Wheels

[Engin09]

ok. im going to make this thread especially for the s2000.

going to name the 6 wheels that are most common with s2000 drivers

if any1 has had them or has heard about them can they give a review :) and rank em from 1-6 i guess 1 being the best

now.. MY ORDER
1) Bridgstone Adrenalin RE11
2) Dunlop star spec Z1
3) Khumo KU36B (Grip ++++)
4) Bridgstone Adrenalin RE050 (not to sure bout this Tyre)
5) Bridgstone Adrenalin RE001
6) Khumo KU31 (cheap tyres that will do the job :) )


START RANKING THEM
and is it bad to have 225/55/16 on all four corners? and why

and what is the perfect rim for the OEM rim :)

[jbird]

you mean perfect tire for the oem rim?

KU36 bang for bucks. They wear "fast" but at $150ish per corner grip vs performance can't really be beaten.

it should be 50 profile for the rear tires.

the standard S-02's tread was apparently equivalent to 225 on the front and 245 on the rears...but they were superceded by the RE-001s by bridgestone.

I don't think it matters if you run 225 all round, you might have a bit more front grip overall but the car should be fairly balanced, if your scared of fuining the blance run 205/55 on the front and 225/50.

[Engin09]

they dont have 205/55 lol they got 205/45... wtf

[euromandeluxe]

i'm in the market for new rears too - do they make the ku36's in the right size for the ap1 16" rims?

it's either that or the RE001's for me.

[STAiN MASTER]

I might get new tyres soon, im going to get the following RE001's as their's not many options in our 16 inch rim size, its seems 17 and 18 inch rim sizes are a new standard size.
front 215/50 & rear 225/45 if I end up going to pikes peak i mean peats ridge :)

Kumhoes make the following in 16" rim size
215/45
225/50

Running non staggered tyres isnt a bad thing, you'll get a more understeering car or neutral feel, wheel camber and wheel setup toe caster will effect the balance as well, this is more experimental if you know whats going on.

I ran Falkens 452's on my 18's at the track and they felt really good, their not cheap I've heard mixed reviews but in their price range there's prob a better tyre you can buy. they were around 280 a tyre, I ran fronts 215/40/18 rears 245/35/18 I should of ran 225 or even 235 on the fronts rears 245 or 255 would be good.

My ideal setup if I do get rims would be 17x9.5 +38 all round with 255/40 or 245/45 front and 255/40 rears but this is a big IF!

[andiiso]

i got re001 on rear (yokies DB on front) atm and i hate them so, my nex choices are between Michelin Pilot Sport 3, Toyo Proxes R1R, or Yokies S drives (all4s) ... just gonna get standard sizes which i believe are F : 205/55/16 R : 225/50/16

atm leanin more towards R1R and Pilot Sport 3 ..

[STAiN MASTER]

^ OEM size for AP1, 16inch rim size are:

f: 205/55/16
r: 225/50/16

[andiiso]

ah rite, thanks =p closeee !

[vyets]

LOL you should put the Z1 and the RE11 on top of the ku36 bud.
http://www.tirerack.com/

Moar research for youuu :P

And there isn't a "common" "tyre" with the s2000 it's the same with every car really, all comes down to personal preference.

Nothing bad about running 225's all round, it's called a non staggered setup makes your car behave diffrently thats all. I ran 225/50's semi's all round on track and I loved it!

[euromandeluxe]

hey guys, sorry, I thought having a non-staggered setup increased oversteering tendencies, not understeering? more grip at front relative to rear = rears breaking lose more readily? have I missed something?

mann I need rears for the rain.

[vyets]

Yea your spot on, I like my car to oversteer abit more lol.

[JAP-S2K]

Technically running non staggered tyre and rim will lose any understeer characteristics that non staggered setup's have and it will lose the neutral feel the factory setup has (this is setup for your safety), it won't increase oversteer characteristics until you reach the limit of the tyres grip, to which then the rear will break out. Not to many have the balls to drive on the limitations of tyre grip.

As above, give me oversteer anyday!

[vyets]

I retract my last comment, this is MOAR spot on! LOL :)
Believe me.. alot of people "think" they are driving at the limits LOL

[ludecrs]

^ OEM size for AP1, 16inch rim size are:

f: 205/55/16
r: 225/50/16

hmmmm isn't there some funky shit going on with the S-02 compared to everything else?

eg: Our S-02 @ 205/55 isn't actually the same as other 205/55's on the market, but rather is equal to about a 215 or something?

Or am I smoking some good crack?

