Civic trade in

[mugeneration]

hey guys, i was just thinking of trading in my 96 Gli for a 95 Vti. The Vti costs $9990. Alternatively, i was thinking of dropping a Vtec into my car, but I'm not sure as to the length of trouble, as well as costs and legalities of such a practice are. If anyone could provide any advice, or even offer any other advise of other cars to get (under 10 grand, Im a student), it would be very helpful.

thanks

[mytoycivic]

if you want go the Si, will flog a VTi any day mate...:)

EDIT: and wont cost you as much...about $8-9000

[Weq]

i wouldnt pay more then 7k for a Si sedan. they are becomming quite dated now, nothing like the quality of the VTi

[VTEChnique]

if you want go the Si, will flog a VTi any day mate...:)

EDIT: and wont cost you as much...about $8-9000

Why ohh why do the Si owners always say that ??? I never EVER had a ZC-powered EG (or CRX) beat my SOHC VTEC D16Y1. the DOHC ZC did always beat me JUST untill I hit VTEC then bye bye ZC.

The Si in EG was only sold for model year 1992 and maybe 93, and was replaced by the VTi in model year 94. so yeah the Si's are the oldest EG's.
the Si's with all electrics and 4-wheel disc brakes etc same as VTi, but correct me if i'm wrong, the VTi has a few extra features over the Si - such as sunroof etc. plus the VTi is the ONLY civic in the world with 3 sun-visors !!

[egSi]

i second that bede, although in opposite, i have never been beaten by a vti eg or ek in my stock as Si. vtec or no vtec ownage from the start but thats just my expericence.

i would have to say it all comes down to the driver dude. when considering performance of either model. what on paper is faster?

id love to race u when u had the d16 in ur vti bede:D ;) for shit and giggles

vtis are good IMO, the fact that u get a sunroof is bitchin but Si's ARE rarer and are also lovely lil machine, nothing wrong with the vti tho.:)

im sellin my Si with a few mods and 140 000ks for about 10K.

[VTEChnique]

hmm very interesting Trav.. the only non DOHC VTEC civic that ever beat me when I had the SOHC VTEC was another SOHC VTEC VTi :) what's your best 1/4 mile pass ? mine was 15.61".

Personally for race/track use, the Si is better off NOT having the moon roof as it adds weight (up high) and also reduces chassis rigidity marginally.

The VTi also has front and rear stabiliser bars which the Si doesnt.

if you want to swap to B16/B18 etc, VTi is sligthly better for wiring.. but yeah on paper, they are both "96KW" with the Si being rated by Honda at 124HP and the VTi being rated at 125HP.

VTi also has slightly shorter ratios than Si..

mugeneration >> Are you going from 96 GLi to a 95 VTi ? that means going from EK to EG (gen6 to gen5) civic.. the EK VTi wasnt available till 96/97 I think.

[Civic Type R]

Mugeneration, what is it about the EK Gli that you dont like compared to the EG Vti ?

[Weq]

eg vti has better interior, seats, materials, sunroof, engine, brakes, swaybars just to highlight a few area's.

[Civic Type R]

eg vti has better interior, seats, materials, sunroof, engine, brakes, swaybars just to highlight a few area's.mmm ok - all of those are standard in the EK - VTiR, but im guessing finding one within that price range isnt goin to happen :o

[VTEChnique]

yeah only the EG5 VTi and EK4 VTiR have sunroof, all elecs, 4 wheel discs, stabilizer bars etc. EK4 has OEM strut-brace (EG5 doesnt).

[Civic Type R]

and the EK4 has completely different interior to all of them too :D

[mytoycivic]

mugeneration...do you want an ek or eg? i guess thats one important question...i know you say '95 but do you still want the same body shape in the VTi?

[VTEChnique]

yeah that what it comes down to.. you want EG (92-95) shape or EK 96-01 shape ??

Basically, in terms of performance/trim levels order it goes (best to worst):

EG - VTi, Si, GLi, GL, Breeze.
EK - VTiR, VTi, GLi, CXi.

[mugeneration]

the EG shape looks nicer i think, because they dont have the hideously large tail lights (featured on my car at the moment), but then it would also be nice to transfer my altezas on to the next car. The Vti i was looking at was the EG shape.

[Lukezen27]

The EG shape rocks man


I had enough to get a newer Civic but love the older shape


Why get a shape you don’t like just coze it’s a bit newer

LukeZen

[Limbo]

I'll have to say that i have seen an Si hatch beat a few vti sedans. I think the main reason is that the SI hatch is prob lighter as it doesn't have all those extras. Where i was at the time, the SI ran a few others, beat my previous rolla 100kw ver. . That night the only person he got put down by was the Integra Vti-r and only lost by a few car lengths. I'll have to say that it was very impressive, but he did have a carbon fibre bonnet and exhaust, he said verything else was stock, but i'm not sure that engine sound different.......

Also the SI was a DHOC sytem i believe, might have more potential, and it would be cheaper when you wanted a VTI-R once you feel lacking in power....

[mytoycivic]

yes!!!

lol ZC OWNS

[egSi]

hmm very interesting Trav.. the only non DOHC VTEC civic that ever beat me when I had the SOHC VTEC was another SOHC VTEC VTi :) what's your best 1/4 mile pass ? mine was 15.61".

Personally for race/track use, the Si is better off NOT having the moon roof as it adds weight (up high) and also reduces chassis rigidity marginally.

The VTi also has front and rear stabiliser bars which the Si doesnt.

if you want to swap to B16/B18 etc, VTi is sligthly better for wiring.. but yeah on paper, they are both "96KW" with the Si being rated by Honda at 124HP and the VTi being rated at 125HP.

VTi also has slightly shorter ratios than Si..

mugeneration >> Are you going from 96 GLi to a 95 VTi ? that means going from EK to EG (gen6 to gen5) civic.. the EK VTi wasnt available till 96/97 I think.
best et? nah man im just some street racing punk:rolleyes: i always wanted a vti and my si turned up, sold lol.

vti and si owns!! :D they both are the shit! :thumbsup:



and dude if ur picking a car get an eg, best shape aerodynamically and shit eks arent that bad but they do habe a 'grow on you' shape, i dont mind em but as long as shes got cf hood and liteweight 15s ur set!! :D

[jords]

IMO the EG is the best shape civic Honda has ever produced. In my EG5 i have raced a few EK4's and Its pretty much a close race, i dont think theres all that much between them. (I know on paper there is a difference, but that means shit when your on the street) :D

Does anyone know the weight of an EK4?, check your rego papers. On my rego papers it has the EG5 at 1025 kgs. We should update the civic model info as the weights arn't listed. :thumbsup: