How much did you paid for your 2009/2010 Accord Euro

[Meemoo]

Thinking to get a standard 2010 euro, dealer quoted me for 37000 drive away before negotiate :confused:
What sort of price did you all pay yourselves.

[antony]

Is that for automatic or manual,with metallic or flat paint ?

The current retail price in Melbourne at the moment is $40000 for a standard automatic with metallic.

Of course that price is then negotiated.

I know,I bought one ,and absorlutely love it.Chose Buran Silver.

[Meemoo]

Its an auto, pearl white.

[buddah51au]

37K sounds quite a reasonable price, you may be able to negotiate on that but I don't think you will do too much better. I would be more inclined to get them to throw in some accessories free of charge like floor mats, painted mud flaps etc. you can't go wrong with pearl white.

[antony]

I agree with buddah51 au,I got the floor mats and 2 awesome Silver Honda keyrings thrown into the deal...

[MikesVtec]

I agree with buddah51 au,I got the floor mats and 2 awesome Silver Honda keyrings thrown into the deal...

Oh wth! I only got a free Honda enviro bag =(

[SPQR]

The current retail price in Melbourne at the moment is $40000 for a standard automatic with metallic.

$39,909 drive away for Melbourne according to the Honda website. $37,549 for the standard manual with metallic. But Melbourne has the lowest pricest listed in the Honda website.

[toniche]

on carsales, brandnew Cu2 with is $37000 auto driveaway. if you are in sydney looking at Rick demelian and Larke hoskin they still provide extended warranty until end of august. std euro shold be less than 37k after negotiation
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/results.aspx?YearFromShort=1713&Qpb=true&MileageTo=746&keywords=type%20r&SearchAction=N&N=1216%201247%201282%201252%204294965322%204294965 100%201713%20746%20898&sid=125B8730F092&Nne=15&Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32|1 ||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0

[aussiebuddha]

on carsales, brandnew Cu2 with is $37000 auto driveaway. if you are in sydney looking at Rick demelian and Larke hoskin they still provide extended warranty until end of august. std euro shold be less than 37k after negotiation
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/results.aspx?YearFromShort=1713&Qpb=true&MileageTo=746&keywords=type%20r&SearchAction=N&N=1216%201247%201282%201252%204294965322%204294965 100%201713%20746%20898&sid=125B8730F092&Nne=15&Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32|1 ||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0

CU2 luxury? couldnt find it anywhere.
Best i could get was 34K for an auto base model with a bluetooth kit installed after hours of negotiating with several dealers.
and that was back at the end of the financial year.

[euroRwannabe]

got mine 2 months ago,
here's the story,
39,990 drive away,
parent's negotiated to the salesman saying it was for my first car,
they asked for 35,000
salesman asked manager,
manager said best price they could do was 36,100 with darkest legal tinted windows and paint protection.
10 year warranty, and 2 years free servicing and road-side assistance.

pretty good deal i my opinion, but i'm an inexperienced buyer, i'm only 18, and this is my first car, it's only done 3084KM's in the past 2 months, and not a scratch :]

[Kwangstuhhh]

Got mine in March 2010, paid $36,500 Pearl White Auto drive away. The only thing I got was floor mats =( I know I could've bargained more. About 2 months later they had a 4 day sale for $34,500 drive away.

This is also my first car...been 'hit n run' twice into my rear at car parks =(.

As for your 37000 quote I'm pretty sure you and drop it down to 35000 with some extras.

Hope this helps.

[Cynosure]

I'm so jealous, I want a cu2. T.T damn my luxury euro !

[Meemoo]

Thanks guys, I finally bought one for 34000 with tint and mats, I was so close to get a Mazda 6, but dont want to see those orange dash for another few years :)

[Type R Positive]

Holy shit thats a great deal! Still auto? I would have expected 35-36.....WELL DONE!

[Meemoo]

Yeah Auto pearl white :) driving like a grandpa atm, cant wait for it to hit 1000km

[MikesVtec]

Wow grats awesome deal! Life must be good atm for you. Was for me on the first coupla weeks of ownership anyway lol.

[Kwangstuhhh]

I'm so jealous, I want a cu2. T.T damn my luxury euro !

What's wrong with the luxury?!...I was regretting not getting one for a few months haha. It was only about 40-42k drive away :(

edit: or are you talking about a CL9 lol >_>

[aussiebuddha]

isn't luxury the same as CU2?

[Type R Positive]

isn't luxury the same as CU2?
CU2 is the latest model, from 08-current.
CL9 is the previous model, from 03-08.
Both have base and lux models!

[antony]

Thanks guys, I finally bought one for 34000 with tint and mats, I was so close to get a Mazda 6, but dont want to see those orange dash for another few years :)

Congratulations,thats an awesome deal.
Is yours a MY2011 ???

Dealer must have been keen to move the stock...

So pleased you got this over the Mazda 6.

I drove a 6,but the Euro looked and felt so much better,like it was from the class above.

After I drove the Mazda,I deceided that the Honda was for me.......................................

[Kwangstuhhh]

Thanks guys, I finally bought one for 34000 with tint and mats, I was so close to get a Mazda 6, but dont want to see those orange dash for another few years :)

Congrats!!! 34k is an awesome deal! Honda > Mazda (the nicer interior and future costs are cheaper :P) Service with Honda is cheaper with Mazda (so I've heard) anyways haha

[praja6]

What's wrong with the luxury?!...I was regretting not getting one for a few months haha. It was only about 40-42k drive away :(

edit: or are you talking about a CL9 lol >_>

Its really personal choice.. For me, I don't regret at all for not getting luxuary, could have got lux auto CU2 with 5yrs warranty for 39k drive away when i was looking for the car. I was ended up buying base Jan 2010 built My10 silver model auto with honda rear sensor and 5yr warranty and deposited the extra 5k(Could have paid for the lux auto model) in as an addition to my term deposit and getting some extra intrest.

[Cynosure]

What's wrong with the luxury?!...I was regretting not getting one for a few months haha. It was only about 40-42k drive away :(

edit: or are you talking about a CL9 lol >_>

Lol CL9 man, I wish I had a cu2 because I love fat cars! I wouldve bought a 350z if I were allowed to drive turbo, unfortunately. Damn the nsw p plate laws!

[Kwangstuhhh]

Lol CL9 man, I wish I had a cu2 because I love fat cars! I wouldve bought a 350z if I were allowed to drive turbo, unfortunately. Damn the nsw p plate laws!

Ah haha, 350z aren't turbo are they? Pretty sure they're just V6 3.5L...though they're like 200+ kw...where in QLD it's illegal for p platers too = =...not just NSW buddy! :P

[Type R Positive]

Lol CL9 man, I wish I had a cu2 because I love fat cars! I wouldve bought a 350z if I were allowed to drive turbo, unfortunately. Damn the nsw p plate laws!
LOL @ 350Z turbo! :)

[boleh]

350Z turbo? Are you sure it isn't 350Z rotary?

[Type R Positive]

350Z turbo? Are you sure it isn't 350Z rotary?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdrpwrN9daM

[praja6]

Guys, i am not advertising anything. Just if anyone lives in adelaide and looking for base model euro auto, please see this add in car sales website. This guy seems won this car in a competition or something and advertised to sell it for 33k. brand new with only 30kilometers on the clock...

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=9232147&YearFromShort=1652&__Qpb=true&Cr=3&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&__N=1216%201282%204294965322%204294965100%20%20165 2&SearchAction=N&silo=1011&__No=45&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=84&__sid=12ACA5703B08

[Meemoo]

Guys, i am not advertising anything. Just if anyone lives in adelaide and looking for base model euro auto, please see this add in car sales website. This guy seems won this car in a competition or something and advertised to sell it for 33k. brand new with only 30kilometers on the clock...

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=9232147&YearFromShort=1652&__Qpb=true&Cr=3&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&__N=1216%201282%204294965322%204294965100%20%20165 2&SearchAction=N&silo=1011&__No=45&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=84&__sid=12ACA5703B08

Brief Comments Brand new vehicle, unwanted prize.


LUCKY BASTARD!!! lol

[Happyroach]

$34,500 drive way sydney i think

[natnat]

$45800 for Luxury Sat Nav incl 5 yrs wty + roadside assist, boot tray, mats, rear bumper boot lip protector and oem lock nuts. but, i was not careful enough to insist on a newer stock, hence was allocated a january 2010 built one, feb10 compliance plated. given that it's a Honda, a stock that is more than 3 mths old is OLD stock.

[praja6]

$45800 for Luxury Sat Nav incl 5 yrs wty + roadside assist, boot tray, mats, rear bumper boot lip protector and oem lock nuts. but, i was not careful enough to insist on a newer stock, hence was allocated a january 2010 built one, feb10 compliance plated. given that it's a Honda, a stock that is more than 3 mths old is OLD stock.

DId you check with other honda dealers before signed the contract with rick? Other dealers may have new stock. Just remember Jan 2010 built is classified as My10 and new releases after June is My11. Technically there is no difference except when you try to sell the car.

[praja6]

Its out of the topic.. Is anyone here in this forum owner of the silver euro Cu2 BNW 32D.... Today i seen it and the driver seems not driving it smooth, ..THe car seems polished and shiny..

[eurodriver]

Just bought a silver MY11 Honda Accord Euro Std Auto with 5 yr Warranty & 5 yr Premium Roadside for $33500 driveaway here in Vic.

[antony]

Just bought a silver MY11 Honda Accord Euro Std Auto with 5 yr Warranty & 5 yr Premium Roadside for $33500 driveaway here in Vic.
Thats very cheap...

Which dealership did you buy it from ???

I have the identical car,with the mats and 2 Silver Honda keyrings.

What car did you have before,and which others did you consider ???

[Meemoo]

Guys, i am not advertising anything. Just if anyone lives in adelaide and looking for base model euro auto, please see this add in car sales website. This guy seems won this car in a competition or something and advertised to sell it for 33k. brand new with only 30kilometers on the clock...

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=9232147&YearFromShort=1652&__Qpb=true&Cr=3&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&__N=1216%201282%204294965322%204294965100%20%20165 2&SearchAction=N&silo=1011&__No=45&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=84&__sid=12ACA5703B08

He won the car from subscribing wheels, his photo is on page 22 :)

[praja6]

Wow Meemooo Meemoo you are like an FBI..fantastic, he is really lucky guy mate won something. I never won anything more than $1000 worth. Recent thing i won was the 32inch panasonic LCD tv in Jan 2010 which worth RRP 999 something...

[praja6]

Holy shit thats a great deal! Still auto? I would have expected 35-36.....WELL DONE!

You paid more for your Cueo CU2 rite? Put it this way in another 1 or 2yrs time who knows dealers may sell it for even 30k driveaway for base model auto..

[jey16]

$34,600......MY11, auto, Floor Mats, Rear Sensors & Fog Lights. Add $800 for the extended warranty

Black :D

[ra95625]

36,500 - MY11 Auto black

Floor mats
Rear Sensors
Fog lights
Tint

Appearance pack
-paint, vinyl, seat protection

From - Honda Hornsby
Salesman - Scott Callaghan

Finance agent - Attoussa

[bramtram]

Paid 35,000 - MY11 Auto Silver

Floor mats + Rear Sensors + $250 shopping voucher + 5years warranty/road assist + 10% off dealership service (should've bargained more had I read this forum before jumping it...oh well - live and learn)

[antony]

BEAMTRAM,I have got the identical car to you.

We should do a photo shoot.

Buran Silver is the best colour IMHO.

I also got the glass number plarte covers,and 2 Silver Honda keyrings.

When do you take delivery of your car ???

I have had mine for 5 months now...and have done 6000 kilometers.

