s2k or autech s15?

[andyandy]

wondering what your opinion is ?

s2k or autech s15?

[fromdeeeast]

s2000, more fun, looks better, faster

autech - less power, you'll get pumped by cops thinking its turbo especially if you have p plates up, more practical than s2000, larger modifying market and parts

lol cbf writing more thats the basic idea

i went with s2000 :)

[andyandy]

LOL, yeah ive been doing some research

heres a autech for sale - http://www.japaneseautocentre.com.au/el/zoom.php?id=1734

[EK1 Civic]

Y buy an s15 non turbo? i was looking at 300zx, supras and skylines. Then thought whats the point if non turbo? i'd go for s2000 or something cheaper if your on your p's. Im still on my L's wit my EK =/

[54VVA]

i would go the s2000
u will have more fun with it
n i think it is a nicer car and is better quilty than the s15
if u cant make up your mind, y not just go n test drive both cars n see which 1 u like the best.

[OMG.JAI xD]

Who ever voted the autech can lick balls.

Sr20de's arent made to breathe this earth for an n/a setup. Especially in an s15.

That thing runs 16 second 1/4 miles. Youre better off getting a SSS.
s15 in the autech version only has the looks. Thats it.

[EKVTIR-T]

S15 with an RB


And not sure about the above "larger modifying market and parts" theory..

Maybe he can elaborate on that one lol

[aznstyler]

Personal choice to be honast, depends on what you wanna do,.. end of the day the s15 can fit two more people

[Giraffe]

s15 has a roof and apprently should put the same power as the turbo version.

[defect]

aznstyler: do you realise a s2000 is also a 2 seater? lol

[Riviera]

s2k all day unless ur a drifter and hav plans for a RB or 2J swap lol

[xenonkuraz]

if u cant make up your mind, y not just go n test drive both cars n see which 1 u like the best.

The best advice here

but yeah why would you get an n/a s15?

[niiCk]

aznstyler: do you realise a s2000 is also a 2 seater? lol

defect: do you realise a s15 is a 4 seater? lol

[Killa From Manila]

u do realise the back seats in an s15 are practically useless
fk passengers neway lol
besides an s15 without a turbo is like a woman without boobs
and the comment about both s15's having the same peak power, the turbo version wud have much larger area under the torque curve = faster car

[tamay_s2k]

i got a s2k and my mate has a autech s15.
s15s are nice but the whole point of those cars r the sr20det. getting a non turbo model i believe is just boring n lame.
s2k is built with a mother of an engine and u will really enjoy it
imagine rocking up next to a set of lights next 2 s15 turbo...u will feel a bit like a tool. but rocking up next 2 a fellow s2k brother..u will feel proud ;)

[niiCk]

lol thats cause youre in a s2k,
what if you were in a s15 and pulled up next to a s15?

[aznstyler]

aznstyler: do you realise a s2000 is also a 2 seater? lol

lol @ you

[acurabot]

why pay the price for a non-turbo S15 with it's cheaper to get a turbo? if its not a turbo S15, then its not worth getting one at all imo.

[acurabot]

aznstyler: do you realise a s2000 is also a 2 seater? lol

i think he said it can fit two more people than a s2k making it a 4 seater not two...

[tamay_s2k]

lol thats cause youre in a s2k,
what if you were in a s15 and pulled up next to a s15?

i've been in my mates car wen his pulled up next 2 the lights with a turbo s15 and he feels like a tool bcuz even though they look the same...the reality is there 2 different cars and the autech in reality just cant b compared...its liek having the worst version of a good car.
u no that no matter wat u do..there is alwasy gonna be that one that is better
why settle for second best? buy the car that is built to the best of its abilities..not its retarded cousin.
and plus..autech r going for the same price as the spec r
but then again
thats my opinion..i dont expect everyone 2 agree. respect yo!

[andyandy]

good advice guys! thanks!. but i think the s15 non turbo is 148kw ? correct me if im wrong

yeah i think the s2k is the way to go:)

[andyandy]

+ the autech has a drop top version which looks like a shitbox

[EK1.6LCIV]

if you dont like convertibles the s15 isnt too bad, then you have to love the engineering qualities that is an old nissan engine (step one join nissan silvia and get all the pdf's you can as youll need them)

theyre roughly the same price anyhow, see which is cheaper to insure, but I can imagine the s2k still getting better ks to a tank, having far superior fittings (plastics line up very well and dont crack like nissans)

only plus is the s15 is a three seater if your mates are tall

dont get ether if you dont have the cash outright

[duzy]

rated @ 148kw but its pissweak for what it is. Do it once, do it right and go turbo. Although fun to drive and it's a great package overall, but its just the s2k would be heaps better imo

once you dyno it expect like 120-130kw atw

[tamay_s2k]

with the s15
ur looking at pros 100kws atw whilst in the s2k
u shuld b getting roughly 135kws at the rears.
ive got an s2k and i have no trouble keepi up with spec r s15s which have light mods. (exhaust and intercooler) and all i got done is a intake n mufflers
so i can imagine a autech cant do this.

