Anyone dyno run there dc2 vti-r??

[denrie]

if you have dyno'd your car.. kindly please post up what u have gotten...

- if the car is stock- it would help me out much more..
- If you have mods please list down the mods..

if you can upload the dyno sheet to proove it would be awesome..

thanks in ADVANCE GUYS :)

[Vvvtec]

Im also keen to see what stock and modded vti-r's are putting down

[koevi]

My 94 Integra Vti-R with:

-Spoon 4-2-1 Headers
-JDM High Flow Cat
-Mugen Twinloop

-Short Ram intake with Pod

Made 101kw ATW

[Vvvtec]

Stock intake?

Thats pretty impressive!

[tct]

My 98 Integra Vti-R with:

-JDM 4-1 Headers
-2.5inch High Flow Cat
-5zigen catback
-skunk2 intake manifold
-stock box with K&N filter

Made 109kw ATW

with a custom turbo kit i made 180kw atw on 10psi

[Webby_roller]

my stock vtir... had 220,000 km on when dynoed...

stock except for cat-back system

94kw atw

[G-Stick]

my old vtir

cai
mugen 4-2-1 headers
mugen exhuast
vafc2

109.9kws

[bennyv]

i got a 97 vtir dynoed stock at 97kws
and with a apexi vtech controller and a hks intake and air filter
got a 118.something. thanks to the boys at rev zone

[denrie]

Thanks to all the replies guys!....

well i ran a 93.2 stock at Toda racing Australia!

i would love to know more stock vtir's :)
thanks :P

[fabian0]

stock: 89kw atw
i/h/e, vafc2: 106.6kw atw

[denrie]

anyone else guys... im sure theres more =]

[SiReal]

Slightly different,

Stock AUDM DC2R
Apart from J's racing whale ***** intake.

A miserable 99.7kwatw.

JDM DC2R with full exhaust ran 118kwatw on the same dyno.

[DC2-PWR]

Hi people,

AUDM DC2 VTiR 1997, stock with mugen muffler doing 96.3kw atw.

There are some real nice numbers here.

[androo]

Don't feel too bad SiReal!

I had a friend who had an AUDM Type R - had a K&N short ram intake and catback exhaust system - Dyno'd it and almost started crying:

102kw atw

Anyway I'm liking the number's some of these VTi-R's are putting out! Especially since our cars are all over 10 years old and they're still putting out good numbers!

[denrie]

thanks for more numbers guys.... anymore.... im really interested!

[Wazza]

1994 VTi-R

-Toda Header
-JDM ITR Cat
-Mugen Twin Loop
-Injen CAI
-Hondata ECU

116 Kw ATW

[OMG.JAI xD]

I had a 98 vtir 225xxxkms

js racing tsuchinoko intake
tri-y headers custom longer collector/straightpipe/2.5" exhaust
vafc2


105fwkw. TODA DYNOdynamics dyno.

Couldve made more if 2 pipes on the headers werent dinged in.

[Premature Vtec]

1994 VTi-R

-Toda Header
-JDM ITR Cat
-Mugen Twin Loop
-Injen CAI
-Hondata ECU

116 Kw ATW

Wow, thats good, how much did those toda headers cost seems like they did you well

[joe.teg]

95 vti-r

178 thousand ks

-type one racing headers
-2.25 inch custom catback
-injen cai

108.9 fwkw

planned work

-blox cams
-skunk2 1mm oversized valves
-blox springs etc
-blox cam gears
-hondata s200

hoping to get 125+ fwkw

[Vvvtec]

95 vti-r

178 thousand ks

-type one racing headers
-2.25 inch custom catback
-injen cai

108.9 fwkw

planned work

-blox cams
-skunk2 1mm oversized valves
-blox springs etc
-blox cam gears
-hondata s200

hoping to get 125+ fwkw

**** yeah let me know how that goes!

[DKS51R]

1996 JDM DC2R
-Mugen CAI
-Tanabe exhaust
-?Mugen ECU

120.6fwkw

[Samm928]

dc2 vti-r 96"

hondata s100
skunk2 tb + im
injen cold air
random 421 headers + RMO1A catback

112kw atw.

ran a 14.4 at eastern creek.

[chubby steve]

makes u think y buy a dc2r wen u can get a vtir with the same power and 4 less
ive got a vtir just rebuilding now havent driven it in 2 yrs miss it heaps

12.6 comp pistons, forged rods
stage 3 crower cams, springs retainers
arp studs all round
spoon exhaust, xforce headers and cat

still need computer lsd and itb's hoping 2 run it in wen i get my license bak lets c wat numbers i get

[will13]

I don't have a Vtir, but I have a B18C2 in my EG, and it pulled 89.7kw with just a cheap ebay intake and a 2.25" press bent catback, on a scorching hot day.

