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Killer.B

08-01-2005, 12:56 AM

I've searched as much as I can but haven't come up with any fruit on the topic of importing a CTR.

I'm fully aware of the rebuild loophole in vic. However I could not find any thread/topic that could conclusively confirm or deny that it was legally possible to import through this "rebuild" guise.

I don't purport toward doing anything illegal. Just hoping to see if anyone knows if there is an above-board means that would work?

Any thoughts or suggestions welcome.

I have done quite a bit of research and to date the last thing i will do is contact a vic roads authorised engineer. As it's these folks who do the inspections for the "rebuilds" that are done in vic.

Otherwise if im wasting my time I'd love to know! :)

Wasn't too sure where to lodge this thread so sorry if it coulda been better placed. =)

EK9

08-01-2005, 01:20 AM

honestly, i think finding a way to import urself is a waste of time. best bet is to buy one already here. or if ur super lucky, u mite know sumone from japan, who is willing to buy one, keep it for 12mths then send it over here for ya ;)

gelo

08-01-2005, 10:21 AM

i was thinking of buying one in hk and keep it for 1 yr then sending it over

BLKek

08-01-2005, 06:21 PM

Got any rellies in New Zealand?

spoondc2

08-01-2005, 07:15 PM

i was thinking of buying one in hk and keep it for 1 yr then sending it over
Just wondering, where are you going to park it in hk in the following 1 yr? you really gotta hide away from everybody and lock it up

Anyway i think it's just too long to get a car from overseas, wait for 1 yr then do personal import, it's just waste of time, except you had your own car in overseas already then it won't be any problems

r|Ce_bOi

08-01-2005, 08:22 PM

maybe this will help you get started...

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!cs_content.private_vehicle?vehicle_id=2107879&current_rec=2&total_rec=30&sort_type=&make_id=19&model_id=66&keyword=TYPE%20R&state_id=-1&search_distance=25

alot easier and gets all the fuss out of the way :thumbsup:

Perry

08-01-2005, 10:20 PM

thats true if dont live in HK and dont have a car park space thats problem but EK9's at HK are pretty cheap

spoondc2

08-01-2005, 10:28 PM

thats true if dont live in HK and dont have a car park space thats problem but EK9's at HK are pretty cheap
Right....... and i don't think there are any EK9 and DC2R which is still in good conditions in HK anymore, they sure have tons of good mods but the car never in good conditions, ppl just keep crashing and crashing

The term "total-loss" in hk and aus are day and night difference
In hk, total loss means.... TOTAL LOSS!!!!! NOTHING LEFT!!!!!!!! NOTHING!!!!

type one

09-01-2005, 04:34 PM

Perry

09-01-2005, 11:12 PM

Right....... and i don't think there are any EK9 and DC2R which is still in good conditions in HK anymore, they sure have tons of good mods but the car never in good conditions, ppl just keep crashing and crashing

The term "total-loss" in hk and aus are day and night difference
In hk, total loss means.... TOTAL LOSS!!!!! NOTHING LEFT!!!!!!!! NOTHING!!!!
there are quite alot of dc2r's in HK still but not as much as ek9's over there but depends which area u in i guess. yeah over there TOTAL does mean TOTAL LOSS i agree

Civic Type R

10-01-2005, 12:12 PM

There are some members online selling their genuine EK9's :)

EG4

10-01-2005, 12:16 PM

y get a CTR neway? not all that much better from the Aus Spec DC2R neway

so much hassle and seems to cost more

gelo

10-01-2005, 12:17 PM

but none in sydney....
=(

say i bought a ctr in melbourne
i cant bring it into nsw right?
but what if i lived in melbourne then moved 2 sydney?

EG4

10-01-2005, 12:30 PM

just keep it as a vic registered car haha

Civic Type R

10-01-2005, 12:50 PM

The EK9 is a sexy car !

EG4

10-01-2005, 03:53 PM

y is it sexy? hardly looks any different to an EK4

to the common person would look abt the same

Civic Type R

10-01-2005, 03:58 PM

inside and out about 10% of exactly the same materials are used in the two cars.
sure i see your point but the EK9 is far superior in every form to any other EK - including the VTiR

EK9

11-01-2005, 03:34 AM

y is it sexy? hardly looks any different to an EK4

to the common person would look abt the sameY IS IT SEXY??? cos it is :p guess ur not a fan??

yeah, doesn't look any different to an EK4, but it is... an ITR doesn't look any different to an Integra, but it is. ;)

and to a common person, sure wouldn't be anything but another Civic. So does an EVO, or an STI... but we're all car and Honda enthusiasts here so it is different.

