Need help deciding between ef3 and ed6!

[ELZY]

Hey guys,
im fairly new on here and i am very interested in 4th gen civics,
i have to make a choice between my two civics as to which one i will fix up and get on the road
as my first car,
i really appreciate any input or suggestions you have and let me know what you think i should do.
im here to learn as much as i can! :D

ok heres the story:

1990 EF3
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4195/dscf5439.jpg (http://img294.imageshack.us/i/dscf5439.jpg/)
DOHC ZC, Lowered on king springs, EF9 midwing
bought it for $2300 earlier this year, it ran good with great geabox, it had a simota pod filter which sounded so sweet, (sold it to my bros mate)
shocks are pretty much gone tho, its done 183xxx k's

i drove it around like a manic for a couple of days and this is what happend lol
i think its from a thrown rod but im not 100% what do you think?
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4750/dscf5465.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/dscf5465.jpg/)

i damaged the front bar(currently undergoing repair) drivers side fender and corner light when i crashed into my mates fence lol
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9071/dscf5473.jpg (http://img375.imageshack.us/i/dscf5473.jpg/)

i repaired a crack in the rear bar with fiberglass (previous owner got rammed) those tail lights are off an 88' ED6
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4474/dscf5440w.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/i/dscf5440w.jpg/)

some parts of the body need a respray like roof, passenger rear quater from fuel stains.
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8365/dscf5462n.jpg (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/dscf5462n.jpg/)

i took a few interior parts out and swapped them into my ED6 to make it look clean,
(seats, centre console, door panels, boot carpet ect. it does look nice)
no pic sorry:(

i also took the rear spoiler for for a carbon fiber look lol and the tail lights for my ED6.

other than the engine and the front damage and a bit of paint work to do its a pretty solid car that goes well A/C is great!

Now the ED6
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6430/blokc.jpg (http://img69.imageshack.us/i/blokc.jpg/)

the D15B4 is pretty good but drivers CV joint is screwed (clikkity clak clak) and gearbox is getting worn, 3rd syncro is pretty bad,
and the brakes are shit lol,
other than that it goes well it has a 2 1/4 inch exhaust.
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/9360/photo445a.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/photo445a.jpg/)

although it has some dents in the body like drivers door, passenger fender, bonnet.
and has a crappy tint job,
its done 240xxx k's


What do you think i should do?
Put another DOHC ZC in the EF3 and fix the body up?
or
(my original plan)
swap the EF3 brakes, (rear disks woo) gearbox and CV's into the ED
spray the bumpers and bonnet and do a front end conversion on my ED6 and make it look like the EF3?

the biggest issue i have with it is finding a DOHC ZC,
is it possible to buy just the bottom end because i think my head is in good condition (need to check)
if its possible to buy it without the head how much whould it cost?
how much does a DOHC ZC cost?
and where can i buy a DOHC ZC in Melbourne?

if i can find a ZC to put in the EF3 il choose that,
but for now im leaning towards the ED because it runs and i have a most of the parts to get it on the road.

please tell me what you think i should do.
any help is much appreciated!

thanks.

[markismaximus]

I'd swap the brake components etc onto the ED, and then stop crashing into fences.....

I would also look at using the EFI components from the EF to convert the ED from carby if you have the cash, could chuck a 1st gen B16A into it

also a useful read --->

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?p=507264#post507264

theres is a link on here somewhere to wreckers that would sell motors who you can call for engine prices and availability. cant remember where though

[~Sp33~]

Hey guys,
im fairly new on here and i am very interested in 4th gen civics,
i have to make a choice between my two civics as to which one i will fix up and get on the road
as my first car,
i really appreciate any input or suggestions you have and let me know what you think i should do.
im here to learn as much as i can! :D

ok heres the story:

1990 EF3
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4195/dscf5439.jpg (http://img294.imageshack.us/i/dscf5439.jpg/)
DOHC ZC, Lowered on king springs, EF9 midwing
bought it for $2300 earlier this year, it ran good with great geabox, it had a simota pod filter which sounded so sweet, (sold it to my bros mate)
shocks are pretty much gone tho, its done 183xxx k's

i drove it around like a manic for a couple of days and this is what happend lol
i think its from a thrown rod but im not 100% what do you think?
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4750/dscf5465.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/dscf5465.jpg/)

i damaged the front bar(currently undergoing repair) drivers side fender and corner light when i crashed into my mates fence lol
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9071/dscf5473.jpg (http://img375.imageshack.us/i/dscf5473.jpg/)

i repaired a crack in the rear bar with fiberglass (previous owner got rammed) those tail lights are off an 88' ED6
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4474/dscf5440w.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/i/dscf5440w.jpg/)

some parts of the body need a respray like roof, passenger rear quater from fuel stains.
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8365/dscf5462n.jpg (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/dscf5462n.jpg/)

i took a few interior parts out and swapped them into my ED6 to make it look clean,
(seats, centre console, door panels, boot carpet ect. it does look nice)
no pic sorry:(

i also took the rear spoiler for for a carbon fiber look lol and the tail lights for my ED6.

other than the engine and the front damage and a bit of paint work to do its a pretty solid car that goes well A/C is great!

Now the ED6
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6430/blokc.jpg (http://img69.imageshack.us/i/blokc.jpg/)

the D15B4 is pretty good but drivers CV joint is screwed (clikkity clak clak) and gearbox is getting worn, 3rd syncro is pretty bad,
and the brakes are shit lol,
other than that it goes well it has a 2 1/4 inch exhaust.
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/9360/photo445a.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/photo445a.jpg/)

although it has some dents in the body like drivers door, passenger fender, bonnet.
and has a crappy tint job,
its done 240xxx k's


What do you think i should do?
Put another DOHC ZC in the EF3 and fix the body up?
or
(my original plan)
swap the EF3 brakes, (rear disks woo) gearbox and CV's into the ED
spray the bumpers and bonnet and do a front end conversion on my ED6 and make it look like the EF3?

the biggest issue i have with it is finding a DOHC ZC,
is it possible to buy just the bottom end because i think my head is in good condition (need to check)
if its possible to buy it without the head how much whould it cost?
how much does a DOHC ZC cost?
and where can i buy a DOHC ZC in Melbourne?

if i can find a ZC to put in the EF3 il choose that,
but for now im leaning towards the ED because it runs and i have a most of the parts to get it on the road.

please tell me what you think i should do.
any help is much appreciated!

thanks.

When i first started reading your thread, i was like ---> :D

"Wow", i said to myself - "another 4th gen enthusiast".

Then i read on and realized that in the short time you owned the rare(ish) EF you managed to blow it up and smash it. Now my face looks more like --->:eek: and :(

Put a d16a8 in there, they're cheap and easy to come by and nearly 100% interchangeable with the DOHC ZC. Hopefully you can treat it better if and when it runs again.

[ELZY]

i apologize to all civic enthusiasts especially 4th gen,
i didnt treat this car the way i should have,
when i got it i just thrashed it, i didnt check the oil level or the coolant or anything i was just really excited that i had a jdm EF that had some power and sounded awesome,
i was in such a rush to drive it that i couldnt find the front end bolts and just used cables ties, it held alright until i was driving around my mates driveway when my mate ran out in front of me and i swerved and hit his gate, the front bar just fell off and has got some gravel rash and is cracked but im fixing it and respraying it,

ive chosen to get the EF3 up and running because its a really cool car rare(ish) and you hardly see an actual EF on the road,

i should be able to learn alot more doing my own engine swap im just a kid and i will treat the car like my baby,
i want to get a ZC or D16A8 and get it hektikly machined and bored out ect. i dont really care how much it costs me i really like the ZC

how much would a decent d16a8 or zc cost?
is there much of a price difference?


my dream would be to get one of this but im dreaming my ass off lol,
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/8853/zc01.jpg (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/zc01.jpg/)

[~Sp33~]

The 3rd gen civic's run a D16a1 or 'brown top' ZC, it's different to your engine.

[pat88c]

there realy not much point rebuilding the D16a8/zc with larger over size bores max you should go would be 20-30 thou out before having issues

best rebuild D16a8 with High comp pistons, stronger rods(after market new rods or heat treatment on the on in the new bock), blue printed engine, hondata OBd0- Obd1 and few other things

Do search on D16a8 you find a few good tips and ideas of what people have done in the past

Join up to Crx Australia a few good tips on there on rebuild on D16a8

[Snoop_gee]

i see u bought my friends Shivic. (Danny) thats the black 1 with the faded roof.