[vyets]

Nah it's normal man not all tyre sizes are the same some are slightly fatter, like a 255 semi slick is fkn HUGE! compared to a 255 street tyre. That's why sometimes peoples stretch look alot worse then others but they have same size tyre + rim

[STAiN MASTER]

Some tyres which are 205 have the same contact patch as a 215, ludecrs is correct the s02's are like this.

[jbird]

the S-02s have a bigger contact patch for sure ludecrs.

205 = 225 in other brands
225 = 245 in other brands. 8.5" tread width if im not mistaken.

nearly impossible to find that size with the right profile in 16s.

Bridgestone make these:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE960AS+Pole+Position&frontTire=055WR6RE960PP&rearTire=25WR6RE960PP&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Honda&autoYear=2001&autoModel=S2000&autoModClar=

RE960AS Pole Positions. Word is they are pretty decent, dont know if you can get em here tho

[andiiso]

just a question .. can u fit 245 on a 7.5" rim ?

[jbird]

yes you can

[JAP-S2K]

Both my Advan AO-48 and Direzza 03g semi's in 235's are about 10mm wider than my Dunlop Sportmaxx 235's. Go figure.

[STAiN MASTER]

I dont think they make s02's anymore, were they replaced by the RE01's ? and are these tyres good or better then the s02's?

[Engin09]

LOL you should put the Z1 and the RE11 on top of the ku36 bud.

i didnt rank em LOL!

i researched tyres for the last 2 days and learnt quiet abit :)
myne are just there to show the 6 diff tyres.

i wanted people to rank them based on their own opinions of use and other facts. etc..

im perosnally getting the star specs from tyre rack $660 for all four corners delivered to sydney.

great tyre, cheap price aswell. :D

[Nismo3oi]

what sizes did you buy?

[jbird]

he got
205/55/16
225/50/16

Kebab, RE001s are pretty good esp in the dry. I don't really like them in the wet though. They break traction a bit too easily and I'm running 245s on my 17s

[STAiN MASTER]

he got
205/55/16
225/50/16

Kebab, RE001s are pretty good esp in the dry. I don't really like them in the wet though. They break traction a bit too easily and I'm running 245s on my 17s

how do you know that name? lol

[jbird]

its james aka rpf-1 s2000 lol

[STAiN MASTER]

its james aka rpf-1 s2000 lol

ah yes, how you going mate! what are your wheel sizes btw? I was thinking of getting rpf1's... know anyone selling them cheap around here...

[Engin09]

ye i got
205/55/16
225/50/16

thx james ;)

[jbird]

ah yes, how you going mate! what are your wheel sizes btw? I was thinking of getting rpf1's... know anyone selling them cheap around here...

chepeast price i got was $1930 delivered from Gorilla on the jdmstyle forums.

17x9 +45 for four.

I was thinking of buying another set of 9's +45 and selling my 17x8 +45 just for looks sake...Ill have to roll the fronts some more though...Probably will try to run 255/40s on the back and 235/45 on the front if that does happen but cant afford $915 atm.

Tire Rack sells 17x9s for $250US not including shipping.

[DC5TYPER]

Yea your spot on, I like my car to oversteer abit more lol.

Non-Stag is the best. Get your setup right with upgrade front sway bar and its awesome with next to no oversteer. I quite believe it actually gives the car a neutral feeling. You can control both over/understeer with driving style on demand.

Sorry boys I cant go back to stagg setup. :)

[STAiN MASTER]

chepeast price i got was $1930 delivered from Gorilla on the jdmstyle forums.

17x9 +45 for four.

I was thinking of buying another set of 9's +45 and selling my 17x8 +45 just for looks sake...Ill have to roll the fronts some more though...Probably will try to run 255/40s on the back and 235/45 on the front if that does happen but cant afford $915 atm.

Tire Rack sells 17x9s for $250US not including shipping.

That setup should look sweet, if you want to sell 2 of your rims I may know a buyer.

I wanted to get 17x9.5 +38 from evasive 1700 aud delivered for four, not a bad price, but not sure if I should go ahead with it, or just buy new tyres for the stockies.

[Ferrari]

How the hell would you fit 9.5 +38 ??? With your stock body?

[STAiN MASTER]

How the hell would you fit 9.5 +38 ??? With your stock body?

with some fender work of course, the indian guy with the blue s2k that comes to track with us, runs 17x9 +45 with 255/40 and it only slightly rubs.