[bramtram]

Taking delivery this Sat :)

[antony]

Taking delivery this Sat :)

Let me know what your number plate initials are,I will look out for you...

Mine are XSM...

[bramtram]

Let me know what your number plate initials are,I will look out for you...

Mine are XSM...

Oh no !!! People we have a stalker in out midsts :p:p:p:p:D:D:D

LMAO :D

[Meemoo]

Grats Bramtram,enjoy your ride :)

[TMW]

Its really personal choice.. For me, I don't regret at all for not getting luxuary, could have got lux auto CU2 with 5yrs warranty for 39k drive away when i was looking for the car. I was ended up buying base Jan 2010 built My10 silver model auto with honda rear sensor and 5yr warranty and deposited the extra 5k(Could have paid for the lux auto model) in as an addition to my term deposit and getting some extra intrest.

Hi praja6, i am newcomer to this forum and reason to register here is to get some info on the price of lux auto. Which dealer you got the price of 39K for above? Btw, I am in Sydney too.
Thanks in advance

[TurBIce]

MY10 white auto Luxury + tint + Mat

$41500

[praja6]

Hi praja6, i am newcomer to this forum and reason to register here is to get some info on the price of lux auto. Which dealer you got the price of 39K for above? Btw, I am in Sydney too.
Thanks in advance

Sorry for the confusion... the 39k D/A i mentioned could have got lux auto was the demo model with 3k on the clock. Brand new was best they quoted 41800 with 5yr warranty.. Then only i bought the brand new base model auto with 5yr warranty and rear park sensors...

[TMW]

Thanks Raja for your explanation.
BTW, does anyone bought the Euro with Fleet Discount rate? Will there be any cheaper if go through Fleet Discount?
Thanks.
TMW

[Euro-W000p5]

Hey guys first post here. I am looking at purchasing a Euro Luxury MY11 Auto. Honda's website lists $43990 as RRP Driveaway. I came across this article earlier in the week however, http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/honda-slashes-prices-20101105-17gzp.html

Honda website has still not updated with this new pricing. Should be able to get the Luxury with some extras for sub 40k now. What do you guys think??

[praja6]

Hey guys first post here. I am looking at purchasing a Euro Luxury MY11 Auto. Honda's website lists $43990 as RRP Driveaway. I came across this article earlier in the week however, http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/honda-slashes-prices-20101105-17gzp.html

Honda website has still not updated with this new pricing. Should be able to get the Luxury with some extras for sub 40k now. What do you guys think??

The listed price for lux auto $41,290 is not included onroad and dealer delivery, which normally cost an extra 4000-4500.. so RRP drive away price for euro lux would be around 45290 and metallic paint extra 500.... The drive away price for lux auto was 48k, now would be around 46k with metallic paint..

I think few people in this forum got the lux auto for 41-41500 with few accessories... I am sure you can get it around same price or close to nowadays as well..

[antony]

In my area,the drive away special on a MY11 Euro lux auto is $44465...which I think is a very good price.

Not sure how negotiable that is though ???

[TMW]

Do I need to buy the paint and leather protection kit from the dealer.
Do I need to get aftermarket people to do the job? What kind of car wash kit to wash the car?
Let say the car is black....

[mcluzar]

hey mate, last time i went to Larke Hoskins Honda, asked them for a deal on the Euro Lux, they offered me $42.5k for the Luxury trim...

Hope this would help.

Cheers

[TMW]

Now is 40K.

[ozgordon]

Looking at a MY11 Euro Luxury with Sat Nav, floor mats and dark tint for $44500 on road. What does everyone think?

[antony]

Looking at a MY11 Euro Luxury with Sat Nav, floor mats and dark tint for $44500 on road. What does everyone think?

That sounds like a great deal to me...They are ON SPECIAL for $ 47500 drive away in Victoria,including metallic/Pearl paint.

[praja6]

Looking at a MY11 Euro Luxury with Sat Nav, floor mats and dark tint for $44500 on road. What does everyone think?

Is this the price you got after negotiated or the dealer just give you. Sounds its a good price 3k off the special driveaway price...

Shoparound to another dealer and see what price you can get. I don't think they have much margin in it.

[ozgordon]

Is this the price you got after negotiated or the dealer just give you. Sounds its a good price 3k off the special driveaway price...

Shoparound to another dealer and see what price you can get. I don't think they have much margin in it.

No, I screwed them down a fair bit. I noticed on Carpoint.com.au, that there are a few Euro Lux Nav "demos",with only about 100km on clock for around $44K, so I new I could get close to this figure.

[antony]

No, I screwed them down a fair bit. I noticed on Carpoint.com.au, that there are a few Euro Lux Nav "demos",with only about 100km on clock for around $44K, so I new I could get close to this figure.

So are you going to GO FOR IT ???

Honda had a bad January sales wise,and are now 10th place on the charts,so will be eager to DO DEALS this month.

[ozgordon]

Yes, Im buying another Euro. I love my 2007 manual Lux so much, that Im keeping it, selling my 2006 Mazda 6 and buying the new Euro.

[TurBIce]

yea, i got mine for $41000 DA with tint n matts
euro lux white

[Fredoops]

Use a car broker.... Saves you from haggling.

PS: sales are down because Mid-life facelift is around the corner.....

[antony]

Yes, Im buying another Euro. I love my 2007 manual Lux so much, that Im keeping it, selling my 2006 Mazda 6 and buying the new Euro.

Nice.I have bought 2 of the Mazda 6s closest competitors,being a VW Jetta and Honda Euro,but have never been overly excited by the Mazda.Although I do know that its obviously also a very good car.

[furythree]

yea, i got mine for $41000 DA with tint n matts
euro lux white

omg what 41k for lux, from where?

i paid 43k for mine but got tint matts spoiler 5 yr warranty free rego and ctp i think thats all

[antony]

omg what 41k for lux, from where?

i paid 43k for mine but got tint matts spoiler 5 yr warranty free rego and ctp i think thats all

I think you also got a great deal,people just have to shop around a bit.Everyone is dealing,but Honda are doing great deals across the entire range.

[praja6]

omg what 41k for lux, from where?

i paid 43k for mine but got tint matts spoiler 5 yr warranty free rego and ctp i think thats all

You paid nearly 15months ago rite 43k? price is reduced by Honda nearly 1500 compare with when you purchased.. Who knows in anotehr year Honda might increase the price again...

[Fredoops]

Anyone brought a Euro Luxury Navi?

It cost 46k.... A top of the line Skoda Superb only cost $3000 more, and it's like 2 sizes larger.


It doesnt make sense that a base model can be sold for 33k while the top of the time is 46k, thats like 13k... for what?

[praja6]

Well said, mainly you are paying for leather seats, sunroof, 18inch alloy, HID auto lights, auto wipers, Front sensors, headlight washer, and mainly inbuilt GPS navigation and rear view camera.. I think you can get it for 44k driveaway for lux navi..

When i bought my Cu2, i could not justify extra 6500 for lux auto and ended up buying base auto, really happy with it.

[antony]

The base Euro is on special for $34000 at the moment,but also remember that is for a manual,and the vast majority of Euros are automatic.

The base auto is on special drive away for $36300,which represents brilliant value for money,as you dont get the sunroof/leather,but everything else is pure Euro.

[HondaLink]

So are you going to GO FOR IT ???

Honda had a bad January sales wise,and are now 10th place on the charts,so will be eager to DO DEALS this month.

Hi I am new and I am going to buy a Euro Nav Auto this weekend. Could anyone direct me where I should go? I am in Sydney.

From the thread... do you think $42K is possible or should I try $41K?

[Fredoops]

The base Euro is on special for $34000 at the moment,but also remember that is for a manual,and the vast majority of Euros are automatic.

The base auto is on special drive away for $36300,which represents brilliant value for money,as you don't get the sunroof/leather,but everything else is pure Euro.

Which is exactly my point, the Euro suffers from an same case of narrow price elasticity as the Acura TSX, the base model, prices at low-to-mid-$30k is very good value for money, but the higher spec's, at mid-$40k... isn't. Since it's in competition with the actual European marques.

I currently own a CL9, I test Driven the following cars recently:
Alfa 159 (1.4ltr twin charged thingy)
Skoda Superb 1.8L TSI 7spd DSG
Citroen C5 2.0 HDI
Accord Euro CU2 Lux (was looking at Navi)

The Accord feels like a Toyota next to this bunch. Disregarding the looks of the cars, the Euro's K24 is essentially 10 yr old technology, funnily enough, Japanese cars were renowned for their low fuel consumption... well the CU2 is the most (un)economical of this bunch, also emits the most Co2 (BTW on the CU2 I tested the engine still "Ping"s)

[start rant]
I dunno what Honda was doing for the last 5 years, VW is already on their 2nd Generation of TSI engines and DSG gearboxes. Fiat group has their own twin charged engines and DSG boxes, even Ford has DSG's now.

Honda is still one of the most joyous handling wise (Alfa 159 takes crown on that... SOOOOO good... even if i cant drive manual for S***). But seriously, what was Honda doing for the last 5 years? For the R&D money they blown on that stupid flop of a "Legend" and that "SH-AWD" (SH for "Super-Handling"...) they would've had their own range of high efficiency small displacement engines and Dual-clutch gearboxes.

Are the people who gave us the glorious VTEC now too busy charging existing owners $200 for door actuators than doing some R&D?

A Skoda Superb 1.8 TSI (118KW) can outrun a Euro on a straight line... While drinking 30% less petrol on the Urban Cycle (9.6L/100km vs. 12.3L/100km) WHILE being a full size car?

Time really had moved on... At least for the $40k plus market.
[/end rant]

[praja6]

Hi I am new and I am going to buy a Euro Nav Auto this weekend. Could anyone direct me where I should go? I am in Sydney.

From the thread... do you think $42K is possible or should I try $41K?

Have you been to any dealers got quote for lux nav euro? Not sure the price is possible or not unless you go to few dealers and try your best.... For my knowledge someone here in this forum got 44500 for EUro lux navi model..

GOod luck

[Fredoops]

Have you been to any dealers got quote for lux nav euro? Not sure the price is possible or not unless you go to few dealers and try your best.... For my knowledge someone here in this forum got 44500 for EUro lux navi model..

GOod luck
Yes you can, theres AT LEAST a $10% margin from the dealers (I suspect more for Japanese brands).
$44,465 Driveway is the RRP for Euro Auto Lux with Metalic Paint.

Haggle for $40k. Dont pay anymore, because a facelift is coming.

[praja6]

As per honda special in website, for NSW the luxuary auto is 44500, possible to get close to 40 or 41k drive away i think and lux navigation is 47500 driveaway, possible close to 43 or 44k driveaway i believe. I am sure dealesr can throw accessories even if they can't reduce price much..

[Fredoops]

As per honda special in website, for NSW the luxuary auto is 44500, possible to get close to 40 or 41k drive away i think and lux navigation is 47500 driveaway, possible close to 43 or 44k driveaway i believe. I am sure dealesr can throw accessories even if they can't reduce price much..
Keep haggling.... SHOW THEM NO MERCY!

They'll screw you down the road with parts and services regardless whether you are nice or not.
And the midlife update means your Honda's resale will take a nosedive cause you are still the pre-facelift.

[HondaLink]

Keep haggling.... SHOW THEM NO MERCY!

They'll screw you down the road with parts and services regardless whether you are nice or not.
And the midlife update means your Honda's resale will take a nosedive cause you are still the pre-facelift.

Thanks guys. I will let you guys know how I go this weekend.

What is your best haggling "strategy"?

start with low price, stay cool, ready to wake away when they reach what you are willing to pay...?

[Fredoops]

Thanks guys. I will let you guys know how I go this weekend.

