turbo budget

[jayeg]

im wanting an 11 to 12sec packing that that is realiable as u can aspect from a turbo engine any ideas on engines setups and shops would be great thanks im looking to spend between 6 to 10gs the car is an eg was lookin into k but to much at the moment

[Riced_Civic]

lol if u have to the 10g save up a bit more and ull have the K i think its like 13k for a k swap these days

but yeah if u want to boost go peak boost lovely kit i more than doubled my power.

[IEVAQ8]

with stock b18c7 and full-race manifold with a gt30 and external gate, i made 240kw and ran 12.88 on semi slicks........ im sure with slicks and in an eg it will be a much quicker car...

but 10k might be a tight budget, my turbo setup alone was at least 10k, that includes ecu, injectors, cooler, clutch, pump...bla bla bla, and if u havnt got a b in it already, then ur on a backfoot to start with...

thats my opinion...

[OMG.JAI xD]

Building a 11 second or 12 second front wheel drive is not impossible but very hard with a 10g budget.
Only because with a front wheel drive, the more power you have the slower you might go across the line.

For instance. IEVAQ8 has a 240kw R with semis n ran a 12.8
Guys in the US have stock k20a motors with bolt ons and theyre doing the same time. Though they do use full slicks n stripped interior.

Not saying the turbo R is slower. Its just a mission to grab traction. With even more power it'll be even harder.
If you notice, the MPH a front wheel drive crosses the line at, is far greater than a rear wheel car. Say a 10 second FF vs a 10 second FR.

If youre only after a time. As in a 11 or 12 second car. Look at a mild turbo B setup. Stock high compression motor. with a decent turbo manifold n decent exhaust setup.
Or even go H2B. Youll have the little bit of extra torque.

But one key thing. Get an ECU with traction control. It is alot more expensive. But get it properly tuned. Practice running the drags, set the traction control properly and guranteed youll have a consistent straight line rocket.
Look up Tony Palo on youtube. 8 second FF honda. And there are heaps that have followed behind him touching the 8's tring to break the 7's.

Though what i said is for outright straight line racing only. Besides that. Pretty hard to get a 11-12 second FF honda with 10G budget if you dont already have an engine in that shell to start off with.

But if you ever do build an 11 second FF honda. On the streets with a rolling start, youll keep up with 10 second cars easy.

[EK1.6LCIV]

Im going to approach this question with as much logic as I can to sae you time and money, buy a car that's already turboed to begin with

something that came off the showroom floor with all of the bits factory in turbo form preferrably (insurance is easier, selling it when and if you get bored/need the money is easier)

you'll spend 10gs at a minium in some cases chasings those numbers when you can just buy an ev0, wrx, gtr (if you sold your car as well), xr6t, f6, etc etc

[hussLEr]

What motor are you currently running in your EG at present? If it's B18C already, then yes, I couldn't see why you wouldn't be able to run into the 12's with boost for less than $10k.

I've seen a few forum members selling their proven turbo kits; new and used, so it is there for the picking. Factor in labour at a reputable workshop and it should still be under $10k.

Though EK1.6LCIV does have a point regarding purchasing a vehicle that came from factory with turbo. For example, the Nissans, take your pick from 180sx, 200sx, 300zx, Skyline, Silvia etc all fall <$15k and are obtainable with the same budget that you have. All the turbo installation hassles are taken care of; just service, maintain and drive it.

I can see your desire to own a smaller capacity motor AND fwd that brings it to the bigger boys.

[Lukezen27]

I'm running 13.2 on normal street tyres with a stock B16A at 9pis making 161kw at the wheels

My total was about 6.5K including the JDM B16A motor but I did most of my own labour, well on the turbo side anyway.. Ben installed the motor!

So you should be able to make iit into the 12's for 10k with slicks on but 11's I doubt doubt it

[SLOWEGG]

If you can source the parts cheap and can do the labour yourself you can run a high 12 with a b16a turbo pretty easy with 10k. I only had a b16a with a t28 made 145kw, ran 13.0 on normal road tyres. Everything costed me 6k inc motor but i picked up the motor dirt cheap.

