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Lyle_Style
09-12-2004, 04:11 PM
Hey guys my project next yr will be a b18c5/6/7 turbo into my civic 94 4 door

I have been in contact with some jap wreckers and for a b18C with tranny (5spd) im looking at 1250 (No Manifolds or ecu). I do not want an ecu as i have a lt8 at the moment nor do i want the standard intake manifold (getting bigger one from us) or zorst manifold (turbo setup)

What other gear do i need to do just the motor conversion (not the turbo setup)
such as wireing lumbs, belts, radiator, mounts.
If someone could give me a list of things i need to do or need to get just for the engine conversion that would be great

Also Do the b18c's come with 6 spd box's?
Are the B16A mounts the same as the b18C's? and if so can i just get these mounts off the shelf for my engine bay?

Thanks please if you are going to reply do no give me crap or call me an idiot i dont like posting up threds and being made to look like a fool, if u dont have anything productive or nice to say just ignore the thred
Cheers :)

BlitZ
09-12-2004, 04:38 PM
i hope your not attempting this yourself..
have u attempted a coversion before?
your plan doesnt sound too good or atleast reliable enough to enjoy.

And no b18's dont come with 6 speed...
the b18c for 1250 with tranny for 1250 is quiet reasonable.. how many ks has it got..
it definity isnt a typer engine thou for that price...
and as to what other gear your would need..
you would need everyhting that the engine is missing..
you would need a b18 loom.. change all your seals.. timing belt..etc etc etc..

while your there upgrade your radiator and add an oil cooler for the turbo.

do u know how many k's the motors got? you gogin to blow the internal in no time dude..

VTEChnique
09-12-2004, 04:57 PM
B18C-2 is what you want for boost - B18C5/6/7 etc are all Type R motors and have high compression not suitable for forced induction.

$1250 is a fkn BARGAIN for B-series with Tranny !! does it include axles, mounts, intake and exhaust manifolds, wiring harness, shift linkage etc ?

saboteur
09-12-2004, 09:59 PM
Hey Lyle,

Good to see your car has come a long way with that much welcomed TD05. I was suprised how much you have done to it in such a small amount of time!

As far as motor mounts for B swaps are concerned, check out:
http://www.hasport.com/Products/Mounts.htm

Cheers,
Tim

Lyle_Style
10-12-2004, 04:17 PM
Ok Listn Hear u rude bastard. Dont start makeing comments that arnt asked for read my ****ing first post.

It has 70000ks its a C5 and yes i think i know if you boost a stock motor with a high compression it means bad things. I do have plans for such. But that wasnt what the thred was about i Simply asked a few questions about doing the conversion. I Dont Want or Need bullshit opinions. I u wanna post in my thred just answer the questions that i have asked cuz all the other shit that comes out of your mouth is not helpfull to me.

eg "i hope your not attempting this yourself.. "
"have u attempted a coversion before?"
"your plan doesnt sound too good or atleast reliable enough to enjoy."
"it definity isnt a typer engine thou for that price..."
"while your there upgrade your radiator and add an oil cooler for the turbo."
"you gogin to blow the internal in no time dude."

Its such a pitty there are assholes like you on forems like these who spend there time saying how much of a fool someone is or how they are an idiot. This is a place where people should be able to help each other out. Not in your case where u obviously feel proud to be able to make someone else feel like an idiot.

I Appreciate you answers to my questions but why add all the extra bullshit in? its no help to me and its just more effort for you.



i hope your not attempting this yourself..
have u attempted a coversion before?
your plan doesnt sound too good or atleast reliable enough to enjoy.

And no b18's dont come with 6 speed...
the b18c for 1250 with tranny for 1250 is quiet reasonable.. how many ks has it got..
it definity isnt a typer engine thou for that price...
and as to what other gear your would need..
you would need everyhting that the engine is missing..
you would need a b18 loom.. change all your seals.. timing belt..etc etc etc..

while your there upgrade your radiator and add an oil cooler for the turbo.

do u know how many k's the motors got? you gogin to blow the internal in no time dude..

