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REV888
14-12-2004, 09:30 AM
If you have had the chance to drive both Manual and Auto in The euro how would you rate the difference ? Is one smoother then the other ?

I have only had the chance to drive manual so would like to know what Auto is like as well!

aaronng
14-12-2004, 09:43 AM
Since the auto has a torque convertor in between, it should be smoother. But then again, the Euro manual is already pretty smooth in stock form that the vibrations you feel are from the tyres contacting the road.
In my Euro manual, at 2000-2100rpm, there is a strange subtle vibration that goes through the entire cabin. Noticeable when you have 2 keys touching each other on your keyring and they start to vibrate.

learner
14-12-2004, 01:31 PM
auto...... when i change gear... it still slow...
is like i have to push up a gear at 6500rpm, then it will change to second gear when its 7000rpm. if i change gear more then 6500rpm... it i will go over the red line.....
so for me.... manual is always more fun.... (i miss my manual civic...)

but for auto... is more relax.... is more like a euro should be... (i think)

Catcha
14-12-2004, 01:54 PM
Go manual...nothing beats a manual for that driving experience, took one for a drive, fell in love, the short shift of the 6 speed is amazing and smooth, you may get the sh*ts in the city driving a manual but once you open it up on the highway it's great. Do you plan to mod it go manual also

gundam
14-12-2004, 06:31 PM
Only came off an Euro Manual recently, and don't know if you guys notice it: the accelerator is really jerky, coupling with manual tranny, it is impossible to drive smoothly unless you shift up at <2000 rpm. When I went into my new car earlier this month people commented that all of a sudden I've become such a smoother driver...

BTW, I also noticed that if you put non-premimum fuel into the Euro it is a bit smoother to shift, perharps due to the engine management tunning itself down a bit...

coladuna
14-12-2004, 06:37 PM
Only came off an Euro Manual recently, and don't know if you guys notice it: the accelerator is really jerky, coupling with manual tranny, it is impossible to drive smoothly unless you shift up at <2000 rpm. When I went into my new car earlier this month people commented that all of a sudden I've become such a smoother driver...

Sorry dude, but it's just your driving skill.
No problem with jerky shifts here at all and the Euro is my first manual car too.
Only been driving it for a bit over 2 months now and I have no such problem.

Slugoid
14-12-2004, 09:42 PM
I think it's to do with the drive by wire throttle system, cos some people say it's a bit weird. I always think auto is smoother, but manual always has an edge in performance. I have an auto Euro (not my choice), but if I had a choice, I would always get the manual. Depends on what you're after in a car. I know some Euro owners chose the auto cos they wanted something relaxing to drive after many years of driving manual, but most owners here want a mix of performance and comfort, hence manual.

euro77
14-12-2004, 10:05 PM
I've actualy test drive both (manual & auto), and in the end I go for manual because it's more responsive than the auto. As for quality of driving, I find both are the same. Of course sometimes I messed up with the clutch so it's a bit jerky, but other than that the difference is very minimal. you are just more relax in the auto, especially for stop-start traffic :D

EuroAccord13
14-12-2004, 10:43 PM
Each to their own preference.. There are people who like the smoothness of an Auto and those who likes an active left hand....

I've driven both and I like the auto very much too although I am a manual driver.. It is good enough for me to consider driving an auto....

REV888
15-12-2004, 07:19 AM
Each to their own preference.. There are people who like the smoothness of an Auto and those who likes an active left hand....


Very true I suppose I have to make my own mind up about it. Auto test drive here we come I think this Saturday :D :D

aaronng
15-12-2004, 08:27 AM
I notice that when you are on the throttle, say more than 1/4 way down to get more acceleration and have to shift, you have to lift off the throttle first, and then press clutch instead of lifting and pressing clutch at the same time like for other cars. The reason being that if you are heavy on the throttle and lift off, the revs actually rise in order to burn off the excess fuel and stick to LEV requirements.

gundam
15-12-2004, 12:24 PM
sometimes i would release the clutch slowly while accelerating just to smooth out the shifts on the Euro, not just the 1st gear, but all other gears as well.

sure it burns out the clutch, but keeping the in-laws happy is more important.:D

aaronng
15-12-2004, 02:22 PM
Gundam, how do you find the Type S?

gundam
15-12-2004, 02:43 PM
The good: faster, much more powerful, great fuel consumption and a lot more comfortable (hard to believe aint it?).

The bad: useless backseats, next to no storage space, and from the Misses- "no vanity mirror light".

Might like to read my piece in the Integra forum (don't bother reading beyond the 1 page cos the remaining threads are all "I can drive better than you")
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10953&page=1&pp=12

aaronng
15-12-2004, 08:24 PM
Cool. Because when I was sitting in all the Honda cars, I found that the Type R was the only one that could give me that perfect seating position and comfort. Of course, I needed the space and the 4 seating capacity, so I bought the Euro.

razaman
16-12-2004, 05:33 AM
Cool. Because when I was sitting in all the Honda cars, I found that the Type R was the only one that could give me that perfect seating position and comfort. Of course, I needed the space and the 4 seating capacity, so I bought the Euro.
Damn that sucks, what about the DB8? 4 door Type R!!:thumbsup:

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjkwNzUyNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

Raz

aaronng
16-12-2004, 06:57 AM
Honda Australia!!!! 4-Door Type R please!!!!!