[andyandy]

+ get laid everynight with s2k :P

[DC4Integra98]

I'd go s2000 if you can't drive a turbo. Wouldn't bother with the autech...

Personally the s2000 drives like a laggy turbo with a little kick at the end of the lag :)

Response on a dc5r > s2000

[ekay1]

Personally, i would go with the s15 as the car can carry 2 extra people, plus would be slightly cheaper and probably a better ride for long trips. im not into small cars or tracking so the s2k wouldnt float my boat. however, if you dont need the extrs seats and want a sportier drive, go the s2k.

[Giraffe]

you do relise its a honda forum, so answers might be biased, at the end of the day its personal prefrence, no-ones stopping you on making the decisions only yourself.
i think its best to test drive both cars, and which one you feel more suitable for .

[ekay1]

LOL so true, it is ozHONDA after all.

[tomyum]

andy go for tha s2k mate

[em1boy]

wow this thread is full biased LOL an autech running 16s on the 1/4mile? no way, so your saying the aus specS is that slow? cos apparently the autechs were quick as the specS AND factory tested the autechs to be mid 14s on the 1/4 LOL

[GSi_PSi]

^ they do best of high 15..... this is from seeing couple of them at wsid...

where is your information ? or you just speaking out the asss

[muzukashi]

S2000 will get the chicks and goes hard

Autech will get taken easily by a sportivo, chicks will like it aswell for looks but once they realise what it really is then they'll run off to someone whos got an S2000

[GSi_PSi]

^ haha lol
if you can get a clean autech for around 15-17k its worth it, because for around the 18-23k you will be getting a high kms, shitty s2000...

[lsvtec]

autech s15

[Setanta]

Neither! Save your money until you can drive a turbo and then buy a spec r s15

[Indie]

You could get a better example of an Autech for the price, and it's a nice car, but I'd have to agree that an S15 is meant to have at least an SR20DET under the hood.

If you're only looking at the Autech because you can't drive a turbo, then you'd be wise to wait until you can drive a turbo, or have saved more. You'll need more money for a decent example of an S2000. Just don't bite off more than you can chew.

An Autech in good condition would be a great daily drive, though.

[em1boy]

my bad if i was wrong GSi_PSi, read up it from another forum, jst feel bad for the autech owners, knowing that this ozhonda after all lol. correct me if im wrong heard s2ks had shit diffs LOL a mate of mine told me he knew a guy who sat the s2k on the spot for a couple of seconds and blew the diff rofl thats a couple of g's to replace looool whats the point of have a rwd if the diffs shit.

[geeang]

my bad if i was wrong GSi_PSi, read up it from another forum, jst feel bad for the autech owners, knowing that this ozhonda after all lol. correct me if im wrong heard s2ks had shit diffs LOL a mate of mine told me he knew a guy who sat the s2k on the spot for a couple of seconds and blew the diff rofl thats a couple of g's to replace looool whats the point of have a rwd if the diffs shit.

My friend's mate's counsin's friend's uncle blew a diff...... Unless you've had first hand experience I doubt you're in any position to judge the S2000, or even the Autech S15.

[mugen_ctr]

S15 for practicality!

S2k for the weekend warrior!

As far as build quality goes, Honda all the way, S15 can seem a bit dull at times, but the air vents are pretty cool, seats are pretty nice, they hold u nice an tight, the SR20 can get noisy due to the chain, but easy to fix, the interior will start creaking over time, but other wise the S15 is a fantastic car to own, my brother had one, i had it for a period of time, an loved it, its sleek an sexy, no need for bodykits, jus a nice set of rims an ur set....

[hussLEr]

Get a 350Z and beat both the s2k and autech s15. Easy.

They're also priced very similarly to the s2k and autech s15.

[Indie]

You can get a 350Z for the same price as an S2k? Really...?

[em1boy]

well im jst gonna see if my mate who recently bought a s2000 will blow his diff.. probly not, loves his car LOL. and to indie, yerh for somereason you can find cheap 350z's probly with high kms but they aint p plate legal, my mate got done driving one LOL

[dlai5552]

S2K man! I had a choice between the turbo s15's and a 325kw atw s14 all immaculate, and they all wanted to swap for my dc5.
but got the s2k! much better car imo!

[tamay_s2k]

s2000s are crazy cars. but after owning 1 for 2 years it looses its buzz factor, thats wen u need BOOST!!!

[Sagat]

andyandy, I think that the extra dollars for an s2k over the autech s15 are definately justified because of the better stock performance and
that you would be more likely to find an s2k with a full australian service history (from new)!

i would also like to add tp OMG.JAI xD's comment that if you want an n/a sr20 then you could look at a audm sss or one of the imported
higher performance pulsars if you want a car with more practicality!