Sp3rMz

11-01-2005, 03:46 AM

y is it sexy? hardly looks any different to an EK4

to the common person would look abt the same
Dude not having ago at you but I cant believe you just said that. I'm just guessing your not a true lover of these cars. Ek9 and EK4 are totally different cars. Its like comparing a Integra VtiR with Integra type R. In away both cars are the same but at same time totally different.

Is Green apple the same as a RED? Same thing but different.

Sorry if I confused you or anyone else.

EG4

11-01-2005, 09:50 AM

Not that i'm saying its a bad car, but from a common person's perspective when u look at it u'll only see a civic

Honda just doesn't do itself justice in not differentating (sp?) its higher level performance car to its standard day to day cars.

My point tho its just easier and a lot less hassle to get a DC2R then to find a CTR

z3lda

11-01-2005, 10:08 AM

Honda just doesn't do itself justice in not differentating (sp?) its higher level performance car to its standard day to day cars.

yea it does. ctr = 35k+ while the vtir hatch 13-15K.

but really...the 2 car does look the same on the outside and inside.
just the 5stud,recaros,red stiching, b16b, tighter sus, are some of the noticable differences it has compared to the normal one. can u justify paying 15k+more for all that?

could make a vtir hatch look better and faster with the extra money spent on buying a real ctr

Killer.B

11-01-2005, 10:27 AM

Doesn't say how much they end up selling for though. Any ideas? And btw does anyone know if you can still bring em in under a rebuild" in vic?

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EG4

11-01-2005, 10:31 AM

up for auction won't have a price

plus i believe to get these cars u would need a CAMS level 3 licence

z3lda

11-01-2005, 10:51 AM

starting bets at around 10k. not bad. but could go all the way to 20k+ for that car and that much km's on the clock

Killer.B

11-01-2005, 11:08 AM

up for auction won't have a price

plus i believe to get these cars u would need a CAMS level 3 licenceMy mistake. If you click the details links you can see what they went for after their auction date. example (http://pms.server-au.com/popup/?id=1972697)

u would need a CAMS level 3 licence as one way to bring it in yes, but I would have thought that you could import a car to be used as "parts" in the "rebuild" so importation would come under a different guise...

see the articles here>>

link 1 (http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrne/vrnav.nsf/childdocs/-739177595C55F0B5CA256EC900144E12-F0C7EF7AB4F48F40CA256EC900144E71-701D3F2436FD73F9CA256EC900144E74-FAD83EE5428B13B6CA256EC900144E83-0415CB01AAA48675CA256B400074A88B)

link 2 (http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrne/vrnav.nsf/childdocs/-739177595C55F0B5CA256EC900144E12-FC06B247A5425C42CA256EC900144EC0-3CD6F18F1655F9B4CA256EC900144EC6-1A320EC8D8F9678ECA256F2D0005D2DC)

EG4

11-01-2005, 12:19 PM

as i understand you can't bring the whole car undamaged in as a rebuild

and as a rebuild u would need the vin number off an existing civic

which means your going to have either transpose everything form the EK9 to your civ

which kinda doesn't really make your car an EK9 as the shell from what i know is more structuraly sound (correct me if i'm wrong)

otherwise u would be taking the car in and then stamping your current civ's VIN on this EK9 which makes it highly illegale as its more complied to ADR standards.

Civic Type R

11-01-2005, 02:00 PM

could make a vtir hatch look better and faster with the extra money spent on buying a real ctr:wave: Gday !

but id love to have a genuine EK9 anyday

SiR JDM

11-01-2005, 05:56 PM

which kinda doesn't really make your car an EK9 as the shell from what i know is more structuraly sound (correct me if i'm wrong)
The EK9 chassis is more ridged, but alot of people are willing to sacrifice that, and use the AUDM EK Chassis, which although inferior to the EK9 still of high quality, for a rebuild. In most cases, a rebuilt EK9 comprises EVERYTHING but the original Chassis, so technically yes, its not a true EK9, but "just about".

Killer.B

11-01-2005, 08:56 PM

otherwise u would be taking the car in and then stamping your current civ's VIN on this EK9 which makes it highly illegale as its more complied to ADR standards.Excuse my ignorance but I've often wondered, how would/could you be caught out stamping the vin on to the EK9? Is there additional id stamping / id's etc that a civ is identified by a) after a crash or b) a serious "canary" inspection by the cops?

