Honda n360/n600/scamp

[hardyards]

Good evening all

I Thought I would join this forum to see if I could suss the minds of some Honda enthusiests regarding the N series Hondas from the late 60s early 70s.

As my first car I was given a 1972 Honda N600, loved driving it around and it was in great condition for its age.

Now (seven years later) I am wanting to restore/rebuild it to show room condition, problem being its bloody hard to find anyone in Australia that has worked on them.

So is there anyone out there that can give me information on rebuilding/restoring the classic honda? anyone else done one? anyone know where I can get parts or if any parts are interchangable?

thanks in advance for any help ladies and gents

:thumbsup:

[hardyards]

bump

is there a section that this is more appropriate for?

[Zilli]

Hey mate,

I can move this to "Other" Honda vehicles but i am unsure if you are going to get any response their either... but lets give it a go.

Unfortunately the membership on the forum will be too young to help you with your question, let alone know the car you are talking about!

I fo one love them and would love to see some snaps of it... and follow the build process too...

[hardyards]

I fo one love them and would love to see some snaps of it... and follow the build process too...

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad12/hardyardsnow/post-15774-11665090081331973084.jpg


Heres a picture of the old girl.

Hopefully someone can help out with some knowledge. Other wise it might be a long journey alone, cheers Zilli

[Zilli]

looks to be in good solid condition eh? Where were these vehicles preodminantly sold? were they released on Australia?

[hardyards]

First sold in Australia in 68, mine being a 72 model. From what i gather they were released in the US, SA, UK, JP and AU.

Not sure if there was many sold here but i see them on ebay from time to time.

I got this when I was 16 from a family friend, all I had to do to get it road ready was weld up a reverse gear and get the clutch machined. Drove it for a year until I moved for Uni and havent driven her since sadly. Its in brilliant condition considering its age, but at the moment its sitting in my brothers shed waiting for some loving. From what I can tell it was originally a Scamp (or an n360, which had the 360cc engine in it) but has had the 600cc engine put in it.

[Zilli]

wow... :-) what a great history... definitely worth bringing back to her former glory

there must be some forums somewhere that can help you out mate

[tseesinngwailo]

Where are you located?
I have a long term goal to get a Honda S600 or S800 (much harder to find cheap) and restore it, and the next TN360 or TN7 (i think they were called) ute I see on ebay, I want to buy with the aim of having it as a daily driver, I only live 10 mins from work so would be fun as a daily haha. and I could use it to pick up all the parts needed for restoration! sadly, most old Hondas like these only ever seem to be for sale in North Queensland or the like, and although cheap, would be too costly to go up and get it.
I cant get anything until next year when i move house (requirement is that it has double garage and a carport...) but once I am in, will look for the S600
Hope you dont lose faith in getting your project done, would be nice to see some of these cars getting around still.
Cheers, Chris

[hardyards]

Cheers Chris, good luck finding an S car, i would love to own one and restore it!

I live on the gold coast but my car is garaged in the bush in western NSW at the moment, such a shame as I cant even continue pulling it apart.

There is a forum called Japanese Nostalic Car that I am on but once again it is hard finding many Australians on the site let alone parts in Aust, good advice on there though.

[Meldge]

Guys you can check out 'www.1stgencivic.org' as there are quite a few early honda guys there. I n the forums there is a Vintage Subforum with the N's Z's and so on.

Meldge

[gstanmore1]

tryed honda clubs?we used to get a lot of s600 parts from guys in nth sydney..

[Bruce]

Hardyards

I owned one of these from new, between (approx) 1967 and 1970. (Anyway, from whenever they were released.)
I lived in Sydney and bought the car from a Honda motorbike dealer in Parramatta.

The car was primarily used to drive from Eastwood to Chippendale, where I worked but about every four to six weeks I'd do a round trip up the Pacific Highway to Port Macquarie, where my parents lived.
That car could sit on 60 mph all day without a problem and stirring the gearbox up hills (Buladelah) just made for more enjoyment.

I had the wheels widened and chromed and fitted with Dunlop SP Sports Aquajets. The fake wood-rim steering wheel was replaced with a smaller leather-bound item.
Nothing was done to the engine.

There was a 6-month warranty on it and the services were done by the dealer at Parramatta.

A couple of years after I bought it it dropped the camshaft chain as I was passing over Ross Glen bridge at 1:00 AM. A "clunk" followed by silence as I coasted to a halt.
The NRMA guy from Kew turned up, took one look at the car and said "What the $#@! is that?!!" - which was all I needed to say "Just tow me to Kew please, I'll arrange to have the car taken to Taree".
Which I did, and it was repaired by the local Honda motorcycle guy there.

Not long after that episode I decided to replace the ball bearings in the CV joints and did it myself. I am not a mechanic, by any means, but I still found it a relatively easy job.

The moral of this long-winded story, if there is one, is that anyone with a bit of mechanical nouse can work on these gems. Tracking down parts will be the hardest part, I would venture to guess.

I would love to own another one, just for nostalgia's sake, and only came across this forum because I was doing a search for any that might be for sale.

All the best with it.

Bruce
Canberra

[was8001967]

http://www.honda600shop.com/
http://www.600miles.com/
and join
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/2cylinderhondas/
Cheers
Aron

[A-man]

I have a 2 n360s I'll post progress of one when I get home the 2nd was part of the deal of buying it I only want 1 I'm also in the process of organising a s600 to b built up to I'm excited about that

[SlobberGoat]

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/ozrom_photo/544813_3221335612054_1226352957_32352058_328515721 _n.jpg

[tseesinngwailo]

OMG, I so want a TN 360

[was8001967]

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/ozrom_photo/544813_3221335612054_1226352957_32352058_328515721 _n.jpg

Are you in Perth?? there is a few of us s series, n series owners here in Perth

[A-man]

Yeh I'm in perth that was my car i sold it to someone else but its just stored atm. I have two n360s one prepped for paint. where in perth r u from?

[was8001967]

Wow, good to see more here.. how far along are you with the N's? i am in the city,
PM me and i will send you my details, S600 attached :)


http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSleexG0g8oki6x9TJLhA2WZ_74NdD7p 17zMEbTHF05eH3hgENujhkY6wa2

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTF3hhTvpYQOPVPsxWArS4_Au9VJD5Xi wvbHl-gHvZunq6Y5ano

[curtis265]

oh man....

that's a pretty s600..

on my list of cars to own one day

[A-man]

This how I got the scamps....


http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n572/mudmarron/IMG00062-20120509-1732.jpg

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n572/mudmarron/IMG00060-20120509-1730.jpg

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n572/mudmarron/IMAG0238.jpg

Its now stripped and in primer ready for paint

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n572/mudmarron/IMAG0401.jpg

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n572/mudmarron/IMAG0400.jpg

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n572/mudmarron/IMAG0399.jpg

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n572/mudmarron/IMAG0398.jpg

Its going to be the orginal red colour. It should be painted by the end of the week. next job is to redo the bushes etc. The engine that is going to be fitted I had running its a 2 clyinder 360cc air cooled engine.

[A-man]

just been painted guys. nothing better then fresh paint

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n572/mudmarron/IMAG0564.jpg
http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n572/mudmarron/IMAG0562.jpg
http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n572/mudmarron/IMAG0565.jpg
http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n572/mudmarron/IMAG0566.jpg

[androo]

That's some great work. So good to see one of these get restored!

[mooshie]

So awesome! Keep with the updates.

[curtis265]

that's gonna be a cute kent of a car

[SlobberGoat]

Especially when A-man drops in that K...

[tseesinngwailo]

Great to see someone doing something outside of the box, cant wait to see more!

[A-man]

no k series guys sorry to disapoint you all. I have heard of bike engines being shoe horned into them.. i'll be keeping it orginal as its old and its nice to see how things used to work.

[A-man]

Bit of an update,


http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/ozrom_photo/IMAG2000.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/ozrom_photo/IMAG1999.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/ozrom_photo/IMAG1998.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/ozrom_photo/IMAG1995.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/ozrom_photo/IMAG1996.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/ozrom_photo/IMAG1994.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/ozrom_photo/IMAG1997.jpg

[tseesinngwailo]

Wow thats awesome, cant wait to see it driving!

[ANTHRAXXX]

Hey I have a TN7 Ute here in Perth I'm currently restoring. Here's it as it was when bought from Gumtree

http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u589/DOXOLOGY55/75813fe_20_zpseb9c7248.jpg

[ANTHRAXXX]

Aaaaaand as it is currently

http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u589/DOXOLOGY55/uteee_zpsabe3212e.jpg

Undergoing stripping/rust removal...

[tseesinngwailo]

Double Awesome!!!!!!! I really want one lol! moar pics!!!!!

[A-man]

That's awesome to see someone doing one of these up I know of a few complete ones in WA, I believe I have scored one of these, for the next project but I will see at the end of the week how that works out.

[ANTHRAXXX]

*powerful* Engine...

http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u589/DOXOLOGY55/motor2_zps96bccf6e.jpg

[ANTHRAXXX]

This is my first major project, so If it turns out I suck at welding/rust repair may not ever amount to anything :p Anyways they are a very cool little vehicle...couldn't pass it up ;)

[tseesinngwailo]

More pics! need inspiration lol! hoping once our house is built i have somewhere for a project, dream is an S600/800 but cost might push me to a TN360 :)

[A-man]

I got another n360 in my shed,

its good fun I have more pics will upload tmrw

[TheSaint]

i almost bought that yellow one just for parts hehe
doing a 1973 TN-V myself - lots of work in it =)

A-man - great progress on the scamps man they look great!! - dont let me forget to come pick up that engine =)

[ANTHRAXXX]

Mybe one day will look like dis..

http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii514/ANTHRAXXX55/d62e6226dd2f11e1a58122000a1c91a3_7.jpg

[coupe72001]

I bid on the two TN7 trucks on ebay in Vic late last year. One was the bread van, and the other an open tray truck. Got outbid in the final seconds and was shattered. Really hoping to find a Honda Tn in 2013.
Very happy to see the yellow one getting restored Anthraxxx!