[Super-DA9]

yeah you gotta take into account things like the air temperature on the day it's done can change your output quite easily. also I've read that different dynos usually come up with different results. :S

[dougie_504]

Not B18 I know but I just wanted to join the fun :D

EF8 CRX

Standard/unopened JDM B16A

I/H/E consisting of:
OEM intake arm with ghetto metal extension for CAI
RS*R 4-2-1 header 2" outlet
Stock cat
2" press bent/mild steel cat-back
5Zigen muffler

99.4kw ATW

30~ odd degree day, lots of other participants making 'normal' readings.

Did a leak-down test later and found out the engine was making pretty much new compression at 98,000 genuine KMs :)

[mugen_ctr]

yeah you gotta take into account things like the air temperature on the day it's done can change your output quite easily. also I've read that different dynos usually come up with different results. :S

correct, dynos shouldnt be seen as a good solid measurement, each dyno varies, some maybe by 20% compared to others, dynos are nothing more than diagnostics an tuning tools, but often give a indication of the power of the vehicle, to gain true value of a engines power, you will need a engine dyno, which is taken off the flywheel....

But alot of the figures seen is quite impressive, makes me think in the future mite just drop in a vtir motor instead of ITR cause of the price

[GSi_PSi]

dyno run my dc2 long time ago
121.5kw with stock intake 4-1 headers, 2.75inch catback but thats a b16/b20 engine

[_bORdO_]

when mine was stock the dyno read 91.9kw @ 140xxx kms

[koevi]

dc2 vti-r with i/h/e 103kw

[danny_2132]

98 vtir

n/a b20

154.4 fwkw
http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/danny_2132/SCAN0041.jpg

[Super-DA9]

Max 109.6kw at 8300RPM

'95 DC2 VTi-R

BCIII+ Cams
ITR Valvesprings
2.25" Xforce headers/cat/exhaust
Hondata S300

not a massive improvement on the MAX figure from before cams and tune, maybe gained 14kw? but low and mid range gained a fair bit as apposed to before and a really good torque increase. but holy sh*t the power curve is straight as! there's like no kinks in it like before, which is the real upside of the BCIII's I guess, and you can really feel the power just keep picking up as you go higher in the RPMS. VTEC crossover is not very noticeable sound-wise, which is good as I've read this means the transfer point is perfect.

do keep in mind this is with stock intake and manifold only with a K&N in there, and stock injectors, so it's not really getting the air/fuel it need to get the most out of the cams. this will be MUCH improved when I get the rest of the bits for my ITB setup. (injectors, pump, FPR and a bunch of fittings and it's ready to go)

I might post up the dyno graph when I get a scanner hooked up to my computer lol :)

[GSi_PSi]

98 vtir

n/a b20

154.4 fwkw
http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/danny_2132/SCAN0041.jpg

Thats crazy power man ! good results. what is the setup mate?

[danny_2132]

forged bottom, bigtubes, highflow cat, 60mm catback, 68mm tb, blox b cams, cam gears, gears, cai, fuel reg, fpr... 6-7 months of suffering :D

[GSi_PSi]

now would you ever go back to a b18 again :) ?
thats great result for toda dyno, as its a pretty accurate one.
any plans for 1/4 mile?
what compresssion on the bottom end and piston type ?

[danny_2132]

might go wsid tomorrow night...
not sure on the compression 85mm toda.

[mooshie]

made 104.4 JDM B18C (SiR) ages ago really bad exhaust which probably lost me power and a hot air intake.

[MM89]

JDM B18C SiR - i/h/e & s300 = 113.1kw @ toda

hoping to get a little more next month after some changes and retune.

[DC2-PWR]

JDM B18C SiR - i/h/e & s300 = 113.1kw @ toda

hoping to get a little more next month after some changes and retune.

What I/H/E did you have? Brand names. please share,

113.1 seems pretty low b18c2 with i/h/e tuned with s300

[MM89]

injen cai, j's racing header, j's racing 60rs Ti

seems pretty normal to me considering what others are getting??

[Vvvtec]

Stock manifold and throttle body? Because I'm sure there's a bit of power in there to be unlocked :)

[DC2-PWR]

injen cai, j's racing header, j's racing 60rs Ti

seems pretty normal to me considering what others are getting??

