Body Kit Repair (RB1)

[Mobil1]

hi guys,

I need some of your expert advice.. I've been looking for the absolute front bumper for awhile already and i stumbled upon this on yahoo auction. Its got some defects which looked pretty minor to me but happened to be at critical joints so i'm quite worried about them.

http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n83973817

the defects identified are:
1) broken off top left bracket
2) split top left bracket
3) minor scratches on the edges
3) rash on the lower lip

do you guys reckon this can be easily & worth fixing? can anyone recommend a bodykit repair shop in melbourne?
sorry i'm not very good with all this modding business and sourcing stuff from overseas. i only know how to drive the car. planning to bring it in through importmonster. pretty much only need to pay for the shipping only.

thanks alot guys. please help...

[AusAccord]

not much problems from my point of view except the broken top and bottom brackets. am sure Atjo can recommend a body shop in Melb.

shipping will cost you an arm for this item..... can i ask reasons do you want an Absolute bumper? don't you know the AUDM foglight cannot be fitted to the JDM Absolute bumper housing unless you want to wire mesh them. IMO, i would rather get an aftermarket bodykit instead of OEM from Japan but its upto you. Happy modding!!

[Atjo]

You can go to DT Panels in Springvale if you want to fix the bumper. Just ask for Vu & tell him Daniel refers you to him.

[Mobil1]

@ AusAccord: hmmm.. didn't know about the fog light thing until you pointed it out. i don't even have fogs on mine right now. if i do go with this then i might need to suss out the fogs that fit into the abs bumper from asia.. but thanks for the tip anyway!

@ Atjo: hey thanks! I'll keep the name in mind and make sure to remember to name drop too..

[Mobil1]

bro Accord,

When you say the housing, do you mean just the garnish wouldn't fit or the entire lens bracket?

[evolution]

The AUDM fog light itself will fit, but there is a black plastic that frames the light housing to suite it to the bumper type. There are 3 shapes from factory in Japan


http://www.nst-auto.com/hnd/odyssey/images/images_L/image_L_08V31-SAA-000C.jpg

1st one is non-absolute facelift bumper with no lip kit
2nd one is non-absolute facelift bumper with Modulo lip kit
3rd one is Absolute bumper with Absolute lip kit

With the bumper in the Yahoo Japan Auction, there is no black plastic frame and no foglight. So you will have to get them from somewhere other than a dealer here if you want fog lights, else it will be hole or as Aus said, wire mesh.

[AusAccord]

^^ as explained by Evo with great details *thumb up*

[Mobil1]

bro Evo thanks alot.

Ok I found this dude on ebay selling some non-ori lamps (button switch) $120+ and it seems that if i get the pictured used absolute bezel it should fit onto the bracket although the 3rd screw housing seems to be broken or something. what da ya think?

whats everyone here running on? stick switch or button switch? has anyone here installed stick switch w/o going through dealer? $600-700+ just for foglight installation is quite cutthroat

also, out of curiosity is it legal to drive with your foglights on on normal conditions?

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[Atjo]

Technically it's not legal. You're supposed to use it on foggy condition.

[AusAccord]

Evolution, aka_NSX and myself running OEM stick switch and three of us DIY. its funny as i remember the bracket fixing onto bumper then cover on top, not bracket ont0 cover as shown on yr pics...... be-careful if it says using button switch then you may need run wires thru firewall as OEM one already pre-wired and its only a plug-n-play system onto fuse box. its not legal running foggies on normal conditions

[aka_NSX]

its plug and play but still bloody hard to get access around the Fuse Box,

and if you need the instruction manual AusAccord is the man to ask . . . without his instruction manual I wont be able to install mine

[evolution]

Mobil1, not sure if that ebay set will fit the absolute bumper even with the Absolute bezel. It looks like it's for the pre-facelift models.

The foggies took me 1 full day to install and without Aus_Accord's instruction manual I would never have figured it out.

