Removing Stock Dc2 Wing

[Vvvtec]

I want to take off my stock wing on my VTi-R.

How do I get access to the wire running from the boot up into the wing itself? I'm guessing I have to remove the interior plasitics from the inside of the hatch, but has anyone done it and can give me a few pointers?

Easy rep here for clear, helpful answers :)

Thanks!

[pablos8]

I've never done it on a teggie plus mine has a DC2R wing but I'm assuming you take off the boot plastic which you would have to look upwards for when you open up the boot..

Most trims in hondas are just held on by clips, just don't pull TOO hard because you don't want to break a clip and make the already bad dc2 boot rattle worse.

Unscrew any screws u find holding the trim and and should be easy street from there, just remember there should be holes from the wing so make sure to fill them unless you want boot leak :(

[m3ntAL_l2]

^^^ as said above u need to pull on the interior panel. the clips will come undone. and then u need to unclick the break light wire/plug before removing the wing.

there is no screws on the upper boot panel

few threads might help u

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?127651-DC2-Third-Brake-Light-Install

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?127534-Help-How-to-remove-the-boot-plastic-cover

[Vvvtec]

Thanks you two, exactly what I was looking for!

[davidvtec]

oh and as for the holes, you can use rubber grommets to cover them up :) you can buy em from supercheap auto

[Vvvtec]

Ok guys, so I've finally gotten some spare time to fiddle around with this..

I've unclipped the interior plastics on the hatch, and I've found the wires running up into the wing. My question is, can I just disconnect them, or have I got to hook up the window brake light immediately? Is it safe to drive the car with this cable disconnected from either of the two brake lights?

[pablos8]

Man I'd recommend to do it all in one go aye.. like take off the wing and reconnect everything to the 3rd brake light so you don't have to worry about it later on.. In Sydney, not sure of other states but I've heard its a defect/illegal to run a car without a 3rd brake light.. My mates been fined for it by a cop.. but I've never been pulled up on it though

[Vvvtec]

Thanks bro.

Yeah after a bit of fiddling around, it's all connected up, and I'm now running wingless! Looks so much better. Thanks man :)

[pablos8]

No worries! enjoy til type R wing? :D

[Vvvtec]

Haha it's quiet a possibility =P

Focus is now on Coils and wheels :D

[pablos8]

coils! :D

Sigh so sad my coils are gone.. could have used it in the new car T_T

[Vvvtec]

Yeah man, went for a run through the hills the other day, and I really want to get the car sitting a lot flatter through the corners. Can't wait!

What coils did you have?

[pablos8]

Buddyclub n+ racing spec :) good coils for street use and spirited driving

[Vvvtec]

I'll keep an eye for them. I want some that are relatively 'comfortable' for daily driving.

Hopefully I can pick up some second hand ones in good nick for a good price haha.

[pablos8]

I just sold mine for 1k lol 1 month old <2000kms travelled haha

[Indie]

Hey guys.

I've recently purchased a GSi, and I'm considering removing the stock wing. (Wing? Spoiler? I don't even know what it qualifies as...)

What are your thoughts on this? Would a nice clean look be better, or does the rear end look too plain without some sort of spoiler?

What's involved in plugging and painting the holes? I have some touch-up work that needs to be done on the front bumper, so I'd probably get this done at the same time.

Cheers.

[Vvvtec]

Definitely remove it, gives the car a much cleaner look. The stock wing that came on our cars is quiet honestly pretty lame.

As for the holes, you have two options:
1) Go down to Autobarn/Supercheap and get some rubber grommets to plug the holes. This actually looks surprisingly neat, and will be what I'm doing on my DC2.
2) Or you could eliminate the holes altogether by tacking a small metal plate to the underside of the holes, and the bogging up the holes. Then obviously while your in the paint/panel shop you will need to get your boot resprayed. Alot more work, but ultimately looks better.

I recommend getting grommets for your car, only costs a few dollars compared to hundreds of dollars. Hope that helps!

[Indie]

Thanks for the help, mate. I don't suppose you've got a picture of a boot with grommets in it?

With those, I can always throw the wing (or a new wing) back on if I like, so it might be a better option, at least to see whether I prefer it without after a few weeks.

[newpaddy3]

Here is Vvvtec's boot.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1143.snc4/148504_500313100010_628000010_7725650_7717732_n.jp g

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs897.snc4/73011_501176580010_628000010_7741015_4950179_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs463.ash2/73680_501177245010_628000010_7741020_725681_n.jpg

[Indie]

Awesome, thanks mate! I'm definitely going to de-wing it. Asked the girlfriend what she thought, and she said it'd look better without it. She knows nothing about cars, but could still tell that the stock wing looked pointless.

I've heard of people using primer and touch-up paint on the grommets to match the body colour, just so they blend in a little more. Mine's silver too. What do you guys think? Paint them or leave them black?

Also, I've heard of people removing the rear wiper, too. Would anyone recommend/advise against it?