My mates VTiR with I/H/E ran nearly 110KW.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7dEWTpd6FI

Probably just different dyno or something

[MM89]

yeah. stock im and tb. will be using toda 50mm itb next year on my all motor build.

i thought it was a pretty normal figure considering:


1994 VTi-R

-Toda Header
-JDM ITR Cat
-Mugen Twin Loop
-Injen CAI
-Hondata ECU

116 Kw ATW

My setup is identical, bar the mugen twinloop and toda header. I'll be changing over to the toda header in a few weeks, so we'll see how that goes.

[DC2-PWR]

yeah. stock im and tb. will be using toda 50mm itb next year on my all motor build.

i thought it was a pretty normal figure considering:



My setup is identical, bar the mugen twinloop and toda header. I'll be changing over to the toda header in a few weeks, so we'll see how that goes.

Sounds reasonable now,

I don't know why people tell me Hondata is straight up 20-30kw. WTF and i believe them.

Thanks for sharing.

[MM89]

That was John's old car right? I know he got like 109kw more than once on different dynos. Would have been interesting to see what he got at Toda.

[MM89]

I don't know why people tell me Hondata is straight up 20-30kw. WTF and i believe them.



Power of Disneywatts.

[DC2-PWR]

That was John's old car right? I know he got like 109kw more than once on different dynos. Would have been interesting to see what he got at Toda.

Thats correct.

Would be intresting to see your car on a different dyno, to see the correction factor compared to TODA.

Please update if you do go elsewhere, would be intresting to see the difference compared to a legit dyno (TODA).

[Super-DA9]

Well it's true dynos vary quite a lot, so it's hard to really know exactly what kind of power you're running :S I mean mine came out 109.6KW which was ok considering stock intake, manifold and throttle body but it feels a hell of a lot better then before.

well it would be true that S300 and some other tuning options can make 20-30KW difference straight up, but depends on your mods, cause the tune utilizes your mods to there real potential, but then again thats providing they have the other supporting mods if needed.

for example, you can have upgraded injectors, but you won't be able to rack heaps of KW out of them without sufficient air flow for the amount of fuel you want to go in.

so I guess if you want big power results out of your tune, having all the right mods that support each other, correctly sized exhaust and intake, TB and IM are pretty essential. however a good tune will really improve the way your car drives no matter what mods/setup you're running. :)

[mooshie]

Dynos can make a huge difference, I got 87kw once with a very similar setup (almost stock) to the one that netted me 104 on a different dyno

[Super-DA9]

^^ This

[infurNOS]

stock - 102 kw

modded - 117kw
SRI with AEM dryflow
4-1 RMF long tube header
2.5" exxhaust
65mm TB
Skunk2 IM
tuned


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b279/vlturbz/scan-1.jpg

blue - stock
red - mods/tune

How is that for a power curve? ;)

[dougie_504]

15kw nice gains bro!

[mao]

Numbers are not so important at the end of the day. It is the gain in power that defines your mods. Power figures differ with different environmental conditions including humidity and air temp. My Dynapack puts out an average between 90 - 98 kw for the ITR ---- on the last 15 dynoed stock.

Pls note: On some worn engines, they run that power figure, but will knock badly once they are modified, which means very little or no power gain or even power loss when they are modifed.

[infurNOS]

15kw nice gains bro!

thanks! actually with the bolt ons it only put on about 8-9 kw and the tune was responsible for the rest...what a difference it makes...tuning would have to be the one mod people take for granted the most

[joe.teg]

Stock: 93kw

Mods:
Blox B cams
Adjustable cam gears
Valves springs
Titanium retainers
Kelford valve guides
Port and polish
Port match
Skunk IM + TB
Injen cai
Blox V-stack
2.25in exhaust
T1R headers
Tune (S100)


Result: 131.4kw
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5122/5250402828_11a55711a2_z.jpg

[dougie_504]

Nice gain, but what the hell happened to your power curve in the middle bro?

[joe.teg]

hahahaha dont ask me man, i gotta figure it out lmao

[MM89]

Just came back from nsw last night.

new setup was:

-Toda Header
-gutted JDM ITR Cat
-J's 60RS Ti
-Injen CAI
-Hondata S300

only difference was the header; last time the J's Racing header was used.

Last time I pulled 113.1kw @ the wheels, this time pulled 116.1kw @ the wheels. Both in 4th gear.

Same dyno, same tyre pressures, Air temperature (this time) was 4 degrees higher.

1-2kw gains everywhere except between 4200-4500rpm. The Toda header is much more linear, whereas the J's header has the typical vtec curve.

3kw gained in peak power and rev limit is set slightly higher to take advantage of the extra power made in the top end.