[evolution]

its plug and play but still bloody hard to get access around the Fuse Box,

and if you need the instruction manual AusAccord is the man to ask . . . without his instruction manual I wont be able to install mine

Hey aka_NSX, would you know if a Clarion MAX686BT has some secret steps that can make the DVD player region free?

[AusAccord]

haha... yeah took me abt 1.5 days to install esp start in the afternoon. the fxxking fuse box is a classic as took me almost 2 hrs to put it back in.

Mobil1, one more thing is you may not get the fog light indicator on dash as not wiring thru stick switch (just a guess). happy modding!!

[Atjo]

Do you think i should put foggies as well like this? http://www.conceptmotorsport.com/autogallery/autogallery_display.asp?id=1180
I still want Weds Kranze Bazreia but too bad it's only comes in chrome for 20" http://www.conceptmotorsport.com/autogallery/autogallery_display.asp?id=484

[AusAccord]

put the foggies on as its sexy with full kit .... get Weds Kranze Bazreia 19"/22" then which diamond cut polish or even hype chrome :)

[Atjo]

Well if i put the foggies, it means that i need to drill holes on the front lip and it might be a problem if i'm selling the bodykit in the future. I don't mind if my bodykit is replica. 19" is too small, 22" is too big and 21" the tyres are too expensive unless you import it from US.

[Mobil1]

thanks for the input all. Anyone know where to get a set of the ori foglight kit(incld stick) and stuff? I've been looking at loose bits all over yahoo auction but can't find and i dont know what parts I need. bro Accord you have a diagram or something which shows what are the stuff required ie wire etc...

[AusAccord]

has to be the right time at the right moment on YAJ. but even tho, may not be a complete set with all wiring and relay esp the indicator stick (never seen that on YAJ b4). yes i have the installation manual for the foggies but in Japanese, pm me yr email address then i can email to you once located (as i'm have to find it on computer)

[AusAccord]

Mobil1, pm replied and email sent.... have fun mate and hope one day all modded RB1 can meet together :)

[aka_NSX]

Hey aka_NSX, would you know if a Clarion MAX686BT has some secret steps that can make the DVD player region free?

I will get back to you soon I need to ask my friend first ( he used to wrok for clarion australia )

[evolution]

thanks for the input all. Anyone know where to get a set of the ori foglight kit(incld stick) and stuff? I've been looking at loose bits all over yahoo auction but can't find and i dont know what parts I need. bro Accord you have a diagram or something which shows what are the stuff required ie wire etc...

Try this, has the part # for RB1 accessories
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.nst-auto.com/hnd/odyssey/index.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3D08V31-SAA-000E%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG&rurl=translate.google.com.au

I ordered from a stockist in Singapore brand new approx SGD $560 part #08V31-SAA-000E & 08V38-SFE-F00 for my Ody with Modulo lip kit

From what I can see 08V31-SAA- is the foglamp itself (000E is blue lens), so 08V38-SFE is the mounting brackets and indicator stalk. For the Absolute bumper or what they call Aero package it looks like you need G00 (ie 08V38-SFE-G00)

Oh just to add... I think that bumper on yahoo Japan is missing the plastic mesh that sits behind the air dam

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/reginlai/Odyssey%20Absolute/IMG_0567.jpg


I will get back to you soon I need to ask my friend first ( he used to wrok for clarion australia )

Thanks Laski!

[Mobil1]

bro Evo, thanks for the lowdown on the part numbers... I've sent out a couple of feelers and see what they will come back with re prices and stuff.

worst case I'll just grab off this burned out rb1 for about $300 ofcourse I wouldn't expect the stick to still be around.

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[AusAccord]

^^ u should get the engine from the front cut if its a Absolute model :)

[evolution]

^^ Looks like an Absolute, the headlights don't have the blue tint which is an option for Absolute models

[Mobil1]

ok all in with the lever switch $390. should i get it? brand new from singapore honda stockist is $470 (blue lens) but thats to get it into singapore. if only I got someone to bring it over from singapore...damn

[AusAccord]

you talking included relay, switch, wiring, lens and bezel AUD 390 landed? brand new or used?