[vyets]

Non-Stag is the best. Get your setup right with upgrade front sway bar and its awesome with next to no oversteer. I quite believe it actually gives the car a neutral feeling. You can control both over/understeer with driving style on demand.

Sorry boys I cant go back to stagg setup. :)

Yea I been looking for another pair of CE28's 17x9+40 for the front since LOL no luck


17x9.5+38 is doable :P not worth it for rpf01 as the rims goes flat/concave at 17x9+45

[Ferrari]

with some fender work of course, the indian guy with the blue s2k that comes to track with us, runs 17x9 +45 with 255/40 and it only slightly rubs.

Yeah lol, he rubs, and with that offset it still looks weak with RPF1 and your talking about sticking the wheel out even furthur and running another 0.5 inch of width!

[jbird]

How the hell would you fit 9.5 +38 ??? With your stock body?

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=758988&st=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2680/4146545647_51672d3f7c.jpg

Don't think it looks weak at all :p

This guy did it.
"My front fenders are flared out. But.. I am trying to get more aggressive wheels because these are not that "flush" in the front. I am guessing with a slight flare and some camber you can get these to fit. With a smaller tire, these should be much easier to fit.

As for the rears I have rolled fenders and relocated bumper tab. Many ppl have fit 9.5+38 in the rears.

-3.5 camber all round"

I'd go 9.5 +38 ... but I reckon that would have sh*t house handling.

17x9 +45 is perfect. Just need a roll and go especially since I'm not too low.

I'm trying to get more prices from the states hopefully its cheap

[vyets]

I'm running 17x9+40 rears on 255's and no rubbing at all. I did my guards myself so they ain't even that flat as well. I'm gonna re-do em caus I wana go fatter LOL
When I was running the 17x9+44 work emotions I didn't roll nothing and it only scraped on big bumps, and it was scraping the rear bumper not the guard :D

[STAiN MASTER]

Yeah lol, he rubs, and with that offset it still looks weak with RPF1 and your talking about sticking the wheel out even furthur and running another 0.5 inch of width!

You mean it looks weak because the FPF1 dont have a dish?

This looks phat too me, 17x9.5 +38 with 255/40 all round.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4498668920_ca164be41f_b.jpg

We know a guy who rolls and pulls stock fenders really wide without damaging paint he's really good might be able too run 265 in the rears even, without going up to -3.0 deg camber.

[Ferrari]

Weaker in relation to what ce28 look with similar offsetting more concave looking

[vyets]

17x9.5+35 CE28 = concave city!!!! I need that shit LOL
Love that pic and how the tyres stick out! I love meaty ass tyres so fkn aggressive

[Ferrari]

Im searching for new wheels at present so many options... I want 17x9 255 all around, just dont know what offset I can run, I only have rolled front and rear fenders, and shaved bumper tabs, and im not looking to change up to wide fenders or run overfender in rear any time soon.

[vyets]

17x9.5 + 35 all round :D:D do it man!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/vstypicals/bronze_ce28_06.jpg

[STAiN MASTER]

MAD, get the guy who did sho's guards to do your's then you could easly run 17x9.5 +35 255/40, thats about the most you could go i reckon.

[jbird]

Yeah if I had money I'd go CE28Ns... but RPF-1s are 7.2kgs each and half the price of CEs.

That concave is tough!

[Ferrari]

What's the benefit of going with 9.5 inch over a 9 inch if your running 255 on both?

[mtx_teg]

anyone have any pics of an S2000 with 20" rims NOT LOWERED....
im just wondering if i can get away with getting the rims for now with stock suspension and saving up the money for something good.

[Silverstone]

20" on stock height would look ridiculous. stick with stock wheels

BTW How would these look/fit on a s2000 with 1inch drop and what tyres sizes would be best.
17 x 8.5 offset 35 front
17 x 9.5 offset 45 rear

[Engin09]

Wow.. i feel jipped.

i was buying star specs of tire rack, they quote me $213 US for shipping. i say ok all good i plan to buy them, he replies shipping is now $290 wtf? how the **** does it jump by 77$ overnight

[brendan1990]

man that silver s2k looks tough!

[jbird]

20" on stock height would look ridiculous. stick with stock wheels

BTW How would these look/fit on a s2000 with 1inch drop and what tyres sizes would be best.
17 x 8.5 offset 35 front
17 x 9.5 offset 45 rear

20's look ridiculous at any height, no offence.

Don't know how it would look but it would definitely rub even with "only" a 1" drop.
I'd probably run 235/45 on front and 255/40 on rear or 225/45 and 245/40 for less chance of rub.

