B18 in EK1?!?!?!

[JDM-derek]

Hey Guys im pretty keen on putting a b18 in my ek1, just wanna know if anyones done this conversion and any issues and problems you had and i should be aware of.

cheers!

[dougie_504]

Get a good mechanic, pay good money, and you'll have minimal problems

[mocchi]

you need to set aside at least $500 for tools, and $100 for fluids.
engine crane, engine stand (if you need one), arm length breaker bar (not elbow length) and various sockets (in 3/8" and 1/2"), spanners, pliers and misc tools (i.e. impact driver w/ good hi-carbon bits, not chinese shit)

mechanic would cost abt 1-1.5g to swap engine.

[JDM-derek]

yeahh im a mechanic apprentice ive got all the tools, need to borrow the crane from work tho.


guys know if it goes straight in or not? and mountin

[dougie_504]

Need B-series mounts.

[EK1 Civic]

Out of curiosity does an ek1 get to keep a/c with a b18 droped in it? seen some egs wit k20s and such that dont have a/c. What if a k20 or so was in an ek1, would it still be able to have a/c?

[JDM-derek]

Out of curiosity does an ek1 get to keep a/c with a b18 droped in it? seen some egs wit k20s and such that dont have a/c. What if a k20 or so was in an ek1, would it still be able to have a/c?

Ive heard that aswell and some ppl have no AC and Power steering :S

[yellows2k]

this is one of my biggest gripes whenever i see conversions, especially ones for sale.
ive owned an ek1 with a b18c7 and it had ac and ps,that was wat i was looking for and i made sure it had it. u can prob see my fs thread when i had it
i have an eg5 with a b18cr now and it has ac and ps. the k20 conversions, from what i understand dont have ac and ps cos its more expensive than the b series conversions. people say its only a few hundred, but ive heard that its at least $1000 to put ac in. anyway, b series is easier to get ac and ps working apparently, thats why its more common

[EK1 Civic]

this is one of my biggest gripes whenever i see conversions, especially ones for sale.
ive owned an ek1 with a b18c7 and it had ac and ps,that was wat i was looking for and i made sure it had it. u can prob see my fs thread when i had it
i have an eg5 with a b18cr now and it has ac and ps. the k20 conversions, from what i understand dont have ac and ps cos its more expensive than the b series conversions. people say its only a few hundred, but ive heard that its at least $1000 to put ac in. anyway, b series is easier to get ac and ps working apparently, thats why its more common

Oh ok thanks for clearing that up.

[ozboi]

Putting a B18 into an EK won't cause much dramatic probs or issues because B series and D series engines are created pretty much the same. A good example for this is EK4 with B16A and EK1 with D16Y. If you open up the bonnet and have a quick look into the engine bay. The settings and all that is all the same between those series engine.
Similar drive shafts, header not too low, you dont need any custom parts like a K series swap.
You should consider the air-con (a/c) and power steering (p/s) issues. If it's a race car....so dw about the a/c but I don't think you ll survive in Summer. The p/s is a compulsory need. I tried a van without p/s...it's horrible mate!
When you swap the engine, it seems like you buy a new car. So I suggest you spend a bit on the paint as well, especially the engine bay because it will look rusty. When you get the B18 you need to get a suitable gear box. You have to do a bit on the engine block, change new parts (piston, rods, cam, belt...etc) for it because you dont wanna pull it out and rebuild the engine again. Same thing goes for the gear box....get new fly wheel + clutch. It will cost you more for that if the gear box already in the engine bay. There will be more engine parts you need to change when you actually do the job. Change new parts and you ll be fine. Honda engines are tough. It ll take you long time to find a suitable B18 so plan everything first. $10k should be enough for you! Cheers!

[sangyz]

10k is way overboard buddy for a ekb18c swap. And you do not need to open the engine and do cams rods and stuff theres no need for that unless you want to do these mods you can just keep the b18c motor stock. Easiest way is to find yourself a halfcut so you have yourself the a/c kit as well as power steering to swap over as well and all you need to do is the normal things before you drop it in like timing belt waterpump seals and so on. You will also need to source looms to suit your ek as the itr looms does not suit ek's.

As soon as all those small things are done its pretty much drop in and its ready to go. If you are doing this yourself you will prob look at 6-7k? depending on how much you source your engine for.

[yellows2k]

U can get already done ones for 10k. Save the headache

[sangyz]

as he said. but it all comes down to your decision like do i save money and buy one already done or do it yourself for the experience and the feeling that you build this beast yourself and spend abit more :D

[big_kev]

Im having the same questions as well. I think if you are not in a rush then do it yourself. like ozboi said, before you put the engine in its better to replace the parts or even do the cams and stuff, save yourself taking the engine out again. same as the gearbox. And if you do it yourself at the end you will end up a bit more expansive then buying one, but it will last longer then the one you buy as every parts you put in you know the condition of it.

