2005 YM Honda Accord Euro Spec Changes

[gundam]

Accord Euro (Stnd) Full Size Spare Wheel (16 inch)

Accord Euro Luxury 17 inch Alloy Wheels+ Low profile tyre + Full Size Spare Wheel

Milano Red has replaced Royal Ruby Red Pearl.

As Milano Red is a flat paint, the recommended retail price has been adjusted to $33,991 for Accord Euro Stnd (M/T) and $40,541 for Accord Euro Luxury (M/T).

[evolution42]

do you know if it will come with the illuminated multi-function steering wheel?


also, do you know if the new wheel design for the luxury model is this (also note the new "deep green" colour which i think only JDM gets):

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/style/deepgreen-p/deepgreen-p.jpg


or perhaps this?:
http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/style/satinsilver-m/satinsilver-m.jpg

[Slugoid]

I prefer the five spoke rims on the silver one more.

So not fair...17" for luxury and full sized spare. Oh well, I did get the Accord around a year ago...

[SiR]

The one on the bottom looks awesome!! Very similar to the aftermarket rims I have on my current ride. :thumbsup:

Looks like it's time to pay the showroom a visit! ;)

[yfin]

Those pics are nice but are not a stock Euro with 17" - those pics are lowered Euros at least 1".

[REV888]

When will the 2005 models be on the market for sale ?

[evolution42]

Those pics are nice but are not a stock Euro with 17" - those pics are lowered Euros at least 1".are you sure? those pics came straight off Honda Japan's website. I may be wrong, but i don't think they would lower their cars for stock-model photography...

you can check for yourself, heres the link: http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/style/index.html

maybe because they are low-profile, u may think the car looks lowered...

[yfin]

are you sure? those pics came straight off Honda Japan's website. I may be wrong, but i don't think they would lower their cars for stock-model photography...

you can check for yourself, heres the link: http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/style/index.html

maybe because they are low-profile, u may think the car looks lowered...Sorry - I should clarify - they are legit Honda pictures but they are not what your Aus delivered Honda Accord Euro will look like with 17" rims. I don't think Honda has changed the suspension on the 05 model - the wheel arch gap will look more like this (my ride - no suspension mods)...I wish mine had the small gap in those photos -- see what I mean? The pics you are showing are the same drop as a Eibach Prokit. It could be trick photography or it could be a different suspension set up

http://users.tpg.com.au/yoram/2.jpg

http://users.tpg.com.au/yoram/7.jpg

[Reagan]

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/style/deepgreen-p/deepgreen-p.jpg

There is some dude in cabramatta driving this around =)
is it already out?

[evolution42]

Sorry - I should clarify - they are legit Honda pictures but they are not what your Aus delivered Honda Accord Euro will look like with 17" rims. I don't think Honda has changed the suspension on the 05 model - the wheel arch gap will look more like this (my ride - no suspension mods)...I wish mine had the small gap in those photos -- see what I mean? The pics you are showing are the same drop as a Eibach Prokit. It could be trick photography or it could be a different suspension set up yfin:wow the gap between the two is quite noticable... another thing is the bodykit mite add to this 'lowered' illusion...

to everyone else: do you guys like the look of these 7-spoke wheels? would u rather have this design or a 17" version of the ones that come with the 03/04 euro's?

i reckon the nicest wheels for the euro are the Acura TSX's "Silverstar" wheels...:D

[SiR]

yfin:wow the gap between the two is quite noticable... another thing is the bodykit mite add to this 'lowered' illusion...

to everyone else: do you guys like the look of these 7-spoke wheels? would u rather have this design or a 17" version of the ones that come with the 03/04 euro's?

i reckon the nicest wheels for the euro are the Acura TSX's "Silverstar" wheels...:D
Nah mate - that wouldn't have anything to do with it. We're talking about the gap between the top of the tyre and the guard ;)

Both the 7-spoke and 5 double spoke rims looks good imo. The 7-spoke seems more 'elegant', whereas the 5 double spoke seems more 'sporty'.

[EuroAccord13]

FULL SIZE SPARE???? Grrrrrr.........

[LOC888]

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/style/deepgreen-p/deepgreen-p.jpg

There is some dude in cabramatta driving this around =)
is it already out?Hey were you refering to this one.
http://members.westnet.com.au/loc888/euro1.jpg
http://members.westnet.com.au/loc888/euro2.jpg
I drive through Cabra on my way to work.
Friend of mine spoke to Honda Aust about the EuroR, and the reason why they havent released the EuroR in Aust. is because the reckon there wont be enough sales to justify them doing crash tests etc.. to bring over the car. What a load of BS, if they had released the EuroR here, Id buy it.