What is your best haggling "strategy"?

start with low price, stay cool, ready to wake away when they reach what you are willing to pay...?
Tell them 30. walk away if they say "cant do better than 41" or some other BS like that.
then go to another dealer... tell them you're willing to put deposit down for 39. Today.

PS: dont use www.discountnewcars.com.au it's not a car broking service. it's merely a dealer advertisement platform.

[praja6]

Hondalink,

Another advise, just politely walk away if the dealer not ready to do the price you want..

Makesure you list the accessories you wanted before start negotiating. After you done deal/sign the contract and decided to go with any accessories, they will try to give you full price for accessories.

Otehr thing is makesure you stay firm when they try to convince you to get paint protection. They try to tell you rust underguard protection. Just when i try to inquire about surface rust on exhaust pipe(i found out the surface rust after 6months of usage is normal and rust was not there at all when i bought my car, as before i picked the car, i look underneeth of the car carefully as well), service guy at my dealer told me the car underneeth already comes with rust protection, except exhust pipe.
I wonder why customer service people at dealership asking 1000+ for rust underguard protection if the car underneeth is already been protected with rust protection...

GOod luck

[TMW]

My family member and I bought 2 Euros in end 2010.

33K for Std Euro (Black) with Tint, Mat, Bluetooth & luggage tray in Dec 2010.
40.5K for Lux Euro (Black) with Tint, Mat & Bluetooth in Nov 2010.

So figure out what price you want to pay in Jan/Feb Sales.... :)

Of course, the duration of haggling and waiting for answer from dealer took around 1 week+ to get it done.

Always walk away at first visit with all the accessories you want in the quote and compare with other dealers.

That was my experiences.

Good Luck!

[RedDevil]

I just bought an Auto Euro base model for $35,000 with Leather Seat upgrade, Tint, Mat and Rear Parking Sensor. Does this sound decent? Delivery is within next 2 weeks.

[boleh]

I dunno what Honda was doing for the last 5 years, VW is already on their 2nd Generation of TSI engines and DSG gearboxes. Fiat group has their own twin charged engines and DSG boxes, even Ford has DSG's now.

Honda is still one of the most joyous handling wise (Alfa 159 takes crown on that... SOOOOO good... even if i cant drive manual for S***). But seriously, what was Honda doing for the last 5 years? For the R&D money they blown on that stupid flop of a "Legend" and that "SH-AWD" (SH for "Super-Handling"...) they would've had their own range of high efficiency small displacement engines and Dual-clutch gearboxes.

Are the people who gave us the glorious VTEC now too busy charging existing owners $200 for door actuators than doing some R&D?

A Skoda Superb 1.8 TSI (118KW) can outrun a Euro on a straight line... While drinking 30% less petrol on the Urban Cycle (9.6L/100km vs. 12.3L/100km) WHILE being a full size car?

Time really had moved on... At least for the $40k plus market.
[/end rant]

The K24 is fine but the 5-speed autobox is ancient.

The car is heavy, and bigger than CL9 on exterior dimensions. But its still the same cramp interior.

More power than the CL9 but slower.

On the outside, it's very subjective if it looks better than CL9. The changes look deliberate and whether they contribute to a better look is arguable.

The only improvement that I can agree is CU2 has better interior. The dash looks great.

No, I won't be looking at the CU2 to replace my CL9 when the time comes

[antony]

I just bought an Auto Euro base model for $35,000 with Leather Seat upgrade, Tint, Mat and Rear Parking Sensor. Does this sound decent? Delivery is within next 2 weeks.

Is this for an automatic or manual,and have you chosen a Metallic colour ?

Either way ,its a BRILLIANT deal.

Is it a MY10 or MY11 ???

[CU2 Euro 09]

The K24 is fine but the 5-speed autobox is ancient.

The car is heavy, and bigger than CL9 on exterior dimensions. But its still the same cramp interior.

More power than the CL9 but slower.

On the outside, it's very subjective if it looks better than CL9. The changes look deliberate and whether they contribute to a better look is arguable.

The only improvement that I can agree is CU2 has better interior. The dash looks great.

No, I won't be looking at the CU2 to replace my CL9 when the time comes

IMO the old CL9 does look narrow, underweight and tall next to the CU2. Sorry for hijacking the thread but talk of Skoda deserves the credit.

[RedDevil]

Is this for an automatic or manual,and have you chosen a Metallic colour ?

Either way ,its a BRILLIANT deal.

Is it a MY10 or MY11 ???

It is an automatic. I did not choose a metallic colour. The car is a MY11 model, compliance plate Jan 11 as I was told.

[antony]

It is an automatic. I did not choose a metallic colour. The car is a MY11 model, compliance plate Jan 11 as I was told.

Very nice,so you are getting a Red one then ???

[azn_k3nt]

HELP PLEASE!!! =)

currently in the market looking for a 2010 honda accord euro (base model) + auto + volcano grey + anything free accessories...wondering what kind of price margin, i'll need to be looking at? :)

Dealers info as well :)

[antony]

Honda are having a special on the Euros,where the base model ,with automaric is $36290 drive away,with free automatic.
Acessories depend on how generous the dealer is feeling,but I got 2 Silver Honda keyrings,and the Euro mats.

A big selling point is that they are giving away a 5 year warranty,and 5 year premium roadside assistance.

To me,this all added up to brilliant value for money,on a brilliant car.

I chose Buran Silver,and am happy with my choice.

I added reverse sensors at my own cost.

Good luck with your shopping.

I am in Melbourne,and dealt with very competitive dealers.

[azn_k3nt]

Special on euros at 36,290 doesn't seem all that special when their website is slightly higher =/ what have been some of the lowest prices people have push this model down too?

Must be more then one owner of this model since I've seen some around.

[enaran]

Just picked up an Accord Euro Luxury MY11
With Bluetooth
Tow bar
Floor mats
Boot liner
$42,000

Thanks to this forum I knew what was a good deal.
I think I did alright..

[antony]

Just picked up an Accord Euro Luxury MY11
With Bluetooth
Tow bar
Floor mats
Boot liner
$42,000

Thanks to this forum I knew what was a good deal.
I think I did alright..

Is it automatic or manual,and which colour did you choose ???

GREAT choice,brilliant car.

[enaran]

Is it automatic or manual,and which colour did you choose ???

GREAT choice,brilliant car.

Volcano Grey, Automatic

[ozgordon]

Looking at a MY11 Euro Luxury with Sat Nav, floor mats and dark tint for $44500 on road. What does everyone think?

Picked up my new Euro Lux Navi yesterday......SUPERB!!!! LOVE IT. So much nicer inside than the previous generation Euro Lux.

Ended up paying $44500, with floor mats, tint and colour coded mud flaps all round. Got it in Black. MY11

Very Very Happy with it:)

[azn_k3nt]

SIGHSSSSSSSSSSSSS fml

Went with bro and mum to honda astoria dealer to get the manager to bring the honda accord euro (base model), volcano grey, auto DOWN to $34k + tint and floor mats....mum had something going through her mind and turned down the offer.

So the questions to you guys was $34k v.grey, auto, tint and floor mats, worth the price? or can we do better?

[antony]

You will not get a better deal.

I bought mine from them,and they had the best deal in Victoria.
Mine is MY11,Automatic,Buran Silver,floor mats and 2 Silver keyrings,but NO tint.

Paid $34500,with 5 year warranty and roadside assist.

I offered them $34000,but they would not accept that,I drove home,and realised what a brilliant deal it was,so went straight back,and did the deal.

I have since added reverse sensors,and have NOT regretted my purchase at all.

[Fredoops]

You will not get a better deal.

I bought mine from them,and they had the best deal in Victoria.
Mine is MY11,Automatic,Buran Silver,floor mats and 2 Silver keyrings,but NO tint.

Paid $34500,with 5 year warranty and roadside assist.

I offered them $34000,but they would not accept that,I drove home,and realised what a brilliant deal it was,so went straight back,and did the deal.

I have since added reverse sensors,and have NOT regretted my purchase at all.

Dunno about melbourne, but you can get to $34k if you are in sydney. Just shop around,
Hardly any dealer will turn it down if you walk to them with the checkbook realy for deposit if they agree the price.

Beisdes sometimes dealer will sell cars for under the dealer price to drive up their volume so they can qualify for kickbacks from the manufacturer.
- car dealers are a bit like Apply resellers really, they get a RRP with a fixed margin then they get a volume based kickback.

[antony]

My car is 9 months old,but in this period,Honda sales figures have fallen,and their peicing has become more aggressive.

$34000 seems to be the best price now foe Accoed Euro auro with metallic.
Identical price to advertised special on Mazda 6 sedan equivelant.

I know which one I would rather have though...lol.

HONDA ANYDAY.

[tbim]

i bought my 2011 euro luxury with 20% tint, 5yr warranty(it turned out that last 2 years are dealer warranty), 3 yr road assistance at $42800. It seems to be cheaper now.

[Fredoops]

i bought my 2011 euro luxury with 20% tint, 5yr warranty(it turned out that last 2 years are dealer warranty), 3 yr road assistance at $42800. It seems to be cheaper now.
Honda has been slow to react to the following:
1. rising Aussie dollar
2. Rise of the euros

Now they have to react. Since they don't have the product lineup to counter the euros right now. They have to play the price war.

[praja6]

Honda got attitude buy it or not.. They don't seems reduce much for the Euro as they always says they get limited stock from japan and its a demand..

However if you buy a thai built big accord seems like can get a good bargain. someone in this forum mentioned he got VTI accord brand new for 27k driveaway...

[WarrenM]

I just bought a 2nd hand Silver Euro Luxury Auto 2009 model with Modulo sports trim kit (sides, front and back bumper, front grille, duckbill spoiler) and internal Elegance kit (sports steering wheel, sports pedals, metal trim, etc) with half a year rego and 22,000km on the clock. Showroom condition. It had $38990 on the windscreen which was designed to be "squeezed" to $37000. After another two hours of me not giving them a decision, they eventually gave me $4000 more for my trade than it was actually worth, in order to finally close the deal. I still have to pay $1100 in rego transfer, so I guess it cost me about 34K on the road, which I would class as excellent value, but maybe the 2nd-hand deals are there to be had at the moment. I pick up the car tomorrow.

Were tinted windows standard on the 2009 Euro Luxury or was that an extra that was added to mine?

Regards, Warren in Sydney.

[Fredoops]

Honda got attitude buy it or not.. They don't seems reduce much for the Euro as they always says they get limited stock from japan and its a demand..

However if you buy a thai built big accord seems like can get a good bargain. someone in this forum mentioned he got VTI accord brand new for 27k driveaway...

Honda dealers got attitude... Tell them to kiss your a$$. There's plenty of "water" in their price.

[antony]

Warren,I think you have done well on a fantastic car.

All the windows are very slightly tinted,with the top of the windscreen Dark blue.

As Raja says,all Euros worldwide are made in 1 plant in Japan,which runs at full capacity,besides those made in China for thar market only.

So I suppose Honda might be a bit arrogant...

[WarrenM]

I guess that means that they have added tint since these were tinted to about 15%, which is how I like them.

[praja6]

Honda dealers got attitude... Tell them to kiss your a$$. There's plenty of "water" in their price.

Well we all keep buying Honda whether they got an attitude or not rite? May be the honda dealers will know we will back to them and buy it regardless of their attitude.. Did you tell you guys, when i was shopping for my car last year end of March, i asked for 34k with genuine rear sensors, matt and 5yr warranty.. The salesguy got an attitude and asked me, "i will give you 34k, can you give me the car for 34k". I just walked away....

[Fredoops]

Warren,I think you have done well on a fantastic car.

All the windows are very slightly tinted,with the top of the windscreen Dark blue.

As Raja says,all Euros worldwide are made in 1 plant in Japan,which runs at full capacity,besides those made in China for thar market only.

So I suppose Honda might be a bit arrogant...
As far as I know all the Cu2's except the Acura tax (which is Canadian)
Is made in Sayma, Japan (the Chinese plant is assembly only as far as I know)... But it's not a big seller in Europe...

Rest of the Honda range are all Thai as far as I know, only a matter of time before we get Thai made euros......

Here's are some interesting, unrelated facts:
*most hondas forsale in Australia is made in thailand, not japan.
* Nissan Xtrail is made in Korea along side the Renault Koleos.
* Most Volvos you buy are Belgian made, next to the ford factory
* Previous generation vw polo sedan was made in shanghai, china.
* BMW x5 is made in america
* Petrol engine in a Mini is french PSA engine (Aka Citeron/Peugeot)
* VW new beetle is mexican
* Pakistan makes Honda accords

[boleh]

Doubt the Accord Euro is in such big demand... Its just what the salesmen would like you to think of course. The current shape is already 3 yrs on the road

If you dont mind a 2010 build MY11-compliant model (brand new).. the manual goes as low as $32,888 driveaway, and automatic $33,690 driveaway as advertised here (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/results.aspx?Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal%7C0%7C%7CpC ar_RankSort_Int32%7C1%7C%7CpCar_Make_String%7C0%7C %7CpCar_Model_String%7C0&N=1216%201246%204294965322%204294965100&tabID=304727&keywords=&tsrc=allcarhome&Nne=15)

[Fredoops]

Just be careful if you are to buy a euro now... FACELIFT is coming in like 3-4 mth so your euro's 3 yr resale will take a dive because of it...

Don't be surprised if Honda starts to push their existing stock at $31k driveaway

The auto tranny of new euros should be better than the pre 2011 stock. since it now runs on a new ATF fluid. The ATF-dw... A synthetic based fluid to counter common issues with dino ATF-z1 (more talent to stress and most importantly... More tolerant to tranny heat)

[praja6]

I don't know.. I don't think the facelift model will influence much on resale value of the existing one, compare with next generation one... When honda release 3rd Gen accord Euro, possibly in anotehr 2years time, yes i would say it would affect the current gen resale value. I don't know how many of you guys bought the CL9 for good bargain just prior to honda released the Cu2 in Jun 08..

This is just my view anyway... Another example subaru was selling the gen 4 liberty in Jan-March 09 with free leather seats and loads of feathers for 32k driveaway for auto as the Gen 5 liberty was released in sept 09..

[antony]

Fredoops,all CU2 models,including the Acura TSX models,are built in Japan.

Honda have a Chineese assembly plant,which builds about 2500 Euros a month since late 2009.

They are called SPIRIORS in that market,and are the flagship of the range.

The facelift is very minor,3rd generation Euro due mid 2013.

[ascend]

The mid cycle facelifted version is already available in Japan. Goto to Honda Japan website and click on Accord for pics.

[antony]

The facelift is allready in the US markets,and is being launched in Europe at the Geneva auto show this week.

We,as well as New Zealand and South Africa cannot be too far behind ???

[praja6]

Just noticed today in honda website, honda reduced the driveaway price for Euro all ranges by $1000. Now the base auto driveaway price is 35290... Not sure how much dealers can reduce much from this special price. THe standard accord price still remains same..

http://euro.honda.com.au/range-pricing.aspx

[Fredoops]

Just noticed today in honda website, honda reduced the driveaway price for Euro all ranges by $1000. Now the base auto driveaway price is 35290... Not sure how much dealers can reduce much from this special price. THe standard accord price still remains same..

http://euro.honda.com.au/range-pricing.aspx

Considering that both Accord Euro and Acura TSX come out of the same factory in Japan Lets throw some numbers around... just to make things interesting.

1. The Accord Euro Lux Specs are pretty much the same as the base model Acura TSX (leatherseat sunroof, all the jazz)
2. The come out of same factory in Japan. product cost difference should be minimal.
3. Tariff: USA, 2.5% AUSTRALIA 5% (DECREASED FROM 10% LAST YEAR, kudos to Rudd)

On-road costs aside (which in USA is like $500 bucks... in total, compared to $3000 here...)
Distance between Aus to Japan and US to Japan is pretyt much the same, due to volume, it's probably cheaper to ship to USA than here...

Lets ignore the onroad costs and just focus on the listed car price (average on road cost for car in USA is $500 odd... compared to $2-3000 here)
Listed RRP base price of Acura TSX Auto: $29,610 USD ( which is $29102 AUD , Exchange rate: $1USD=$0.98287AUD)
Listed RRP base price of Euro Lux Auto: $41,290 AUD (which is $42,009 USD, using same exchange rate as above)

Now adjust the Acura TSX price to show how much it would cost if USA has the same Tariff rate as Australia (5% instead of 2.5%)
$29,610 USD * 1.025 = $30,350 USD (which is $29,830 AUD, using same exchange rate as above)

SO after adjusting the Tariff. A Euro Lux Auto is $41,290 AUD, a Acura TSX Auto is $29,830 AUD, thats a $11,460 difference!!

Even if you do count in the "specials" honda australia is givign out at the moment... which is $2,090 (source: discountnewcars.com.au)
It's still a $9000 difference before looking at onroad costs...

And dont give me that ADR compliance rubbish. it doesnt cost 10 grand car to comply with ADR, not a Honda, and not at this volume.
I'm telling you, Honda makes s*** load more money selling Euros here than USA or Europe for that matter.

[WarrenM]

I just bought a 2nd hand Silver Euro Luxury Auto 2009 model with Modulo sports trim kit (sides, front and back bumper, front grille, duckbill spoiler) and internal Elegance kit (sports steering wheel, sports pedals, metal trim, etc) with half a year rego and 22,000km on the clock. Showroom condition. It had $38990 on the windscreen which was designed to be "squeezed" to $37000. After another two hours of me not giving them a decision, they eventually gave me $4000 more for my trade than it was actually worth, in order to finally close the deal. I still have to pay $1100 in rego transfer, so I guess it cost me about 34K on the road, which I would class as excellent value, but maybe the 2nd-hand deals are there to be had at the moment. I pick up the car tomorrow.

Were tinted windows standard on the 2009 Euro Luxury or was that an extra that was added to mine?

Regards, Warren in Sydney.

I've now been driving my car for a day - it is wonderful! I will never know why the guy before me spent in the vicinity of $10K on accessories, but I'm certainly not complaining - it looks pretty amazing (I haven't seen one like it on the road in silver) and the sports steering wheel and sports pedals are great! (Even so, exchanging a leather steering wheel with another leather steering wheel seems ever so slightly loopy to me). The car drives like a dream (actually a lot better than a brand new one I test drove) and better than I remembered. Once I reset the hi-fi to flat, with just a touch of extra sub, the sound system is very nice, even against my fairly unreasonable standards (I have a home sound system with the replacement value of a small car). Inside, the car it is almost indistinguishable from new. Outside it is completely as new.

I was pretty sure I had scored a bargain. Now I'm sure of it.

By the way, looking at the new Accord styling on the Japanese website, I think my car looks sexier.

[azn_k3nt]

DONE =)

deposit on behalf of my mum on the 1/3/11 at Essendon/Airport West Honda...

Accord Euro '11 (base model made in nov/dec 2010, imported sometime in 2011 i assume) volcano grey + auto + tint + floor mats + bluetooth + reverse sensor = $33,500

Dealer: Lou

[praja6]

Thats a very good price, seems like you got 500 cheaper than the other dealer in VIc quoted for you in the weekend.

[Fredoops]

DONE =)

deposit on behalf of my mum on the 1/3/11 at Essendon/Airport West Honda...

Accord Euro '11 (base model made in nov/dec 2010, imported sometime in 2011 i assume) volcano grey + auto + tint + floor mats + bluetooth + reverse sensor = $33,500

Dealer: Lou

CONGRATS, now before you pickup ask the dealers to make sure they use the new transmission oil ATF-DW in the autotrans instead of the leftover ATF-Z1 old oil, because ATF-Z1 is discontinued so when it's up for oil top up for auto transmission it'll get the ATF DW so you might as well have them put in th better oil in the first place.

Also think about swaping out the dino oil to the honda ultra syn full synethic oil on your 1k service.

They should haven an issue with it since we're charged a $10k premium on them euros compared to the states.

[azn_k3nt]

CONGRATS, now before you pickup ask the dealers to make sure they use the new transmission oil ATF-DW in the autotrans instead of the leftover ATF-Z1 old oil, because ATF-Z1 is discontinued so when it's up for oil top up for auto transmission it'll get the ATF DW so you might as well have them put in th better oil in the first place.

Also think about swaping out the dino oil to the honda ultra syn full synethic oil on your 1k service.

They should haven an issue with it since we're charged a $10k premium on them euros compared to the states.

OKAY wrote those down...

1. Old tran oil ATF-Z1 to new ATF-DW

2. Dino oil to honda ultra syn full syne on 1k service DONE

=) anything else i should be aware of???

where's a good place and cheapest place to service your hondas in the south east of melb? :D

[natnat]

Considering that both Accord Euro and Acura TSX come out of the same factory in Japan Lets throw some numbers around... just to make things interesting.

1. The Accord Euro Lux Specs are pretty much the same as the base model Acura TSX (leatherseat sunroof, all the jazz)
2. The come out of same factory in Japan. product cost difference should be minimal.
3. Tariff: USA, 2.5% AUSTRALIA 5% (DECREASED FROM 10% LAST YEAR, kudos to Rudd)

On-road costs aside (which in USA is like $500 bucks... in total, compared to $3000 here...)
Distance between Aus to Japan and US to Japan is pretyt much the same, due to volume, it's probably cheaper to ship to USA than here...

Lets ignore the onroad costs and just focus on the listed car price (average on road cost for car in USA is $500 odd... compared to $2-3000 here)
Listed RRP base price of Acura TSX Auto: $29,610 USD ( which is $29102 AUD , Exchange rate: $1USD=$0.98287AUD)
Listed RRP base price of Euro Lux Auto: $41,290 AUD (which is $42,009 USD, using same exchange rate as above)

Now adjust the Acura TSX price to show how much it would cost if USA has the same Tariff rate as Australia (5% instead of 2.5%)
$29,610 USD * 1.025 = $30,350 USD (which is $29,830 AUD, using same exchange rate as above)

SO after adjusting the Tariff. A Euro Lux Auto is $41,290 AUD, a Acura TSX Auto is $29,830 AUD, thats a $11,460 difference!!

Even if you do count in the "specials" honda australia is givign out at the moment... which is $2,090 (source: discountnewcars.com.au)
It's still a $9000 difference before looking at onroad costs...

And dont give me that ADR compliance rubbish. it doesnt cost 10 grand car to comply with ADR, not a Honda, and not at this volume.
I'm telling you, Honda makes s*** load more money selling Euros here than USA or Europe for that matter.

the thing is, overhead costs of certain businesses here in Australia is just too high. if a potential new car dealer is not sure he would earn more than the bank interest rate, then he'd better put the money in high interest saver account :p

especially now with the current carbon tax plan, i think the gov't seems to be quite happy to make Australia be a more expensive country to run a business in. :p

[albii]

Considering that both Accord Euro and Acura TSX come out of the same factory in Japan Lets throw some numbers around... just to make things interesting.

1. The Accord Euro Lux Specs are pretty much the same as the base model Acura TSX (leatherseat sunroof, all the jazz)
2. The come out of same factory in Japan. product cost difference should be minimal.
3. Tariff: USA, 2.5% AUSTRALIA 5% (DECREASED FROM 10% LAST YEAR, kudos to Rudd)

On-road costs aside (which in USA is like $500 bucks... in total, compared to $3000 here...)
Distance between Aus to Japan and US to Japan is pretyt much the same, due to volume, it's probably cheaper to ship to USA than here...