[Vvvtec]

Yup, painting the grommets will hide them abit more, that's what I'm going to do :)

As for the wiper delete, that's more personal choice I guess. IMO the rear wiper is practical and I find I always use it in the rain. At the same time, it does stick out like a sore thumb when the wing is gone, and would really finish the ear end of our cars off nicely.

Aesthetics vs practicality... What's more important to you :P

[Indie]

Nice. I think the painted grommets will end up looking alright.

Hm, well, my old Pulsar didn't even have a rear wiper, but the rear window was much more upright on that. Actually, I just looked at a picture of it, and it turns out it did have one, I just never used it! The hatch is more horizontal on the Teg, though, so I'm not sure how annoying it would be not having a wiper. It would just look so clean without the wing and wiper... I'll have to have a think, haha.

It's handy having somebody with the same car doing the same things at the same time!

[CaptainHeff]

vvvtec - did you keep the wing? i just got a gsi and i think it looks a bit naked without something on the back end...

[Vvvtec]

Nice. I think the painted grommets will end up looking alright.

Hm, well, my old Pulsar didn't even have a rear wiper, but the rear window was much more upright on that. Actually, I just looked at a picture of it, and it turns out it did have one, I just never used it! The hatch is more horizontal on the Teg, though, so I'm not sure how annoying it would be not having a wiper. It would just look so clean without the wing and wiper... I'll have to have a think, haha.

It's handy having somebody with the same car doing the same things at the same time!

The last couple days I've been looking at my wiper... I think it's not staying on my car for very much longer lol.

[Vvvtec]

vvvtec - did you keep the wing? i just got a gsi and i think it looks a bit naked without something on the back end...

Yeah man, I did keep it. I'd offer it to you, but I might keep it just incase.

I'm sure you can find one on here though, just think of all the guys who have taken theirs off aswell haha

[newpaddy3]

Yeah man, I did keep it. I'd offer it to you, but I might keep it just incase.

I'm sure you can find one on here though, just think of all the guys who have taken theirs off aswell haha

What are you concerned about that makes you think you may need to keep it?

[Vvvtec]

I WANT to keep it. One day I might sell up, good to have all the stock parts.

[CaptainHeff]

bugger D: oh well, back to the hunt

[Vvvtec]

I'm sure you'll find one dude! Should be plenty floating around.

[CaptainHeff]

yeah they're all yellow or red. never white haha

[Vvvtec]

Haha I see. Mines Metallic silver. Newpaddy has a white one he might let go of...

[newpaddy3]

Yeah I have a white one. What state are you in?

[CaptainHeff]

if your location is accurate, and QLD, i'm like 2 minutes down the road from you in carindale

[newpaddy3]

Yeah it is man. When I remove it I'll let you know, it's still currently on my car lol :P

[CaptainHeff]

sounds good! lookin forward to it.

[Vvvtec]

Haha holy shit! Talk about a small world :P

[Indie]

Wow, nice!

[CaptainHeff]

you're not that far out yourself vvv. lol brisbane meet?

[Indie]

Oh, by the way, what size grommets do I need to get for the holes?

[Indie]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1189.snc4/154136_1731097161142_1349881352_1854098_7545390_n. jpg

BOOM, THERE IT IS!

Wiper and wing in one fell swoop. Looks so much nicer. Now, can anybody please tell me exactly what I need to get to plug the holes? Cheers!

[Vvvtec]

Nice work man!!

How did you go about removing the wiper?

Oh and for the plugs, you need 1x 1/4" and 4x 3/8". They come in packs of 4 at Supercheap, think they were $2.30 a pack or something.

[Indie]

It was so, so easy. Definitely do it, mate. Just plucked off the plastic boot lining, starting from the corner of the hatch. I didn't even have to take the whole thing off, or take the sides off either. Just need to get a screwdriver wedged in there, and pull hard on it, trusting that the clips won't snap. They won't. Then I unscrewed the three large, obvious bolts on the motor, and unclipped the wires bypulling on them very, very hard, leaving it only attached by the wiper part itself. Then comes the trickier part. You need to wedge a screwdriver in between the plastic ring and the plastic cap that are where the wiper arm connects to the motor, and pry it loose. Eventually the little sucker will flick off, leaving you to unscrew a couple of obvious things and firmly yank the blade off. Then I just smooshed the rubber stopper with a screwdriver until it popped through the glass, and I was left with a neat hole, and a completely intact wiper, ready to be re-installed if necessary. Just go out and do it when you have half an hour, it's really easy. Looks ****ing ace, too! Just don't be afraid that anything'll break; it's all really sturdy.

Thanks for letting me know about the grommets, too; I'll pick some up this week. Any idea how to get the third brake light hooked up and working? I can't find any wires for it anywhere, so I'm now running illegal. I figure I won't actually get picked up for it any time soon, so I can always just get them to do it at my next service, which is soon.

I'm wondering how much a respray will cost... I'm considering just leaving the grommets in, and only bother bogging them down the track when I get a full spray.