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WATAJK
03-10-2010, 10:50 AM
Was just on carsalea and saw this...
Genuine AP2???\

I thought you couldn't get a AP2 in australia unless it was a personal import?? :S

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/bncis/details.aspx?Cr=7&R=7905030&keywords=&trecs=92&__sid=12A2A73A5E54&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__Qpb=true&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&seot=1&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965322% 204294964924&silo=1011
tuanEH?
03-10-2010, 10:56 AM
i don't think that's an AP2, pretty sure it's just a facelift version of an AP1... if you look carefully at the vin chassis, it says JHMAP1***
WATAJK
03-10-2010, 10:57 AM
Oo nice thank you :) Silly me lol.
TanitY
03-10-2010, 11:03 AM
im confused, i thought 2004+ were AP2 and in australia these new models are essentially ap2 however still contain the same f20c motor instead of the f22c????
can someone correct me please
Tai
03-10-2010, 11:11 AM
You are correct Tanity.

I dont know what WATAJK is on about .
WATAJK
03-10-2010, 11:15 AM
You are correct Tanity.

I dont know what WATAJK is on about .

Ummm i always thought you could only buy AP1 S2000 Pre-Facelift S2000's in Australia, i didn't know they came to Australia with the facelift... That's all... My mistake
euromandeluxe
03-10-2010, 11:19 AM
AP2 is the chassis designation for cars with the F22. every car is Australia is an AP1 regardless of year. 04+ AP1s have all the facelifted features of the AP2, but without the F22
WATAJK
03-10-2010, 11:22 AM
AP2 is the chassis designation for cars with the F22. every car is Australia is an AP1 regardless of year. 04+ AP1s have all the facelifted features of the AP2, but without the F22

Thank you for clearing that up :) Cheers dude
Tai
03-10-2010, 11:23 AM
I thought only the americans get the F22
ludecrs
03-10-2010, 11:27 AM
^ Correct.
Everywhere in the world is an AP1 from 99-09, except America which is an AP2 with the F22C from 2004-2009.
Everywhere in the world also got the upgrade facelift in 2004-2009, however its still classified as an AP1.
tuanEH?
03-10-2010, 11:28 AM
^^ This man knows what he's talking about
dc2r-0636
03-10-2010, 12:24 PM
why is it $87,000 ? they were like $72ish new. maybe coz its like the last one ?
euromandeluxe
03-10-2010, 12:40 PM
^ Correct.
Everywhere in the world is an AP1 from 99-09, except America which is an AP2 with the F22C from 2004-2009.


and japan from 06+!
9large
03-10-2010, 03:07 PM
All models pre-2004 are AP1. All models from 2004-2009 are AP2. In addition to the cosmetic updates, there were several mechanical and electronic updates, and of course the F22 was introduced in the States. Despite missing arguably the most significant part of the upgrade in Australia - the 2.2L engine - all 2004+ AUDM S2000s are classified as AP2s by Honda, as "AP1" or "AP2" is the designated chassis code and is not a reference to the engine.
KaZe86
03-10-2010, 05:48 PM
does anyone notice that have the pics are different the steering wheel is on the right side then on the other pics its on the left side...
ludecrs
03-10-2010, 06:26 PM
Why would you buy it when you can have an 08 model with 3000 for 59K advertised 4 cars down...
ludecrs
03-10-2010, 06:30 PM
and japan from 06+!

Correct. Forgot about that.
ludecrs
03-10-2010, 06:31 PM
All models pre-2004 are AP1. All models from 2004-2009 are AP2. In addition to the cosmetic updates, there were several mechanical and electronic updates, and of course the F22 was introduced in the States. Despite missing arguably the most significant part of the upgrade in Australia - the 2.2L engine - all 2004+ AUDM S2000s are classified as AP2s by Honda, as "AP1" or "AP2" is the designated chassis code and is not a reference to the engine.

They are however an AP1, as any AUDM S2000 VIN / chassis number will point out.
They are just referred to as AP2's for simplicity sake.
drsilliez
03-10-2010, 08:00 PM
why is it $87,000 ? they were like $72ish new. maybe coz its like the last one ?

who cares about ap1 or ap2, i was thinking like this man...

87k?!?!?!?!? wtf. might as well buy a 370z or bmw 135i

and yes werent they like 70-72k new?
dc2r-0636
03-10-2010, 08:06 PM
does anyone notice that have the pics are different the steering wheel is on the right side then on the other pics its on the left side...

lol i noticed that too haha
9large
03-10-2010, 11:01 PM
They are however an AP1, as any AUDM S2000 VIN / chassis number will point out.
They are just referred to as AP2's for simplicity sake.

It's a confusing setup but they're referred to as an AP2 because that's what Honda refers to them as, despite the VIN codes.
Euro08Jaz
03-10-2010, 11:44 PM
The price would have been worth it when they first started coming out but the cars getting a little dated in terms of the competition.
euromandeluxe
04-10-2010, 07:04 AM
It's a confusing setup but they're referred to as an AP2 because that's what Honda refers to them as, despite the VIN codes.

that is strange. I was going by what's in the VIN.
fair enough!
euromandeluxe
04-10-2010, 07:06 AM
who cares about ap1 or ap2, i was thinking like this man...

87k?!?!?!?!? wtf. might as well buy a 370z or bmw 135i

and yes werent they like 70-72k new?

yeah, but someone who's a crazy enough Honda enthusiast/collector might pay that much for an untouched example. if I was rolling in money I'd buy it in a flash :D
Nismo3oi
04-10-2010, 07:56 AM
^ Correct.
Everywhere in the world is an AP1 from 99-09, except America which is an AP2 with the F22C from 2004-2009.
Everywhere in the world also got the upgrade facelift in 2004-2009, however its still classified as an AP1.

Everywhere except Japan and America, JDM Facelift models came in the F20C and the F22C