Lets ignore the onroad costs and just focus on the listed car price (average on road cost for car in USA is $500 odd... compared to $2-3000 here)
Listed RRP base price of Acura TSX Auto: $29,610 USD ( which is $29102 AUD , Exchange rate: $1USD=$0.98287AUD)
Listed RRP base price of Euro Lux Auto: $41,290 AUD (which is $42,009 USD, using same exchange rate as above)

Now adjust the Acura TSX price to show how much it would cost if USA has the same Tariff rate as Australia (5% instead of 2.5%)
$29,610 USD * 1.025 = $30,350 USD (which is $29,830 AUD, using same exchange rate as above)

SO after adjusting the Tariff. A Euro Lux Auto is $41,290 AUD, a Acura TSX Auto is $29,830 AUD, thats a $11,460 difference!!

Even if you do count in the "specials" honda australia is givign out at the moment... which is $2,090 (source: discountnewcars.com.au)
It's still a $9000 difference before looking at onroad costs...

And dont give me that ADR compliance rubbish. it doesnt cost 10 grand car to comply with ADR, not a Honda, and not at this volume.
I'm telling you, Honda makes s*** load more money selling Euros here than USA or Europe for that matter.

Making this statement and implying Honda dealerships makes $9000 per Euro, shows an incredible amount of ignorance. If you knew anything about the car industry in Australia, Honda are one of many brands that are doing it very tough. High flyers of the imports at the moment are Toyota ,Mazda and Hyundai.

[praja6]

The exchange rate is only now 1us$=aus$.98.. if you have a look more than 6months ago it was .60aus$ something for 1 us$.... I am not a car dealer, but if both the currency are equal then honda may sell the car cheaper here.

1year ago our aus$ was same as now 1:1 and i was going to buy a BOSE stereo and the high end bose here is 7k, compare with same one in usa is 3400 us$. I asked this question to bose australia why the same system is nearly double and they told me bose australia can't reduce the price for the current exchange rate flow and if the exchage rate for aus$ always same then it may possible...

Think about Lexus IS250, its just 32k us$, compare with here 61k aus$(cheaper bargain can get around 56k aus$ driveaway)...

Now sure thats why toyota camry and aurion are very cheap can get around 25-27k may be they built here in australia and not import from overseas?

Now honda reduce prices cheaper to make sales and it who knows after June they may increase the price back...

[natnat]

also, you can't import a US spec'd car into australia anyway :p

instead of complaining about price differences between USA and Aust, why not enjoy it while you can??

i know many people who bought sets of Goodyear F1 Assy and Michelin PS2 from USA for half the rrp here.

i myself bought a set of Bilstein PSS10 coilovers for a GREAT price, here the rrp is $3500.

if the AUD / USD stays at this level in the next 2 years, comes time to replace my CU2 tyres i will buy a set from tirerack.

in the sharemarket / forex market, there are many many BIG PLAYERS who kind of manipulate all these things, and they strike things FAST!

GFC, you think everyone looses? in fact the BIG PLAYERS gained BIG BIG BIG MONEY from their derivatives, it's just the news don't report on them and they don't like to be exposed.

i bet when USA / EUROPE / UK start to raise their interest rates, the AUD will drop as quick as it rose. it's all a game those BIG PLAYERS play.

[antony]

It is a well known fact thar cars are expensive in Australia,and very much cheaper in America,but we have to have cars,and they need to be paid for,so just get on with it.....................

[Fredoops]

Making this statement and implying Honda dealerships makes $9000 per Euro, shows an incredible amount of ignorance. If you knew anything about the car industry in Australia, Honda are one of many brands that are doing it very tough. High flyers of the imports at the moment are Toyota ,Mazda and Hyundai.

You are assuming I am talking about car dealers.
Did make any comments about the dealership in there?
Did I? - No I didn't.
You assuming I'm talking about Net profit to the dealership.
Did I mention whether it's Gross or Net profit per vehicle? - No I didn't
Honda Motor's gross margin is well documented: http://ycharts.com/companies/HMC/gross_profit_margin

Furthermore, ever heard about "International transfer pricing"?

Company has branch in country A and country B,
Tax rate in country A is 15% and Tax rate in country B is 30%
If you are the CEO, what would you do?
Let me tell you, I'll sell cars from country A to country B AT CLOSE TO MARKET COST OF COUNTRY B
As a result, I retain my profit at country A where Tax rate is less.

It's not illegal, and it's not exactly legal, transfer pricing is exactly why some companies base in certain countries.
Honda's are able to sell to USA cheap because:
A) they build cars there (even if it's not Acura TSX, they still have overhead and fix costs to average out)
B) low corporate tax rate (hell... NO corporate tax almost, thanks to Obama)

Transfer pricing means this:
Honda Australia makes bugger all money, all the profit stays in Japan or where ever the hell Honda have their headquarters, all I'm saying is Australians as a whole get s raw deal even the car company staff.

Also with transfer pricing, the CEO can actually allow certain branches in certain countries to run at a loss to rank up the Tax credits, Acer had done that before.

It may sound like straight tax evasion... but Australian Tax office.... In my time in the international trade business, ATO can't do crap. Fact is ATO cant fly to Tokyo to check how much it actually cost to build a Honda.



instead of complaining about price differences between USA and Aust, why not enjoy it while you can??

Im not complaining about anything, I'm just point out some known multinational-corporation tactics, just so the public know, before they buy into crap like "what good for X corporation is good for australia"

[praja6]

Just curiously is anyone knows(may be honda salesperson here)how much does this base model accord euro auto cost to the dealer including their premises rent, staff wages etc etc... THe current advertise price is 35290... sometimes dealers cry they dont get a margin at all, they loss on the sale.... i really don't know its true, when i bought my car for 34k with genuine rear park sensors and 5yr warranty 1yr ago, the salesguy was crying when he range me 1month after for courtesy call how is my car etc etc, they lost in my sale as they want my business etc etc. I asked them if you lose why did you sell me, he said he wanted my business and they recover it from other sales...as they don't sell only honda, they sell other prestige brands as well..

Who knows when one guy they sellt he car for very cheap price below cost or close to their cost price, they may recover it by selling another guy with full price.. who knows..

I know these tactics when i was a part time salesperson in electrical department in one of the big retailer while i was in uni... But not sure the car dealers using same tactics...

ANyway we bought the car and just enjoy it.. But Honda should do something with reduce the price to compete with mazda 6 and liberty...

[antony]

I saw the advert this morning,and the Euro special of $32990 for the manual ,and $35300 for the auto,is a RUNOUT DEAL,which means that the mid cycle facelift is not far away now...........................

[praja6]

I saw the advertisement today in Sydney morning herald for accord euro as RUNOUT model with te price 32990 for manual in Rick damelian add saying only 2 left.. Its sure the facelift model is comming very soon, but question is how much the dealers going to reduce even further for the current model. WHat i heard is honda doesn't import many euros to Australia and stocks are limited. Who knows its truth or not..

Anyone knows the big accord also comming with a facelift version...

[antony]

Honda imports enough Euros into Australia,but stocks are running out before the facelift arrives.

My dealer,Astoria currently have 8 Euros in stock.

I wonder if the price of the facelifted ones will rise slightly ???

Or if they will start off where the older ones left off ???

Time will tell.............

[praja6]

Anthony, 8 they got in stock means that includes base, lux and lux navi? After they sold out those 8 means have to wait for the facelift model?

I think Honda have to keep the price same to compete with Liberty and Mazda 6

[azn_k3nt]

God no offence, but astoria is my least favourite dealer...

You know when they said delivery of the car will be 2 weeks after deposit...is there any chance of it coming earlier??? because i realise i deposit on the car on a monday and 2 weeks time will be labor day =.=

not to mention my daily car has broken down sighsssssss

[praja6]

Why azn_k3nt astoria is your least favourite dealer? Is it because they didn't give you the cheap price? i think in July 2010 i was start hunting for my Euro i tried for cheap price in other states as well and a salesguy called Carl from astoria honda rang me and said they were doing deal for base auto without accessories for 33k driveaway, but since i am in NSW he advised me to match up that price in NSW dealers as there were hassle transport to here etc etc. He sounds friendly and ok to me.. but not sure the dealer attitude at Astoria now may have changed?

WHy it take to deliver the car in 2weeks? When i bought my car here, it took only 5days to get to my home... Did they tell you they have to get the new stock somethiing?

[azn_k3nt]

Honda Astoria manager, He was very stubborn and said "we're no.1 honda in melbourne" then about 30mins into talking "this month has been our worst performing month"

enough of that, i was like give us ur BEST PRICE ON THOSE ACCESSORIES that i mention, he said 33.7k WITHOUT ANY ACCESSORIES...

bro and i was like "huh, we ask for accessories, not for a naked car"

then the manager said, OKAY if i give u the best deal, will you deposit today? we call bluff on that and said yes...well guess what? he said 34.5k for tint and floor mats

seeing the prices that has been sold on ozhonda i knew this wasnt the best deal, so we took up and left...the manager came chasing after us, saying we're unresonable ppl and shit.

Sighssss

oh well...here's my advice to ppl buying accord euros in melbourne...GO TO ESSENDON HONDA 8D

[praja6]

That is bad and sad to hear azn_k3nt.....

How come ANthony was getting good service and that time 34500 was the best anthony can get from dealer.. Interesting..

[azn_k3nt]

well afterall i got 33.7 for a naked car, so nah no thanks :)

Essendon honda was the best very smooth selling, they came up 2 us...i told them i want this accessories blah blah, auto, volcano gray for 33k

he was like i cant do 33k today aka the last day of the month but i might be able 2 do it tomorrow aka the new day of the month

he calls me up at 9am OMG I WAS FUMING, WAS STILL SLEEPING...he said 34k wif all those accessories i was like nah, 33.5k with all those accessories and i'll get out of bed now and give u a deposit in cash LOL

[antony]

I dealt with 5 dealers,but funnily enough Essendon was not 1 of them,as they are on the other side of the city.

Astoria are also only 3 kilometers away,so very convenient,and the service depaerment has been very good so far.

I WOULD still reccomend them.

[azn_k3nt]

Not going 2 judge you on your opinion man :)...i was told to go to doncaster honda as well but i went to essendon but some of the westsiders ozhonda member told me so and plus it was a very new show room so i wanted to see what it was like.

I never even went 2 ferntree gully or the one near fountain gate LOL

[antony]

Funny,I dealt with completely diffirent ones,but I suppose it depends where you are from.

On my doorstep are Astoria,John Blair,Robert Lane,Gary and Warren Smith,with Yarra Honda a bit further away.

Those were the ones I dealt with...

[albii]

You guys wonder why some salesman get shitty and become rude? Picture this, you go to dealer x and he shows you through car , test drive as well as negotiates you a fantastic deal.. You then get up and walk into y dealership who has done nothing and he beats it by $100 and you sign up with them..
And you wonder why dealers dont give out prices???

[albii]

I dealt with 5 dealers,but funnily enough Essendon was not 1 of them,as they are on the other side of the city.

Astoria are also only 3 kilometers away,so very convenient,and the service depaerment has been very good so far.

I WOULD still reccomend them.

Why would u deal with 5 dealers? You can find out everything you need on the internet, then negotiate your deal.

[Fredoops]

Why would u deal with 5 dealers? You can find out everything you need on the internet, then negotiate your deal.
Why shouldn't he deal with 5 dealers? I talk to at least 3 dealers when I get my car. Or you go to a broker then they talk to ALL dealers...

