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dbrudgh
10-04-2010, 02:11 PM
Hey everyone,

Im thinking of purchasing a Honda Integra as my first car, but I'm having a little bit of trouble trying to figure out a reasonable price for the models I want. So I figured it would be good if you could all help me out.:angel:

Can you please give me an indications of the prices im expecting to pay a private seller for the following models/year/km (assuming that all of these cars are in a sound condition)

2002~2003 Honda Integra 70,000~90,000 km, no modifications

2002~2003 Honda Integra Luxury 70000~90000km, no modifications

2002~2003 Honda Integra Type R 70,000~90,000km no modifications

Also does the colour of the car affect the prices of the Integra dramatically? (ie is black much more expensive than silver?)

Thanks for the help :)

muzukashi
10-04-2010, 02:28 PM
the normal dc5 and the luxury models is the same thing isnt it, the base model? someone correct me if i'm wrong probably can pick this up for 15-17k
type r your looking at probably 19-23ish for a decent one

as per colour the price may have an impact but probably more of the availability of the colour of the buyer & seller ( ie CW is more rare then silver so people willing to pay/sell at more etc etc )

Chriskoss
10-04-2010, 03:07 PM
No there is a dc5 base model then there is the luxury which is the facelift model if im not mistaken with different rims to the dc5 base model and dc5r and leather interior obviously

dc5 luxury would be same price as a dc5r with higher kms..

OP - what is your budget? you looking at performance or just a get around car?

Bang for buck would be to try and find a reasonable km dc5r for like 20k.

KOHO
10-04-2010, 03:31 PM
yup! theres DC5 (base/std) then DC5 Lux and DC5R.

pretty much depends on what you want to get out of the car. the DC5 base and Lux is pretty much the same just difference in extras. i think the face-lift applies to 04 models and above.

dbrudgh
10-04-2010, 05:07 PM
I have a budget of $19k however of course I would like to get the car cheap as possible :)

I do have an eye for luxury/type r, but I was quite unsure whether I could buy a clean car with the budget I have (especially after an inspection of a "clean" luxury few days ago turned out to be a previously written off vehicle)

Also when you are trying to barter someone with the price of the car (ie the price they ask is 20k ono)
what is a reasonable price that I can expect to lower the price to? :S

Thanks :)

dbrudgh
10-04-2010, 05:14 PM
oh and im still a uni student, so performance = preferred
but then I really wouldnt mind the sunroof + leatherseat features of a luxury either :)

So like i say i dont mind either luxury or type r if i can afford either one of them

p3akin
10-04-2010, 05:27 PM
dont forget about the type s.. the middle range of the lux ad type r

r3ckless
10-04-2010, 05:32 PM
dont forget about the type s.. the middle range of the lux ad type r

how is it middle range?

its the newer version, basically u had in 02-04.. u had either a base dc5 or a type r; dc5r.

in late04 to 06, u had a base dc5 called a dc5 luxury (has the same engine i believe, but leather seats, sunroof), or a Type s, DC5S, has a much more powerful motor, shorter ratio gearbox, and better front and rear sway bars.

Now the differences between the S and R, are basically, R has recaro's, and sussy.

S has sunroof, leather seats, better/double din cd palyer with 6 cd stacker, better looking/bigger wheels.. Also the S has 7 Kw more power than the R, but because the it also has the sunroof, the extrra added weight is there, so im unsure stock for stock, in a stirahgtline, which car will win.. but im deadset around corners, the R will outhandle the S.

So basically the dc5 luxury replaced the dc5 base, and the Type S replaced the Type R.

45SET
10-04-2010, 05:42 PM
8 posts in and no one has said to look at Redbook (http://www.redbook.com.au/).

Once you've found a price on there for a particular car you want, double check the price on carsales with cars of similar age, k's and model.

r3ckless
10-04-2010, 06:06 PM
8 posts in and no one has said to look at Redbook (http://www.redbook.com.au/).

Once you've found a price on there for a particular car you want, double check the price on carsales with cars of similar age, k's and model.