[azzar]

hey guys!
im thinking about putting an B18 in my EK1 as well.
woo man the prices seems so dear! one of my mechanic quoted me 2,000ish WITH the B18 Engine! and i was like WHAT thats unbelievably cheap! well it wasn't really a quote because i was just servicing my car one day then just out of curiosity and asked him the question... Just say it is for 2,000ish would i need to do anything else to my car like change the gear box and stuff, or is it just drop and go!

[bummy]

lol 2k for b18 what?
b18a/b/c?

[sangyz]

well obviously if you change to a b18 you will need a b series gearbox preferably b18 gearbox from same engine but you can go other b series gearbox's. and from ek1 it would be good to upgrade your brakes as well as the ek1 brakes are kinda weak for a b18 engine. and 2k for a b18?? maybe he only gave you quote for the engine alone with no motor and maybe it was b18c2??

[Perry]

As long you have all the parts you will be fine like wiring etc.

[JDM-derek]

2k wow! thats dirty cheap!
my mate told shift performace does it for 900 :S

[Jye]

Drop a 2.2ltr Accord engine in there! :p

[dougie_504]

If your budget doesn't accommodate for a VTEC B-series then get a H22A :)

[VTECnique]

when u guys say B18, do u mean the B18C or the b18b?!

[dougie_504]

when u guys say B18, do u mean the B18C or the b18b?!


Japanese 'B18C' or the Autralian B18C7

[mugen_ctr]

quick question, what if u just use a half cut or so? last time i checked a half cut Integra B18c was goin for like 3-4k... wouldnt that be a easier way rather than sourcing every part??? and just pay some one to transfer all the gear into ur car

Would the fuel lines fit up, as well as all the ps/ac lines/brake lines/abs modules etc... to make for perfect fitment? or this just isnt possible without modification to the lines

[GSi_PSi]

ive been quoted 2.3k for b18c2 with installation into my integra when i blew my gsi engine

[mocchi]

when u guys say B18, do u mean the B18C or the b18b?!

its so vague. some ppl refer their b18c2 as b18c. sigh. its big difference.
please only say b18c when it is actually stamped b18c. i dont get these ppl.

[VTECnique]

its so vague. some ppl refer their b18c2 as b18c. sigh. its big difference.
please only say b18c when it is actually stamped b18c. i dont get these ppl.

my point exactly i dont know if the OP is using a B18C or a B18B?!

Sometime ago i was looking into dropping a B18B2 into my EK1. reason being for the B18B2 is because its alot cheaper, & im sure i can find a wrecked GSi for pretty cheap...

Its still an 'upgrade' from the d16y4, an extra cam & 200cc more. Much better motor for boost aswell, rods arent toothpicks like the D-bangers....

[dougie_504]

The B18B is another engine that I think is underrated. I drive my brother's with I/H/E every now and then, and it pulls fine. Much faster than a D-series and without the bigger price figures associated with the B's and K's.
The only let-down with it is the GBox ratios and FD, but if you can find a hydro B16A GBox for like $500 +/- that would fix this issue nicely.

On the other hand, if you're considering a B18B upgrade why not consider a AUS delivered H22A? It would only set you back an extra $500 for the motor at most, and then you're looking at 150kw of DOHC VTEC goodness! I'm heard the 2.2L torque in a Civic really is something to behold :D

[mugen_ctr]

B18b pulls much better than D-series, but again, suffers the same thing, runs outta puff pretty quick after 100km/h lol, but certainly a worthy upgrade should u blow ur D-series

Ive seen H22a conversion, pretty good, correct me if im wrong, but wouldnt doin h22a eliminate ac and ps? h22a is quite the motor, pulls hard all round

[dougie_504]

I'm sure you can run AC and PS if you're desperate. There are ways to re-route the pumps and all that stuff, or you could get a 1/2 radiator etc to create more space. But hey PS is overrated IMO like ABS lol

[VTECnique]

the only reason i would drop a B18B in my ek1 is because on a stock block they take well to boost. ~250whp on a stock block sounds good to me....

[dougie_504]

B16 blocks can take 250WHP also.

Not sure about D's though...anybody tested?

[mugen_ctr]

are we talking about how much the actual block can take before cracking or as in the bottom end? lol
A friends cousin eg, b16 made around 320hp on dyno, so im assuming that B16 can hack more, but not for very long, stock bottom end as well
With regards to D16, around 150kw is the limit, before it spits out a rod, just from what iev seen and heard

[JDM-derek]

ive seen alot of H22A wit no air con n PS....alot to sacrifice.
D16 are hopeless i recon! unless you turbo it!