[SiR]

Why would they need to do separate crash tests for the EuroR when the Euro is already sold over here?

[LOC888]

I still think its bs, but my guess is that the EuroR has a different engine and specs to the accord Euro ie CL7 and CL9.

[Thorn2004]

As usual I always buy too eary, wonder if I get my 16 inch rims traded in for the new 17 inch rims? Not too worried about the space saver tyre issue, don't plan on having too many flats and if I do it only has to last untill you get to a repair shop anyhow!

[Pum[Z]]

Full size spare... Glad they rectified that..

Yeah the pics of the 05 euro's is definetly lowered. If it was standard the wheel arch gaps would surely be bigger. My car looked like a 4wd when i first put in my aftermarket alloys unlowered as well....

They do that a lot in car advertisments or pictures. Same deal with tint, they put real dark tint on which make it look so nice.. But in reality is illegal...

[aaronng]

Can someone find out if they modified the spare wheel well for the '05 model to fit the full sized spare? Or is it just a case of dropping a full size into the existing sized wheel well?

[yfin]

Can someone find out if they modified the spare wheel well for the '05 model to fit the full sized spare? Or is it just a case of dropping a full size into the existing sized wheel well?I am not sure why people think the space saver is such a problem. How often do you get a flat tyre?

I still have 4 x 16" stock alloy Euro rims available - are people interested in those to buy on an individual rim basis? If there is interest PM me and I will put a post in for sale section. I assumed people wouldn't want individual rims but now seeing the comments about the space saver..... I don't see the problem with space saver in the city.. each to their own.

[gundam]

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/style/satinsilver-m/satinsilver-m.jpg
Got confirmation- it is this one. As noted by others this is not an Oz spec car, but I do imagine a Aussie car to be sitting on similar ride height due to suspension changes and lower profile tyres.

[PERTH_EURO]

As usual I always buy too eary, wonder if I get my 16 inch rims traded in for the new 17 inch rims? Not too worried about the space saver tyre issue, don't plan on having too many flats and if I do it only has to last untill you get to a repair shop anyhow!space saver... pfffft just took up room where my doof doof was going, now its just wasting space in my garage :D

LOC888 is that your car???
Is it the 'o5 model??
Whats the go im confused, but you have a different grill!!

[SiR]

Nice choice by Honda Australia.

[yfin]

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/style/satinsilver-m/satinsilver-m.jpg
Got confirmation- it is this one. As noted by others this is not an Oz spec car, but I do imagine a Aussie car to be sitting on similar ride height due to suspension changes and lower profile tyres.
Did you hear confirmation of suspension changes or is that an assumption? I would be very interested to know of a confirmed suspension change

[aaronng]

I am not sure why people think the space saver is such a problem. How often do you get a flat tyre?

I still have 4 x 16" stock alloy Euro rims available - are people interested in those to buy on an individual rim basis? If there is interest PM me and I will put a post in for sale section. I assumed people wouldn't want individual rims but now seeing the comments about the space saver..... I don't see the problem with space saver in the city.. each to their own.

Was just wondering. I'm a technical guy, if they had to modify the well, that means the chassis should be modified as well.

Anyway, those nice twin-5spoke rims are the ones that come on the JDM Accord. I like them.

[gundam]

Did you hear confirmation of suspension changes or is that an assumption? I would be very interested to know of a confirmed suspension change
Confirmed suspension tweak because of the new tyre size and profile.

[cybermivec]

Once the new euro arrives and parts are avaliable. It will be possible for older euro owners to purchase the foan surrouns that fill the spare wheel well and then obtain the newer full size spare. I know Honda dealers can currently does this with the new Integra, the Civic hybrid etc.

Also all models both stnd and lux will recieve the 17", honda havent mentioned any suspension changes.

[LOC888]

LOC888 is that your car???
Is it the 'o5 model??
Whats the go im confused, but you have a different grill!!Yeah its my car. its the 04' model. I got the euroR kit and grille imported from Japan. This kit comes standard on the Jap Accord 24s (which is the silver on shown above)

[coladuna]

Yeah its my car. its the 04' model. I got the euroR kit and grille imported from Japan. This kit comes standard on the Jap Accord 24s (which is the silver on shown above)
Damn. That's one fine looking Grahpite Pearl Euro. *drools* I thought it was just some pic you found on the net. Do you mind if I ask you how much it cost you and how you imported those from Japan?