Partial throttle is great with the new header and feels very torquey. Don't have to bury my foot in the pedal or downshift going up some of those steep hills along the hume going back to melbourne.

Dyno graphs when I get my hands on a scanner

[Vvvtec]

Just came back from nsw last night.

new setup was:

-Toda Header
-gutted JDM ITR Cat
-J's 60RS Ti
-Injen CAI
-Hondata S300

only difference was the header; last time the J's Racing header was used.

Last time I pulled 113.1kw @ the wheels, this time pulled 116.1kw @ the wheels. Both in 4th gear.

Same dyno, same tyre pressures, Air temperature (this time) was 4 degrees higher.

1-2kw gains everywhere except between 4200-4500rpm. The Toda header is much more linear, whereas the J's header has the typical vtec curve.

3kw gained in peak power and rev limit is set slightly higher to take advantage of the extra power made in the top end.

Partial throttle is great with the new header and feels very torquey. Don't have to bury my foot in the pedal or downshift going up some of those steep hills along the hume going back to melbourne.

Dyno graphs when I get my hands on a scanner

Brilliant. Absolutely awesome with just bolt-ons. Add cams to that list and that's effectively what I'll be doing to my teg.

Where is vtec engagement at now?

[MM89]

what cams are you planning to use? if you're using big duration and lift cams, it'd be a good idea to bump up the compression so you're not overcamming the motor.

vtec is set at 4400rpm now, forgot what the stock vtec engagement point is, but i think it's close enough to stock.

[Vvvtec]

I've asked Adrian if Toda Spec 2's are tuneable with stock compression, and they are. Obviously it's not ideal, I'd like a little higher compression so if I do end up with the Toda cam, I'll eventually bump up compression.

Either that, or something a little milder, perhaps B16b cams.

4400 sounds about stock, I swear mine crosses over at 4600 haha

[MM89]

Toda spec B is as far as you would go on a vtir motor without raising compression. Even then you would still need valve springs and retainers because the peak power of the spec B will be higher than your stock cams so you will need to rev a bit higher to be making that power and we don't wanna rev too high on these b18c2 valve springs do we?

[Vvvtec]

Definitely :) Already in the process of sussing out springs and retainers.

[dc2r]

makes u think y buy a dc2r wen u can get a vtir with the same power and 4 less
ive got a vtir just rebuilding now havent driven it in 2 yrs miss it heaps

12.6 comp pistons, forged rods
stage 3 crower cams, springs retainers
arp studs all round
spoon exhaust, xforce headers and cat

still need computer lsd and itb's hoping 2 run it in wen i get my license bak lets c wat numbers i get

Its been said before, and I'll say it again...
Yeah you can buy a cheaper VTiR and mod it to have as much or more power than an ITR, but that still doesn't make it an ITR!
If all you want is power, then you're better off buying a turbo car such as a S15 or WRX or something... What makes the ITR an ITR is its handling. Not only that, there are other differences between a VTiR and ITR... suspension, gearbox, LSD, gear ratios, etc. Not just the power it makes. So you can do everything you can to make a VTiR like an ITR, but it will never be a real Type-R.
Peace :)

[Super-DA9]

thats right, it's pre done up with much better parts. which is why it's more expensive, and has much higher performance. but that said they are still the same platform. so it's not like they're in two completely different worlds. I love ITR's but I'm no baller so I settled for it's "younger brother".

anyone dyno'd a VTiR with cams and ITB's? interested in what kind of difference it made and where on the power band. :)

[Evok]

Ima bump this cause i want to know more dyno's for vti-r considering their such a budget car.

230km
standard internals

Bolt on
2.5 Inch + High flow cat
PLM TA headers
Blox intake manifold
b18b Standard intake
VAFC tuned

114.6kw atw @ toysgarage.

[stndrd]

Back when I had my B18C2 in my EG this was the setup and figures

Standard internals (160,000ish km)
ARC air box
4-2-1 headers
2.25in exhaust
VAFC tune

98.6kw/148nm @ the hubs

[BZZDC2]

98 dc2 vti-r

Standard internals
16**** km
Skunk2 intake manifold
Injen cai
68mm tb
Dc2r exhaust + high flow cat
PLM TA headers
Hondata s300 tune

124kw atw

[Super-DA9]

98 dc2 vti-r

Standard internals
16**** km
Skunk2 intake manifold
Injen cai
68mm tb
Dc2r exhaust + high flow cat
PLM TA headers
Hondata s300 tune

124kw atw

That is really high for factory internals! Who tuned it?

