DC2R Gearbox

[sokkie23]

Wondering if anyone can help me...

My mechanic reckons i need a new gearbox...

anyone know if its worth rebuilding current gearbox or better getting a new one?

I have heard the oem gearbox is best for the type r but anyone care to comment on other options?
if so... where is the best place to buy one?


cheers

its a 2000 model dc2r

[tOniies]

rebuild the gearbox and chuck in a KAAZ lsd. Worth rebuilding it i reckon, a new one cost too much.

[sokkie23]

thanks... but ive heard its not much more expensive to put in new one or second hand one?

[VTec1987]

new one gonna cost u a arm and leg, not easy to fine one

u can find second hand one on here for around 1500-2000
check for sale thread, i remember someone selling it

[vinnY]

what's wrong with the gearbox first?
depends on his definition of rebuild, change of bearings is relatively cheap compared to say new gearsets/synchros

[WA-EG]

surely rebuilding is cheaper than trying to find and buy new.

sorry to hijack a little, whats the difference between ITR box and VTi-R box? Is it all internal or are there external differences?

Also, t0niies, i thought type r box was LSD already?

[VTec1987]

yeh all type r boxes are LSD
type r box has shorter gears then the teg vtir

[WA-EG]

yeh all type r boxes are LSD
type r box has shorter gears then the teg vtir

sooo shorter ratios and higher final drive?

[VTec1987]

yes thats right, but depending on which type r box ur talking about as well

[WA-EG]

yes thats right, but depending on which type r box ur talking about as well

well i've got a '96 vtiR motor in an eg. wanting lsd so just trying to figure out options.

[VTec1987]

Integra Vtir gearbox has very long gears
U can get ur self M factory lsd and 4.9fd, that would juice up ur gb
or get your self a type r box

[FallenAngel]

thanks... but ive heard its not much more expensive to put in new one or second hand one?

as vinny has asked, whats wrong with yours?

I just rebuilt mine, i only had to change the ISB and put in new synchros because gears 1,2,3 were crunching at high revs

[sokkie23]

It makes a crunching noise when shifting into 4th gear... and occassionally when shifting into 1st gear... but my mechanic reckons it needs replacing? so i dunno exactly what is wrong with it... he keeps saying its "noisy" but i have no idea what he is talking about...

[WA-EG]

It makes a crunching noise when shifting into 4th gear... and occassionally when shifting into 1st gear... but my mechanic reckons it needs replacing? so i dunno exactly what is wrong with it... he keeps saying its "noisy" but i have no idea what he is talking about...

to buy a whole new box seems a little extreme. could just be that synchros are had it so you get the cruching. have heard honda boxes are quite strong so would be surprised that actual gears (cogs) are stuffed. perhaps grab second opinion. as small rebuild would be much cheaper than new box.

[tOniies]

WA-EG, replacing the LSD will save you money. What happens if the old diff dies? Then you would have to rip apart the gearbox again, labour for that is too expensive. Want to rebuild your gearbox, might as well put in a new lsd instead of a shitty old one.

[WA-EG]

WA-EG, replacing the LSD will save you money. What happens if the old diff dies? Then you would have to rip apart the gearbox again, labour for that is too expensive. Want to rebuild your gearbox, might as well put in a new lsd instead of a shitty old one.

You make a good point.

Can I ask, does anyone know what it costs to rebuild a box? Not replacing cogs, just synchros and seals.

[WA-EG]

1 million dollars.

he he cause that helps.

Bueller.... Bueller...... Anyone... Anyone??????

[Neesmo31]

Most mechanics who say you need a new gearbox are generally playing with your doodle.

I rebuilt mine recently and it cost around $300. It was slipping out of 3rd, and i had a worn trust bearing. Did all checks of tolerances, clearances etc etc and everything was still in factory spec. I did replace all main bearings though while i was in there.

But the main thing is if it aint broke, dont replace it - everything inside my gearbox was in very good condition. Prolly cos i putt around, very rarely am i shifting gears at anything higher than 4k.

[IEVAQ8]

very rarely am i shifting gears at anything higher than 4k.
then u shouldnt be driving an ITR................lol ;)

[Neesmo31]

Lol, im just girlying it around these days.

[zropts]

well if ur gearbox crunches, it can also be that ur clutch is worn out... or your clutch plate is cracked therefore crunching also happens... you really need to take the gearbox out and have a look... it might just be the clutch and you might just need to get that replaced.

To rebuild gearbox with parts and labour will cost $1000-$1500. Better to buy a 2nd hand ITR gearbox (96 spec 4.4 g/ratio or 98 Spec 4.7 g/ratio) which is worth $1500 these days.

[FallenAngel]

To rebuild gearbox with parts and labour will cost $1000-$1500. Better to buy a 2nd hand ITR gearbox (96 spec 4.4 g/ratio or 98 Spec 4.7 g/ratio) which is worth $1500 these days.

I dont think thats a good idea... Reason being is that if you do get a second hand gearbox, how do you know that everything inside is all good. The seller may say so but what if it isn't. This would cause even more problems, even if you could get your money back, you'd be back at square one.

Rebuilding the gearbox is probably the best option, as you know (or will know) what needs to be changed and you can have the confidence that the gearbox (once rebuilt) will last you for a long time. The only way to find out is to take the gearbox + clutch out to find out...

[WA-EG]

then u shouldnt be driving an ITR................lol ;)

just means he'll be driving his around for a lot longer when the rest are broken.

[FallenAngel]

You can also consider this as i just saw it.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128087

Up to you tho

[vinnY]

^ that's only an lsd plus first and second gear, half way to a new gearbox :p

[IEVAQ8]

just means he'll be driving his around for a lot longer when the rest are broken.

not true mate.....there is a difference between abuse which leads to brakage, and spirited driving, they way it was built to be driven....

[lookingforboost]

pretty sure honda designed the Type R to be have a bit of ... "spirited driving in mind" in the design i highly doubt using it to its potential will break it ;)

[IEVAQ8]

pretty sure honda designed the Type R to be have a bit of ... "spirited driving in mind" in the design i highly doubt using it to its potential will break it ;)

thank you.....

[Neesmo31]

Hell yeah. Big difference between abuse and using something to what it has been designed for.

[Lepperfish]

I drive my car hard and soft and it and the gearbox run like they did since coming out of the factory. When I read posts from people that say they have busted their gearbox or engine I think what the **** have they done to that poor car to **** it up so much.

I don't think I am lucky with my car. Maybe I just respect it more then fan bois..

[Neesmo31]

Yeah. Cars are a interesting breed - some hold on forever and some need constant work. Im all about preventative maintenance and putting around. lol. Im very pedantic the way i drive.