[Reagan]

Hey were you refering to this one.

http://members.westnet.com.au/loc888/euro2.jpg
I drive through Cabra on my way to work.
Friend of mine spoke to Honda Aust about the EuroR, and the reason why they havent released the EuroR in Aust. is because the reckon there wont be enough sales to justify them doing crash tests etc.. to bring over the car. What a load of BS, if they had released the EuroR here, Id buy it.
Yeah It looks like that, Always see it on my way to college lol
I was pretty envious cause its different lol

[Newgas]

Also all models both stnd and lux will recieve the 17", honda havent mentioned any suspension changes.Hi all....been lurking the forums for a while now, interesting stuff! About time I put up a post.

Picking up my new 05 Standard Euro Thrusday afternoon...I can confirm that it is fitted with 16" wheels (and full size spare)....17"'s are for luxury models.

Cheers.

[evolution42]

congrats on ur new euro! you must be the first one around here to have an 05 model if im not mistaken...

Has the wheel design on the standard 16" euro changed?

Also, can you fully confirm which design the luxury 17" euro is?


http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/style/deepgreen-p/deepgreen-p.jpg
or
http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/style/satinsilver-m/satinsilver-m.jpg
thx! and enjoy ur new car! :wave: :thumbsup:

[Alpine]

Does this mean Honda dealerships are now selling the '05 model with the larger rims on the Luxury? There's no waiting time?

[aaronng]

Congrats mate! You're the first here with an 05' spec!

[Nikoy]

Hi all....been lurking the forums for a while now, interesting stuff! About time I put up a post.

Picking up my new 05 Standard Euro Thrusday afternoon...I can confirm that it is fitted with 16" wheels (and full size spare)....17"'s are for luxury models.

Cheers.

what colour is it ive bought mine but iam not getting it till second week of january to get 05 compliance.

I got the new millano red.

its just a standard accord euro 6MT. With factory floor mats for 34k drive away iam so stoked cant wait to get it.

[Newgas]

Thanks for the congrats evolution42 and aaronng!

I do not know if the the wheel design has changed, haven't seen it yet! Same with the design for the luxury. I will confirm on Thursday. I've had my Euro on order since mid October, the dealer advised me to wait for the 05 model as I was in no hurry. I have no idea on current waiting times. I will post some pics if there are any differences.

Nikoy, its Graphite Pearl, Standard 6MT with Fog Lights, Mats and tint.

[Reagan]

when will the euro be a coupe =)
just like the civic sedan

[Newgas]

Has the wheel design on the standard 16" euro changed?Just got back from the dealer with my brand new 05 standard euro....very pleased indeed. The standard rims are unchanged.



Also, can you fully confirm which design the luxury 17" euro is?There was a 05 luxury also waiting pick up....can confirm it had these wheels fitted. There looked very smart...didnt check size specs and salesman didn't know if they will be available as an option down the track.


http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/style/satinsilver-m/satinsilver-m.jpg

[Alpine]

I also checked an '05 Euro Luxury out today at the dealership. I can confirm that those 17" rims above are the ones that come on the Aussie model, however it is not lowered at all from the '04 model. The picture above looks a little lowered. The actual car being sold is not that low. You could fit a chicken under that wheel arch! But overall it looks alot more in proportion with the 17" wheels compared to the 16" wheels on the '04.

[Newgas]

Here are some shots of the full sized spare in my standard 05 euro. I think the foam spacer is the only difference...haven't seen earlier model to compare with. Other than this, I dont think there are any other changes in this model.

Anyway...cars been in the garage for an hour....need to go for another drive!! :D

http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/newgas/boot.jpg
http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/newgas/boot2.jpg

[bigdongers]

Thanks for the pics. If only the Euro came with full size spares from the start. I reckon it would have won wheels car of the year instead of the RX8.

Can you confirm if the 05 has illuminated steering wheel controls and what other changes there are?

[Alpine]

Can you confirm if the 05 has illuminated steering wheel controls and what other changes there are?
Hey BD ;)

I couldn't tell if it had illumated steering wheel controls or not. The 05 I saw was actually in the holding yard at the back of the dealership and it was locked. I say it must have just arrived at this dealership and was due to be prepared for display on the showroom floor. The showroom floor still had 04 models on display.

Perhaps the dude who posted all the pics can answer your question! :)

[vteccoupe]

I prefer the five spoke rims on the silver one more.

So not fair...17" for luxury and full sized spare. Oh well, I did get the Accord around a year ago...
the 5spoke rims look similar to those found on the euro R...just that euro R rims has a gunmetal color :thumbsup:

[Newgas]

Can you confirm if the 05 has illuminated steering wheel controls and what other changes there are?My dark environment photo skills are not the best...the lights are not as bright and saturated as in the photo. Other side is same.

http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/newgas/dash.jpg

[REV888]

My dark environment photo skills are not the best...the lights are not as bright and saturated as in the photo. Other side is same.

http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/newgas/dash.jpg

Does this not happen on 04 models ? Steering Wheel button lights up

[Type R Positive]

Does this not happen on 04 models ? Steering Wheel button lights up Nah man, 04 models don't have this.

