Clutch not engaging at 6500RPM +

[Adrian Euro]

Hi does anyone else have the problem that when you punch your honda euro not the CU2 and it reaches 6500rppm it finds it hard to engage going from first to second????? And it will make a loud crunching sound???? Anyone else find this??? Is there a solution other then not changing at such high rpm????

[oongie]

your engine is a east west design, the engine move's at high rpm, suggest a engine torque damper or ETD for short to overcome such issues.
Or dont shift @ 6500rpm

[ricerockets]

Hi does anyone else have the problem that when you punch your honda euro not the CU2 and it reaches 6500rppm it finds it hard to engage going from first to second????? And it will make a loud crunching sound???? Anyone else find this??? Is there a solution other then not changing at such high rpm????

yea i got that 2 mine just crunches heaps, my mate told me to incfrease the clutch length by messing around with the clutch pedal bolts (??) im still yet to do it plus dont know how =(

[Adrian Euro]

yea i got that 2 mine just crunches heaps, my mate told me to incfrease the clutch length by messing around with the clutch pedal bolts (??) im still yet to do it plus dont know how =(

Yeah i worked on some stuff like changing the bite point etc...... didn't really help that much......

[oongie]

its the engine being out of alignment with the gearbox at high RPM.
You still need to decrease engine movement to shift with ease at high rpm...
Search Engine Torque Damper, ETD

[Type R Positive]

Hi does anyone else have the problem that when you punch your honda euro not the CU2 and it reaches 6500rppm it finds it hard to engage going from first to second????? And it will make a loud crunching sound???? Anyone else find this??? Is there a solution other then not changing at such high rpm????
I know it doesn't help, but mine's fine. Don't force the shift......

[OMG.JAI xD]

Check for any leaking components in your hydraulic clutch system.
Restricted pedal movement might give you slight grabbing in turn still giving rotational force to the gearbox.

Crunching has nothing to do with the torque shift in a motor between changes. Hard to select gears is caused by the torque shift.
Crunching is a gearbox related problem.

I dont see why you would buy a euro and rev it out. Its meant to be a 4dr family sedan. Not a street race car.

[Type R Positive]

I dont see why you would buy a euro and rev it out. Its meant to be a 4dr family sedan. Not a street race car.
Are you serious???

[raffyboy]

Or is better to upgrade clutch? im thinking of upgrading mine

[Adrian Euro]

Or is better to upgrade clutch? im thinking of upgrading mine

I upgraded my clutch to an exhdy heavy duty back when my car was like 50000km. Its now at 193000km. I had that installed for around 40000km. I felt that it was more of a rougher drive then the orginal. Tougher to change and very jerky. I then went back to stock clutch.....

[raffyboy]

I am thinking of upgrading mine to sport clutch not heavy duty or is better to have heavy duty?

[shmivic]

I have the Exedy hd clutch aswell.
Never have i had any trouble changing gears at 6500+rpm.

I dont use an ETD, there is no point unless you have some serious power o/p or fuct mounts.

Its impossible to have the engine block and gearbox bellhousing come out of alignment at any rpm in any car.

Messing around with the clutch pedal fulcrum wont do anything either, Its a hydraulic clutch.. not a cable system.

CL9 is NOT a race car, by comparison to any other honda their alot slower!

Its driver experience mate, dont beat up on the clutch or gearbox, it will cost you alot of money.

Practice fast but smooth "non-wrenching" shifts and dont stomp on and off the clutch.

[oongie]

But the engine mounts flex to cause enough movement in the engine right?
i.e. keeping the car at a standstill and revving you will see movement of the engine block...
correct me if i am wrong as i am but a noob to the mechanical

[shmivic]

every engine/gearbox moves a little on the engine mounts.
manufacturers dont use "solid" mounts in order to increase driving comfort and chassis durablilty.

it is mechanically impossible for an engine moving a little on its mounts to stop it engaging the next gear at high rpm.

there is nothing wrong with your car, just treat it a little better and it will be fine.

[raffyboy]

CL9 is NOT a race car, by comparison to any other honda their alot slower!

Its driver experience mate, dont beat up on the clutch or gearbox, it will cost you alot of money.

Practice fast but smooth "non-wrenching" shifts and dont stomp on and off the clutch.[/QUOTE]

I noticed that too. It crunches if I stomp on the clutch

[HunterZero]

Sounds more like the synchromesh doing what it is supposed to, and you are trying to shift too fast. Euro doesn't have a racing manual gearbox!

A manual gearbox in a road car won't last long if you try to shift too fast, or try to force the shift, or generally abuse it with bad shifting technique. As has been said before, make your shifting smoother, and don't dump the clutch so fast before you've finished shifting.

Definitely not possible to have a gearbox/engine alignment problem at high revs. Even so, it wouldn't affect the shift. When you shift gears, the selector tries to push the locking dog ring that locks the selected gear to the layshaft through the synchro. The synchro will stop the locking ring engaging until the speed matches the gear. Nothing to do with the engine itself.

- HZ

[raffyboy]

Sounds more like the synchromesh doing what it is supposed to, and you are trying to shift too fast. Euro doesn't have a racing manual gearbox!

A manual gearbox in a road car won't last long if you try to shift too fast, or try to force the shift, or generally abuse it with bad shifting technique. As has been said before, make your shifting smoother, and don't dump the clutch so fast before you've finished shifting.

Definitely not possible to have a gearbox/engine alignment problem at high revs. Even so, it wouldn't affect the shift. When you shift gears, the selector tries to push the locking dog ring that locks the selected gear to the layshaft through the synchro. The synchro will stop the locking ring engaging until the speed matches the gear. Nothing to do with the engine itself.

- HZ

Thanks dude this sounds more reasonable