View Full Version : Carbon Fibre Bonnet
vte_gra
29-03-2010, 09:18 PM
hi everyone, just wondering what my options are as i am looking to buy a carbon fibre bonnet for my DC2R 01'
90KUU
29-03-2010, 11:10 PM
defect, i guess..
Zilli
30-03-2010, 07:50 AM
the issue with CF bonnets as i see it are... (ive considered getting one for a long time! :-))
1) They are illegal for road use as they potentially shatter upon impact and could cause damage to humans, which could lead you to potentially being responsible for personal injury if it is deemed contributory to injuries
2) most CF bonnest are actually fibreglass with a CF cover
3) The real this (full carbon fibre) are very expensive
4) To try and hide it you need to paint it, whihc defeats the purpose, particularly if you buy an expensive one with an attractive weave
Tegzieboi_BAR
30-03-2010, 11:26 AM
No point forking out big bucks on a full CF bonnet unless its a show car... get a cheaper CF/FG vented bonnet 4 track use... will be light n u wont be as fussed if u damage it. Thats my opinion.
Zilli
30-03-2010, 11:28 AM
^ wow... you would actually get a full carbon bonnet... designed to reduce weight and thus improve performance, ONLY if it is a showcar?
Tegzieboi_BAR
30-03-2010, 11:59 AM
^^^ Im just saying i wouldnt fork out $900+ on a top notch CF bonnet if i constantly gotta worry bout gettin defected n damaged around the track (then theres fade/damage from sun, scratches etc)
I would only get a CF bonnet for track use, in which case id get a cheaper vented, FG lined one. Cant imagine it would be any heavier than an expensive full CF.
marky53
30-03-2010, 01:26 PM
hi everyone, just wondering what my options are as i am looking to buy a carbon fibre bonnet for my DC2R 01'
still looking for one?
try ebay as well as traders here.....
rage_against
30-03-2010, 02:11 PM
are the fb/cf coated bonnets defectable still?
are the fb/cf coated bonnets defectable still?
Any thing that is not OEM is defectable. Hell I've even known people get defected for OEM items (ie. Recaros)
Tegzieboi_BAR
30-03-2010, 02:50 PM
Ive been told different things but as far as i kno all CF or FB bonnets r illegal. Although, according to some, CF bonnets r legal if they have a metal skeleton (reinforced underneath)
Tegzieboi_BAR
30-03-2010, 02:52 PM
Any thing that is not OEM is defectable. Hell I've even known people get defected for OEM items (ie. Recaros)
LOL so true, i know someone who got done for being too low even though it was completely stock standard shocks n springs in perfect condition.
rage_against
30-03-2010, 03:17 PM
Any thing that is not OEM is defectable. Hell I've even known people get defected for OEM items (ie. Recaros)
technically if you dont have the same brand make of tyres that your car came with its defectable. or so the rta hotline told us. anything that is on the car that was not standard fitment is defectable is what they told me.
Mr_will
30-03-2010, 03:53 PM
technically if you dont have the same brand make of tyres that your car came with its defectable. or so the rta hotline told us. anything that is on the car that was not standard fitment is defectable is what they told me.
I very much doubt that that is the case.
as long as they were the same specs and importantly load rating there would be no grounds for defect
WuackR
30-03-2010, 07:53 PM
OP, check thread below..
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59568
And scroll down to the CF Bonnet add in.
Hope this helps buddy.
Goodluck ! :thumbsup:
rage_against
30-03-2010, 08:53 PM
I very much doubt that that is the case.
as long as they were the same specs and importantly load rating there would be no grounds for defect
i cant see it being true either.
but i also cant see why a fibre glass bonnet wrapped in cf is a defect. i know they say proper cf bonnets shatter but a fb wrapped in cf bonnet is proper cf is it?
jords
30-03-2010, 09:09 PM
I love my CF bonnet.
slimx
30-03-2010, 09:42 PM
they are RED LABEL. they will **** u so hard.
i hang out with alotta show car owners.. defects.. is what we know.. we do ..
Carbon Fibre bonnet, is red label unless u cary around ur stock bonnet lol.
people think having your car less than 5cm off the ground is lyk no way.. to bad.. honestly cops are easy going on that. but when it comes to ..
Flame throwers.. Nitrous purging, Backfires, Carbon fibre bonnets
they are PRICKS lol.
Sexc86
30-03-2010, 10:04 PM
A bonnet is a structural part of a car. When a car is crash tested it meets Australian standards in regards to crumple zones, impact damages etc.
