Prelude VTi-R stock performance?

[SiR CRX]

I am just wondering how the 4th gen Prelude VTi-R goes in stock form as I am thinking of getting a manual one. I don't plan to go too nuts on it at the moment but maybe a bodykit and wheels as long as the stock performance is reasonable. I know it has the H22A which I believe is a great engine but the Prelude is quite heavy so I am unsure of how it would go.

Cheers :honda:

[h22a accord]

h22a should keep you happy for a while, they are a very flexible engine.

I have a h22a in my accord and it does an easy peasy 0-100 in 7 sec flat.

as for mods, put in a panel filter or CAI and get a catback exhaust, will go a little better and sound great.

[bigteethygrin]

4th gen isnt as heavy as most ppl think.. it takes off quite well and the gear ratios are quite short so you wont really feel it getting bogged down. The engine performs much better than most people expect. I know I've surprised a few ppl on the road on occasions.

I think the main concern should be the realiability of the features that the 4th gen comes with. make sure everything is working ok.. eg 4WS ABS A/C SRS etc.. i know a few ppl who have been burnt with this stuff inc myself

[Sp3rMz]

If you have any concerns on a car, just get a RACV check. :thumbsup:

[SiR CRX]

I don't rate RACV checks. I have had one in the past and they failed to pick up on a lot of things such as a transmission leak, oil leak and the fact that the car ran very hot all the time.

[preludacris]

Are u in melb?? I dun wanna be competing with u for the best Vti'rs on the market as im looking for one aswell!!
And they quite limited i can tell u!!
They are awsome cars, quicker than 5th gen vtir's too, oh and if u do get one....plz dun ruin it with a huge as UGLY bodykit like so many pplz have.
respect the curves that came from the factory ;)

[GenV]

There are a few more gen 4 vtirs in melb now than there was about a year ago. I was looking for about 4 months for a black/blue gen 4 vtir lude and couldn't find anything less than 180 k's.....Ended up getting a gen 5 lude, but yeah, the gen 4 is definately quicker, stock for stock.

[Sp3rMz]

I don't rate RACV checks. I have had one in the past and they failed to pick up on a lot of things such as a transmission leak, oil leak and the fact that the car ran very hot all the time.
Don't they fix things they miss for free?

[preludacris]

There have been some good examples up for sale recently. Although, If you see one with low k's, u better be quick, they are snatched up in a week or 2. It is also getting harder to find a good condition manual stock lude these days.

[McChook]

Go and drive one and judge for yourself - anking for opinions is stupid in this case

[PimpINjock]

I got a 1994 V-TIR and its done 121 000 Ks. Stock performance is good but u gotta remember that its not a drag car its made for racing. U can fling it in a corner quick and the h22a low down torque can launch out quickly as well. As for straight line performance it comes down to technique. Stock as a rock some ppl get between 15.5-15.8. Depends on ur tires and when u shift. Never shift at redline on all gears!!!!
Great cars though. Good looks, good performance and plenty of street cred. Watch for bad oil maintenence and like others said things like 4ws is workin.

[JDM Element]

I think the 4th gen could definatlely run quicker than 15.5. Many in stock form can pull 15.1, then again its all about technique. Some fools are pulling low to mid 16's!!!!

The stock performance is absolutely superb, but this is also taking into account that the prelude is quite refined straight from the factory. So if u plan to mod it, be aware u aint gonna pull too many ponies that easily......unless u nos and turbo charge......
imo turbo is not honda's style, stay nA!

[Speeder]

get staeroads to do the car inspection, its a 5 page detailed analysis compared to 2 page NRMA report. they operate on eastern australia atm.
here are the details.

Melbourne:Tel: 03 9885 8000



Email: stateroads@stateroads.com (stateroads@stateroads.com)




P.O. Box 313 Mont Albert 3127 Vic

Sydney:1300 737 450
02 9872 1994
Email: adminsydney@stateroads.com

Brisbane:Tel: 07 3367 8000
07 5539 3999
Fax: 07 5539 3999

[bumhole]

i think your wrong buddy.. how can the gen 5 be slower than the gen 4... lets challenge

[bumhole]

look buddy... how can the gen5 be slower than the gen4... i think you and i should meet up and challenge....

[bumhole]

look buddy... i dunno wot your thinking... how can the gen5 be slower than the gen4... i think thats jus wrong mate.... wanna challenge??

:honda: :wave:

[nam]

name me a place and time and i'll give u a run

[bumhole]

2 clock tonite NAM!!
At Noble maccas!!
Me and you and the lights!
Pink slips

[G33K]

LOL you two are funny. Specially since you only just signed up. Remember to check out www.preludeaustralia.com (http://www.preludeaustralia.com)


Also, as for which is faster stock for stock, it has been argued b4. Dont just drag a 4th gen and think your better than him/her.......they might not be as good a driver as you (or even trying). Lastly, they both have the h22a, therefore pull the same amount of power........its just that the 5th gen is heavier. You do the maths.

Also, 4th gens rule! lol

[lengjaiboy]

My mate has owned both a 4th gen vti-r and a 5th gen.. and he says that the 4th gen was much faster..

howeva the 4th gen was manual and the 5th gen was tiptronic.. :confused:

[91'lude]

5th gens have the newer revision h22a, over the 4th gens h22a1, and the h22z in the newest 5th gens, they will beet a 4th gen in a drag, and they are alot faster through the bends.

DMT's stock 5th gen was running 15.4 on the quarter, you could possibly break into the high 14's with the right launch.

And concidering the weight difference is like 50 kg tops, i cant see it making a whole hell of difference, the 5th gens usually have the advantage of the newer engine, being in better condition.

[bigteethygrin]

5th gens cae out with different gearratios too didnt they??

just another consideration

[91'lude]

Yeah, they had 2 series, 1997-1998, than 1999 onwards, im not sure of the actually differences tho. Something cosmetic i think.

[azjs]

[QUOTE=91'lude]5th gens have the newer revision h22a, over the 4th gens h22a1, and the h22z in the newest 5th gens, they will beet a 4th gen in a drag, and they are alot faster through the bends.
[QUOTE]

Incorrect - stock vs stock, the 4th gen will beat the 5th gen because of its closer ratios, despite the ~10hp difference in hp.

-az

[McChook]

[QUOTE=91'lude]5th gens have the newer revision h22a, over the 4th gens h22a1, and the h22z in the newest 5th gens, they will beet a 4th gen in a drag, and they are alot faster through the bends.
[QUOTE]

Incorrect - stock vs stock, the 4th gen will beat the 5th gen because of its closer ratios, despite the ~10hp difference in hp.

-azTechnically incorrect. 4th gen will beat a 5th gen to 100km/hr, but a 5th gen will beat a 4th gen to 180km/hr......

Which is faster - well, both have their advantages - 5th gen has more top end and a better 3rd and 4th gear with with tall 1st and 2nd gears, but 4th gen has best 1st and 2nd gear with a 3rd and 4th that get too long

[91'lude]

Lets just say there both good :P

[h22a accord]

these are the gear ratios for the preludes.

im a happy boy with the M2B4 gearbox in me cordy.

http://img85.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img85&image=specs5xo.png

[azjs]

Nice link cam thanks for that

-az

[WPN.22R]

if i can remember correctly my gearbox was stamped M2F5 can anybody shed some light on this? ive talked to many people about this and nobody seems to know!

and a looong time ago when my car was standard, i raced this guy on the m5 once from the lights and once from 80k onwards.... he never caught up or came close to me... both cars stock and i beat him up to 160k then we slowed down.

i was always 3/4 car ahead.