[Indie]

Nobody shopping for Silvias and S2ks is going to buy a Pulsar, though.

[RSKEbaby]

Im selling my dc2r becuase of wanting to upgrade to one of these and after test driving both s2k and s15, I will be putting myself into the s2k.

only bad point is, lack of space and back for daily.

but who cares.

[MrJohn]

wondering what your opinion is ?

s2k or autech s15?

haha ur in a honda forum but ur asking nissan or honda OF COURSE HONDA!!!

[Indie]

haha ur in a honda forum but ur asking nissan or honda OF COURSE HONDA!!!Driving a Honda shouldn't make you blind to the virtues of other makes, however.

This thread has made me realise how much 350Zs have dropped in price. One day...

[DTN]

whats your budget?

what are you going to use the car for?

[tamay_s2k]

My friend's mate's counsin's friend's uncle blew a diff...... Unless you've had first hand experience I doubt you're in any position to judge the S2000, or even the Autech S15.
em1boy is right. s2ks have shit diffs. if u disagree with that then ur clueless about these cars rofl. i blew mine..and 5 drive shafts along with it. they naturally have a very weak rear end, unless ur a baby with 1. if ur into "spiritual driving" and unless ur ready to fork out proper money for a proper build diff then stay away from these cars as all u will get his headache after headache. especially if u have bad driving habits. all my mates wanna get rid of theres bcuz there getting diff problems. i just forked out 4k for a full proper built diff and im loving her :)...keep up with my cousins SPEC R s15 which is boosted aswell :)

[geeang]

em1boy is right. s2ks have shit diffs. if u disagree with that then ur clueless about these cars rofl. i blew mine..and 5 drive shafts along with it. they naturally have a very weak rear end, unless ur a baby with 1. if ur into "spiritual driving" and unless ur ready to fork out proper money for a proper build diff then stay away from these cars as all u will get his headache after headache. especially if u have bad driving habits. all my mates wanna get rid of theres bcuz there getting diff problems. i just forked out 4k for a full proper built diff and im loving her :)...keep up with my cousins SPEC R s15 which is boosted aswell :)

Where in my post did I disagree? He's spouted alot of bs in this thread so I simply told him he's in no position to judge a car's worth because of "thingz he heardz from a cuz bro".

[OMG.JAI xD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=issHKD4iJuI

Please.. stop the debate. SR20's are never. EVER. Meant to be n/a.
Only way they could get away with n/a is if it had an SR20/22ve head with variable lift. I know that video is just a straight line, but i seriously doubt the thing can keep a stable drift, it would probably keep catching traction because of the lack of power.
And its not because its posted on a honda forum (well has a bit to do with it) but youre comparing a car that retails at 50grand brand new TOPS to a car that 80-90 grand brand new. Also remember, the s2k is a 1999 model that NEVER changed for the AUDM market. Few things changed here n there but everything is basically the same.
Dont think Im a hater. I owned a spec r and that thing was a very easy car to handle. Get it sideways and its a very forgiving car. But autech, should never have made an n/a sr20 in the s15. Its like putting an RB20 in a r34 calling it the 20gt.

[mugen_ctr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=issHKD4iJuI

Please.. stop the debate. SR20's are never. EVER. Meant to be n/a.
Only way they could get away with n/a is if it had an SR20/22ve head with variable lift. I know that video is just a straight line, but i seriously doubt the thing can keep a stable drift, it would probably keep catching traction because of the lack of power.
And its not because its posted on a honda forum (well has a bit to do with it) but youre comparing a car that retails at 50grand brand new TOPS to a car that 80-90 grand brand new. Also remember, the s2k is a 1999 model that NEVER changed for the AUDM market. Few things changed here n there but everything is basically the same.
Dont think Im a hater. I owned a spec r and that thing was a very easy car to handle. Get it sideways and its a very forgiving car. But autech, should never have made an n/a sr20 in the s15. Its like putting an RB20 in a r34 calling it the 20gt.

Disagree man, they proved that the NA SR20 has potential, this car isnt about getting it sideways! its all about the driving pleasure, If autech wanted to, they coulda just boosted it and called it a day.
And the Autech S15 wasnt a 80k car, way less! around the 3,900,000 yen or around 45k mark, or more so 50-60k if sold here

off topic, but If nissan can get the Pulsars SR16 to perform as well as the Civic B16B and out match it on the track, than that i say is impressive to say the least, so why not try it on the SR20DE!