The reason Carbon fibre bonnets are illegal ... is not because they are carbon fibre, or fibreglass for that matter. Simple because you have replaced a structural part of your car with something unproven / untested. Now the car will react differently in a crash scenario.
It is possible to own a 100% street legal carbon fibre, fibreglass bonnet with vents etc.. but it MUST be one that has been built to ADR specifications (Australian Design Rules). These usually weight a little extra (no where near the OEM metal bonnets), cost more and come with a adr certification certificate (never assume anything is adr certified without a ADR certificate). The far better option - looks great, safe & 100% legal (not ghetto CF getting around on most fan boys cars these days).
Another option is simple get a run of the mill, non adr approved bonnet and paint it the colour of your car. This might reduce some police attention however it wont help you if your in a crash.
The last option, get a factory metal bonnet and attach a FG/CF skin on top of the metal frame work. This is usually expensive - includes the cost of two bonnets you have to destroy not too mention the labour to construct the new bonnet. Also 9/10 most cops wont give you the benefit of the doubt that its a safe a legal option. Would possible cost the same amount as an ADR approved bonnet so why bother with this option.
You could consider going the CF wrap. Seems to be quite popular these days. Cheap, and nice finish. No reduction in weight though.
rage_against
31-03-2010, 08:41 AM
A bonnet is a structural part of a car. When a car is crash tested it meets Australian standards in regards to crumple zones, impact damages etc.
The reason Carbon fibre bonnets are illegal ... is not because they are carbon fibre, or fibreglass for that matter. Simple because you have replaced a structural part of your car with something unproven / untested. Now the car will react differently in a crash scenario.
It is possible to own a 100% street legal carbon fibre, fibreglass bonnet with vents etc.. but it MUST be one that has been built to ADR specifications (Australian Design Rules). These usually weight a little extra (no where near the OEM metal bonnets), cost more and come with a adr certification certificate (never assume anything is adr certified without a ADR certificate). The far better option - looks great, safe & 100% legal (not ghetto CF getting around on most fan boys cars these days).
Another option is simple get a run of the mill, non adr approved bonnet and paint it the colour of your car. This might reduce some police attention however it wont help you if your in a crash.
The last option, get a factory metal bonnet and attach a FG/CF skin on top of the metal frame work. This is usually expensive - includes the cost of two bonnets you have to destroy not too mention the labour to construct the new bonnet. Also 9/10 most cops wont give you the benefit of the doubt that its a safe a legal option. Would possible cost the same amount as an ADR approved bonnet so why bother with this option.
You could consider going the CF wrap. Seems to be quite popular these days. Cheap, and nice finish. No reduction in weight though.
any idea where to get adr approved bonnets?
tiksie
31-03-2010, 08:55 AM
^^^ Im just saying i wouldnt fork out $900+ on a top notch CF bonnet if i constantly gotta worry bout gettin defected n damaged around the track (then theres fade/damage from sun, scratches etc)
I would only get a CF bonnet for track use, in which case id get a cheaper vented, FG lined one. Cant imagine it would be any heavier than an expensive full CF.
You would have to fork out way more than $900 for full CF :p
I've seen a full carbon fibre DC2R bonnet SELL for $2300 like 2 years ago.
Neesmo31
31-03-2010, 09:13 AM
Just put that vinyl on it and clear coat over it if your doing it for looks.
Zilli
31-03-2010, 09:48 AM
any idea where to get adr approved bonnets?
x2... i'd like to know if they actually exist
Sexc86
31-03-2010, 11:15 AM
Yes these do exist... and there is a manufacture in brisbane that make them. I have forgotten their name, however i know DMD make ADR approved fibreglass bonnets so they should be able to point most people in the correct direction. Or you could simply ask some workshops in the automotive industry to point you in the right direction or look through automotive magasine advertising (hot/fast 4's etc)
NSPYRE
31-03-2010, 01:22 PM
The 3m vinyl cant be clear coated. I had the same dilemma with my bonnet and just bought a huge roll of carbon fibre fabric and epoxy resin and did my own over lay. Passes defects as it is still the standard bonnet =)
VT-11-RR
31-03-2010, 03:09 PM
you cant have the best of both worlds.
Sexc86
31-03-2010, 06:01 PM
I disagree... You can have something that looks great AND is 100% street legal !
most people are too stingy and then whinge when they get caught...
Zilli
01-04-2010, 06:24 AM
funny, last night i was reading the latest Street Machine, and they had an information piece on fibreglass panels... there is a company in QLD i believe that does it, and has plenty of moulds in stock... but i doubt one of them would be off a Honda! Unsure whether they're ADR approved... will check over the weekend and come back
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