Whirring 1.3 JAZZ

[NX-687]

When I gently rev my 1.3 Jazz I get a whirring noise like a whirring bearing

But when I put my foot down on the clutch it stops , what the heck is that , normal , or what

its done 10,000 Ks

Thanks in advance

[NX-687]

Hi Did a search , Its the input shaft bearing in the box , do you reckon I can get a warranty on it its a year old , is it common ???
thanks

[sneakyEG]

Yeah you should get warranty.. I have heard of one other Jazz with a similar fault.

[NX-687]

Hi

No I didn't get warranty for that

[NX-687]

My next question is , my wife is taking it and my son to Melbourne in November , in 2 months,

it cant have any dangerous sort of failure can it ?

[pulsarxxx]

How did you manage to do that?

[shadou]

lol lol Honda won't cover it as it will be deemed wear and tear at drivers fault.
As for the dangerous part it won't be dangerous, worst case scenario it fails and then your wife and son are stranded some place in the middle of melb and wherever she was driving from =p
but unlikely, it's like everything in life, it can go bad or it can last really up to how lucky you are feeling.

[twing]

Hi

No I didn't get warranty for that

I'm really surprised that the bearing gave up after JUST 10,000 km.
Usually the bearing failed when it reaches 100,000+ km.
Did you buy the car new?

[NX-687]

I bought it new about a year ago , about a week ago took it to a gearbox specialist and they just sat in it ,and listened, they did not drive it , and they said I would get warranty for that

[NX-687]

Who is the best person to talk to,,,,, about Jazz gearboxes ?

are they in the US ?

that is a pretty big market over there

[NX-687]

Hi The club jazz forum UK lists about 5 main Jazz faults , one is a noisy gearbox , which can happen pretty early,,,,, and the UK people seem to get some good solutions. I use to work in a transmission plant so I can understand any technical talk ,
So is the problem , that the bearing was put in wrong in Thailand, or is it a generic type missalignment between motor and gearbox , I wish I could talk to a Honda mechanic

[NX-687]

Hi You can hit me with the tech talk I use to work in a transmission plant , I was the guy who put the knobs on the gear sticks , ha ha , well it was a slightly better job than that

[sneakyEG]

Hey mate.. if i were you i would go to a Honda Dealer Service Dept, get them to check out the noise (shouldnt be charged for it as you are concerned about a noise in your car that is under warranty- if it is not in repairable right-off status?) If they DONT find the fault or fix it got to another dealer and try again.... sounds stupid but some dealers differ to others, trust me! You would be silly to pay to have a faulty input shaft bearing replaced with such a new car..

[NX-687]

Hi
Ive noticed my Jazz gearbox getting noisier , and my honda dealer said to monitor it , I dont know what that means

I dont see how the Honda Magazine can have such superlatives about servicing,,,,,, and car and customer care when in reality honda dealers let you operate a car that is not mechanically right

[shadou]

mechanically right? it's just a noise, if it were in any real danger then it would be naive for a dealer to let you continue driving an unsafe/unroad worthy vehicle.
Monitor means to monitor the problem, record any further problems and then at the next service (or prior if it worsens to the point you feel unsafe) bring it the the dealership and show them the problem (show as in take them for a spin, sit in the car with them and point out the issue), not hard, and it helps the lads in the back rather than ink on paper that says noise somewhere in engine bay.

[NX-687]

It looks like the gearbox problem has been happening since about 2005 , that should have been enough

time for Honda to fully sort the problem , but they havnt done that , and my whirring gearbox bearing is

getting louder , I was looking at a brand new Jazz on the showroom floor ,but its a good bet that it just

still has the inherent problem from 2005

[NX-687]

One of the things that it could be,,,,,,, is that it just wasnt filled up right with oil , my friend at work had his brand new car 2 weeks before he checked the engine oil,,,,,, and had to add at least 1.5 litres of engine oil to get the oil up to the low mark on the dipstick .

[Poeter]

I had gearbox failing on me too. A brand new gearbox cost $3k and you may fetch it for $700 from the wreckers.

I had no warranty, so it was a costly process.

[NX-687]

Good news , my Dealer is going to rebuild it , its got 20,000 KMs now , is the Jazz and civic gearbox the same , my boss just bought a Civic and wants to know

[fillit]

no, they have different gearboxes.

[NX-687]

Thanks for the Reply
My next question is why did my input shaft bearing get noisy at 9,000 KMS

I want to find out exactly why this happened

thanks for any help

[NX-687]

Update
Im really happy with it , it goes everywhere and does everything, and for the price you can put up with small things that come along , I see them all over the place there must be thousands on the roads here

[08ESE]

my jazz has done it from new, got really bad, got box fixed for $900 is a lot better, but still does it ( not as bad ). i now have 145000 kms on it, and i just put up with it.

[NX-687]

08

Im guessing your dealer did not fix it as you paid for it , thanks for the info , I will talk to some Honda mechanics if I can find any that may give me some clues , Im tending towards low gearbox oil as an associate had very low oil in his new car

also the bearing manufacturers say that a very large proportion of bearings are ruined or have their life greatly reduced by poor assembly

EG,,Fitting the bearings into undersize bores that can be machined out of round,,,,,,,, dropping the bearing ,,, putting the bearing in by pressing on the inner race

Dirt and Swarf in the gearbox that is not picked up by the magnet in the gearbox box ,, eg , bronze from the shift forks and aluminium are not magnetic and so are just swirled around in the oil , getting between gears and bearings and causing early problems

[08ESE]

my car had very little kays on it ( aroudn 60 thousand if i remember corectly? ) when the box started getting Unbearingly noisy. but the car was out of warranty. i sent an email to honda about it, i got a reply saying "your email has been forwarded to the appropriate area" and never heard from honda again.

[NX-687]

08 In UK If I recall correct , people in that position were getting the box done for half price at the dealer as it was a known problem and Honda was doing it out to about 5 years old cars , and older depending on how you pushed them !!!!!!

In another post I see you punish your Jazz , yes it can take it,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the motor is identical to the 95 HP outboard honda marine engine which just sits on the back of boats and runs at full song all day , same block and pistons
If my box gets noisy in 20,000 I will get it rebuilt by experts I am not too worried , its a good car , I would like to know why this input bearing on the gearbox gets noisy on a good number of Jazzes worldwide , there will be a reason , and it will be hard to find out , but I would like to know , as for the Jazz engine , what a spectacular and special piece that is,,,,,,, its just good sitting behind it