[albii]

Why shouldn't he deal with 5 dealers? I talk to at least 3 dealers when I get my car. Or you go to a broker then they talk to ALL dealers...

You think salesman don't know when they're being shopped? They are masters of reading body language and pick up all the telltale lines used.
You seriously think the brokers are getting you the best deal? Who do you think pays for their services? Certainly not the dealers.

[Fredoops]

You think salesman don't know when they're being shopped? They are masters of reading body language and pick up all the telltale lines used.
You seriously think the brokers are getting you the best deal? Who do you think pays for their services? Certainly not the dealers.

Lolwut

[albii]

Lolwut

Exactly what i said...Have another go at it.

[azn_k3nt]

Even if u shop, by the 3rd dealer you're pretty sure u got the best price u can get and that u should just deposit on the spot :)

but damn really 34k from astoria for only tinted and floor mats hahaha i was like WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 800bucks for window to be tinted...what are they tinting the window with? gold? LOL

If the dealer know they are being shopped, shouldnt they give the lowest and best price they can give? because when i heard 33.7k from astoria for a naked car i was like =/

[antony]

I got prices from 5 dealers,and BECAUSE I shopped around,I got a brilliant deal at that time.

If I would have known how good other dealers were,I would have visited them too......LOL.

[praja6]

Anthony, the price with dealers are different month to month. If one dealer already got target, then they don't want to talk with even below the advertised price. Here in NSW People always says larke hoskins Honda at Homebush are always cheap and they sell lot of cars. They says their dealership is small, they pay less rent and less staff so they can sell it cheaper. However when i went there to buy a car i didn't get a good price, i got a rude sales guy. FInally i got a good price from Rick damelain, most people says Rick damelian sells very expensive.

Its always best to shop around and get the good deal at that time. I do believe when you bought your car, Astoria really needed a sale to meet the target for that month and sold you the car cheaper than other dealers would sell it too. May be when Azn_k3nt went to buy the car Astoria honda already made the target and they don't bother sell the car with very marginal or close to the dealership price..

This advise i always tell to any genuine buyer looking to buy brand new car, just shop around few dealers, price may cheaper depending on the time to time in dealership.

[azn_k3nt]

Dealers are just dealers dont forget at the end of the day, their objective is to meet their sales target which is set calendar monthly...like i went 2 honda in essendon they were like =/ we cant do the price today but maybe tomorrow indicating they are willing to go low so their sales target can have a booming headstart...

I don't dealers that use those tactics...is smart playing and it gives the customers a small window to shop around to see if anyone else is better and please make sure u have a deposit for the day :)

[Fredoops]

Exactly what i said...Have another go at it.

I throught you were joking for a moment.... jesus. the general public's consensus defys you. I'll refer to paraja6's quote:


Anthony, the price with dealers are different month to month. If one dealer already got target, then they don't want to talk with even below the advertised price. Here in NSW People always says larke hoskins Honda at Homebush are always cheap and they sell lot of cars. They says their dealership is small, they pay less rent and less staff so they can sell it cheaper. However when i went there to buy a car i didn't get a good price, i got a rude sales guy. FInally i got a good price from Rick damelain, most people says Rick damelian sells very expensive.

Its always best to shop around and get the good deal at that time. I do believe when you bought your car, Astoria really needed a sale to meet the target for that month and sold you the car cheaper than other dealers would sell it too. May be when Azn_k3nt went to buy the car Astoria honda already made the target and they don't bother sell the car with very marginal or close to the dealership price..

This advise i always tell to any genuine buyer looking to buy brand new car, just shop around few dealers, price may cheaper depending on the time to time in dealership.

Larke Hoskins Honda is cheap.... if you are Chinese (thats right I said it), I got my euro from them 8 years ago.
..... THEN they screw you over royal in servicing costs.
I bumped into the guy who used to work there many years ago, and they bascially allow hondas to sell cheap cause the local Asians dont shop around for servicing, because of language barrier so they charge ASTRONOMICAL costs in servicing.

LOOK every dealership has different strategies, remember the DEALER MARGIN/Delivery ISNT THE ONLY THING THEY MAKE MONEY OUT OF.
Dealers get kickback based on volume too, just like Apple products.

Two things:
1. it's up to the dealer to decide what strategy they want to go, whether it be low/no margin and high volume OR higher Margin Lower volume, the dealer makes that decision based onthe market data (IE: if you are the only honda dealer in 500 miles, then you strategy will be different than... say metro sydney)
2. the VOLUME kickback comes in grades/steps, so you'd have much better chance of making a good deal when a dealer is reaching very close to ther "next step/level" in their volume that a dealer who know they'll never get to the next target volume.

NO dealer is goin to tell you about ho far their sales are up the ladder, thats why you shop around.

[albii]

Sorry , i disagree with praja. Dealer targets are normally just reached by the bigger dealerships or smashed by the smaller dealerships. Look at it this way..small dealership with a target of 20 may do 25 and a large dealership with a target of 300 may do 270. Even if the large dealership does 330 , its only 110% of their target. Makes no sense for either dealership to stop selling as many as they can.
Having met a target does not mean you cant get a great deal...Fredoops ,your last paragraph 1. and 2. is spot on.

[praja6]

Larke Hoskins Honda is cheap.... if you are Chinese (thats right I said it), I got my euro from them 8 years ago.

Hmm thats interesting... Since i am an indian background thats why the sales staff showed me that kind of attitude? or the salesguy didn't have a good day? LOL Doesn't matter Rick damelian service was very good from start to till now, the salesguy ring me and ask me hows my car going, is they can assist me with anything. But rick damelian quoted me the service charge a lot....


..... THEN they screw you over royal in servicing costs.
I bumped into the guy who used to work there many years ago, and they bascially allow hondas to sell cheap cause the local Asians dont shop around for servicing, because of language barrier so they charge ASTRONOMICAL costs in servicing.

THat may be correct, most people take their car for service tot he dealers they bought their car, it applyes to any brand of cars people purchase... They believe the dealer sold the car will look after the car like a baby during service time... May be thats why they charge a lot for service?

I take my car to Trivett parramatta, i am really happy with their service. I can see via the glass windows what they are doing to my car...However when i been there for service twice i requested them not to wash my car, its mainly i seen they use "pressure hose water" to wash the car..

[natnat]

With selling new cars, the are many elements in the costs, margin and pricing.

Dealers make profit by:
1. sales price less car costs (costs paid for Honda Aust, CTP, Rego and Stamp Duty)
2. holdback, this is the term used in dealerships for factory rebate
3. volume bonus, if the dealer achieves say 100 new cars for that month, Honda Aust will give them bonus
4. commission from writing new car loan contracts
5. etc...

When I was working for a dealership, it was quite common for deals done with minimal profits and sometimes a small loss in order to move on old stocks.

At the end of the day, know what you want first so you can come to the dealer fully prepared and do not be swayed by usually attractive lady trying to sell you paint protection / tint / etc... this is where they sometimes try to claw back some profit :)

With servicing Honda cars, most MTA approved mechanics are able to do it, the engine can take the cheap Castrol Magnatec too, so shop around as Praja only paid $150 with Trivett Honda Service and I was quoted $300 with Rick Damelian Service for the same 6 months service job.

Honda is not overly complicated, not like VW / Merc / BMW where a lot of the things are computerised and have a lot of mechatronics components, and require certain oils. I heard a story of someone buying a used VW Golf TDI from a Toyota Dealer, when he drove home the Golf warning lights came on and a lot of smoke came out. Turned out the Toyota Service used normal oil to service car prior to sale and the VW diesel engine requires specific type VW approved oil!

[praja6]

Hi nat,

There is a correctin with my service cost for 150.. which i confirmed they did it as a 5000km service with FEO ultra. With normal Mobil S5w-30 they quoted me 90 something...

The service manager told me after i clarified, since my car is verylow milage, they did it as a 5000km service, the only think they didn;t do is tyre rotation, which includes in 6months service.. Otherwise i can see the invoice says everything checked as per what logbook says in 6months/10k service..

The next service i am taking in sept gona be my 6months one, eventhough my car is going to be close to 1 1/2yrs old in sept this year...

When i question about warranty from Honda, the service manager at trivett told me, Honda only makesure we take the car to honda dealer every 6months for service... If we skip and there is a warranty repair needed then its a big problem.

yes Rick damelian they quoted me higher for me as well, which i found out same 5000km service like trivett did(withot tyre rotation)..

But i heard rick damelian gives a big bar of chocolate to people they take their car for service to them...hmm..

[Fredoops]

Hi nat,

There is a correctin with my service cost for 150.. which i confirmed they did it as a 5000km service with FEO ultra. With normal Mobil S5w-30 they quoted me 90 something...

The service manager told me after i clarified, since my car is verylow milage, they did it as a 5000km service, the only think they didn;t do is tyre rotation, which includes in 6months service.. Otherwise i can see the invoice says everything checked as per what logbook says in 6months/10k service..

The next service i am taking in sept gona be my 6months one, eventhough my car is going to be close to 1 1/2yrs old in sept this year...

When i question about warranty from Honda, the service manager at trivett told me, Honda only makesure we take the car to honda dealer every 6months for service... If we skip and there is a warranty repair needed then its a big problem.

yes Rick damelian they quoted me higher for me as well, which i found out same 5000km service like trivett did(withot tyre rotation)..

But i heard rick damelian gives a big bar of chocolate to people they take their car for service to them...hmm..

Take that to fair-trading and ASIC.... If you wanna see some lols.

[euromandeluxe]

euro lux auto, pearlescent black, bluetooth, ming tint, floor mats

40k

northway honda

[furythree]

Take that to fair-trading and ASIC.... If you wanna see some lols.

lol but they put it in ur contract that to get the warranty, u must service it correctly

oh well, luckily iknow ppl who work at honda dealers and family friends are mechanics so they do watever i want for service at ultra cheap prices :p

euro lux auto, volcanic metallic grey full tint floor mats 5 yr warranty, roadside assist, no bluetooth but modulo spoiler 43k when AUD was at low 80's after GFC
so for 40k thats a good deal. 3k saved can get u full mugen replica kit installed and painted with lowred suspension and money lefto er for CAI or part of some rims

[Fredoops]

lol but they put it in ur contract that to get the warranty, u must service it correctly

oh well, luckily iknow ppl who work at honda dealers and family friends are mechanics so they do watever i want for service at ultra cheap prices :p

euro lux auto, volcanic metallic grey full tint floor mats 5 yr warranty, roadside assist, no bluetooth but modulo spoiler 43k when AUD was at low 80's after GFC
so for 40k thats a good deal. 3k saved can get u full mugen replica kit installed and painted with lowred suspension and money lefto er for CAI or part of some rims

Honda warranty said you have to service it correctly, but they didnt specify you HAVE to service it in a Honda dealer.

[praja6]

FOr my understanding as long as the car is service in the specified service interval(every 6months or 10k/20k/30k etc etc)by a licensed mechanic should be ok i guess. I can't see any fine print in the extended warranty statement the car has to be service at honda dealer....Unless i miss something.

[Roman1]

Guys, first post on here. Am looking at a new auto Euro Luxury. Dealer has the normal retail price on the window, 42,990, but its a 2010 model and has made it very clear they will be very accomodating in negotiation. Question is what price should I expect to get it for? I'm taking a demo for a second run this weekend and expect to negotiate when I get back. I plan on only two accessories, accent lighting and towbar. I read on the forum that supplies are low from Japan and am I right that MY12 starts for new builds this month (June)? Although its new the car is almost old already. Out of interest, should finance or cash make any difference? Any advice welcome, I don't want to pay too much.