[Mobil1]

includes connectors, "column lever switch" i suppose this is stick switch yeah?

used... hahaha from tht burned out car in the previous post...

oh yeah and its landed.... i'm gonna ask about the relay and stuff too now..

but so far what you reckon about the pricing?

[evolution]

if it is the burnt one, unless the person taking it out knows what they are doing, you could end up short on parts. If u can wait I can post a pic of the parts I got, wiring, relay, bezel, frame, etc.

Which Singapore stockist did u talk to? Thian Seng Motors in Waterloo St will post the parts. Just need to talk to Julie and say Damien in Perth recomended you.

[AusAccord]

quite frankly not sure..... bought my blue len set by a friend in Japan (lost contact already) 2.5 yrs ago of abt JPY 36,300 landed brand new from Honda Dealership Japan.... so yrs is expensive if you ask me but like Evo paid SGD 560 brand new then yrs is not that bad....

Evo, you should consolidate our shopping list then contact Thian Seng Motors for a container shipment haha

[Atjo]

Agree!!

[Mobil1]

yo you're right Julie from Thian Seng gave the quote last night:

08V31-SAA-000E SGD340.00 blue lens
08V31 SAA-000C SGD200.00 white lens
08V38-SFE-G00 SDG215.70 harness

bro Evo if you could send the photo of the parts that would be great.

See how much to post over I guess i might just order from singapore... I'll name drop you hahah and see

[AusAccord]

mod Ajto, ban him if he's not doing the shopping for us here......

Mobil1, all the parts listed on installation manual emailed to you

[evolution]

ehhhhh I offered the info a few years ago Aus_Accord, nobody was interested. Don't think we can even get enough parts to fill a pallet.

Geeezzz I didn't know our blue lens foggies cost so much more than normal ones!!!

[AusAccord]

haha true Evo, not enough to fill a pallet..... thats why JDM blue foggies are unique in AUS.... not anymore.....

[Atjo]

I'll ban Mobil1 & evolution if they don't get us stuff from Malaysia & Singapore :p

[AusAccord]

blah haha.... oh yeah.... apply pressure to get results *thumb up*

[Mobil1]

bro Evo, she still remembers you.

Anyway landed quote as follow

Blue lens ~AUD522
Clear lens ~AUD402

looks like if i'm getting it will be from singapore. Damn 2nd hand set from the burned out car is already ~AUD390 and thats if everything is still together and its clear lens..

[AusAccord]

welcome to OzHonda money burning section :) :)

frankly, if you are thinking using yellow bulb on foggies, get the clear lens otherwise yr personal preference.

[evolution]

Good to know my years of buying stuff off them has some use.

Looking at the price diff, get new and be assured that it comes with all the appropriate parts. Blue or clear lens is up to personal preferance.

Atjo, Aus_Accord should be the one getting banned, he's the one that always manages to get things cheaper.

[AusAccord]

not always but willing to wait for the right moment as i'm a............... cheapo haha

[evolution]

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/rb1odc/Odyssey/IMG_0086.jpg

Not too sure if I named the parts correctly, but you guys get the idea

[AusAccord]

hey Evo, where are the screws??? yap, thats what i had as well even the same JDM plastic bags!!

[Mobil1]

bro Evo, thanks alot for the trouble..

Julie just got back now saying this is what I need:

33901-SFE-023 SGD200: Right foglight
33951-SFE-023 SGD200: Left foglight

from the attached photo looks like it comes with the lamp house + bezel + bracket in one set..

They (and their supplier) don't know which attachment to go with it. Do you guys reckon I should get the same attachment as you guys? I think the attachment is more car related than foglight related you reckon??

btw SDG400 + SGD70 shipping for 2 foglamp housing is damn ex i reckon, better to just get it off that burned out car for AUD260 you reckon? theres no complication of missing wires or components..