BlitZ
10-12-2004, 09:22 PM
Wake up to yourself and look at the way u asked and phased your question.
By asking blatent questions and giving silly examples doesnt give you very much credibility doing both a conversion and a turbo upgrade.
I dont know what kind of skillset you have, but from what your wrote you dont sound very mechanical at all (i could be completely wrong and im sorry about that)

Examples are phrased below :



What other gear do i need to do just the motor conversion (not the turbo setup)
such as wireing lumbs, belts, radiator, mounts.
Cheers :)you name like all the blatent obvious examples..... wiring loom? you might as well mention u also need a new alternator.




b18C with tranny (5spd) im looking at 1250 .......It has 70000ks ...from the wreckers....... its a c5
your claiming that youre getting a B18C5 ITR engine with a 5 speed (LSD?) gearbox with 70000KMS for $1250. MAybe you're right with your claims and tis cheap.. jsut that its very hard to believe that you know what you are talkin about.





Do the b18c's come with 6 spd box's?
should honestly do abit more research before you attempt the conversion



I wasnt being rude.. just trying to point out the facts.. so stop pointing fingers at people who arent trying to ridicule you.......




THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS YOU READ FROM A 14 YEAR OLD IN HOT 4'S:wave:





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Lyle_Style
11-12-2004, 02:20 PM
so what man, but who are u to judge what people know and say weather it is exceptable or not? And no i dont completely know what i am talking about hence why i am on this forem trying to get advice... that is ADVICE! not some cockhead giveing me shit and not answering my questions. If you dont want to answer my questions then dont bother posting .. its as simple as that.

And YES i know i should do some research and that is part of it. Asking questions over a forem.

Mugen_B16B
11-12-2004, 02:34 PM
lol

crxzzR
11-12-2004, 07:28 PM
*sees a moderator coming...*

panda[cRx]
12-12-2004, 05:01 AM
no dont check out hasport.com seeing as they dont ship to aus
hasport will just tell u to order their mounts from www.full-race.com
they also have shift linkage and driveshafts as well as numerous other parts
quick postage too

u'll need wiring loom as stated earlier (u need 0bd1), they are hard to find. no melbourne wreckers had any and i was lucky to score one off a mate
everything else was noted earlier or u should already know anyway

btw engine sounds a lil TOO CHEAP, i got my b18c1 with box for 2100 and that was a good price. so either its farked or u r full or shiet. b18c5 with box? *HACHEW*
anyway as u stated it would have been better for you to get a c1 or c2 as they have lower comp

nothing i said was personal but u gotta look at it from our point of view bud
and dont try and flame me as i am doin a b18c1 swap right now ;)
any questions or beef with what i said then PM

toE
12-12-2004, 05:09 AM
All of you calm down and refrain from the name calling and personal attacks!
This thread can turn into a useful source of information.

If you wish to have a keyboard war, take it to PMs!
Any more bickering from anyone, will result in the user's account being suspended. I mean it!

SiR JDM
12-12-2004, 06:00 AM
Which manifolds are you planning to use dude? intake and headers.. i assume u wont be using stndard b18c5 ones due to you boosting it?

Like everyone else has said, $1250 is a DAMN good price!
Usually a ITR box wont even go for that price, let alone block as well.. u either have some tight connections or somethin wrong with it.. that price is too sus..considering the rarety of the engine coulda fetched alot more!

I cant speak for turbo setups, but ive seen b18c5 swaps on breezes with the single core single pannel radiators and they have no problems here in melb during the summer... so radiator may not need upgrading..

If you have have the box and block, ull need any bseries gearlinkage.. but as u can see in my signiture.. i need one too so get in line :P they're pretty hard to source second hand as wreckers dont seperate them from 1/2 cuts... although hondaR has/had some for 300ish? i think he mite be out of stock atm but talk to him he should be able to get more in a future shippment

Did you get drive shafts with the block? not sure which civic you have atm now, but drive shafts would probably need to be changed..

Front discs... u obviously dind't get them with the engine.. and even if you did unless you have the knuckles, couldn't use them. Source some VTI-R (ek4/dc2) front discs .. or if you want, like Panda[CRX], get some bb1 prelude discs... as they're bigger than the ek4/sc2 ones .. ie most similar to the ITR .. bigger breaks are a must especially if your going to boost it =]

panda[cRx]
12-12-2004, 07:14 AM
like i said get the hasports linkage (www.full-race.com (http://www.full-race.com/) or ask hondar), their driveshafts are meant to be nice and strong high high powered aplications (cant remember exact figure)

and like james said i scored a brake setup from a prelude vtir, if u gonna do the same get the ones with 11.1inch discs as there are 2 different sized discs with preludes
i got whole lot needed for conversion (knuckle, hub etc for 200 bux)
i'm not sure if u have discs or drums on the back, well i had discs so i just kept em same size as i felt the front would be doin most the work anyway

also do you research before you get your turbo manifold as there is a lot of crap out there!! u dont want it crackin on ya

you also havent mentioned how much boost u plan on running, that will affect your internals and fuel system amongst other things.