[BRU51N]

ive got a turbo kit forsale that will net you 170kw atw if you've got a b16a platform to begin with.

should be able to run in the 12's with good tyres/driver

[Limbo]

12s is fine, 11s you need to put quite abit of money

[its_ish]

I have a b16a built forged engine full kit (engine, lsd gearbox, clutch, Garrett Disco potato turbo n kit, ecu and injectors) that has 170KWATW for $7000.00 installed in your eg. Only done 4000k's. Im parting out my car. PM me if you are interested

[Lukezen27]

I have a b16a built forged engine full kit (engine, lsd gearbox, clutch, Garrett Disco potato turbo n kit, ecu and injectors) that has 170KWATW for $7000.00 installed in your eg. Only done 4000k's. Im parting out my car. PM me if you are interested

Why only 170kw with forged parts?

hmmm

Limobo makes 170kw stock motor

I make 160 stock motor

[its_ish]

Forged parts means it will be stronger and capable of handling more boost and power. It doesnt add kilowatts to your engine.
If you want more power, you need more boost...More boost means bigger turbo....bigger turbo means bigger injectors.
Also, what is the point of having all that power when you cant put it to the ground? I have it on an ED Civic which is a tad over 850 kilograms
and even with my traction bar and all aftermarket suspension parts it still break traction first and second gear.

Wind up your boost and lets see how your "stock" motor goes.

[Lukezen27]

Forged parts means it will be stronger and capable of handling more boost and power. It doesnt add kilowatts to your engine.
If you want more power, you need more boost...More boost means bigger turbo....bigger turbo means bigger injectors.
Also, what is the point of having all that power when you cant put it to the ground? I have it on an ED Civic which is a tad over 850 kilograms
and even with my traction bar and all aftermarket suspension parts it still break traction first and second gear.

Wind up your boost and lets see how your "stock" motor goes.

Yeah I know all that, I do my own worrk..

But why have'nt ya up the boost?

[quangsuke]

Forged parts means it will be stronger and capable of handling more boost and power. It doesnt add kilowatts to your engine.
If you want more power, you need more boost...More boost means bigger turbo....bigger turbo means bigger injectors.
Also, what is the point of having all that power when you cant put it to the ground? I have it on an ED Civic which is a tad over 850 kilograms
and even with my traction bar and all aftermarket suspension parts it still break traction first and second gear.

Wind up your boost and lets see how your "stock" motor goes.

i dont think Lukezen27 meant anything in the prior post, probably just because you went to the effort of getting your engine forged for only pulling 170kw atw. big number i might say but you coud've done that on a stock engine. just saying thats all.
=D would love a boosted car, but carby for now =D

[Limbo]

yeah with a built motor i would have gone up to 16PSI at least making over 200kw atw, that would be fun

[its_ish]

Ive lost interest mate, ive moved on to K series engines.
I prefer NA over turbo so parting out my B16a turbo and reinvesting on a better engine platform.

[its_ish]

yeah with a built motor i would have gone up to 16PSI at least making over 200kw atw, that would be fun

Why stop there? aim for 300 or even 400?
I wanted my car to be still daily driven and have the potential to handle more should i get bored of it...
Unfortunately I fell in love with K series engines so bye bye to B and bigger power figures.

[Blue]

Why stop there? aim for 300 or even 400?
I wanted my car to be still daily driven and have the potential to handle more should i get bored of it...
Unfortunately I fell in love with K series engines so bye bye to B and bigger power figures.

and thats what happens when you start chasing power LOL.

Seriously though for the OP, just sell your current platform and build off someone elses project or commit to working on the car yourself, only way you can touch that time brqacket with 10K.

[lookingforboost]

i started buying all the parts to build a 350KW FF ... but then the car got broken into and i lost interest so now i slide instead :)

[stndrd]

a forged bottom end does not always give you more power, but it gives you the peace of mind that it can withstand big boost (provided compression ratio isnt to high) you also need to remember that each motor is different (due to service history, the way its been driven etc etc) and in turn power figures are only round-about and that each tune varies (depending on if the owner of the car is chasing more torque or more power, or simply because of who tunes it). have a think about what boost each of the different set-ups are running, what size injectors and fuel pump they have and if they are using sliding cam gears and aftermarket cams. you cant just go around saying with this list of parts you will make xxxkw atw, take it as a guide but not the holy grail

[nem515]

buddy u ever thought about buying a complete turbo kit like avo from turbo world? they sell for around 4500 includes everything u need to acheive the double the normal output of ur standard power of a B16 atleast. All u need is a full exhaust and change to a heavy duty clutch. Best to go forged pistons and stronger rods so u can run to atleast 15 psi safely. Comes with warranty as long as its done by a reputable authorised mechanic.

[Lukezen27]

For salle
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?136095-EG5-JDM-B16A-SIR-2-Turbo-Emissions-Passed-–-Engineered-Fully-Street-Legal

All the work done :)

[Benson]

Stock k-series motor + boost = easily 11's, 10's on slicks

[Lukezen27]

Stock k-series motor + boost = easily 11's, 10's on slicks

Just broght an EP3 and plan to boost the K :)

1/4 times with the heavyer car?