Another "How to fit these wheels" thread..

[zhong]

Hi,

I basically want to know whether I'll be able to fit the following specs onto my S.

17x9 +30
17x9 +35

1. Will it fit?
2. What will be needed to make it fit?
3. How would it look on it, in terms of height/tucked/blah blah.

Any help would be appreciated.

PS. Work Meisters Sp1's.

Peace.

[zhong]

Only if it's worth the trouble of course.. Otherwise, I'll be looking at the proper offsets.. Mate's got his Meisters for sale, for quite an attractive price hence the idea.. But meh..

[sho]

i had issues with +40 ce28n's
had to flare the front guards
so i think +30 u have to flare and run massive camber

[vyets]

Depends on what tyre size/type he wants to run as well.

They're defiantly aggressive but if you're happy to run stretch it's a pretty easy fit. Just run 215's thin wall tyres all round like the toyo t1r. All the UHPT won't clear cas they have thick sidewalls.

Of corse you will always need the usual roll front + rears and relocation of bumper tabs.

[zhong]

Ahh stretched tyres hey.. What about the staggered setup that everyone raves about? Is it okay to run all round with the same widths, I've read that people reccomend to compensate with tyres, which in this case won't help.. My car was rolled/lipped by the previous owner, all the tabs are flipped in etccc.

So +35 offset ish isn't hard to fit? As this will give me plenty of more choice in wheel fitment for my S! I saw +65 in some threads on s2ki, and god damn.. I almost choked. What's UHPT? Cas?

Peace.

[Ferrari]

Ultra high performance tyre.

[vyets]

+60 is your standard offset, meaning it sits inside the guard.
Staggered or non staggered is based on the driver and how you like to drive. On the street you most likely won't notice the differences between the 2 setups

+35 is doable on stretched tyres.

[STAiN MASTER]

I think one of the guys here is running this setup, with rolled guards, removed rear bumper tab and some rear bumper cutting.

17x8 +35 215/40
17x8 +30 235/35

[vyets]

That's a 8" mate, these are 9".

Width and offset go hand in hand. The 9" will stick out more.

[STAiN MASTER]

So if you add 1/2 inch to each side it would be a very tight fit becuase those specs on a 8" rim is already at border line, 9" might fit if you run 225 with camber, I wouldnt go less then 225 on the rear.

also depends how low your car is, my mate who's on the 8" rim is slammed but it fits.

[tamay_s2k]

im running 18x9 on the rear with +38 offset
i dont scrub and im running 225/40 on the rear
the only time i was scrubbing was before i got my rear bumper mounts shaved and relocated.
17x9 +35 should fit with a bit of moditications.
make sure fronts and rears are both rolled
and ur rear bumper mounts r relocated. u can do this ur self. i did. i went to a panel beater and the qouted me 200 jus to drill 2 new holes and cut the mounts off.
just gotta make sure u run a decent amount of camber aswell


oh and my bak is sitting on the floor
so my tire is just tucked under the rear guard by like 1mm

[zhong]

My camber at the moment with stockies are -2.8..... Long story short, the camber adjuster bolts at the back was modified (rewelded stoppers) I think for a cheaper camber "kit". How much camber is "decent"? Tamay, do you have some photos you would like to share? :D

[tamay_s2k]

lmao
haha
yea hold up ill post some know
im running -3 on the rear by memory

[zhong]

Do you have a rear camber kit? Or is that stock? You managed to pull -3.0? If so, how did you or your aligner pull it off? I think the one with the stuffed adjuster is on -3.0 but the other side max we could get it to was -2.8 (just wanted to make it look less awkward).

[tamay_s2k]

i got mine done by a tire shop
apparently s2000s have the camber adjustment of up to -6 degrees.
so for most s2k owners fitting wheels through camber isnt really that much of an issue
but mine was also through many testing. on my old wheels i was running 18x7.5 on +40 offset and that scrubbed more suprisingly...but this was also due to the fact that i had 235s on a 7.5 inch tire.
wen i slapped my new wheels on
my car couldnt drive straight. all it did was scrub every time i took off so i had 2 take the car to a tire shop with stockies on the rear and had 2 also shave my bumper mounts when i was there.
after that i got no worries. if it ever scrapes... its due 2 a HOLE in the road.
2 me its as comfortable as running my stocks.
but dont let the pictures fool u. between the guard and the tire wall is max 1 finger gap

http://i27.tinypic.com/2rwrtcp.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/1zn5vgl.jpg
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv19/tamay_s2k/DSCF1173.jpg

[zhong]

Good stuff! I might just scrap the wheels and move the funds towards the supercharger, sprayed my stockies black anyway you'd be surprised with how many people ask me what brand my rims were.. :D Thanks all.