[Webby_roller]

Update on my vtir...

b18cr cams, valve springs, retainers,
t3/t4
precision 39mm wastegate 6.9psi spring
550cc injectors
everything else stock

150kw atw soft tune with stock fuel consumption around town

[BZZDC2]

That is really high for factory internals! Who tuned it?

Hey tim! remember me? i bought the dc2r cams off you awhile back, I've yet to put them in lol

I got it tuned @ byp, I was abit surprised to see that figure as well, but it does pull pretty good so I'm not complaining :)

[dougie_504]

Hey tim! remember me? i bought the dc2r cams off you awhile back, I've yet to put them in lol

I got it tuned @ byp, I was abit surprised to see that figure as well, but it does pull pretty good so I'm not complaining :)

It's a huge power figure. Would expect at least 10kw less personally.

Any idea what compression the motor is making?

[stndrd]

Where was the IAT sensor from the dyno located when the power run was done?

[BZZDC2]

It's a huge power figure. Would expect at least 10kw less personally.

Any idea what compression the motor is making?

Like I said I was surprised with it maybe dodgy dyno? Tbh I am abit iffy about it so pls don't hate Lol I lost the dyno sheet I was given but If I find it ill post it up :)

With compression I'm not sure aye, I plan to get a re-tune done in the near future and ill post results here, I hear Adrian at SAS is the man to see

[BZZDC2]

Where was the IAT sensor from the dyno located when the power run was done?

I'm going to sound like the biggest dumbass so my apologies ahead lol

I was outside talking to mates the whole time the power run was being done :(
Not to try talk bad about people but I was abit iffy at the fact that it only took 2hrs for the tune to be complete

But then again I'm not a know it all so idk

[ALLMTR996]

The OBD2 VtiR engines made a few more kw std than the OBD1 engines 100% std they will make from 90 to 100kw fit a very good header 2.5" free flowing exhaust with a 100cell cat Skunk2 Pro series intake manifold 68mm TB with a 75mm SRI with a well designed 3" V stack and filter you will see 110 to 120kw without opening the engine.

Best unopened engine I have seen was fitted Supertech valve springs fitted without removing the head and Buddyclub 3+ cams it made 128kw the thing that killed it was the STD gearbox you really could not use the torque to its full potential,this engine had the same mods as I listed above as the customer listened to what I told him to get and it worked out very well.I know Adrian did a few with STD bottomends and head work and he was over the 140kw I think there listed in a dyno thread somewhere on this forum.

[BZZDC2]

The OBD2 VtiR engines made a few more kw std than the OBD1 engines 100% std they will make from 90 to 100kw fit a very good header 2.5" free flowing exhaust with a 100cell cat Skunk2 Pro series intake manifold 68mm TB with a 75mm SRI with a well designed 3" V stack and filter you will see 110 to 120kw without opening the engine.

Best unopened engine I have seen was fitted Supertech valve springs fitted without removing the head and Buddyclub 3+ cams it made 128kw the thing that killed it was the STD gearbox you really could not use the torque to its full potential,this engine had the same mods as I listed above as the customer listened to what I told him to get and it worked out very well.I know Adrian did a few with STD bottomends and head work and he was over the 140kw I think there listed in a dyno thread somewhere on this forum.

Agree with the STD vti-r box holding back the performance of the dc2, I highly recommend anyone to switch over to the dc2r 4.7fd box.
The torque difference is definetley noticeable, happy I decided to invest in one don't regret it at all really wakes the car up especially after the i/h/e + tune

[dougie_504]

Sensible modding... Great to see.

[Super-DA9]

Hey tim! remember me? i bought the dc2r cams off you awhile back, I've yet to put them in lol

I got it tuned @ byp, I was abit surprised to see that figure as well, but it does pull pretty good so I'm not complaining :)

Hey there! I didn't recognise your username at first, haha.

Will be interesting to see what figure it makes with the DC2R cams!

[BZZDC2]

Sensible modding... Great to see.

Don't know wether it's sarcasm or not lol
But cheers bro :)

[BZZDC2]

Hey there! I didn't recognise your username at first, haha.

Will be interesting to see what figure it makes with the DC2R cams!

Lol all good bro, how's your dc2 comming along?
Yeah I'm curious aye ill post up dyno sheet when i put em in lol

[dougie_504]

Don't know wether it's sarcasm or not lol
But cheers bro :)

Legit mate.

Some people throw money at their car with no idea how to mod it.

Good to see you're addressing the car's deficiencies which is the way to go.

[chubby steve]

dc2 vtir completly stock except 4 spoon catback 106kw