DC5R Bendix Ultimate Pads with DBA 4000 Series Rotors

[AsHw3e]

Hey guys just wanted to ask a quick question about these 2 being put together. Now my friend put this set up on his skyline and was getting squeeling from the brakes.. i always thought that this was just a common problem on skylines. Just wanted to know if anyone has this set up on there DC5R's and if they do squeel or not? Also how good do they work?

Thanks.

[Nepolian]

Its the ultimate pads.....

Just save your money and do yourself a favor and get some red/yellow stuff or ferodo 2500 if you are mainly streeting and occasional tracking.

[[JDM DC2]]

Im running Ultimate Pads on RDA slotted rotors on my EG Civic and they are great. They bite well when cold for street driving and handle the heat well when I'm on the track. The only thing that I could fault them on is break dust. But we all know you're a show pony and never gonna go track XP haha

[aaronng]

Pads that bite hard also squeal. Ferodo's DS2500 and Project Mu NR's all squeal too.

[AsHw3e]

Its the ultimate pads.....

Just save your money and do yourself a favor and get some red/yellow stuff or ferodo 2500 if you are mainly streeting and occasional tracking.

Really? Damn.. I've already baught the bendix ultimate's a few months ago :( damn oh well, can't do much now lol just baught DBA's aswel. Guess I'll just have to see how they go :) .. Thanks 4 that tho

cheers

[AsHw3e]

;2784354']Im running Ultimate Pads on RDA slotted rotors on my EG Civic and they are great. They bite well when cold for street driving and handle the heat well when I'm on the track. The only thing that I could fault them on is break dust. But we all know you're a show pony and never gonna go track XP haha

What do u mean that they bite well? *noob here* lol .. This u Jeremy? Lmao! Yes my car will never see the track :P it's my everyday/street car :D .. gotta catch up soon

[AsHw3e]

Pads that bite hard also squeal. Ferodo's DS2500 and Project Mu NR's all squeal too.

Just when I was trying to avoid the squeeling lol. Mm guess will c how it goes once installed. Anything I need to look out 4 once there installed? Like any common issues I'd encounter n think it's a problem? Eg: pads squeeling.

Thanks mate.

[aaronng]

Just when I was trying to avoid the squeeling lol. Mm guess will c how it goes once installed. Anything I need to look out 4 once there installed? Like any common issues I'd encounter n think it's a problem? Eg: pads squeeling.

Thanks mate.

Pads squealing is not really a problem. It is a characteristic of high performance pads.

To minimise squeal, make sure you have installed the anti-squeal shims that were on the stock pads. They will help a little but won't eliminate squeal. Make sure you apply anti-sieze on the backing of the pad so that it does not bind to the caliper or cylinder. It is a grease, so don't get any on the rotor or the friction surface of the pad.

Also regrease the caliper pins while you are at it.

[[JDM DC2]]

What do u mean that they bite well? *noob here* lol .. This u Jeremy? Lmao! Yes my car will never see the track :P it's my everyday/street car :D .. gotta catch up soon

Yeh its me haha, I mean that sometimes with high performance pads when they are cold they dnt work very well and feel like they arn't gripping to the rotor well when they are cold but in my experience the Ultimates feel exactly the same as Bendix CT (which is a standard street pad) when cold

[aaronng]

;2785060']Yeh its me haha, I mean that sometimes with high performance pads when they are cold they dnt work very well and feel like they arn't gripping to the rotor well when they are cold but in my experience the Ultimates feel exactly the same as Bendix CT (which is a standard street pad) when cold

Yeah, pdas like DS2500 and I think EBC Yellow use more adhesion to provide braking force, so they don't work as well when cold but are fantastic when hot. Abrasion pads like the Ultimates and Project Mu NR work even when cold, but the downside is that the rotors wear out quicker.

[AsHw3e]

So does that mean the rotors I just baught are going too wear out fast now coz I have ultmiates? :( damn dat sucks.

[aaronng]

So does that mean the rotors I just baught are going too wear out fast now coz I have ultmiates? :( damn dat sucks.
Nope, they won't wear out that fast. Don't worry.

[AsHw3e]

Ok sweet. Was shatterd 4 a sec lol :) thanks for that. Can't wait till there in.. My brakes are gone so bad :(

[EVLGTR]

Hello, my friend wants me to purchase these DBA 4000 Series (Slotted) on his DC5 Type R....