[VeYzZii]

whatever you do, do not stretch tyres.. It leaves the whole edge rim of the rim naked, and can be very difficult to get up basic driveways.

[tamay_s2k]

yea true
well so far ive had no issues but the only reason im using 225s stretched on the rear is becuase on the height im at..i cant fit 245s or else they will scrub on the guards like something redicules.
wen i get enough cash n buy coilovers
i will be rolling on 245s on the rear.

[ludecrs]

Good stuff! I might just scrap the wheels and move the funds towards the supercharger, sprayed my stockies black anyway you'd be surprised with how many people ask me what brand my rims were.. :D Thanks all.

if you're going FI you'll need wider and better rims for traction. I'm on a 9" rear and 245 35 ku36's and still spin 3rd gear and not game to try 4th.

[Ferrari]

if you're going FI you'll need wider and better rims for traction. I'm on a 9" rear and 245 35 ku36's and still spin 3rd gear and not game to try 4th.

Ku36 are crap, and 245 is weak sauce for you brad! Try a 255 advan ad08 and see the difference.

[vyets]

if you're going FI you'll need wider and better rims for traction. I'm on a 9" rear and 245 35 ku36's and still spin 3rd gear and not game to try 4th.

Mount some 265's on em. however it's not really gonna solve your traction problem lol

[ludecrs]

I know I know, shoosh shoosh both of you lol, I'm in the process of waiting for my new 3 PC polished Meisters to arrive from Japan. They only just shipped out today.

Going to re-barrel them to a 9.5" or 10" and run a wider rubber, so I may not be able to drop the car any further but whatever *shrugs*. See how we go!

I could probably fit a 265 under there now as is, but there's no point spending the money to do so (if I lose my license next week) and if I'm getting new wheels & tyres.

[JamieP]

What camber are you guys running? I still need to adjust mine to drop my car a bit lower. Do you feel much difference in the way the car drives when you add agressive amounts of negative camber?

[zhong]

So Ludecrs, have you sold your novi kit yet? Or sourced the missing brackets etc? :D

[tamay_s2k]

What camber are you guys running? I still need to adjust mine to drop my car a bit lower. Do you feel much difference in the way the car drives when you add agressive amounts of negative camber?
well naturally the more u camber the rear wheels, the less tire is incontact with the road...so less grip
ever since i changed my wheels my car has been much more tail happy.
in the wet, it will spin 1st 3 gears even without a clutch drop or anything
but that can also be becuase of my tires. the backs r pretty shit.

[JamieP]

Lol great, my car is already tail happy as it is

[sho]

im on neg 3 all round and have no issues with the car being tail happy
however at neg 4 in the rear it was a different story...

[fromdeeeast]

Can anyone tell me how 17x8 +30 all round would fit on an s2000?

Thanks guys!

[tamay_s2k]

they will fit. but u will need 2 roll ur front and rear guards and ull have probs about a good 3cm poke on the fronts alone.
also depends on how low u drop the car.
www.rimtuck.com
check this site man
itll show u all s2k fitments and how they fit them.
trust me..its like a bible.

[zhong]

^^^ Awesome site! Cheers tamay... No more hunting 40+ offsets! :D

[fromdeeeast]

How about the back? Would sit slightly in yer?

[tamay_s2k]

zhong: now worries man haha

umm
well im running 9 inch on the rear with 38+ offset n she sits just out the guard
im guessing that on a 8 inch rim with 8mm more poke ..hmmmm
at worst..it would just sit out probs like half a cm..nothing camber cant fix :P
wouldnt b suprised if it sits identicle 2 mine haha
im thinking of running 10mm spacers soon on the rear so then ill b running +28 on the rear on a 9 inch rim
i want more poke now

[fromdeeeast]

same thats the thing.

I want poke!

[tamay_s2k]

then +30 shuld b fine on ur car =]
and if it aint enough. jus get some spacers for that extra help

[zhong]

Sorry to revive the thread, but it seems the mrs wants to buy me some rims.. LOL

SSR SP1
17x8.5 +37
17x9.5 +43

Yay or Nay? My guards already been tab-tucked so it seems, and I'm suspicious at them being rolled slightly.. I wanted chrome finish, but it seems I can only afford black w/polish lips...

[tamay_s2k]

hmmm
the front may sit a bit out but the back should b perfect
overall the fitment will be tough :)
if you have already done the mods needed 2 fit them you will be fine
be sure 2 post pictures but!

[RaGz]

u can make them fit, just gotta play with camber and guard work until u find the right balance.

