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bambi
09-09-2010, 06:33 PM
hey guys!

well i called pedders looking for lowered springs for my EK1. i know your all going to tell me to get coilovers but no, its not a huge build i just want minor aesthetic improvements (ie lip kit, mags, lowered, EK9 grill, you get the general aim)

for those of you who did buy them did you get the lowered spring or the drastically lowered spring, and do you have any photos?

by the numbers he gave me the car will only drop 5mm with the low and that seems wrong but itll drop an inch and a bit by the even lower set. please let me know i need to figure out what im doing :)

btw doing pedders works for me, i get good discount there lol

Mikecivic78
09-09-2010, 09:24 PM
Don't just get lowered prings, get shockies to match. Ur stock shocks will wear out real quick and handling will be shit.

Don't just go rice lowered springs on stock shocks IMO.

If u have mates at Pedders they will do a good deal on shocks + springs combo. U shouldnt cheap out.

mugen_ctr
09-09-2010, 09:33 PM
Don't just get lowered prings, get shockies to match. Ur stock shocks will wear out real quick and handling will be shit.

Don't just go rice lowered springs on stock shocks IMO.

If u have mates at Pedders they will do a good deal on shocks + springs combo. U shouldnt cheap out.

Agreed with that...

But since it seems ur on a budget, id suggest 1.5 inch drop is reasonable, enough for the shockers to still be working and alive, anything below 2inch drop is just asking for trouble with the stocky shockers
Btw, pedders seem to retail there springs much more costly than say other places

bambi
09-09-2010, 09:40 PM
its a case of get springs asap, then when i get a bit more money put new shocks in coz i do wanna do the whole thing, ive had busted shocks from low springs on my old 180. yeah i know, faggot ex-nissan driver lol

he said like $265 for all 4 springs? is that decent? i had them in my integra but they hardly lowered it at all so thats why i was thinking the lower option but i really need to see someone else who has put them in so i know what kind of ride height im looking at. they told me from the bottom of the wheel to the arch either 575 mm or 545 up front and 575 or 560 on rear. 17 inch rims (once again, off the integra)

i would go kings but thats what i had in the 180 and they annihilated the ride quality even with new shocks all round.

mugen_ctr
09-09-2010, 10:23 PM
Sounds pretty good price, kings retail for around the same price, im not to sure about the height an all, but if its got something like 2 finger gaps or so should b ok, hardly anyone here use pedders, from what iev seen, kings seem to be the go

Im surprised u went from a 180sx to a civic, lol, id love to get a 180sx again :)

flipfire
09-09-2010, 11:35 PM
You'll barely notice the drop. Save the money and buy coilovers. Springs alone will turn your stock shocks into mush so in the end youll end up paying for shocks and springs which end up the same price as coilovers anyway.

If your still interested with springs here some pics:

Stock / Lows (1.5") / Superlows (2.5") (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10371015/lwr.jpg)

Ultralows (3.5") (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10371015/19092009051.jpg) and closer (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10371015/20092009053.jpg) shot

(Pics not 100% accurate cause i didnt take them all at the same level.)

eeKayFouR
09-09-2010, 11:48 PM
for your application, say just a nice daily with some pretty bits and pieces, springs will do you fine. but hey, if you've got more coin definately go for the whole shock combo or coilovers, because dont forget your stock shocks are possibly over 10 years old!

rboys
10-09-2010, 03:10 PM
yeah I had stock shocks with king springs and only last year my stock shocks went (into mush), i ended up replacing the entire lot with sport springs and shocks, was a little less than coilovers but handles great now!

bambi
15-09-2010, 05:42 PM
being a daily coilovers seem like overkill, and all the affordable ones seem to have bad write ups for comfort. thanks for that photo it was exactly what i wanted. would the super lows be equivalent to the lower pedders option? are those 17inch mags on that one? ill look into some king springs for pricing through work and see if i can get them any cheaper. i was just considering some KYB shocks or something coz mine are the original ones.

flipfire
15-09-2010, 06:32 PM
Youll end paying the same price after the lowered springs mash your stock shocks.

But yes 17" wheels, on the photos. Not sure about peddars springs but 2-2.5" is a good drop since its the most practicable height for a daily.

bambi
17-09-2010, 06:00 PM
the cheapest decent coilovers i can find are $1799 and i cant find a way to get discount on them (im cheap i understand this) and i dont wanna go second hand because im that kind of person and i dont have the time to be chasing up getting shocks rebuilt. by the looks of it i can get springs for <$300 and i can get shocks discount through work so theyll cost less than a grand in total easily so i might as well do that way and just choose my springs carefully. by your photos though ill just get the super lows theyre the height i want and the king springs/kyb combination i had in my 180 was pretty decet, a bit unforgiving but the civic doesnt have a chassis that tight anyway.

i know ill pay the same after my shocks die i just need to improve the general look of the car asap haha. plus mashed shocks arent the worst thing in the world. theyre tolerable for daily driving until i can afford the new shocks (which shouldnt be too long anyway)

then ill move on and get some more upgrades as they come available to me =D so keen to have a proper modified car again!

mugen_ctr
17-09-2010, 08:21 PM
umm bc coilovers retail around 1300, but than again this is a budget coil over, so dont expect much from them on the road, except stiff suspension ride....