Hows it going 45set!


for me personally, i dont use redbook, i like to go on carsales, and see the average prices there, it indicated the true market price.

45SET
10-04-2010, 06:17 PM
Hows it going 45set!


for me personally, i dont use redbook, i like to go on carsales, and see the average prices there, it indicated the true market price.

Good man... just won a football game 3-1 so I'm on top of the world :p Yourself?

Totally agree with you. I would never use redbook as gospel, but rather use it as a guide so you aren't going into the situation blind.

If I was looking into a car, I'd go on redbook and find what the "Average" (K's, stock, condition) of a particular car is.

I'd then go onto carsales and you find a couple of "Average" similar model cars to gauge what the average price is. At least you'll know which ones are too good to be true (AKA be cautious), which ones are about on the money, and which ones are dreamers.

I did this recently when looking at an Evo 9, and found that a decent condition low k's stock/mild mods Evo 9 was going for around 40k (Privately).

DC5-S
10-04-2010, 09:59 PM
The ITR is made between 02-04, now after 04 they replaced the R with an S, less performance but more luxury which is suitable for street use.
The difference between the R and the S is the 6 Stacker CD, revised suspension setup, R has LSD and S doesnt. Recaro / leather- "style" recaros, Sunroof, S also has higher lift cams than the R hence the 7kW difference. The S also has a shorter intake manifold than the AUDM ITR which also contributes to the extra power. I believe the S and the R should be about the same price? Correct me if im wrong.... however, the later model does help in sustaining the price of your car.

And since ur a uni student, id recommend the R / S, i just dont think the base model gives enough fun to satisfy your thirst for performance. I personally prefer the S because the ivtec crossover sounds like the B-series crossover and i think its louder than the R.

My 2 Cents...

dbrudgh
10-04-2010, 11:15 PM
Thanks for the valuable insight everyone, its been really helpful.

DC5-S, I would love to drive a type-S or a type R but I havnt seen a type S or R which are around $18~19k. And If they are they have really high km's (like 130k km+)
The only question that I have now is whether the sellers are actually expecting to recieve the full amount they posted online, or are they flexible in lowering the price of their cars? (or does this really depend on the seller)

I actually saw a nice Type-R listed today in carpoint for $21k, but I'm not sure whether to give them a call knowing the max I can pay is $19k.\

Anyway thank you all for the comments :)
Any further comments will be much appreciated!!

45SET
11-04-2010, 12:49 AM
I personally prefer the S because the ivtec crossover sounds like the B-series crossover and i think its louder than the R.


Hmm... I'll have to go for a spin in a Type S to see if there is a difference... you sure it doesn't come down to the actual intake used?

DC5.Raven
11-04-2010, 11:08 AM
I personally prefer the S because the ivtec crossover sounds like the B-series crossover and i think its louder than the R.


Hmm... I'll have to go for a spin in a Type S to see if there is a difference... you sure it doesn't come down to the actual intake used?

+1. The I-Vtec crossover in a DC5S sounds exactly the same as in a DC5R.
45SET is right. Its probably your intake.
VTEC in a K series is alot more 'subtle' than the B series.

OP, IMO DC5R > DC5 Lux.
Here's a couple on carsales < 19k:
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=8333198&__Qpb=true&Cr=2&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&__N=1216%201247%201282%201252%201246%204294965322% 204294965105%204294921591%20412&silo=1011&PriceTo=412&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=41&__sid=12155A1897A3

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=7977422&__Qpb=true&Cr=9&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&__N=1216%201247%201282%201252%201246%204294965322% 204294965105%204294921591%20412&silo=1011&PriceTo=412&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=41&__sid=12155A1897A3

Unless sunroof and leather is that important to you. Then get the DC5 Lux.

Dr.k20z1
11-04-2010, 11:41 AM
save and get a type s if you want sunroof and leather and using it as a daily..

seats are more comfy, less aggressive

facelift is alot nicer..

if your budget is that low get a type r, simple.. its not like ur gonna be sticking ur head out the sunroof everyday..

any model underneath that is yeah.. dont even look at them..

