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Behtec_JunKIE
17-09-2010, 06:38 PM
hey guys sorry i didnt know where to post it if its in the wrong place, but im looking for a cad drawing of a b16a or any b series motor really if you also have d, h, or k it will be greatly appreciated thanks in advance cheers guys

crazy.ivan
17-09-2010, 07:13 PM
No sorry, I don't. If you don't mind me asking, what do you want them for?

90LAN
17-09-2010, 07:29 PM
http://www.google.com.au/images?q=b16a+engine+diagram&hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=qzSTTKrFEIu8vQPf8IGaDQ&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQsAQwAA&biw=1073&bih=427

mugen_ctr
17-09-2010, 08:23 PM
Blue prints of B16, no, maybe ask workshops, but diagrams, get the service manual or workshop manual, an u should b set

Behtec_JunKIE
18-09-2010, 01:49 AM
No sorry, I don't. If you don't mind me asking, what do you want them for?

i wanna use them to study port flow to simulate porting maching etc easist way to study without actually physically doing it and spending money lol

markismaximus
18-09-2010, 07:47 AM
wouldn't you need a 3D model rather than a 2D cad drawing to study something like that. You would also need a program that is capable of analysing air flow.

define "study"

hisoka
18-09-2010, 12:28 PM
lol cad doesnt mean 2d , it can mean 3d aswell. just means any drawing made on computer rather then by hand.


probably a long shot but try companies that make billet products for b series, such as SKUNK2 , they would definately have the 3d version , as they need it for a cnc machine. doubt they would give it for free

crazy.ivan
18-09-2010, 01:34 PM
I am a draftsman, and I use CAD all the time (though in 2D not 3D) so this sounds really interesting. What programs are you planning to use?

markismaximus
18-09-2010, 03:29 PM
lol cad doesnt mean 2d , it can mean 3d aswell. just means any drawing made on computer rather then by hand.


probably a long shot but try companies that make billet products for b series, such as SKUNK2 , they would definately have the 3d version , as they need it for a cnc machine. doubt they would give it for free

I know, it stands for computer aided design.

Typically CAD is associated with autocad, not 3D cad. He should've specified what he was after in the OP.

I highly, highly doubt any company such as skunk2 or similar is going to provide you with a model

EK1.6LCIV
18-09-2010, 05:06 PM
x2 mark lol

I'd download cad and diy, no one in a firm would issue a drawing for free let alone a company who would've spent countless hours figuring out the flows needed

what degree is this for? my boss never had the internet during this type of assessment lol

go to a wreckers, buy one and do an as-built, draw up on paper to scale, pretty easy

Chr1s
19-09-2010, 12:09 PM
lol how is cad referred to with autocad?

CAD is CAD....and there is coutless programs that can model in 3d and project to 2d and vise versa, pro engineer, autocad, solidworks, etc etc

To analyse the flow you need to setup a proper CFD environment and trust me, the coefficients and math strings you need is not as simple as you think.

crazy.ivan
19-09-2010, 03:23 PM
To analyse the flow you need to setup a proper CFD environment and trust me, the coefficients and math strings you need is not as simple as you think.

That's just what I was thinking... Pretty ambitious project.

markismaximus
19-09-2010, 04:51 PM
lol how is cad referred to with autocad?

CAD is CAD....and there is coutless programs that can model in 3d and project to 2d and vise versa, pro engineer, autocad, solidworks, etc etc



lol lol lol lol lol

in the engineering office I work in CAD typically refers to autocad. A model usually refers to something done in catia or alias, which is 3D.

VT3C
20-09-2010, 01:30 PM
i am fairly certain there's copyright / patent issues surrounding any technical diagrams of any Honda Motor Co products... good luck with that one :P

Chr1s
20-09-2010, 06:15 PM
lol lol lol lol lol

in the engineering office I work in CAD typically refers to autocad. A model usually refers to something done in catia or alias, which is 3D.

lol..."in the office". In the office alot of things get said, in my office we say this, in my friends office they say that.

Stop being a dingus lol, we both know for fact "CAD" doesn't mean autocad and is reffered to by everybody as that. Anyway, I think autocad is a piece of shit, most engineers I know agree. I don't know if you guys are civil related but for mechanical stuff its terrible! Maybe that's why I can't stand you saying its the standard ;).

markismaximus
20-09-2010, 06:22 PM
lol..."in the office". In the office alot of things get said, in my office we say this, in my friends office they say that.

Stop being a dingus lol, we both know for fact "CAD" doesn't mean autocad and is reffered to by everybody as that. Anyway, I think autocad is a piece of shit, most engineers I know agree. I don't know if you guys are civil related but for mechanical stuff its terrible! Maybe that's why I can't stand you saying its the standard ;).

you too are being a "dingus"

Mechanical and electrical engineering. I never said cad means autocad. I said in my place of employment its referred to as that.

You have your opinion, I have mine.

DC2-PWR
20-09-2010, 06:23 PM
i am fairly certain there's copyright / patent issues surrounding any technical diagrams of any Honda Motor Co products... good luck with that one :P

I hope not, I started drawing up my DC2 like a month ago

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs104.ash2/38536_455685525489_670380489_6731188_2537718_n.jpg

Thats just the front view I done a long time ago, I have done the side and rear view, all done to 1:1 scale.

However I did plan to draw up the engine aswell, but I estiamated that it will take me at least a months work. So like "hisoka" said, people won't give this out for free.

hisoka
23-09-2010, 02:57 PM
lol lol lol lol lol

in the engineering office I work in CAD typically refers to autocad. A model usually refers to something done in catia or alias, which is 3D.

lol you mean cad as in the abreviated term of auto cad. not everyone uses it like that as the other guy said.

most people just say cad , meaning anything drawn up on computer.

VT3C
29-09-2010, 03:23 PM
I hope not, I started drawing up my DC2 like a month ago

Thats just the front view I done a long time ago, I have done the side and rear view, all done to 1:1 scale.

However I did plan to draw up the engine aswell, but I estiamated that it will take me at least a months work. So like "hisoka" said, people won't give this out for free.

drawing them is fine - that's like creating "art" but if you then on-sell the drawings THAT could present a copyright issue.
I am talking in reference to the original thread querey seeking 'technical drawings'... THOSE are definately copyright and patented and would need to be licensed from Honda for any reproduction.

TheSaint
30-09-2010, 03:05 PM
autodesk autocad - the program allows modeling in 2d and 3d environment - but for the purpose of this excersice i would recommend using either autodesk Inventor or Solidworks

i think you should be able to ge a good running 3d model from a 2d set of prints with either of these programs ... but setting up a flow test would be alot more tricky

i can help out with the 3d models in Inventor if you need ... juss send me the 2d plans and ill build the models for you

DC2-PWR - for what you are doing - you would be better of ussing a program like Autodesk Alias

kccord
30-09-2010, 03:09 PM
CAD - Computer Aided Design. Just so I can join the band wagon and repeat.

wynode
30-09-2010, 03:19 PM
I hope not, I started drawing up my DC2 like a month ago

Thats just the front view I done a long time ago, I have done the side and rear view, all done to 1:1 scale.

However I did plan to draw up the engine aswell, but I estiamated that it will take me at least a months work. So like "hisoka" said, people won't give this out for free.

Looks great. Post a thread up when it's done.