[coupe72001]

Got one! A nice, thoroughly dented, TNV van appeared on eBay in Vic last week. Murphy's Law, an nice 72 Scamp appeared on eBay in Melbourne at the same time, but I settled on the van - to rare a chance to pass up.
Now, anyone got any leads for parts? I need plenty!

[coupe72001]

Here she is!
Stalled project after 20 years of dry storage. Ill address the mechanical issues first, then start on the body.

[ANTHRAXXX]

Been awhile, haven't done much but recently got my Ute from the side of the house into the shed. Only took 3 of us to do it ;)

http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u589/DOXOLOGY55/oottttii2_zps53eac35b.jpg (http://s1323.photobucket.com/user/DOXOLOGY55/media/oottttii2_zps53eac35b.jpg.html)

[tseesinngwailo]

Hope it move forward! Great to see someone doing these up, keep us updated. In a few days I will have a driveway that can be used, but still a long way from getting a project, house cost way too much.

[ANTHRAXXX]

Honda City's are a great little project car ( my other ride ) Small, fun to drive, cheap to run & always one somewhere for sale for under 1k, or track down a Turbo 2. Great fun ;)

[ANTHRAXXX]

Just found this :

http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12943&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[ANTHRAXXX]

This UK guy's Ute has rust in exactly the same places as mine :p But his looks worse.

[A-man]

Had a run up of my n360. coming together slowly now.

I will post a video later on today.

[GormzZ]

hey if anyone knows of any honda n360, n600's up for sale in qld.. no matter condition could you let me please know?! so keen on one now after owning a few honda's and seeing a hayabusa swapped one on youtube.

[vanderbi|t]

wow! i almost pulled the trigger on those TN7s myself when i saw them pop up on perth gumtree.

i just didnt have the space to store them unfortunately =(

look forward to your prgress mate!

[chez00]

You guys still going with these restorations? I have a TN360 III (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?183750-Just-bought-a-Honda...)

I stripped the motor, all good, just needs a hone and valve grind.
BUT... crown wheel is missing 3 teeth.
Hoping someone has an extra gearbox/diff lying around and can help me out...?

I don't know if they are the same donk as the n360 but suspect they are. Any help would be awesome.

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Hehehe I am.

[chez00]

Do tell.

[Freddy]

Hi chez. I haven't checked this site for quite a while. I've been playing around with N360's for yonks. Can't help you with the gear tho. How did you go with other parts?

I'm looking for a crankshaft. The suction screen on the oil pump is VERY fine mesh, so fine that mine blocked up with crap from the cam chain guides, idler etc and with no oil pressure warning it eventually developed a knock in a big end bearing.

So if anyone has a used N360 or TN360 crankshaft I'd be interested. They can be swapped between models with a minor mod.

[Freddy]

By the way, the engines are not the same but a lot of the internal are.

[chez00]

Hey Freddy,
Yeah I've got myself a replacement gear set including crown wheel. I also got a crank and rod assembly as mine was shot, and a fuel tank.
Just gotta finish off my other project before I open this can of worms!
Cheers.

[Freddy]

Ha well that's sweet mate. Where'd you find the crank? Know of another anywhere?

[chez00]

Hmmm I may have a contact, I thought I was lucky getting a crank though! I'll let you know...
Yes the oil pressure issue is a bit of a worry - I'll look into running an idiot light I think.

For interest's sake, this n360 looks extremely tidy. Bit pricy but would be an excellent base for a minter.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/RARE-retro-honda-scamp-n360-in-great-original-condition-suit-fiat-/261733327661?lgeo=1&vectorid=229515&rmvSB=true&clk_rvr_id=767630169154&affiliate.networkId=9&affiliate.trackingId=5336652905

[Freddy]

Yeah I've seen that. I already have a good one, just looking for a crank for the spare donk.

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab313/Freddy1333/N360_zps610044cf.jpg (http://s875.photobucket.com/user/Freddy1333/media/N360_zps610044cf.jpg.html)

[bms1986]

Greetings all, selling a n360, with parts and workshop manual. There is one full car and probably close to another in bits and pieces. It was my grandfathers daily drive since new, broke down maybe 10-15 years ago and he never got it back on the road... from memory it wasn't anything major he just never got the parts...make an offer, need it gone asap. Located in mcleod vic... can provide more details and pics get in touch if interested... would be a ripper project car...need it gone, best offer,...

Cheers

[bms1986]

I can't post in the trading area on this forum so its going to be scrapped.

[bms1986]

http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/Honda-N360-Scamp-1972-/222403941464?hash=item33c84ed458%3Ag%3A%7E3wAAOSw3 2lYnEFM&_trkparms=pageci%253A86dc0365-f3d8-11e6-a56e-74dbd180a4e3%257Cparentrq%253A4428a2c515a0a60cd80c 689afff80f93%257Ciid%253A3