R or S thats all! you get what u pay for..

mrntegra
12-04-2010, 03:55 PM
go with the R or S mate... i brought a type S instead of an R because it had the sunroof and leather! but the other reason i brought it as i believed that it would b easier to sell down the later on as it appeals to a wider range of people having those luxury items.. save your cash and buy a decent R or S!

Wez_R
14-04-2010, 11:11 AM
You should be able to get a really nice type R for 19k i wouldnt pay anything over 20k for a type r 20k+ you could get a type S

xhilr8
30-04-2010, 11:26 PM
I managed to pick up a pretty decent Type R for $19K with less than 100,000kms on the odo. you just need to be patient and look around. I think if they listed for $21K, you should be able to negotiate down to $19K....I did!

Just be patient as it can take a while. I was actually very lucky that it didn't take me too long in my search (less than a month).

Personally, I would go with the R over the S since the type R is more aggressive and lighter in weight without all the luxury items. Type R is also better on fuel consumption if that helps your decision. Good luck and I would give that guy on carpoint asking $21K a call and see if he will take $19K

williamwong
01-05-2010, 12:21 AM
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=7977422&__Qpb=true&Cr=9&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&__N=1216%201247%201282%201252%201246%204294965322% 204294965105%204294921591%20412&silo=1011&PriceTo=412&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=41&__sid=12155A1897A3


why does this itr looks a little off?
the headlights are not dc5r headlights yeah?

slimx
01-05-2010, 01:48 AM
It seems to have been in a hit, and instead of buying new Type R lights maybe he bought standard base model ones.

If you look at the front bumper, it doesnt allign straight.. sometimes .. this happens coz of a few bumps but if it was a good enough hit.. it sits like that to.

It does look like a type R motor though.. and well the motor is what makes a car a type r lol. But i can definately say.. that car has been in some kind of minor or large accident. I cant see the top of the shocks, or the front bar shape etc.. Best off inspect the car..
Check under the bumper look at the front bar shape and alligning, check for respraying of the front bar/chassis. Check the levels of the struts etc...

Im no expert the DC5's though so maybe it is .. a fake type R. But in my opinion for someone that doesnt know much about DC5 i can just say.. it looks like its been a hit :)

As for buying one .. honestly mate i cant stress this enough Km's are nothing.. end of the day its not a brand new.. car there usually 04-05 model aye? around that mark .. think about it its 5 yrs old.

In my opinion a car with High K's is usually more well maintained. But ofcourse used more. Its like a .. muscle, use it or lose it lol. buy a Type R NEVER EVER vtec it for 5 years, you tell me what it happens 5 yrs later when u do vtec it lol

mnc
02-05-2010, 07:11 PM
So cheap!

WATAJK
02-05-2010, 10:36 PM
Depends what your after...
I've seen people buy DC5R's for around $27k with around 80,***km..
Difference in what you pay for is;
It's modified correctly
Very well maintained
Regularly cleaned
Never smoked in (this make a big difference in my eyes)
98 Octaine (Always)
Serviced (5000km or 10,000km [6 months])
Colour seems to be a big issue (Championship White you generally pay abit more..)


Mine will be going on carsales while im off the road at a price that i THINK is reasonable. I ain't fussed if it goes or not as im happy with mine :)
If it sells, it sells and ill be back in the market for something, if it doesn't im more then happy to keep it :)
I just wanna see whats out there and what people are willing to offer.

Anyway,
thats my 2cents..

MWAKU
03-05-2010, 07:58 PM
have you even tried inspecting cars and offering money to the guys? i dont know about you, but when selling a car, you always put it up for a few more G's then what you actually want..

so just go, inspect the car, and give ur offer face to face.

KOHO
04-05-2010, 11:21 AM
I think he has found the car....my car! = )

anfernee0525
07-05-2010, 12:14 AM
Redbook is for insurance company ..
A salesman down at auction place told me..