[euromandeluxe]

He meant that the autech was 50k tops, the S was around 80K new

[mugen_ctr]

He meant that the autech was 50k tops, the S was around 80K new

Oh, Miss read that

There isnt much convertibles in that price range, besides the astra an that, so really, for what u pay, its worth it, the next step id say is the bmw Z4 brand new that is

[Killa From Manila]

some info for ppl - jdm s15 spec s is non turbo, unlike the aussie spec s and r which are both turbo. so yea the autech wud be faster than a JDM spec s, but probs not the aussie spec s

[SuperJDM.]

i swear iv heard that the autech S15 is as fast as the Spec S in Aust

[mugen_ctr]

The only difference between the ADM S-spec and R-spec, is the trim, aero package, and thats as far as it goes, mechanically, they are all the same

Jdm versions are quite different, more powerful engine, Better turbo (ball bearing T28), Digital climate control, more trim available, Boost gauge and rear windscreen wiper, and obviously better ecu tune for Much higher octane fuel

As far as Autech S15 vs ADM Spec-S, Spec s still comes out on top, better torque and power curve, turbo will always come out the better for these cars

[Killa From Manila]

yea as above, theres no way the autech can be quicker than the aus spec s, and not the r as they are identical apart from trims.

[seihoa]

Nothing wrong with an autech. Obviously ull get flamed for having a non turbo s15 but who gives a ****?

U can built up ur autech suspension wise and exterior until u get ur fulls and drop a built motor straight in. Thats if u wont get sick of the cars look by 3 years or so.

s2k is sexy in terms of looks and performance. But can you deal with a 2 seater? Doubt it unless you have another spare car to drive around? Parents car maybe?

Ever considered dc5r? dc2r? rx8?
They are all in your price range.

[mugen_ctr]

Nothing wrong with an autech. Obviously ull get flamed for having a non turbo s15 but who gives a ****?

U can built up ur autech suspension wise and exterior until u get ur fulls and drop a built motor straight in. Thats if u wont get sick of the cars look by 3 years or so.

s2k is sexy in terms of looks and performance. But can you deal with a 2 seater? Doubt it unless you have another spare car to drive around? Parents car maybe?

Ever considered dc5r? dc2r? rx8?
They are all in your price range.

Kinda defeats the sole purpose of buying a autech S15, more like, sell it later on than get a turbo S15, why bother dropping in a Sr20det when theres plenty of good S15

[EK1.6LCIV]

s15, easier to repair when and if it needs it, has back seats, decent second hand market for parts, a shite load of sils around to ratio of s2000s

whatever is cheaper to insure in the end as I've liked driving both

[Indie]

Yeah, I've changed my mind from the S2k to the Autech. I'd take a nice clean, de-spoilered, non-turbo S15 any day. But I'm not some street racer.

I have a mate who's been tossing up between a WRX, S2k and an RX-8, however, and I would go the RX-8. Very nice car. Sweet chassis, sweet engine. Lovely car.

[SuperJDM.]

RX8 sweet engine?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhiis9CcwL1qagifg.png

[Indie]

Great input.

[mugen_ctr]

Yeah, I've changed my mind from the S2k to the Autech. I'd take a nice clean, de-spoilered, non-turbo S15 any day. But I'm not some street racer.

I have a mate who's been tossing up between a WRX, S2k and an RX-8, however, and I would go the RX-8. Very nice car. Sweet chassis, sweet engine. Lovely car.

Both cars are desirable, but for two different reasons, both cars will make u happy either way :)

RX-8 isnt the greatest car tbh, there slow, drink fuel and burn oil, due to there 2 stroke nature (me personally, i think all rotary s are infact 2 stroke, not 4 stroke, and have displacement of in total 3.9 liters, not 1.3 liters )

[Indie]

Yeah, that's true. I'm not one to call an RX-8 'slow' (although it's certainly not quick), but the fuel and oil consumption is high considering the lack of true performance. Not quick enough for a weekender, not practical enough for a daily? I'm not sure how their economy compares to that of a WRX, but I imagine the S2k would be the cheapest to run?

[drsilliez]

Rx8s are hot but I hate the bloody issues with engine flooding. It's not a car u can just drive around the corner to pick something up then start it up again. Gives me the shits each time I drive it! Plus my s2000 feels more raw compared to the rx8 but both are pretty similar in regards to performance. It's not like I drag them anyway.

One of the only few upsides of the rx8 is 4 seater and the interior looks hot!

[mugen_ctr]

Yeah, that's true. I'm not one to call an RX-8 'slow' (although it's certainly not quick), but the fuel and oil consumption is high considering the lack of true performance. Not quick enough for a weekender, not practical enough for a daily? I'm not sure how their economy compares to that of a WRX, but I imagine the S2k would be the cheapest to run?

Well on average, a guy i use to know, averaged 14liters/100kms, pretty poor

[Renaissance_x]

s2000 all the way.

[dc292177917]

not going to vote for either one but,
saw someone saying RB is the way to go with silvia...
plz do some research abt SR20, they r one of the best 2L...