Not that I would do anything illegal it makes me wonder how they would seriously know?

civ_sik

11-01-2005, 10:29 PM

if you ended up been able to import one i would import it from nz as they got for about 17k - 20k in good condition.

civ_sik

11-01-2005, 10:30 PM

oh yea and thats nz dollars

Killer.B

12-01-2005, 01:44 AM

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EK9

12-01-2005, 02:16 AM

Firstly Killer.B can u please stop posting all those auctions? As hot and beautiful those cars are, i dunno how this is helping ur thread... plz just link next time.

And if ppl here in Aus could buy and import from these auctions, i'm sure they'd be hundreds of ctr's running around. Since the reality is that there's only a handful of them, you should realise that it's impossible to import them here the same way as skylines, silvias, etc are.

yea it does. ctr = 35k+ while the vtir hatch 13-15K.

but really...the 2 car does look the same on the outside and inside.
just the 5stud,recaros,red stiching, b16b, tighter sus, are some of the noticable differences it has compared to the normal one. can u justify paying 15k+more for all that?

could make a vtir hatch look better and faster with the extra money spent on buying a real ctr35k for a ctr? there's only 1 ctr asking for that price, and he's probably spent that much on mods alone, that's y he's selling it for that price.

for a stock ctr, i would say here in Vic they'd go for 23-25k, that's if u can find any. that's 10k ontop of an ek4, and no way can u get the mods u listed above for that price.

and there's heaps more differences to the ctr then u would think... i certainly can justify paying the difference for one, and i did ;)

Sp3rMz

12-01-2005, 02:28 AM

yea it does. ctr = 35k+ while the vtir hatch 13-15K.

but really...the 2 car does look the same on the outside and inside.
just the 5stud,recaros,red stiching, b16b, tighter sus, are some of the noticable differences it has compared to the normal one. can u justify paying 15k+more for all that?

could make a vtir hatch look better and faster with the extra money spent on buying a real ctrThats the same for vtir and type R. Its coz people want the geniune deal. Also for other its a wank factor. I could justify payin extra 10 grand for ctr then a vtir. Hence i paid extra 10k for type R instead of vtir.

Killer.B

12-01-2005, 03:58 AM

EK9

12-01-2005, 04:03 AM

^^ well, the so called loophole isn't there anymore... i think. the laws were changed here in Vic a while back, so it's supposed to be impossible now. but i'm not sure, sumone here should know.

my car? well it was here already... all i had to do was buy it off another guy ;) if u got any questions, just pm me.

EG4

12-01-2005, 08:52 AM

only prob with buying a ctr in vic or aus 9 out of 10 of them have already had been damaged and were bought in as a repairable write off.

To actually find sumone who has a personal import ctr and willing to sell is damn hard to find.

not exactly sure abt stamping again, but i believe your VIN plate is attached to the chassis and they just replace the old vin plate with the new one. Then u go and register at vic road.

But usually jap spec cars just aren't as safe on aus roads, as they lack the safett requirements and we have 2 many 4wd soccer driving mums on the rooms to feel safe.

Still a great car, i would to own one but to go thru the hassles and checking and paying that extra premium its just better off to go with a DC2R

Civic Type R

12-01-2005, 11:57 AM

for a stock ctr, i would say here in Vic they'd go for 23-25k, that's if u can find any. that's 10k ontop of an ek4, and no way can u get the mods u listed above for that price.

and there's heaps more differences to the ctr then u would think... ;)
Just for the record.

Here is the list of items i got to do my VTiR to EK9 conversion.
Interior EK9 refit:
- Recaros $1300
- Genuine EK9 everything else $1730
- - cluster CF bezel
- - momo SRS steering wheel
- - CF center console
- - titanium knob
- - red stitch boot
- - red carpet
- - red floormats
- - red door trims
- - silver e-brake lever
- - rear seats
- - red badges
- - decals

Exhaust I/H/E $1250
JDM ITR gearbox w/install/ rebuild $2950
JDM ITR engine + parts w/install $5900
Freight $500

TOTAL: $13630

i certainly can justify paying the difference for one, and i did ;)And so can i :thumbsup:

EG4

12-01-2005, 02:43 PM

Woah that's alotta $$

the shell the next thing on the list =)

EK9

12-01-2005, 07:31 PM

damn, all those goodies for only $1730? sounds like u got a bargain Adam :D