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[evolution]

Mobil1 I am getting confused here.... So the fog lamps from the burnt car is 260 or 390?

Looks like the Absolute foglights are sold differently from the ours. Seems like u still need the indicator stalk+wiring+fuse relay.

If you want to go with the burnt one, just make sure they pull the whole set out.

[Mobil1]

sorry bro to confuse.

ok just need your help to clarify. Since the absolute foglamp housing + bezel + mounting is sold together. I assume from the point of the light bulb all the way to the control switch should be the same as you guys yeah?

ThianSeng doesn't know which attachment to go with the foglamps, and looking from the link you provided (ofcourse with the broken english translation), what I can make out of it is:

08V38-SFE-C00 No Vehicle control equipment for cars equipped with automatic light normal bumper mounted attachment [Vehicle fit: B, M]
08V38-SFE-D00 Auto light control equipment for cars equipped with Vehicle bumper mounted attachment Normal [Vehicle fit: L]
08V38-SFE-E00 Modulo Roasukato mounting attachment (front TypeZZ) No Car Auto Light Control Equipment Vehicle Equipment [Vehicle fit: B, M]
08V38-SFE-F00 Modulo Roasukato mounting attachment (front TypeZZ) Car equipment Car Auto Light Control Equipment [Vehicle fit: L]
08V38-SFE-G00 No attachment mounting M · for cars equipped with automatic light control for aero package [Vehicle fit: M-(Aero)]

C00 and E00 I reckon can be eliminated because its for cars with no Auto Light feature.

It "looks" like D00 and F00 are the same (both for Auto Light) except of the differnet type of mounting bracket it comes with.

G00 seems to be for cars with Auto Light but no mounting bracket. I think this is the part I should get as the absolute mounting bracket and bezel already comes as one with the foglamp housing (refer to photo below).

I don't think so at any point of time when they are referring to "Auto Light" they mean the AFS lamps that Absolute comes with yeah? Instead it means the light will turn on or off itself? LOL

Do you think G00 is the right thing for me now? gosh this is confusing and hard. LOL

PS: don't need to worry about the burnt car...

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[evolution]

Bro,

You may be right that the attachments are more car specific than fog light related. After breaking down the Jap words individually, I think all 5 don't fit your needs fully

the first 4 part # descriptions seem to be correct, but 08V38-SFE-G00 actually reads as

取付けアタッチメント(Mounting attachment)　M・エアロパッケージ用 (M · aero packages)
オートライトコントロール装備無し車用 (No Car Auto Light Control Equipment)
　[ 適合車種　：　M-(ｴｱﾛ) ] (Vehicle fit: M-(Aero))

The stupid google translation thing messed up the wording order. I am guessing because the Absolute models all come with the foggies as standard and this web site is an assories website, they would not list the parts required for the Absolute. Sorry for the earlier mis-information.

What varient are you driving? I assume a Luxury model with no front lip? Just a thought.... why don't you get

33901-SFE-023 + 33951-SFE-023 + 08V38-SFE-D00 Auto light control equipment for cars equipped with Vehicle bumper mounted attachment Normal [Vehicle fit: L]

Use the wiring+fuse+indicator stalk that comes with 08V38-SFE-D00, but use the Absolute foglights on the Absolute bumper. But this would mean that you would have a spare bezel set and brackets. Maybe you keep it for when you are selling your car, put back your original bumper with the foglights and sell the Absolute bumper with without the lens but with the bezels? Or Sell your car with the Absolute bumper and bezel only and sell the foglights + 08V38-SFE-D00 by themselves as a set?

Other than that I have got no idea... maybe you are right and should just get the burnt Absolute foggies.