I dont believe coilovers are over kill for the road, its that many get the budget option coilovers and expect good ride comfort, wen in fact its not, you get what u pay for i guess, so my suggestion, if comfort is high priority, go for springs and good shocks, that should more than enough

Mikecivic78
20-09-2010, 09:22 AM
Does anyone know how much pedders charges for EK civic performance springs/shocks combo?

I'm just curious.

bambi
20-09-2010, 06:02 PM
ill give them a call tomorrow if i can and just ask how much more for a set of shocks in addition to the $265 he quoted for springs and get back to you ;D

Mikecivic78
20-09-2010, 08:03 PM
ill give them a call tomorrow if i can and just ask how much more for a set of shocks in addition to the $265 he quoted for springs and get back to you ;D

cheers mate, thanks

bambi
23-09-2010, 09:34 PM
wow stil havent, ive got tomorrow off so ill do it then. just an ek hatch right? =D

sinseven
24-09-2010, 08:41 AM
just but combo sets from the states shocks and springs its a good rate atm too

bambi
24-09-2010, 11:50 PM
alright called em this morning. they said normally all 4 shocks in the gas sealed sports ryder type are $1016 but if your in the trade just under eight hundred. i dunno but a grand for pedders shocks and springs seems a bit steep when there are other decent brands out there

Oz_Striker
25-09-2010, 08:33 PM
i got quoted $1860 for springs and shocks combo a pedders that was with fitting and allignment. Bugger that! lol have ordered a set of Skunk2 sports shocks and putting either tien pro s or eibach pro kit springs on them and wont cost me more than $1K. From the advice i got pedders are a rip lol and they're stuff isn't much too shout about anyway.

Unless your shouting in anger when your springs sag lol :P

mugen_ctr
25-09-2010, 08:42 PM
ouch!!!@ that much for spring an shockers!!! betta off goin coil-overs lol, or goin tein springs an shockers

ozboi
25-09-2010, 11:46 PM
This how its look like on my EK with Pedders Sport (Front: 2552, rear: 2553). Im using stock shocks for nearly 2 years now and seems no issues at all or maybe I don't drive much. I think Pedders is good enough for your requirement and budget "atm". The height looks good, especially the front, need a bit lower for the rear. Handling is different with the stock springs, stiffer and harder. It also depends on how low you wanna go. Lowered springs obviously cannot compare to a set of coilovers but if you can get special price from Pedders, why not? Lots of ppl go for lowered springs! But if you think about the long term and low your ride a bit more, go for coilovers mate! 3months saving I think will be enough. Im now thinking of going for tein or cusco coilovers. Anyway, the final decision is up to you, whichever makes you happy! ehrrrr cannot upload pic, dunno why! Give the link instead.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5263666&id=741395080&ref=fbx_album&fbid=383662580080

Oz_Striker
26-09-2010, 06:20 PM
yeah exactly what i thought, what a load of bs lol. you can get a way better sussy for that money. i think i'm gonna have to go the teins because i cant find many Eibach Pro Kits around :( oh well still good springs, 'thesaint' has that combo and he reckons they're good for street use

CivicEH9
26-09-2010, 09:21 PM
I'm pretty sure JDMyard have Eibach Pro Kit springs if you would rather those than the Teins. Either way seems like a decent street setup to me though and it's what I'm thinking of using eventually

Oz_Striker
27-09-2010, 07:35 PM
yeah they did have them but are out of stock for my model :( unlucky lol

CivicEH9
27-09-2010, 07:45 PM
Ah bugger hey. Still, Tein isn't exactly no-name rubbish either if you go that way

Oz_Striker
27-09-2010, 07:50 PM
yeah true, hopefully i can get them soon, my car seriously looks like a 4WD lol :P

CivicEH9
27-09-2010, 08:08 PM
Mine's a bit the same but I've noticed it doesn't seem to look quite so bad on the EG's. Still want to do something about it but can't really justify spending money on things I don't need to right now :P

Oz_Striker
27-09-2010, 09:21 PM
your right it doesn't look as bad eh. yeah fair enough, well i'm still at home and don't even have to pay board because my parents are cool as! lol but i can pretty much spend everything i earn on my car if i want to. i'm not going to do that mind you, am trying to save but my little silver hatch is making it hard for me :P

bambi
08-10-2010, 11:54 PM
haha i like im not the only budgetting one.
im getting some king springs through work for now, just lows, im only a p plater due to a licencing mishap so if i go too low ill get done. i figure lows wont **** my shocks too badly. itll give me the opportunity to spend money on some more aesthetics and performance then when my pay increases through work ill get some skunk2s or Teins. with the mugen front lip i just got and the type r replica kit im getting it should look fairly low anyway.
you guys are right though, just lowered springs arent a handling option theyre just looks.
ill get into the whiteline catalogue and get all the camber and caster adjust stuff eventually so when i do get the coilovers later itll be a handling masterpiece =D

Oz_Striker
10-10-2010, 06:27 PM
not a bad choice mate, remember the skunk2 sports shocks are only $500, which isn't much to spend on top of your srings but if your gonna get coils later on with the "full shabang" lol i spose it may not be worth it. your decision in the end anyway mate, good luck with it! :D

blabla
22-10-2010, 09:28 PM
I have the skunks good shock for thr money but my currents spring are terrible (pedders) i am looking at doing a custom set either the type r rates or something like 6 - 8kg on the front in linear with a progressive rate something lik 2.5 to 5kg or 3 to 6kg for the rear. Still trying to decide