[WarrenM]

Guys, first post on here. Am looking at a new auto Euro Luxury. Dealer has the normal retail price on the window, 42,990, but its a 2010 model and has made it very clear they will be very accomodating in negotiation. Question is what price should I expect to get it for? I'm taking a demo for a second run this weekend and expect to negotiate when I get back. I plan on only two accessories, accent lighting and towbar. I read on the forum that supplies are low from Japan and am I right that MY12 starts for new builds this month (June)? Although its new the car is almost old already. Out of interest, should finance or cash make any difference? Any advice welcome, I don't want to pay too much.
I have accent lighting as part of a whole set of accessories someone bought before me (I bought 2nd-hand). I definitely wouldn't pay for accent lighting - it is just not that hot in reality! As for discounts for 2010, the sky is the limit! Major new model about to be released. Car is already 6-months old so treat it like a 6-month old 2nd-hand car! i.e. at least 15% off as FINAL negotiated price. I'd be tempted to say "here's your $2000 deposit. No negotiations. Price is $36,500 with a tow-bar, accent lighting, tinted windows, i-pod connection, bluetooth, a 5-year factory warranty, (plus the first year's Honda Insurance without your commission!). Take it or leave it. And then SHUT UP and let them squirm for hours, trying to ratchet up the price or squeeze down the accessories. No matter what they say, that is your price, finally allowing yourself to be squeezed to $37,500 or $38,000. Turn up at 2pm and make sure you still have not budged by more than $500 and an accessory or two when it is just about nightfall. Until you have rejected the SALES MANAGER's first plea, negotiations have not really started. By the time you sign, it will be this salesman's only commission for the day and he will be desperate. As far as cash or finance, keep them guessing. Let them know you can pay cash, but you are considering finance either through them or elsewhere. If you are considering finance, make sure you have deals discussed and available through a finance broker AND a bank if possible, with TOTAL payout over the life of say a $38000 loan fixed in your head. Likewise have a couple of reputable quotes for insurance. Honda Insurance is GIO with a couple of neat extras - about 5% more expensive than GIO, but 20% of that price is commission.

Once they've taken your deposit, they'll send out the sexy busty blond to show you their paint protection and lot of other expensive add-ons. It's OK to look it her **** when you talk to her - that's why they are there! Paint protection is NOT useless if you park outside with birds or bats regularly dropping their presents on you. I can't think of any other situation where it is useful. Their markup is way over 50% so keep that in mind.

If you're in Sydney and you get your ultra-bargain, you can shout me a beer some time.

Cheers
Warren

[antony]

Good luck,as we all know the Euro is AWESOME,and I hope you buy one and get a good deal.

What colour are you thinking,and where are you located ???

Let us know what happens ...

[Fredoops]

Honda Half Yearly Sales is on:

Honda Accord Euro pricing:
Accord Euro Base $29,340 (man.) / $31,640 (auto.)
Accord Euro Luxury $36,840 (man.) / $39,140 (auto.)
Accord Euro Luxury Navi $42,140 (auto. only)

[TMW]

Honda Half Yearly Sales is on:

Honda Accord Euro pricing:
Accord Euro Base $29,340 (man.) / $31,640 (auto.)
Accord Euro Luxury $36,840 (man.) / $39,140 (auto.)
Accord Euro Luxury Navi $42,140 (auto. only)

Are those D/A pricing?
It should be around that prices with no accessories at all.

[antony]

Those prices are NOT drive away,I have just checked on the Honda website,so add about 10 percent extra to get the DEIVE AWAY prices.

But the prices are VERY good,but the resale on my 1 year old Euro has probably taken a knock.

Honda need the DIESEL and WAGON,NOT constant price reductions...

[Roman1]

Thanks all for the fast responses. Given today's 2K price drop, 2010 plates and a new model on its way I think I'll do ok tomorrow. I'll post back tomorrow night. Thanks again.

[antony]

Thanks all for the fast responses. Given today's 2K price drop, 2010 plates and a new model on its way I think I'll do ok tomorrow. I'll post back tomorrow night. Thanks again.

There will be little room to negotiate on price now IMHO ???

[WarrenM]

There will be little room to negotiate on price now IMHO ???

There is just as much room as before!!!

[Fredoops]

Even more so I reckon, since they had to get rid of the runout stock before they introduce the facelift.

Base model manual Euro is now under $30k base price..... sign of the times.
Considering the price of (Premium) petrol... and the fact CU2 hits 10L/100k or more in city driving....

[Roman1]

For those interested we did not reach the negotiation stage because there were a few unexpected developments. The price of the vehicle on Tuesday did not further reduce following Friday's announcement by Honda and I expected that it would have, in fact the price increased by a few dollars to meet the new Australian recommended retail so the original reduction in price due to it being a 2010 build was gone. There may be further developments tomorrow and I'll post the outcome. I do not wish to identify the dealer.

[Bakks]

I've been looking at CL9's, but have seen a few CU9's that aren't that much more.

Two cars I'm looking at are both 2008 model, ~60,000 km's and manual. One base model, one luxury. What do you think is a reasonable price? They are advertised for $24k and $25k respectively. I was thinking $20k and $22k respectively. Thoughts?

I've had a bit of a search around and apart from the pinging, is there much to look out for?

[antony]

I assume both the 2008 models are CL9 s.
Check them out,they are basically bullet proof,and let us know what your thoughts are...

[Bakks]

CU9 - fairly sharply priced. I went and drove them yesterday, quite a lot nicer as a cruiser than the CL9 I thought. Manual gearbox was actually brilliant (I didn't have high expectations).

[I CU2]

You mean CU2 and CL9 right?

Definitely get the CU2 if there's only a 1k difference between the two.

[Bakks]

Sorry mate, yep - CU2! Not some CU2 / CL9 hybrid :)

Both are CU2. I was looking at CL9's in the high teen's / low 20's, but it seems the CU2's are now mid 20's and they seem a bit better value. I like the Luxury version but I HATED the poor quality leather on the CL9 - all of those I looked at were worn quite badly, but the CU2 leather seems to hold up a lot better.

[I CU2]

22K for a Lux is good. Get that over the base model, manual is quite hard to find in the luxury variant as well.

[antony]

For a CU2,those asking prices are radicilously LOW,GO FOR IT.

[buddah51au]

Usually when cars are selling below Red Book Value it is for a reason, ask yourself if there is a serious accident history or flood damage. When something sounds too good to be true it usually is.

[Bakks]

Of course - but when buying from a dealer if they have the car on the lot for a while they are usually keen to move it. I understand their stock is leased so there is a cost involved in it sitting there. None the less I think my lowball offer might be a bit too low...

[I CU2]

I got my CU2 for a similar price, lady wanted a German car instead and let it go for less than she owed on it.

[marquee]

Less then owed hope she paid it and no security on this car if not it can be reposesd

[I CU2]

Who would buy a used vehicle without making sure that the encumbrance is cleared on it. D:

[antony]

Usually when cars are selling below Red Book Value it is for a reason, ask yourself if there is a serious accident history or flood damage. When something sounds too good to be true it usually is.

I agree,my first thoughts were that those cars were REPAIRABLE WRITE OFFS...

[I CU2]

I agree,my first thoughts were that those cars were REPAIRABLE WRITE OFFS...

Don't people do REVS.

[antony]

I think a lot of people dont even know what REVS is...

[buddah51au]

A car can still have a serious accident without showing up on Revs. Don't forget the floods in the eastern states this year, the cars can be repaired but they r never the same

[SPQR]

A car can still have a serious accident without showing up on Revs. Don't forget the floods in the eastern states this year, the cars can be repaired but they r never the same

Sounds like lots of shonky cars on the East coast... Floods, hail, bushfires, the occasional earthquake... Wow. I'd rather the occasional cyclone.

[praja6]

A car can still have a serious accident without showing up on Revs. Don't forget the floods in the eastern states this year, the cars can be repaired but they r never the same

Thats strange i thought whatever accident happens that history should show up in REVS check...

[I CU2]

Thats strange i thought whatever accident happens that history should show up in REVS check...

I guess some people don't actually report the accident and just get it fixed up themselves. I think I saw a M3 BMW on car sales that was a write off but the owner said it wasn't in the write off registry and it still had rego and stuff lol?

[praja6]

I guess some people don't actually report the accident and just get it fixed up themselves. I think I saw a M3 BMW on car sales that was a write off but the owner said it wasn't in the write off registry and it still had rego and stuff lol?

thats not good. just a question.. so if an accident happen and claimed from insurance company to fix the accident will that be in the RECS history? FOr example small changes such as bumper change claim from insurance...

[antony]

In Victoria,only written off cars are put onto the register.

[azn_k3nt]

Found a 7k mazda 2 that's green, looks great and everything but on the vicroad website said it was a repairable write off.

Simple just do the check on it :) and everything will be fine LOL

[Euro-W000p5]

Hey guys second post ever lol. Was looking at getting a Euro last year and now I am ready to go. Not sure if I want the standard (so cheap) or luxury (all the extras :D) in AUTO. Just wondering what price we should be aiming for at the moment?? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
PS should I start a new thread for the new model?? And what does the 2011 (my12) offer over the 2010 (my11) if anything??

[antony]

If you want a Euro,you better act quickly,as the current special is on until the end of this month,and prices are amazing...

[Euro-W000p5]

Thanks Antony. Is there any mark in particular I should be aiming for in automatic for standard or luxury??

[Fredoops]

Keep haggling, try for 30k for standard, since the car will be MY11 stock (ie: there's already a years worth of depreciation on it).

[ryaan]

i reckon you can get 35-36k lux auto if you haggle hard enough

[azn_k3nt]

29-33k max for standard, i got my cu2 in March for about 33.5 :)

[Euro-W000p5]

It will be a 2011 my 12. Is 35-36 possible on a new luxury model??

[antony]

Where are you located ?

I have a good contact in Melbourne...

[ryaan]

My12 doesn't affect the price, its the build date that affects it :)

[Euro-W000p5]

Hey mate thanks for the offer but I'm in Sydney. If I was to order it
In January would it be a 2012 model?? Would it cost much more than the current model?? Thanks for the input guys it's much appreciated :D

[antony]

The current Euro is allready a MY12,the only diffirence is it would be registerted in 2012 if you bought it in January.

Why dont you go to your local dealership,and ask all the relevant questions,as well as look at the car and drive one........

[Fredoops]

Buy now, Register/pickup after new years.

[Euro-W000p5]

I have looked at the car and driven it, thank you. I have decided on the Luxury Auto (Premium White :D). The dealer suggested the same thing to me ,fredoops, to place the order now and pick it up/register in January. Is there any reason in particular to do this over not getting it done straight away?? Has anyone managed to get around 37k driveaway or better for the Lux Auto??

[Fredoops]

Decent deal, see if they are willing to throw in any accessories tho

As the registering, the only reason I'd wait till after new years is the fact it's a pain in the ass renewing the rego in the holiday period....

[mrgu]

got a deal today from garry warren smith $39097 drive away inc metallic paint, mat,door sill garnish set and sports pedals with extended warranty

[Fredoops]

got a deal today from garry warren smith $39097 drive away inc metallic paint, mat,door sill garnish set and sports pedals with extended warranty

Read the fine print on extended warranty so you don't get sucked into paying for dealer service for 7-10 years...