There are two kinds with different prices that fits a DC5 :

http://dbadirect.com.au/products/DBA42508SL
http://dbadirect.com.au/products/DBA42500SL

[Tai]

DBA42508SL is for JDM DC5R

If you comapre the hub height ( B ) DBA42508SL is bigger.

JDM DC5R offset is +60.

And I've personally bought these for my JDM DC5R brake setup.

So your friend needs DBA42500SL if it is AUDM standard brakes.

[grifty]

Yeah, pdas like DS2500 and I think EBC Yellow use more adhesion to provide braking force, so they don't work as well when cold but are fantastic when hot. Abrasion pads like the Ultimates and Project Mu NR work even when cold, but the downside is that the rotors wear out quicker.

how much quicker? are we talking about like new rotors every time the pads are finished?

[aaronng]

how much quicker? are we talking about like new rotors every time the pads are finished?
It depends on driving style. The harder you brake, the quicker the rotors get chewed up. If you are gentle, the rotors can last longer than the pads. I had Lucas pads on one of my cars (surprisingly came as stock), and while the braking was very good, it chewed up the front rotor with just the first set of pads. The rotor was lipped that I could not remove the caliper without difficulty and the dealer also found that the front disc thickness was below spec.

[EVLGTR]

DBA42508SL is for JDM DC5R

If you comapre the hub height ( B ) DBA42508SL is bigger.

JDM DC5R offset is +60.

And I've personally bought these for my JDM DC5R brake setup.

So your friend needs DBA42500SL if it is AUDM standard brakes.

Thanks mate,
My friend has purchased a 4-pot caliper, not Brembos but just as wide and big as Brembos.
Cant remember the name of the caliper but will the DBA42508SL suitable for the application?

[Tai]

well you need to ask your friend if he is using JDM or AUDM hubs.

And what the brake caliper is designed for and them model.

[aaronng]

Thanks mate,
My friend has purchased a 4-pot caliper, not Brembos but just as wide and big as Brembos.
Cant remember the name of the caliper but will the DBA42508SL suitable for the application?
Your friend needs to find out dimensions are required because both the caliper and also the bracket which mounts onto the hub will require a different sized/dimensioned brake rotor.

He most probably can not use DBA42508SL with the calipers that he bought unless they were direct replacements for use with the stock rotor.

[grifty]

It depends on driving style. The harder you brake, the quicker the rotors get chewed up. If you are gentle, the rotors can last longer than the pads. I had Lucas pads on one of my cars (surprisingly came as stock), and while the braking was very good, it chewed up the front rotor with just the first set of pads. The rotor was lipped that I could not remove the caliper without difficulty and the dealer also found that the front disc thickness was below spec.

how long did the lucas pads last you? 40-50k?

[aaronng]

how long did the lucas pads last you? 40-50k?

Yeah, about 40k.

[EVLGTR]

Your friend needs to find out dimensions are required because both the caliper and also the bracket which mounts onto the hub will require a different sized/dimensioned brake rotor.

He most probably can not use DBA42508SL with the calipers that he bought unless they were direct replacements for use with the stock rotor.

Cool, so he needs a jdm hub which is higher in height. That'll be the first thing i'll get for him.
What sort of bracket Aaron?, the splash guard?

Cheers!

[AE092]

Try looking into QFM (Queensland Friction Material) pads. There sports version, the HP-X pad rates about the same as the Bendix Ultimates and don't cost as much aren't as dusty. I've raced on them on the track and the car is a daily, no issues and pulls you well either cold or hot.

Hope that helps.

[aaronng]

Cool, so he needs a jdm hub which is higher in height. That'll be the first thing i'll get for him.
What sort of bracket Aaron?, the splash guard?

Cheers!
The bracket is what holds the caliper to the hub. Is he using the stock bracket (so it is a straight caliper swap) or did the big brake kit come with its own bracket?

[EVLGTR]

The bracket is what holds the caliper to the hub. Is he using the stock bracket (so it is a straight caliper swap) or did the big brake kit come with its own bracket?

"Caliper bracket" if thats what you meant then yes it came with it.

Anyway back to the topic, there are two kinds of 4000 series (JDM & AUDM) disc brakes to look out for guys...DBA42508SL & DBA42500SL depending on your brake setup.

Cheers!