All corners will need a roll and bumper tab relocation on the rear I reckon.



What's the benefit of going with 9.5 inch over a 9 inch if your running 255 on both?

Just makes it look tougher or as those yanks say "hella flush".

It will probably make your handling worse cause you gotta run excessive negative camber though imo.

Short answer: no benefit apart from aesthetic

[lzybum]

Yea I been looking for another pair of CE28's 17x9+40 for the front since LOL no luck


17x9.5+38 is doable :P not worth it for rpf01 as the rims goes flat/concave at 17x9+45

im running 18x9.5 +38 on the rears! but with stretched 235/40's and about -3.0camber (on stock body)
i rekn u could do that with 17s with 255/40s on and about -3.5* depending on how dropped ur gona be!

my fronts are 17x9 +44 (with a 15mm spacer,so effectively +29 which is basically the same as 17x 9.5 +35)

with the 9+44 the front fenders were getting mangled without the roll.
got the fenders rolled and -1.7* it worked fine.

but with the spacer on, needed to get at least -3.0* to get any clearance with the fender and this was with 225/45's on.
so will be more of a mission to run 255's on 9.5 +38!

[STAiN MASTER]

What's the benefit of going with 9.5 inch over a 9 inch if your running 255 on both?

incase you want to get wider tyres.

[vyets]

8.5" can also run 255's :P Mainly for looks I guess since the 9.5+35 will be easier to fit since the 255's stretch on the 9.5 on a 9+22 its harder to fit, that's if they're going for the concave look.

[jbird]

For hard parking purposes basically lol

[Ferrari]

I think for CE28 I will be going 17x9 front +54 and 17x9 + 40 rear.

[STAiN MASTER]

I think for CE28 I will be going 17x9 front +54 and 17x9 + 40 rear.

Sounds good mad, what tyres will you be getting?

[vyets]

Should buy VEL's (DC5TYPER) ce28's his got 17x9+54 all round with heaps of tread left on his KU36.. however not too sure if it's sold :P

[sho]

Im searching for new wheels at present so many options... I want 17x9 255 all around, just dont know what offset I can run, I only have rolled front and rear fenders, and shaved bumper tabs, and im not looking to change up to wide fenders or run overfender in rear any time soon.

as vyets said +35 is the way to go
im planning to go +35 as well :D

maybe we can get them shipped together mad ;)

not ce28's but yea they are +35
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3147/2842166564_2b021e69e2.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/2841329909_ffbf400a7f.jpg

[Ferrari]

Should buy VEL's (DC5TYPER) ce28's his got 17x9+54 all round with heaps of tread left on his KU36.. however not too sure if it's sold :P

I was thinking of getting these, but +54 looks a bit weak in the rear, and there not ti silver in colour.

[DC5TYPER]

You wont be saying that when your tires keep throwing dirt on rocks on your paintwork. My fronts do that. But the rears dont.

Plus best advantage of NON-Stag is you can evenly rotate wheels front and back. Running different offset changes that. You might as well run 17x10 in the rear.

[DC5TYPER]

Should buy VEL's (DC5TYPER) ce28's his got 17x9+54 all round with heaps of tread left on his KU36.. however not too sure if it's sold :P

Not sold. I will be selling with the car for the time being.

I drove with stock wheels for a short time and nearly threw up at how bad the difference is.

17x9 non stag FTW!

[Ferrari]

You wont be saying that when your tires keep throwing dirt on rocks on your paintwork. My fronts do that. But the rears dont.

Plus best advantage of NON-Stag is you can evenly rotate wheels front and back. Running different offset changes that. You might as well run 17x10 in the rear.

how does running non staggered but different offset front and rear affect your ability to rotate tyres front and rear?

[jbird]

how does running non staggered but different offset front and rear affect your ability to rotate tyres front and rear?

It doesn't. But rotations would involve taking the tires off as opposed to just switching your wheels from side to side, front to back.

[vyets]

unless the offset can fit both front and rear for eg. +63 rear and +53 front, if you switch it around it's still fine :P

[Ferrari]

It doesn't. But rotations would involve taking the tires off as opposed to just switching your wheels from side to side, front to back.

I get you, I'm on low carbs and didn't think about that. +40 all round is the go I'd say. If you guys think you can daily with +35 on stock body I'd love to see it!

[JAP-S2K]

Everything is possibly, No way on this earth you'll fit 9" +35 and run 255 without flaring the factory guard to the B.S.