[buddah51au]

Here is an 08 CU2 auto I can vouch for for anyone interested, I am sure you could do better than advertised price. http://www.baycitynissan.countrycars.com.au/showAd.php?ref=1117248&fi=10

2008 HONDA EURO 8TH GEN
$27,990
Seller Ref: U8661

WITH THIS CAR YOU GET SPORTS AND LUXURY COMBINED, HAS A 10 SPEAKER, 6 STACK CD PLAYER, DUAL ZONE AIRCON, A GLOVEBOX THAT CAN BE COOLED FOR DRINKS ETC, CRUISE CONTROL, ALARM, BOTTLE HOLDERS IN FRONT AND BACK, GEAR SHIFT PADDLES ON BACK OF STEERING WHEEL, MAP READING LIGHTS, POWER STEERING IS ELECTRIC ASSIST AND SPEED SENSITIVE. YOU HAVE TOO DRIVE THIS CAR TOO APPRECIATE IT. VEHICLE LOCATED AT THE HERVEY BAY DEALERSHIP, FOR MORE INFO PH:(07) 41240000

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Details
Colour: WHITE Body: Sedan
Interior: GREY Km: 39175
Engine: 4 CYL Transmission: Automatic
Vin: JHMCU26409C212088 Registration: 136LJD
Reg Expiry: 18/12/2011
Contact Details
Print Details

[tony1234]

Here is an 08 CU2 auto I can vouch for for anyone interested, I am sure you could do better than advertised price. http://www.baycitynissan.countrycars.com.au/showAd.php?ref=1117248&fi=10

2008 HONDA EURO 8TH GEN
$27,990
Seller Ref: U8661

WITH THIS CAR YOU GET SPORTS AND LUXURY COMBINED, HAS A 10 SPEAKER, 6 STACK CD PLAYER, DUAL ZONE AIRCON, A GLOVEBOX THAT CAN BE COOLED FOR DRINKS ETC, CRUISE CONTROL, ALARM, BOTTLE HOLDERS IN FRONT AND BACK, GEAR SHIFT PADDLES ON BACK OF STEERING WHEEL, MAP READING LIGHTS, POWER STEERING IS ELECTRIC ASSIST AND SPEED SENSITIVE. YOU HAVE TOO DRIVE THIS CAR TOO APPRECIATE IT. VEHICLE LOCATED AT THE HERVEY BAY DEALERSHIP, FOR MORE INFO PH:(07) 41240000

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Details
Colour: WHITE Body: Sedan
Interior: GREY Km: 39175
Engine: 4 CYL Transmission: Automatic
Vin: JHMCU26409C212088 Registration: 136LJD
Reg Expiry: 18/12/2011
Contact Details
Print Details

Hmmm.I wonder who the previous owner was????

[buddah51au]

I often wonder the same thing Tony ..... lol

[antony]

buddah,was that your previous Euro ???

If so,why is it at a Nissan dealer,as you traded it in on another Euro ???

[buddah51au]

buddah,was that your previous Euro ???

If so,why is it at a Nissan dealer,as you traded it in on another Euro ???

Bay City Honda, Nissan, Kia ..... a multi franchise dealer. I have never seen it on the lot as apparently the Dealer Priciple's wife drives it.

[antony]

It was a great car,and you obviously looked after it very well....

[buddah51au]

It was a great car,and you obviously looked after it very well....

To be honest I haven't seen the car for 3 months, so how the finish has stood up to 3 months of dealer washes I don't know. What I will say is that it had been fully detailed prior to trade & looked so good all the office staff went over it & commented that the paint looked better than my new one. Nothing a few days work could not rectify.

I will add that the price they are asking is not a great deal more than the price i was given for a trade.

[buddah51au]

Here is an 08 CU2 auto I can vouch for for anyone interested, I am sure you could do better than advertised price. http://www.baycitynissan.countrycars.com.au/showAd.php?ref=1117248&fi=10

2008 HONDA EURO 8TH GEN
$27,990
Seller Ref: U8661

WITH THIS CAR YOU GET SPORTS AND LUXURY COMBINED, HAS A 10 SPEAKER, 6 STACK CD PLAYER, DUAL ZONE AIRCON, A GLOVEBOX THAT CAN BE COOLED FOR DRINKS ETC, CRUISE CONTROL, ALARM, BOTTLE HOLDERS IN FRONT AND BACK, GEAR SHIFT PADDLES ON BACK OF STEERING WHEEL, MAP READING LIGHTS, POWER STEERING IS ELECTRIC ASSIST AND SPEED SENSITIVE. YOU HAVE TOO DRIVE THIS CAR TOO APPRECIATE IT. VEHICLE LOCATED AT THE HERVEY BAY DEALERSHIP, FOR MORE INFO PH:(07) 41240000

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Details
Colour: WHITE Body: Sedan
Interior: GREY Km: 39175
Engine: 4 CYL Transmission: Automatic
Vin: JHMCU26409C212088 Registration: 136LJD
Reg Expiry: 18/12/2011
Contact Details
Print Details

Update, I would now stay away from this car, I heard yesterday 1 of the salesman demolished the front, how bad I don't know. I was told it will be repaired & sent to a wholesaler.

I don't understasnd how they have had it for 3 months & it has not been on their used car lot.

[Kwangstuhhh]

Update, I would now stay away from this car, I heard yesterday 1 of the salesman demolished the front, how bad I don't know. I was told it will be repaired & sent to a wholesaler.

I don't understasnd how they have had it for 3 months & it has not been on their used car lot.

Would have been a good price but if anyone's still interested in buying a 2010 CU2 mine's up for sale! :D

Details here (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=11762394).

Sorry to mods if I have posted this in the wrong area!

[pitiek]

Hi Kwang,
Is the modulo rear bumper a lip add on or a whole bumper?

[I CU2]

Whole bumper.

[Kwangstuhhh]

Hi Kwang,
Is the modulo rear bumper a lip add on or a whole bumper?
Yeah what I CU2 said! It's the Genuine bumper from Honda - I have the receipt for it too :)

[I CU2]

What are you going to buy now?

[antony]

Good luck with the sale,it was a beauty...

[Kwangstuhhh]

What are you going to buy now?
Don't know yet, something much more affordable...I'm hoping haha. Only selling it coz I have my eyes on some very affordable townhouses down the road from my place at the moment. And it would be a great opportunity to move out from my parents! :D


Good luck with the sale,it was a beauty...
Thanks so much antony :D!!

[Neilz]

Hey all long time viewer first time poster and seeing buying a car would be great on some nsight...

Went to dealership and got me $39k driveaway on Luxury but delivery not till 1st week Feb

Duck tail spoiler - might remove this
Luggage area protector Tray
BootLip Protector
Floor Mats - been informed on net that these are standard and not optional accessories?
Door sill alluminium Set
Window Tiniting
Extra Lights: Interior Foot Hole Lights both Front Passenger and Drivers Side and Under Steering Column
6 Years Road Side Assistants
3 Years extended Dealer Warranty
Euro Plates
Full Tank Fuel
Metallic Paint - Graphite Lustre


Has anyone else gotten a better deal in Sydney ?

Cheers!

[pitiek]

In auto??
That's a bargain if you can get auto lux for that money with all those accesories..

[Neilz]

In auto??
That's a bargain if you can get auto lux for that money with all those accesories..

yup in auto... but imma remove the spoiler as it looks crap from other pics... might substitute for:

dash protector


might also see if i can ge tthe modulo kit fingers crossed

[mrgu]

the best deal for Lux auto without nav is 36500 drive away. i went to the dealer yesterday ,

black euro lux auto brand new 36500 drive away with mat, door sills, sports pedals and duck tail spoiler

[Neilz]

the best deal for Lux auto without nav is 36500 drive away. i went to the dealer yesterday ,

black euro lux auto brand new 36500 drive away with mat, door sills, sports pedals and duck tail spoiler

was this car already in stock or comming in late jan/early febuary?

[tonysalib]

the best deal for Lux auto without nav is 36500 drive away. i went to the dealer yesterday ,

black euro lux auto brand new 36500 drive away with mat, door sills, sports pedals and duck tail spoiler

2012 plated? It would such a good deal if it is.

[mrgu]

was this car already in stock or comming in late jan/early febuary?
it's alreadyin stock ..it's a MY12 lux auto..what's the difference ?

[tonysalib]

it's alreadyin stock ..it's a MY12 lux auto..what's the difference ?

No difference really it will just be considered 1 year older in the long run because it is 2011 first compliance. They always try to get rid of last year's stock hence offer great discounts like that. Don't you watch the Holden ads on TV :)

[mrgu]

2012 plated? It would such a good deal if it is.

ALL dealers can do that! not just one. would be cheaper if i shop around in Vic area. they don't have any sales now! The new jazz vibe is a good choice cos it's made in Japan not thailand

[mrgu]

No difference really it will just be considered 1 year older in the long run because it is 2011 first compliance. They always try to get rid of last year's stock hence offer great discounts like that. Don't you watch the Holden ads on TV :)

I wouldn't mind the smell of a new car. but i that's 3k cheaper we are talking about

[tonysalib]

I wouldn't mind the smell of a new car. but i that's 3k cheaper we are talking about

Oh yeah! If you don't care as long as its brand new then go for it. It is a good deal nevertheless.

[praja6]

Thats a very good deal for lux auto.. Did you get this 36500 deal from same Garry warren smith you mention got a deal in your earlier post on 3rd they quoted 39097?

Enjoy your car.




the best deal for Lux auto without nav is 36500 drive away. i went to the dealer yesterday ,

black euro lux auto brand new 36500 drive away with mat, door sills, sports pedals and duck tail spoiler

[mrgu]

no..from collingwood honda..

[antony]

Brilliant deal ,I would grab it........

[mrgu]

Brilliant deal ,I would grab it........
haha. but my wife insists on Tiguan this time..wanna something bigger and more torque

[mrgu]

Thats a very good deal for lux auto.. Did you get this 36500 deal from same Garry warren smith you mention got a deal in your earlier post on 3rd they quoted 39097?

Enjoy your car.

haha thanks for the blessing but i am going for tiguan this time

[Fredoops]

haha thanks for the blessing but i am going for tiguan this time

Tdi or tsi?

[mrgu]

I wanna 103TDI with leather and foggies and comfort pack and rims= 155 TSI in price more kw but 40Nm less in Torque..prob 155TSI

[Fredoops]

I wanna 103TDI with leather and foggies and comfort pack and rims= 155 TSI in price more kw but 40Nm less in Torque..prob 155TSI

103tdi can be chipped to 140kw iirc

155tsi can be chipped to 190kw without any mechanical changes iirc.
0-100 6.3-6.5sec on the 6spd DSG.......... All for about $1000 or so.

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f97/tiguan-performance-tuning-56616.html

[mrgu]

Thanks champ! That helps! I might go for the 132TSI with options now cos I am gonna tune anyway

[eurasian]

Just got a manual base model September update euro for a bit less than 28k driveaway in Brisbane. Have only driven it from dealer home so far but extremely impressed with car. Very nice inside for a base model, and for someone who normaly drives an automatic these 6 speed gearboxes are amazingly fun. Cant wait to go for a drive!

[antony]

Just got a manual base model September update euro for a bit less than 28k driveaway in Brisbane. Have only driven it from dealer home so far but extremely impressed with car. Very nice inside for a base model, and for someone who normaly drives an automatic these 6 speed gearboxes are amazingly fun. Cant wait to go for a drive!

Very nice,congratulations.

What car did you have before,and what others did you consider ???

Which colour did you get ???

[eurasian]

I have had a 1981 240d diesel Mercedes for about 10 years haha :)

Its the pearl white and other cars I was looking at were Ford Focus, Mazda 3 not much else really, most of the other cars comparable to the euro are much more expensive and were beyond my budget, I think spending the extra 5k odd K for the euro over the above was a good decision. Seems like amazing bang for buck.

One thing I cant get over is how large the car is, its HUGE! Its a bit like a whale that handles like a go cart, love it. Its significantly bigger than the merc and that was big enough.

I am going to clean it in the morning and put a few coats of Jetseal 109 on it.