[AusAccord]

as far as i remember, wiring, relay, switch stick and all cable-ties/screws are come from one box which is a separate part nr. the foglight, bracket and bezel cover are come from another box with different part nr. i did not read thru all the translation above but would go thru as Evo advised, get the brand new wiring stuffs then get whatever you need from the burnt one (am sure the foggies mounting bracket on Absolute is different to M,L Type due to different bumper design). If you want to go thru everything new then i'm interested on buying the original bezel (subj to price and pic below) as may change my front lip.

http://i30.tinypic.com/1yl4ic.jpg

[2k1cvc]

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/rb1odc/Odyssey/IMG_0086.jpg

Not too sure if I named the parts correctly, but you guys get the idea

Is there are away to just get the lenses? Mine cracked :(

[evolution]

Should be able to.

Part # for clear lens only are

33901-SFE-003 for FR lens
33951-SFE-003 for FL lens

Part # taken from SuperGT Hong Kong website.

[AusAccord]

if you are only after the clear lens, get the Jazz one as they are the same as far as i know or even the cheap copy on ebay

[Mobil1]

Hi guys,

So I've got the foglight harness pack now. Just wondering did everyone here fixed the foglights themselves? like front bumper removal necessary? did you follow the instructions and actually run the wires behind the bumper or just on top? Honda quoted about $132 just to fix it. My lamp housing and all is already on the bumper (been driving with a functionaless foglights)

[AusAccord]

aka_nsx, evolution and myself are DIY following instruction that emailed to you previously. removed front bumper, harness to main fuse box under bonnet. replace the OEM indicator stick to the one with foglight switch on steering column then admire your DIY. honestly, Honda quoted you $132 installed is very cheap and go for it if not wanting your hands dirty. last time Honda quote me $400+ for installing foglight.....

[Mobil1]

yeah bro damn weird. the suburb dealer quoted me $400, the city dealer $132.. anyway i was thinking of doing myself but not confident to remove the bumper. incase i cant put it back im stuffed coz i live in an apartment LOL

I think I'll just get this guy whos gonna roll my rear guards. he will do the rolling+foglight+door mirror control for about $400 all in. (yes bro Dan its Nelson hahaha)

[Atjo]

Haha he can do almost everything, hey Roy, is your absolute kit for pre-facelift or facelift?

[Mobil1]

Bro, both front and rear bumper is for facelift. Straight plug and play no need to mod anything at all. Side skirt doesn't really matter at all.

Pre-facelift the foglamp is an oval hole on the bumper (no bezel) not that good looking.

[evolution]

yeah bro damn weird. the suburb dealer quoted me $400, the city dealer $132.. anyway i was thinking of doing myself but not confident to remove the bumper. incase i cant put it back im stuffed coz i live in an apartment LOL

I think I'll just get this guy whos gonna roll my rear guards. he will do the rolling+foglight+door mirror control for about $400 all in. (yes bro Dan its Nelson hahaha)


Bro, what's the door mirror control thing? Auto tilt or auto fold?

[Mobil1]

Bro, what's the door mirror control thing? Auto tilt or auto fold?

suppose to be tilt & fold. since our mirrors dont have fold that mean only tilt will work.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?134996-Door-Mirror-Control-RB1&highlight=door+mirror

[evolution]

For a moment there I thought you got new mirrors as well.

[Mobil1]

For a moment there I thought you got new mirrors as well.

to be honest when i went to the halfcut shops in msia I was actually looking for them. LOL and also the control buttons and the plastic panel for the extra button...but unfortunately none hahaha

[FHF]

Sorry to hijack this old thread but I was wondering if someone here know if the rear bumber bar of a RB2 fits a RB1?

I need to either replace my rear bumper bar or install a body kit

Regarding body kits such as this one (http://www.importmonster.com.au/view?url=http://page12.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p304032416&thumb=http://auctions.c.yimg.jp/f34batchimg.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/6/8/4/2/parts_land_ts-thumb-1347264665836867.jpg&title=RB1%202) or this one (http://www.importmonster.com.au/view?url=http://page17.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/v269907851&thumb=http://auctions.c.yimg.jp/f52batchimg.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/6/9/7/3/getspeed777-thumb-1348181860293685.jpg&title=3%20RB1%20RB2) Do they sit flash once installed? Do they look good from a close look?

Cheers