[zhong]

So when people say "it fits" do they assume:

- Stock Camber
- Stock Height
- Stock Guards
- Stock Tab Locations

Im running about -2.8 camber on my rears with stockies (don't ask me why....) and my tabs definately have been relocated.. When I calculate it based on the stockies, they should fit/run fine... I'm only really worried about the fronts, don't want no guard ripping action but I guess I'll just slip them on and see how it looks.. Can always ride high until I can afford new fenders or a bigger roll I guess. Will post pics, pending funds.

[vyets]

are your fronts rolled? FLAT?

[zhong]

I don't think so, I think I still have the "flat faced" lip bit.... Is it a big no no?

The fender's lip is tucked backwards, and my splash guards don't go up there anymore, so I assume that it's been done before.. Same with the rears. How can I tell if it's been rolled? Is there some sort of measurement I can measure to check?

[vyets]

as long as the fold is flat you'll be fine if not you will pull out your fenders.
What? you can't mesure it just feel if the guard has been rolled? lol

[zhong]

Lol, yeah it's flat.... I thought "ROLLED" meant making the stock arch wider.... and "LIPPED" meant flipping that flat bit... lol I'm such a noob...

Hope that's the case anyway! Cheers!

BTW. Does Vu still do rolling/flaring etc? Just incase... :P

[lzybum]

Sorry to revive the thread, but it seems the mrs wants to buy me some rims.. LOL

SSR SP1
17x8.5 +37
17x9.5 +43

Yay or Nay? My guards already been tab-tucked so it seems, and I'm suspicious at them being rolled slightly.. I wanted chrome finish, but it seems I can only afford black w/polish lips...

im running x9 +30, x9.5 +38 with -3 camber all round.
so the specs u put up looks like they will fit easily.

mind u im running stretched tires all round as well lol.

from my deduction, approx 15mm will require at least -1.3* camber, so if anything camber will fix it alll =)

[vyets]

Lol, yeah it's flat.... I thought "ROLLED" meant making the stock arch wider.... and "LIPPED" meant flipping that flat bit... lol I'm such a noob...

Hope that's the case anyway! Cheers!

BTW. Does Vu still do rolling/flaring etc? Just incase... :P

yea he does.

also depends on what size tyre your running you might get away with it even without rolling.

However it's always recommended the fronts to be rolled because even with stock rims you can mangle your guards once lowered.

[blackouT]

lol should see wat im running :D 17 x 8 +30 fronts, 17 x 9 +28 rears :D -1 fronts -2 rears!!! and its slammed hard! need to go get more camber in the rears though cause its sticks out just a tiny bit :D

[sambalam]

lol should see wat im running :D 17 x 8 +30 fronts, 17 x 9 +28 rears :D -1 fronts -2 rears!!! and its slammed hard! need to go get more camber in the rears though cause its sticks out just a tiny bit :D

so um pics or ban lol

thats huge! what are the tyre specs?

[zhong]

^^^ +1

And did you roll your guards?

[blackouT]

Ill try to get some pics asap! im running 215/40/17 all round lol! needs to be -3 at the back i think! booking it into the suspension shop soon to get it done :D

[vyets]

With that offset you can run fatter tyres then 215's I mean that's smaller then stock tyres, on a 17x9+30 rear you should easily clear with 235's at least.

[blackouT]

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af85/duongma/IMG_7546.jpg

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af85/duongma/IMG_7542.jpg

Just some pics after i installed my new invidia Q300

[lzybum]

^^
215/40 series tyres makes it look like rubberbands!

[pboi]

slammed? drop the rear lower :)

[EK4R]

9J×17H2ET42　　
8J×17H2ET45

would something like the above fit ok on the s2k? or would it require work down to it. camber roll guards?

[blackouT]

slammed? drop the rear lower :)

I want to but need to get rear guards rolled, rear bumper tabs relocated and a little trimming here and there lol!! +42 fronts and +45 should fit s2k nicely I have the same diameter and specs but my offset is a lot lower and it "almost" hahaha fits lol

[lzybum]

9J×17H2ET42　　
8J×17H2ET45

would something like the above fit ok on the s2k? or would it require work down to it. camber roll guards?

sounds like some bbs love? lol

for them sizes and offsets, a roll on all 4 corners, relocate rear tabs and camber (maybe -1F and -2R depending on tyre sizes) should do the trick

[le do]

guys im about to purchase some rims, but im not a real expert on what fits and what doesnt. i have an idea from reading this thread. but will 18x8.5 +44 fit? this is for the front and rear. im guessing i'll have to get my guards rolled, but correct me if im wrong. or will 18x9.0 +38 be better? im just looking for a good stance, slightly aggressive but nothing that will require me to remould the whole body just to fit it lol