This is a cool, handy feature but you get to know where the buttons are and what they do anyway.

I guess they had to change something - it is hard to improve on perfection! :D

[REV888]

I guess they had to change something - it is hard to improve on perfection! :D

All to right! :D :D ;)

[Kenny-C]

Anyone got pics of the new 17inch alloys on the new 05's luxury accord?

[exISeuro]

Merry Xmas DooDs !!

My cousin picked up a silver 05 euro lux c/w kit + wing.

The tyres are bridgestone re040's ... didnt catch the size (sorry)
He says the stereo controls do light up, but i didnt manage to see them (sorry)

mP3 player is still optional, not standard.

[Alpine]

Anyone got pics of the new 17inch alloys on the new 05's luxury accord?The look exactly like this:

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/style/satinsilver-m/satinsilver-m.jpg

[exISeuro]

http://www.ozhonda.com/gallery/data/500/2524DSC06026.JPG

http://www.ozhonda.com/gallery/data/500/2524DSC06029.JPG

http://www.ozhonda.com/gallery/data/500/2524DSC06031.JPG

ok there they are, i finally figured out how to do it.

Ride height seems identical.

[yfin]

Confirmed suspension tweak because of the new tyre size and profile.
Gundam - exISeuro has just posted picks of the 05 euro - where is the confirmed suspension tweak? The ride height looks exactly like the 04 euro.

[bigdongers]

Those new rims look so much better than the originals. More sporty and goes with the bodykit real well

[gundam]

Gundam - exISeuro has just posted picks of the 05 euro - where is the confirmed suspension tweak? The ride height looks exactly like the 04 euro.From what I can gather, the tweak is to accommodate the change in camber angle of the lower profile tyres, not to lower ride height.

[LOC888]

Nah man, 04 models don't have this.

This is a cool, handy feature but you get to know where the buttons are and what they do anyway.

I guess they had to change something - it is hard to improve on perfection! :D
I wonder if we get these illuminated buttons installed on the o4 model?

[LOC888]

http://www.ozhonda.com/gallery/data/500/2524DSC06026.JPG

http://www.ozhonda.com/gallery/data/500/2524DSC06029.JPG

http://www.ozhonda.com/gallery/data/500/2524DSC06031.JPG

ok there they are, i finally figured out how to do it.

Ride height seems identical.
Very nice! :thumbsup: Is that silver one missing a rear lip skirt? How much is Honda charging for those rims?

[exISeuro]

I dont know what the attraction is with the illuminated steering wheel controls.

You'd think a person would know exactly which button does what, and where exactly that button is whether in light of day or darkness of night.

People who think lit up controls are useful must look for the indicator stalks / windscreen wiper stalks everytime they use them

No offence anyone :)

LOC-888: Yes that car is missing the rear skirt, IMO your car looks superior.

Mano.

[McChook]

They look like Euro R wheels to me......
Which sucks because they look like mine......

[yfin]

Confirmed suspension tweak because of the new tyre size and profile.
I had a close look at the new rims and Euro today. The ride height between the 05 and 04 Euro is exactly the same.

[baboo]

what's the tyre size and load rating?

225/45/R17 91V or smaller?

[yfin]

what's the tyre size and load rating?

225/45/R17 91V or smaller?You got it exactly and they are Bridgestone Potenzas. The rims and the tyres look good. Not as nice to look at as my Prodrives but hey - they still look good. I imagine they are not too heavy either - my guess is around 9.5kg. The extras on the Luxury now make it too good a value proposition to refuse over the standard model. If I purchased a Euro now I would find the extra $6000 to get the lux.

[fabcat]

Merry Xmas DooDs !!

My cousin picked up a silver 05 euro lux c/w kit + wing.

The tyres are bridgestone re040's ... didnt catch the size (sorry)
...
.

Did a bit of quick research. Bridgestone Potenza RE040's do not seem to get good reviews on anything other than in the dry. They seem to be poor in the wet and wear out relatively quickly. Is this just to be expected for an OEM tyre. I expect it is all relative though. Compared to your normal cheap family car tyres, they are probably very good.

These tyres seem to get fitted to a number of lux-sport makes - lexus, bmw, etc.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE040

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=UHP

http://www.1010tires.com/tirereviews/Bridgestone_Potenza_RE040_tire_reviews.html

[ABS121]

I called Honda parts at two different dealerships and they both quoted, $605 per rim.

Wonder how much it would cost, and if it is possible at all to upgrade the steering wheel buttons. yes yes i know its easy to remember the location of the buttons, but it looks very nice.