[jbird]

Apart from flaring to the sh*t house and running loads of neg camber I don't think it will do much for your handling unless you run a widebody - all good if you just want to park your car and look cool lol

lmao at low carbs - I'm still bulking...summers so far away

[JAP-S2K]

Not sure if anybody has been keeping an eye open on these, but to those track freaks out there... 949 Racing in the states, i believe have just about released the long anticipated 6ULR rim, available in a 17"x10". So it should keep all the track freaks happy. Hopefully i'll get my hands on a set soon enough, but i think there could be a large waiting time on these, not sure yet. Offset's are made to suit S2K with +52 and +72 being offered in the 10" width. You can also run a 10" rim on the front, but only in the +52 offset, obviously front guards need to have seen rolling and slight push outwards, which also means 265 on the front with a 275/285 on the rear. Very reasonable priced too at $289US a rim. More info can be found on S2Ki.

[jbird]

JAP - check this link out. MX-5 Centre is distributing the wheels here.

17x9 +63 $375 Each
17x10 +72 $425 Each
17x10 +52 $425 Each

http://forum.jdmstyletuning.com/showthread.php?t=23940

[JAP-S2K]

Awesome stuff. Thanks buddy, time to turf my Gramlights.

[sho]

Apart from flaring to the sh*t house and running loads of neg camber I don't think it will do much for your handling unless you run a widebody - all good if you just want to park your car and look cool lol

lmao at low carbs - I'm still bulking...summers so far away


nothing wrong with camber
+35 u would need around -3.5 (from what others are running which isn't bad considering i'm already on -3 camber)
widebody would be +22 :D :D :D

[doosra]

Just picked up some 2nd hand 17" white work emotions cr-kai rims... bargain price of $600 (without tyres) woot woot...

the shop i got it from has another set of ray's engineering chrome wheels that looked almost identical to the work cr kai with very good bridgestone rubber left for only $750 if anyone is interested in getting a set. Think they were 17 x 7 +52 offset.. non staggered set. Immaculate condition..

[jbird]

Just picked up some 2nd hand 17" white work emotions cr-kai rims... bargain price of $600 (without tyres) woot woot...

the shop i got it from has another set of ray's engineering chrome wheels that looked almost identical to the work cr kai with very good bridgestone rubber left for only $750 if anyone is interested in getting a set. Think they were 17 x 7 +52 offset.. non staggered set. Immaculate condition..

7" is not even as wide as the standard wheels...

[doosra]

yeah.. that's why i decided to get the work cr kai ones even though the Ray's wheels were in awesome condition..

[euromandeluxe]

yeah.. that's why i decided to get the work cr kai ones even though the Ray's wheels were in awesome condition..

nice, what size are the works you got? good price if they fit well

[ludecrs]

The white ones off ebay? $690?

[doosra]

yeah the ebay ones.. they fit well.. they're 17 x 8, +42 and +47 offset.

[ludecrs]

I considered picking them up.

Nice size, and good price.

Great buy!

[doosra]

the guy is getting a batch of about 60-70 new rims in the coming weeks from japan.. he sold them for cheap cause new stock was coming in and he was just clearing space..

[STAiN MASTER]

the guy is getting a batch of about 60-70 new rims in the coming weeks from japan.. he sold them for cheap cause new stock was coming in and he was just clearing space..

Does he have a website, does he list the wheels there?

[doosra]

i'm not sure whether this is allowed cause it's free advertising.. but i personally do not know this guy.. just though u guys might be interested..

http://www.thetyreking.com.au/

if you want to see what he's got, you can ask him to send you a document of the wheels that are coming in..

[doosra]

what do you guys think will look better on my work emotion CR Kai - long blue nuts or short blue nuts?

[vyets]

Hrm on a 17x8+42 and 47 I think it's best to get the Long type ones, as the short ones will sit too far inside the hole :)

[doosra]

gotcha.. so offset means the width of the centre part of the rim yeah? i was never too sure.

[vyets]

Nah lol read this http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com/Wheel_Fitment_Guide.cfm

Anyway reason why I recommended long nuts is because with ur wheel size the hole where the nuts go in is deep because of the style of the wheel along with it's offset.

These were my 17x9+44 see how the nuts stick out, it's because the rim is concaving it's a 17x9 +44 so the long type wheel nuts are sticking outside.
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3582/nutsrc9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
My fronts were 17x8+47 and it's a non concave so the center is deep and the wheel nut is inside the edge.
This is the best shot I have of the front rim it's not that clear but lol
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/9219/img8477ri7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It's different with all rims of coarse.

[doosra]

yeah, that makes sense... are they project kics nuts?