Engine Rebuild- Question

[HondaPie]

so as above lads :)
i was in mechanic today and he say that engine burn oil so i would like to rebuild it and have like new :D
where should i start ? what i need to buy ?
Best options pls and maybe some links with online shops wich one supplay the part
i want to know in two options
option 1- OEM Parts
option 2- Aftermarket
thanks in advans

[HondaPie]

as far as i found:
Head:
camshafts skunk2 pro series +2
retainers skunk2
springs skunk2
oversized valves +0.5
all toghether: 1250 Euro= 1863 Australian Dollars
Hondata S300- 395 Euro= 588 Australian Dollars
can i get better prize in Autralia ?
still need to find parts for bottom end :)
thats gonna be great project :D :D :D

[HondaPie]

any ideas for bottom end- short block or whatever u call it ?

[mugen_ctr]

depends on what ur after... If its power, get the whole bottom end rebuilt with forged items boost it, and ur set... if its jus a daily, oem is more than enough... nothing wrong with oem parts
If ur after high revving engine, again rebuilt bottom end... but totally rebuild to that of boosted engine, different parts for different specification
What engine btw? D series? or B-series?

[HondaPie]

B16a2, its for daily driving :) track somethimes maybe ;)

[mugen_ctr]

Next q's, N/A or Boost?
Even though people may say boosting isnt reliable, dont belive that, its nonsense, a well setup package will last for ages...
If going the N/A route, maybe EK9 pistons and rods? Or aftermarket gear, theres Toda, arias, an few more.... And also it depends on what compression you want....
And maybe Quad throttles, lol just for that extra bling factor and response on the track

[HondaPie]

its gonna be N/A, i was thinking about ek9 pistons, but think i may do that setup for a bottom:
Cometic headgasket
ACL bearings
ARP headstuds
ARP main studs
Supertech block guard
SRP or JE forget pistons
Eagle rods
Gates kevlar timing belt
is that setup give me some extra power ? i think it will :rolleyes:

[HondaPie]

so that what i think to fit:
Head:
camshafts skunk2 pro series +2
retainers skunk2
springs skunk2
oversized valves +0.5
Hondata S300
bottom:
Cometic headgasket
ACL bearings
ARP headstuds
ARP main studs
Supertech block guard
SRP or JE forget pistons
Eagle rods
Gates kevlar timing belt

[markismaximus]

can i get better prize in Autralia ?


most definitely not. Our parts are expensive, better off buying from the US!

[jdm_b16a]

Our parts are expensive, better off buying from the US!

Not as cheap as they were about a month ago, but, yeah, have a look around some US sites for cheaper prices but remember to factor in two things:

1. Not all US web-based merchants will ship OS.
2. The few that do, use International Couriers like UPS or FedEx, and that can be very expensive. Look for those that send US Parcel Post as you can get 'box rate' for $50 (that's if it will fit in a box). Bulky items forget it.

Peter

[HondaPie]

i have another option to put healty b18 block in to b16a2 head just wondering what i need for that ? it may be cheaper as well and it will be 1,8 :)

[dougie_504]

Hope you have a shitload of $$$ for this lol

[ewendc2r]

Its called an LS VTEC or poor man's type r .. Can work and is quite cost effective... If non vtec block then need to tap block for oil feed for vtec head, otherwise bolts straight up (effectively)..

[dougie_504]

Just use your B16A2 head to make a B20VTEC setup bro. Stock internals with I/H/E will pull 115-120kw easy. You'll be happy with it.

[HondaPie]

was thinking about b18c4 block, there is many things and i just lost with it :) what about b16b pistons on to my block ? that will increase compression for about 0.4 .

[dougie_504]

Just go B20VTEC and be done with it.

[HondaPie]

Just go B20VTEC and be done with it.
i heard that they have low compression and are heavy on juice :)

[Chr1s]

Is it school holidays or something????

It's heavy on juice if tuned wrong.

[HondaPie]

i just buy ocassionaly b16b block so i gonna to put that with my head, but i have one more question, can i run it on my ecu ? i have p2t SiR, but the lad who sell me the block wanna give me his ecu PCT. whats gonna be the best PCT or P2T, also i was thinking about P28 they are fairly cheap. so what's ur sugestions guys ?

[Chr1s]

Are you from this country?

If you are, ring someone like TODA, Ben, WHOEVER does this kind of swaps and pay a consultation fee to get all the answers you want sorted on the day. Bring a pen and paper and be done with it.

[HondaPie]

unfortunately im in Ireland at the moment :)

[dougie_504]

i heard that they have low compression and are heavy on juice :)

Low compression and heavy on juice?

Mate a B20VTEC makes tons of power down low compared to a B16 or B18, and isn't this for a daily driver like you said?

Do you think your fuel economy will be so much better with your planned head and bottom build, than with a B20?

If you're going to build an engine that's going to cost closer to AU$10,000 than AU$5,000 what would fuel economy even matter? May as well get a D15...

See below:


as far as i found:
Head:
camshafts skunk2 pro series +2
retainers skunk2
springs skunk2
oversized valves +0.5
all toghether: 1250 Euro= 1863 Australian Dollars
Hondata S300- 395 Euro= 588 Australian Dollars
can i get better prize in Autralia ?
still need to find parts for bottom end :)
thats gonna be great project :D :D :D

its gonna be N/A, i was thinking about ek9 pistons, but think i may do that setup for a bottom:
Cometic headgasket
ACL bearings
ARP headstuds
ARP main studs
Supertech block guard
SRP or JE forget pistons
Eagle rods
Gates kevlar timing belt
is that setup give me some extra power ? i think it will :rolleyes:

B16a2, its for daily driving :) track somethimes maybe ;)

[meatball]

save your money and buy a vtir or something.

[AE092]

Low compression and heavy on juice?

Mate a B20VTEC makes tons of power down low compared to a B16 or B18, and isn't this for a daily driver like you said?

Do you think your fuel economy will be so much better with your planned head and bottom build, than with a B20?

If you're going to build an engine that's going to cost closer to AU$10,000 than AU$5,000 what would fuel economy even matter? May as well get a D15...

See below:

^ What he said.

With engine building, you would rather over budget than under. I'm in the process of redoing mine (but Toyota 4AGE) and the head/head work alone is there 1k and that's with a mild port job and stockish cams. If your doing the work yourself, then fair call but parts alone and getting it done right (then tuned) is a different story.

[TODA AU]

^ What he said.

With engine building, you would rather over budget than under. I'm in the process of redoing mine (but Toyota 4AGE) and the head/head work alone is there 1k and that's with a mild port job and stockish cams. If your doing the work yourself, then fair call but parts alone and getting it done right (then tuned) is a different story.

Let me know when you clear your inbox, got a PM for you.
Cheers

Adrian

[AE092]

Done TODA AU,

Apoologies as I didn't realise my inbox was full

[distant0]

maybe you want to start thinking about force induction? that will be a much cheaper way to make power