]

looks good, will be pretty unique , interesting to see how they fair against a dc5 or ep3

fkn no chance, designed to be a completely different car

[curtis265]

looks good, will be pretty unique , interesting to see how they fair against a dc5 or ep3

not sure if serious