then on top of that you will need to get it engineered so the cops dont bend u over and pound ur virgin ass (guess here :rolleyes: )
if major mods are needed to keep engineer happy it can end up expensive

also maybe its just me but maybe it would be better not to do all at once (ie engine in, see how that goes then attempt turbo) just a suggestion as with these projects there are many unexpected things that can pop up.
also think of power difference... stock civic engine (guess here) to boosted supposed b18c5. with your suggested lack of experience it sounds like a write off waiting to happen.

just be careful on the roads if all this goes ahead
good luck with it.:thumbsup:

Lyle_Style
12-12-2004, 06:35 PM
If ANyone is in brisbane the quote was from All Jap Wreckers and i know the bloke did say 1250 but that was ONLY im pretty sure for the box and motor, he also said he could do the b16b and b16a for similar prices, but im pretty sure they wouldnt be complete setups.


But if that deal is just hype i got a mates brother with a type R with a b18c5 wanting to sell off next yr, do to a k20 swap. But he'll be wanting around 2k which is still allright

panda[cRx]
12-12-2004, 10:17 PM
oh so u havent bought it.... get back to us when u serious lol

SiR JDM
13-12-2004, 04:46 AM
If you wanna boost a b18... id strongly say get a b18c2.. dont bother with a c5 or c7.. its made for high compressoin.. ull just be wasting your money converting it to a lower compression 1.8 bseries block by doing that, so u may as well just buy the b18c2 and boost that from beggining... save the money for strengthenin internals .. my 2c

Lyle_Style
13-12-2004, 08:07 PM
F$#& it sux that you cant ask a few questios without some WANKERS hasselling you

Lyle_Style
13-12-2004, 08:08 PM
what hp are the C2s rated at and what redline do they have? standard?

panda[cRx]
13-12-2004, 10:09 PM
reline is lower but if u gonna boost a b18c5 u'd wanna swap the internals anyway
better off goin for c1 or c2 and goin from there.

even if u just wanna run at low boost like 7psi so internals are not needed IMO it'd be better to go with the c1 or c2

wankers aye? we could have not replied at all dude.
you got some helpful answers here, the only thing is nobody believed u on the engine price coz we know what they cost from experience

SiR JDM
14-12-2004, 04:55 AM
']wankers aye? we could have not replied at all dude.
you got some helpful answers here, the only thing is nobody believed u on the engine price coz we know what they cost from experience
:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Lyle_Style
09-01-2005, 07:02 PM
The engine in my car at the moment is turbo charged D series which is quicker then a type R as is. I dont drive my car like a dickhead and im not going to write it off.
Yes i know i dont know much bout B series motors yet but thats what im trying to do is the research so i can do a conversion successfully and safely




']like i said get the hasports linkage (www.full-race.com (http://www.full-race.com/) or ask hondar), their driveshafts are meant to be nice and strong high high powered aplications (cant remember exact figure)

and like james said i scored a brake setup from a prelude vtir, if u gonna do the same get the ones with 11.1inch discs as there are 2 different sized discs with preludes
i got whole lot needed for conversion (knuckle, hub etc for 200 bux)
i'm not sure if u have discs or drums on the back, well i had discs so i just kept em same size as i felt the front would be doin most the work anyway

also do you research before you get your turbo manifold as there is a lot of crap out there!! u dont want it crackin on ya

you also havent mentioned how much boost u plan on running, that will affect your internals and fuel system amongst other things.

then on top of that you will need to get it engineered so the cops dont bend u over and pound ur virgin ass (guess here :rolleyes: )
if major mods are needed to keep engineer happy it can end up expensive

also maybe its just me but maybe it would be better not to do all at once (ie engine in, see how that goes then attempt turbo) just a suggestion as with these projects there are many unexpected things that can pop up.
also think of power difference... stock civic engine (guess here) to boosted supposed b18c5. with your suggested lack of experience it sounds like a write off waiting to happen.

just be careful on the roads if all this goes ahead
good luck with it.:thumbsup:

egSi
11-01-2005, 08:55 AM
you cant spell for shit lyle

z3lda
11-01-2005, 09:45 AM
no ones gonna help u or answer your questions if u keep calling people wankers. so tidy up ur act or move along